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Holocaust anyone?
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>>1167007
If Holocaust happened, then how come we didn't burn all Germans after WW2?

Checkmate, atheists.
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>>1167007
Anyone who knowsif thisone is true or not?
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>>1167007
>camps inspected by us

What does this mean?

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Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that he was fucking based and that most of his ideas are genius?

Why do people hate him so much?
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Look at that ugly face
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>>1166983
His ideas tend to not do well for the reputation of a very popular religion. That seems to be where the whiniest posters come from.
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>>1166983
>Why do people hate him so much?
because most people are the last man
his arguments must be hated by the slaves whose subjugation he points out
anything other would necesserally contradict the nature of the ubermench

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Thoughts?
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What did he meme by this?
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Pure filosofia
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Intentionally obscure to mask his lack of real insight.

Plus his aesthetics are shit, vaporwave is garbage for stupid teenagers.

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What's the /his/ opinion on MASH? Book, Movie, and Show opinions
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>>1166916
>Book
Didn't read it

>Movie
Hilarious. I give it an 8/10.

>Show
Too pinko for my tastes, but it has its moments. Solid 6/10.
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>>1166916
>Book
Haven't read it.

>Movie
Great.

>Show
Exactly pinko enough for me, 8/10.
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>>1166916

TV show was pinko because it was an allegory for the ongoing War in Vietnam.

I grew up overseas in the Middle East and it was always on after school. RIP Col. Blake.

What do you think of the idea of religion as a memetic virus? Of course the idea is not new, but usually the analogy is used in a critical way, as an attack on religion.

What if we view modern major world religions as a huge memetic symbiotic viruses, that largely evolved to INCREASE the fitness and competitiveness of societies (not necessary individuals) they infected - because that allows these societies to more effectively spread the virus further (prozelityze).

We can view all the holy books and writings that stood the test of time as additional libraries and modules of a virus that serve as sort of patches hijacking basic human "firmware" that we evolved as prehistoric hunter-gatherers and using it for new purpose. A simple example - monotheistic anti-idolatry "module" that serve tu supress our innate spirituality (pantheism/ancestor worship) and rechannel it in such a way as to allow us to organise in much larger and complex society (that can propagate the virus that much more effectively).
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>>1166863
You could say this is true of literally any ideology. You could even say that the idea of ideology as a virus is itself a new virus.
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>>1166928

>You could say this is true of literally any ideology

Yes, but to effectively infect our minds an ideology must have a way to profondly affect us on an emotional level. Religions mostly play on out greatest fear - fear of death and our greatest hope - having an afterlife without suffering. Often they introduce an additional idea - some sort of hell/afterlife retribution, this serves as an additional motivator to submit, introducing the fear that even death might not be an escape from suffering if we don't do as we are told.

You can see these ideas in one form or another in all the major religions. Religions without the concept of afterlife are simply not competitive judging from their influence and the number of adherents.
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>>1166928
Came in here to post this.

I like you anon.

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Why do the Chinese revere Mao instead of Deng Xiaoping?
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Because they're cucked by Communism
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>>1166847
It's better to have an inspirational figurehead than a boring but effective manlet as your ultimate hero when controlling a billion people

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Tell me if I've got this down. I haven't read Lacan, but from arguments on 4chan and readings of several of Zizek's books, I've gotten this out of him.
1. Psychoanalysis
Lacan refers to his theories as being psychoanalytical, and he ran a psychoanalytic practice. He saw his work as a rejection of Freud that was meant to patch up the holes in Freud's theories. Whether or not he succeeded, and whether or not the method he used was valid, is debatable, but beside the point of this post--when Lacanians refer to "psychoanalysis," they mean either the entire history of the discourse stretching back to Freud, or the specifically Lacanian way of performing this practice. The nature of the referent depends on the context.
2. Fantasy
Our fantasies are constituent to our perception of the world. Lacanian psychoanalysis encourages us to embrace our fantasies, to the extent that this can help us attain the jouissance necessary for human flourishing or, at the very least, psychological health. (Again, whether or not this works is beside the point, I'm just trying to understand Lacan's claims.) The Fantastic plays a significant role in the process whereby man is subjugated by power, interpolated into an ideology or religion, and relates to his fellow humans and himself psychologically. The human need to embrace the Fantastic is a key part of Lacanian psychoanalysis, which we might call post-rational for its rejection of Freud's antipathy toward religion and the primitive. The Fantastic lies beyond the order of symbolism; compare it to the superego, in terms of the way it works as a conditioner of the ego.
(contd)
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3. The Real
The Real is the sum of the basic, visceral sensations that give rise to the sense of self, the things that cannot be symbolized or properly integrated into the Fantastic order, which exists in part to cope with what goes on on the level of the Real.
4. The Symbolic
All of this is mediated by the symbolic order, which is in fact, as language conceived in a very broad sense, the essence of consciousness. Essentially, we can get lost in the symbolic and lose touch with the relationship between the Real and the Fantastic. The point of Lacanian psychoanalysis, like Platonic contemplation, Christian prayer, Zen meditation or the Confucian rectification of names, is to bring ourselves, as agents operating primarily on the level of the symbolic within the confines of the social and physical structures that give rise to the Fantastic and the Real, in touch with these visceral kernels of Being which defy symbolization and which therefore defy us, as symbolic and symbolizing, signified and symbolizing beings.
So is this Lacan? Or is this just some post-Hegelian bullshit that I just concocted? Also I'm American and don't read French, just FYI.
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>>1166795
Why do you have to try to define psychoanalysis? When Lacanians refer to "psychoanalysis," they refer to psychoanalysis, kind of like how dermatologists refer to dermatology when they say dermatology.
Your understanding of Lacan is pretty awful and clearly and severely constrained by your not having read Freud, Lacan, or any psychoanalysis. It sounds like you are literally trying to reconstruct what Lacan might read written based on the 4 words you are trying to explicate. I guess that pretty much describes Zizek's "scholarship."
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>>1166820
I literally say that that's what I'm trying to do. Could you maybe correct me, instead of just being confrontational? I'm trying to be corrected.

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Turk here
Educate me on the Empire of my ancestors
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>>1166602
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>>1166602
First thing you must know that you subjugated a lot of people, whose kids are now bitter shit posters in 4chins, Case in point in first post.
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>>1166790
Grand grand grand children if anything. And most of us don't really like turks in the first place so yeah

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Can someone go into broader detail as to why Clinton was able to have arguably the greatest economy of any president ever? I usually hear people say "tech-bubble", but what other factors play into it? I know he decreased welfare, raised taxes on the wealthy, and ended up with a surplus on the deficit by the time he left office.
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>>1166560
The New Economy.

>he term applied to the digital economy, and particularly to the use of the internet; as with the phrases "New Politics" and "New Media," it points at the enormous potential of the world of digital communications to change how people live and participate in society. The "New Economy" rose in response to the flow of technology, much of it developed by government, and to an economic program which history will call "Rubinomics." What was Rubinomics, and what contribution did it make to the period of prosperity in the 1990s? And why did it end with a bubble and a radical change in the direction of American politics?
The key to understanding what the Clinton administration did is to remember what the vicious cycle consists of: America must import energy, this causes a trade deficit. The trade deficit, in turn, means that the US must sell assets abroad, this creates an investment deficit. To bring investment in means that one must also cut taxes on the wealthy, so that companies remain under the control of Americans, rather than being bought up by foreigners, particularly those from nations that do not have internal economies. This creates a budget deficit.
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>>1166604
The investment deficit and budget deficit together create conditions in which real wages do not increase as quickly and there is less growth in the kind of upwardly mobile employment that people need. This situation also creates incentives for government to tax consumption, both because this reduces the trade deficit, and because the wealthy cannot be taxed. This creates a wages deficit. The wages deficit, in turn, gives people an incentive to borrow more, particularly against their homes. This creates a wealth deficit, with increasing inequality in assets. The solution to the wealth deficit is for people to use gasoline to shop around for better bargains, and to buy homes further from where they work, and in areas that do not have to pay the carrying costs of large metropolitan areas. This means they burn more energy, and this loops back around to the beginning of the cycle. The whole cycle then is:
Energy deficit creates trade deficit.
Trade deficit creates investment deficit.
Investment deficit creates budget deficit.
Investment deficit and budget deficit creates wages and wealth deficit.
Wages and wealth deficits create pressure to use energy to generate housing wealth, which starts the cycle over again.
Each stage pushes the next along, because at each stage there is a group of people that can benefit by pushing the problem to the next group of people.
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>>1166606
Democratic politics since 1978 has consisted of a series of attempts to find a way to break this cycle. Carter tried direct conservation, to end the energy deficit. Mondale wanted to raise taxes and investment in the US, to break the wages and wealth deficit. By the time Clinton was elected, however, there was a broad consensus that there could not be a direct attack on these problems. Clinton himself tried to attack the problem directly by proposing an energy tax, but this met with tremendous resistance and was dropped. While he was able, because of the high deficits created both by the borrowing Reaganomics had engaged in, and by the collapse of the Savings and Loan System, which was an unintended consequence of lowering energy prices, he did not have the political capital to go farther along this line than he did.
Instead, the solution was to find a different kind of paper to sell abroad for energy: instead of running a chronic budget deficit and selling bonds, Robert Rubin shifted borrowing to short-term borrowing at lower interest rates, easing the budget crunch. This created more money for investment, and the ability of the Federal Reserve to keep interest rates lower than it otherwise would have. And into this environment, with an America looking for a new engine of growth, came the internet, and "The New Economy."

I was always fascinated with the Ancient Egyptian civilization. The monumental architecture, the mysterious religion, the society, the mummies, the hieroglyphs, all the iconography. All the gold and black diorite and lapis lazuli.

But why does the Ancient Egypt seem so alien? Is it because it's not something we Europeans have around so we're not familiar with it? It's far away in an exotic land buried by sands in shade of palm trees.
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Akenaton did nothing wrong
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>>1166289
No. Its alienness is due to ignorance, and that ignorance is mostly due to deliberate tergiversation of history, and chronology, and occlusion of truth.

Alienness has nothing to do with geographical distance; that would be absurd; if that were so, anything beyond your immediate purview would feel alien to you. Use your fucking mind.
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>>1166289
>Is it because it's not something we Europeans have around so we're not familiar with it? It's far away in an exotic land buried by sands in shade of palm trees.

Nigger go to a museum, even a backwater shithole town with no proper sewerage system has at least one sarcophagus and legendary pharaoh. There's probably more ancient obelisks in Europe and America then there are in Egypt at this point.

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Isn't it funn how the nuclear weapon is both the greatest development for peace AND war?

Nothing else has made the idea of war more terrible nor peace more desirable.
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We're really skating on thin ice though. I mean, we already came pretty close to disaster during the cuban missile crisis.
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>>1166281
Daily reminder that deterrence doesn't work, and the only reason we're still alive is due to human nature
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Eventually though making nuclear weapons will become too easy and some cultists/nutjobs decide to blow up Earth. "Balance of terror" works only if all parties with nuclear weapons care about self-preservation.

But then again.... It might be really peaceful after that.

So that school of life youtube channel added a Voltaire video last weekend.

What does /his/ think of it?
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>>1166087

forgot link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAzKGkTIKpg
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>>1166091
>>1166087

I find the lack of >H>R>E and other such memes in the comments disturbing.

Lets fix that.
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>>1166087
Racist as fuck

>It is a serious question among them whether the Africans are descended from monkeys or whether the monkeys come from them. Our wise men have said that man was created in the image of God. Now here is a lovely image of the Divine Maker: a flat and black nose with little or hardly any intelligence. A time will doubtless come when these animals will know how to cultivate the land well, beautify their houses and gardens, and know the paths of the stars: one needs time for everything.

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Would socrates smoke weed?
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>>1165799
I doubt it. Even back then, it would be intuitive that smoke inhalation would have some form of negative impact on the body, and socrates was pretty in tune with fitness requirements. So, I'd say no.
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No, it clouds and dulls the mind.
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>>1165804
>>1165805
>Contrarian jackass philosopher who claimed he could drink for days without getting drunk
>Wouldn't smoke weed

I'd wager he would

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he was autistic right? like legit autism
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Was Wittgenstein gay? He seems like one.
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>>1165683
No but Foucault was, shame two of the most handsome philosophers ever were both degenerates.
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he fucking claimed to slove fucking philosophy and spended some years of his life designing fucking door handles. Totally confirmed.

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I'm interested in reading the primary sources for Roman antiquity. Can anybody give me a guide to who/how/order to read the primaries? Also, any good primary source recommendations regardless of time period are welcome. Share interesting anecdotes and quotes.
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Livy and Tacitus are primary for the Empire.

People like the Plinies, Appian, Juvenal and Plutarch are also from roughly that time.

If you're looking for primaries from the republic, try Cicero and Polybius, but there's not much in that way, I don't think.

Anything earlier than that is a laughable notion, because all the earlier histories were destroyed
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>>1165617

Livy?

He gives more into narrative over fact.

But Polybius is a great choice.
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>>1165623
The assumption goes that you have to assume that Livy romanticized information collected from existing Histories that he had access too, like one of those modern books that try to give flavor to History.

That said, anything contemporary to him is lost, so he isn't really a primary.

He was a Roman, but he wrote about history ancient to him.

I actually don't know why I said him, but whatever

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