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Just fucking listen
https://soundcloud.com/user-885115190/uzi
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>>2135854
This is fucking shit, who fucking listens to this fucking trash?
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Cuntfuck
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>>2135861
Cuntfuck

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I don't come to /his/ at all, so I'm not sure if this board is the place for this thread, but I thought I'd ask:

Should I trust the information in history books that are very old? I've often gotten books that are printed in the 1950s from used book stores, and in libraries I will occasionally find books from the early 20th century or even older - I have one book that seems to have been printed in 1897, since that is its only copyright date.

Is the information in those books still valuable, or are the perceptions and biases from these old books make them less useful, or cause them to skew or skip over historical information not considered factual or relevant then?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-reference

http://www.lib.vt.edu/help/research/primary-secondary-tertiary.html
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>>2135674
A lot of it is, but often they come to conclusions we know now are false. So you have to be critical of there claims.
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>>2135678
But should you have to cross reference every source you ever check?

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What the fuck was his problem?
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>>2135613
His grip.
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fucking terrs
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>>2135613
Aleppo

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>Everyone just believes this guy holds power
>Everyone just acts as though individuals possess some inherent right to hold a fabricated creation such as an office or position in a fabricated idea that is a "state"
>Everyone participates in this nonsense
>Literally could be ended and brought to destruction by simply killing the guy if you stand next to him
>WWI literally began because a guy who was believed to hold "power" was assassinated by a commoner
>This somehow justifies the inevitable death of millions

When did you realise how insane "power" and "status" are and that the only way to fix such an absurdity is to create a society in which these things don't exist?
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>>2135363
What's it like being 16?
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>>2135363
But that criticism can be made against every form of government.

Time to grow up and obey the king, anon.
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>>2135378
What's it like being so retarded you waste precious time of your existence worshipping people you have never met?

Really makes ya think

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>Extraterrestrials interacted with humans at some point in history

y/n?
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m, i d k
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>>2135091
yes
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>>2135114
no

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Is he the most unfairly maligned figure in human history?
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> unfairly
how so?
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>>2134816
>write mean things about Jews
>this is somehow a war crime
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I've read the Heydecker book but I can't remember why he was hanged other than for being an incredibly zealous, annoying piece of shit. I tried looking for it but I gave up once I found the first article comparing him to Trump.

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Why did javelins eventually fall out of fashion?

Surely it couldn't have hurt to have your infantry hurl a few before the melee started.
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>>2134787
Costs

It costs money to make the javalins
It takes money to train people to use then
It then takes money to transport them

If the ability of the weapon does not exceed its cost the it isnt viable as a weapon. Therefore javalins fell out of favor and the bow and crossbow supplanted it.

Javalins eventually stopped being able to break shields and formations due to new advances in armor and military organization
Once it lost its ability to break infantry formations it no longer mattered compared to the cheaper alternatives. Arrows
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Where do you mean? The Irish for example were still using javelins well into the 17th century
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The Jarid was widespread in Eastern Europe and Orient.

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Seriously, why people decided to domesticate this filthy animal? Why in the first place you would want these things anywehre closer to you? To catch mices?
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I read somewhere that cats may have actually domesticated us.
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Pest control is no joke. Rats were a big concern.
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>have mices in your house
>get a bigger mouse who brings flea and fur to the air

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why did the stoics and socrates advocate abortion and the killing of deformed babies? And the killing of babies from inferior parents?

I'm confused.
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>>2134430
Muh duty
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>>2134430

whats confusing you about it anon?
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>>2134436
Well Socrates said to commit no injustice to no one. And then advocates in the republic to leave deformed babies to die from exposure.

The stoics advocated abortions too because it was rational. The best for the Roman state. Some emperors outlawed it but not for reasons that concerned the unborn baby. But that it deprived the father of an heir.

I don't care that a lot of women did it for selfish reasons, that women often killed their babies with or without their husbands approval.

I care that moral thinkers thought it was right to abort deformed babies. While I agree that it is rational, I think nature should run it's course. I mean if suffering was inevitable in life then how come when it comes to deformed babies/fetuses that it is just to "put it out of it's misery"

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What part or scene from the Bible is your favorite?

I like the part where Josh flips the money exchange tables outside the temple. I think a lot of modern (Protestant) Christians could stand to think long and hard about this passage, and maybe they wouldn't have created the materialistic shithole known as America.
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>>2134411
I like the part where God says it is a sin for men to lay with other men. I think a lot of modern (Catholic) Christians could stand to think long and hard about this passage, and maybe they wouldn't have chosen the heretic of a Pope known as Francis.
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I like the part where God says "ayy yall got any more that forbidden fruit kush shit dank af yo lmao". I think a lot of modern Sarah Palin's could stand to think long and hard (lol) about this passage, and mayne they wouldn't have chosen the baboon of a President known as Trump.
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>>2134422
I can fuck other dudes without laying with them.

Checkm8, proddies.

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What's the most astonishing example of a man coming from the bottom of society to the head of state
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honestly obama
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Whoever was the first king.
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>>2134388
Me in 10 years

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""The pen is mightier than the sword!" In human affairs, the truth is hard to find, why is why that expression is true. We couldn't topple Rudolf the Great with the sword, but we exposed his crimes against human society. That is the power of the pen. The pen can impeach the dictator of a hundred years ago or the tyrant of a thousand years ago."

What are some cases in point? What historical figures have only been able to be condemned by the pen rather than fought with arms?
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I personally don't believe this, because if this quote was true than we would have had Islam empire, Roman Empire, Alexander The Great's empire Persian, Egyptian kingdom, mongol empire, and many others. It just sounds good, but isn't true. Sword out weights the pen.
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>>2134380
Wouldn't have.
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>>2134363
>What historical figures have only been able to be condemned by the pen rather than fought with arms?

The United States

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>Another incident took place on the same occasion, which will further delineate Mr. Hamilton's political principles. The room being hung around with a collection of the portraits of remarkable men, among them were those of Bacon, Newton and Locke. Hamilton asked me who they were. I (Thomas Jefferson) told him they were my trinity of the three greatest men the world had ever produced, naming them. He paused for some time: “The greatest man,” said he, “that ever lived, was Julius Caesar.”

Was Hamilton history's greatest troll? Even more so than Eamon de Valera?
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>>2134275
He's not wrong
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>>2134275
>history's greatest troll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Dexter
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>>2134284
The joke is that Jefferson was a staunch republican with strong libertarian leanings, who feared someone like Hamilton would overthrow the republic and establish a monarchy.

The question of Julius Caesar's greatness is secondary to Hamilton's excellent baiting of Tommy J.

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So, was he indian or persan?
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>>2134259
>If you study reality without using your mind, youll understand both.
I don't understand what this means.
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>>2134259
india didn't exist back then
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>>2134265
Generally speaking, the abolishment of stratified and taxonomic categorical thinking. This pigeon-holes us into certain preboxed and unreflective modes of thinking.

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Tell me about the Soviet Union in the 1980s

Adam Curtis makes it seem like the entire place was a mess
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It was. Some American technocrats thought that the Soviet Union was still quite the powerhouse it had been since the end of the Second world War, but this was a fantasy.

President Reagan and Prime Minister Thatcher were now unintentionally constructing a fake version of the Soviet Union, and they were taking this fake version of what was in fact a crumbling former powerhouse to the heart of Afghanistan, where it would mutate into a complete fiction world that still haunts us today

[Burial intensifies]
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It was, especially since ~1987. Inherently ineffective economic and political systems, low oil prices (the only thing international market was interested in), huge politically motivated social security spending (because of MUH WORKER PARADISE), a dozen of unwilling satellites to keep in check, the Afghan war, raising nationalism in national republics, real food shortage threats (USSR had been buying grain from US and Canada since 60s because apparently socialism and agriculture don't work well together), rise of popular consumerism and total disenchantment as a result of ruling elites to provide expected standards of living, huge military spending.

In the end the oil/food problem was fatal. USSR leadership had to negotiate deconstruction of the empire and political reforms in exchange for loans they spent on buying food supplies. They tried to introduce some limited marked economy while controlling prices on the basic goods and food and refusing to back down on social security, resulting in huge real inflation, black market and goods shortages. Attempts of political reforms from above finally demoralized the population and the party lost popular support it had for so long. The new national elites in the republics use this to gradually undermine central authority, until the center finally accepted it's over in the December 1991.

From regular person's POV it was a time of sudden rise of crime rates, drugs, poverty and slow disintegration of society into the total mess the 90s will be.
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By the 80's it was a complete mess. Having state control of 90% of production is prone to disaster. There was a black market back then, of course. People kinda take for granted how well the market is able to distribute goods.

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