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>Greeks made water potable by diluting it with wine
>Egyptians and Sumerians drank beer every day
>Bible contains ten different words in Hebrew and Aramaic to refer to varying alcoholic drinks, and five words in Koine Greek, in addition to multiple references to drunkenness
>alcohol abuse was so bad in MENA that Muhammad had to ban it from his religion entirely

Was every single human being basically drunk 24/7 for the majority of written history? Was every historical text we know of written by someone who was shitfaced?
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My grandma grew up in rural 1930s Romania drinking diluted wine, said only the very old or the village family of alcoholics (who everyone scorned) got truly drunk, definitely most everyone was buzzed though. When she migrated to the us in her early 20s she said she spent the rest of her adult life avoiding wine as she was repulsed by it, and only started drinking again in retirement
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they liked getting fucked up
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I always wondered about that. I know that beer was actually used as currency to pay workers in certain periods but after a hot day slaving away sweating your balls off I think alcohol would probably be the worst thing you can possibly drink. I guess they must have diluted it a whole bunch?

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>tfw no anarchist Ukraine
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>>2368992
with a flag like that it deserved to collapse
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>>2368992
The bloody white baron did literally nothing wrong
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>>2368992
Makhno went from revolutionary to carpenter, the opposite of Jesus.

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Post shitty medieval art in this thread
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boy he bout to fuck up that goofy ass dragon
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Best one comin' through
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>>2367884
*tips kettlehelm*

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Literally no other culture in history is this autistic.
>created primitive writing based on pictographs, then just stuck with it forever even after literally everyone else switched to phonetic writing instead
>created a meritocratic examination system for entering government, and kept the exact same ancient Confucian texts on the curriculum for centuries even after the language they were written in died
>created an entire system of medicine based entirely on making shit up, that people still believe in today, that you can obtain a degree in at a so-called "medical school", and that people prefer over the scientific method-based Western medicine
>created a massive fleet of treasure ships to re-open trade after the Mongol dynasty ended, then scuttled it instead of launching the Age of Exploration a couple of centuries early because the new emperor decided China must look inwards to strengthen itself
>created the Mandate of Heaven as a meme to insist that each dynasty could claim it was a legitimate continuation of the previous one, even though they had different geographic power bases, different cultures, and different languages, and that the constant unification and collapse of the country was somehow a natural cycle dictated by Heaven
>their first true emperor died because he drank shitloads of mercury thinking it would make him immortal
>they randomly discovered gunpowder not by scientific method but because alchemists were doing random shit trying to find an elixir of immortality
>every few decades some dumb shit happens like a Taoist guy tells everyone he can do magic or some dude who failed his exams claims to be the brother of Jesus Christ, and this instantly creates mass chaos that leaves tens of millions dead
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>>2367742
It's not entirely known why the treasure ships were built but it is clear that trade and profit were NOT one of the reasons. The Yongle emperor's nephew had attempted a coup which failed and he went into hiding. It seems a major part of zheng he's mission was to scour the globe for any information about him and if he was found to kill him. After the coup attempt the emperor also sought to strengthen his legitimacy so he may have been trying to expand the tributary system and look for new allies against the Mongols.

The treasure ships were sent out over the loud objections of the beuaureacratic faction who considered it a waste of money that wasn't doing anything to enhance national defense. When his successor was captured by Mongols while touring the frontier the ransom for his release ruined the nation's finances so there simply wasn't money to continue, and from then on they really got serious about building the great Wall which of course was an unimaginably huge expenditure. That did have the backing of the civil service and was seen as vital to national defense.
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>>2367742
>writing
Its called having a relatively stable civilization. This means no foreigners replacing the root language.

>meritocratic
Again related to first point. Relatively stable civilization kept their roots intact. Meanwhile Greeks lost their Plato/Aristotles for thousands of years. The reason for Confucian texts is because it became the gold standard of how a man should live their life and how they should see the role they play in the civilization and the roles of the government. This is basic civics course, this is what most public school teaches these days all around the world. Simple and effective.

>medicine
Some are effective some are not. They're based on old standards that rural chinese and superstitious people believe in. Even the "civilized" world hasn't eliminated delusional people believing in their fathers who live in the sky and punishes people for masturbating or using condoms.
>treasure ships
Meant to display wealth/power of a certain dynasty due to them restoring the proper power to Han China. Became decadant over time due to power/pleasure corrupting people, like everywhere/when else in the world.
>mandate
Sorta like "we wuz romanz" but its "we wuz Han n shiet" Han as in the concept of civilized man.
>mercury immortality
Delusions of an emperor
>accidental discovery of gunpowder
Shit happens. Its not like scientific method was invented in 300 CE. If people waited for scientific method to be invented before inventing anything else, humans would still be in the trees like the monkeys
>cult
Cult
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>>2367826
You can't defend the Chinese medical system. There's something wrong if your country is a rising superpower, third biggest economy in the world, and your doctors prescribe tadpole urine capsules and tell you to face the North through a window three times a day.

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>hooray the great war's over!
>now what to partition germany into...
>ah! why don't we create a state that hasn't existed for 115 years!
was it autism?
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>>2367424

Poland existed as a nation throughout the periods when it didn't exist as a state.
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>>2367424
Poland is one of those pointless states that only exist when either no European great power is capable or willing to lay their claim on the area inhabited by bunch of Russian catholics or they need a buffer state between them and their enemies.
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>hooray the franco-prussian war's over
>now what to unite germany into...
>ah! why don't we create a state that hasn't existed ever!
was it autism?

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Why do normies worship science instead of God?

Almost 95% of them don't even understand science. They just read pop science articles and watch BIll Nye bullshit.
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Most people just buy whole heartedly into whatever the cultural zeitgeist of their time is.
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>>2364881
Not everyone in medieval Europe understood theology and the finer nuances of Christian thought. They just parroted what they were told by the Church, be it Protestant or Catholic.

Normies are sheep no matter what era
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>>2364881
Why do faggots attach anime girls to everything?

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Was there a difference between Anglo-Saxons and vikings?
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>>2363871
Well I think Anglo-Saxons came from southern Jutland, and Saxony, whilst vikings were mostly Norwegian and Danish.
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Anglo-Saxons say shirt, vikings say skirt
Anglo-Saxons say shatter, vikings say scatter
Anglo-Saxons say church, vikings say kirk
Anglo-Saxons say ditch, vikings say dike
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>be dane
>be pagan
>like sailing around
>invade britain
>convert to christianity
the only difference between anglos and vikings was the time period

saxons were from northern Germany though

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>tfw honestly believe three but think everything else is silly
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>>2358805
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>>2358805
>The Einsatzgruppen was an anti-terrorist organization
Are you saying it wasn't?

This has been baffling me, what is it about China that allows them to keep bouncing back to a top three power?

You have other major powers that went to the top for a while, then after getting BTFO they just disappear from relevance. Assyrians, Persians, Romans, Spanish, Dutch, French, British, etc., most great powers have one or two turns at being in the top three, and then drop out and never rise to the top again.

But somehow despite getting BTFO countless times throughout history, China just keeps rebounding and becoming a major power again a few centuries later. If you think about how much blood has been spilled and damage done to China from the endless infighting and civil war, plus famines and disasters, and then add in the millions upon millions slaughtered by invaders like the Mongols and the shitfest that was the century of humiliation it's astounding how a country with such a terrible KDA can still be not only kicking but also back near the top yet again.
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>>2347930
They're massive and they word hard?
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Numbers my friend. Look anywhere in history and anywhere in nature. Its the key to survivability.
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>>2347969
>Brazil

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ITT: History's worst flags.
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>>2346452
When your flag design looks like fabric that a cartoon character's underwear might be made from, you may have chosen poorly.
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>>2346452
Jesus Christ what the fuck is that
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>>2346490
Tehfuck?

>Iberia in the Caucasus
>Albania in the Caucasus

Explain this, /his/.
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ask the greeks and the romans
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>>2374549
>slavs in romania
>native Americans in elysia
>slavs in Germany
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>>2374549
>germans in poland

> the entirety of human existence will be defined by the Danse Macabre of those who have power and those who seek to attain it, until the day our species destroys itself. We're just the pawns caught in the middle.

So tiring and so tedious. The only way to win is the fuck off to the mountains and become a zen master talk to like deers and shit
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That's my plan in a few years.
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>>2374540
may your journey bring you peace.
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>>2374513
I'm 14 and this is deep

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Was wondering if anyone could work out what this word is.

Context: He was serving as a /// officer in the west Indies.
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cimnified mbe
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>>2374180
Commissioned is my bet

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>Columbus discovered America
>Lincoln didn't free the slaves
>National socialism isn't literally what says it is (socialism on a nationalistic basis)
>le noble savage
>Absolutely nothing about the conventional story of the holocaust is false or exaggerated and if you disagree you're a nazi apologist
>The British taxation of the colonies were unjustified or excessive
>Africa didn't have any advanced civilization or complex history before colonization
>le communism always fails

Am I missing any major ones?
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>>2373876
>Austria Hungary imploded on its own and wasn't just destroyed by outside forces
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>>2373876
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Spookposting

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>destroying the Roman Empire
>luther
>marx
>starting world war 1
>wriggling their way out of paying war reparations
>start world war 2
>genocide half of europe
>somehow kvetch their way to reunification
>flood europe with migrants
What the hell is their problem?
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Are you from Eastern Europe or the PIIGS?
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>>2373699
or French? or Anglo?
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>>2373690

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