Slott Spider-Epic Pt. 21

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Heading back home now!!!

>>90803224
Fuck off cuck

Just got here, whose the scalie lady?

>>90804648

Are we going to hit the last issue of superior? And get that juicy moment?

>>90804684

That's Carlie Cooper. Former Spidey GF and Police Forensics Person (I think)

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>>90804710
Absolutely.

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Why is it that every time villains tear up downtown or rob banks the police are powerless to stop them, yet whenever a hero goes rogue they start pulling out all the stops using every resources at their disposal. It makes no sense

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And now Peter's come full circle.

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While I do like this page, I'm still not quite certain how Peter got his memories back.

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>I've done bridges. This time I thought I'd go with tunnels.
Wow

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Aww snap.

>>90805103
Its kind of a paradox; as Spider-man was dying he got Ock to relive all his memories to understand that power and responsibility etc. Ock erased all of Peter's memories, but Ock still had the memory of Peter giving him all of his memories, so.. y'know. Its bullshit, but a lot of it is bullshit.

I'm trying to catch up, trying to look at thread 4. Desu archive is being unco-operative, better options?

>>90805103
>So much fun

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>Shut up!
I know I shouldn't have but this got me to laugh really hard.

>>90805187
I like the version of Ock in these storylines where he realized he was trash and needs to either be better or acknowledge that Peter was better.

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I love this page.

>>90805182
I've been dragging my ass when it comes to uploading things online so I'll continue tomorrow.

>>90805182
Desu tends to do that. There's nothing you can do but wait or download it yourself

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>>90805256
Shame it didn't happen more often. He ranged from self reflective and guilt ridden, motivated to be better to
>I see everything in this city! Everything!
>That is my power! And my responsibility--
>To watch over and judge you all!

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>Sheds a tear for Spock.
I hate you, Peter.

>>90805399
That's why I liked Superior Team-Up and the like so much. They really had him open his eyes, from the very first issue, to how shitty he was.

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AND HE'S BACK LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!! Spock's wild ride ends in the next issue....for now.

>>90805399
Maybe Ock can get Anna to fall for him now that he has a new sexy body.

Welcom back, OP.

Are you planning to accomodate any of the other spidey-senpai books that ran a long side this?

If not do you mind giving the run down on which series you've read and enjoyed?

Thanks, man, soldier on.

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>>90805496
I plan on doing Spider-Man 2099 accompanying

>>90805256
He wasn't trash, he could honestly handle some situations better than Peter, but Osborn sure as hell wasn't one of them.

Then again Peter couldn't deal with Osborn either in the past numerous times. Osborn being wary of true Peter at the end here and going "oh no, only you can beat me, my true rival"(sorta) seems like an odd interpretation in order to wank Peter and Osborn. I remember a time Osborn had Peter locked up in a basement for a few weeks and put Flash in a coma. Peter never deals with Osborn that well. Osborn's plans were a lot more simple in the past as well. "I'll kidnap a girl and throw her off a bridge in front of Spider-man", short and simple. Hard part about Osborn is that he's a dick about it, he makes it personal each time.

This story also ends on a cliffhanger that seems entirely forgotten later.

>>90805612
I meant he was trash back when he was Doc Ock himself, not Spider-man.

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>>90805496
I plan on finishing the last bit of Superior Team Up, then I'm going to finish up Scarlet Spider. Afterward I'm going to start Slott's Volume 2 (including the learning to crawl -- not sure about all Spider-Verse tie ins but I'm working on it) and Spider-Man 2099 (both series). Then I'll go to Amazing Spider-Man 3 and then Clone Conspiracy.

In terms of series I've read and enjoyed, I've read most in depth and some of the more boring arcs in passing. All in all, here are my thoughts.

>Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1 (Slott)
Definitely does not hold up as well as I hoped it would it's still far from terrible.

>Avenging Spider-Man (1-15)
A range of mediocre to good stories with a wide range of artists and writers.

>Avenging Spider-Man (15.1+)
The stronger half of the series.

>Superior Team UP
A fantastic continuation of Yost's work on Avenging.

>Scarlet Spider
Did I mention how awesome Yost is? He was also a produce on Earth's mightiest heroes.

>Superior Spider-Man
I'd argue one of the high points in Slott's entire catalog. It's stupid fun.

>Avenging Vol. 2
VERY UNDERWHELMING! Spider-Verse was stupid fun but this series definitely shows that Slott is running low on ideas.
>Venom (Remender)
Because of this series, if I ever get to choose and Avengers roster I'm putting him.

>Venom (Bunn)
Nowhere near on Remender's level but still a decent set of issues.

>Spider-Man 2099 (David)
I thought it would be terrible, and then I got one of the best Spider-Man stories ever.

>AMazing Spider-Man Vol. 3
I'm still forming an opinion.

>>90805399
See, as someone who didn't really like Superior because of how stupid everyone else acted, another reason I don't like it is that all this character development that we went through here is gone. Current Otto/Superior Octopus only has his memories up to the crossover with 2099 (and Spider-verse).

>>90805815
>Spider-Man 2099 (David)
>I thought it would be terrible, and then I got one of the best Spider-Man stories ever.
Peter David is great.

>>90805850
>That sounds just stupid enough to be right.

Miguel in a nutshell. And I love him for it.

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>>90805835
Shit. You're right.

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>>90803224
Which cover came first?

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This little kid needs a bully.

>>90805974
Lot of consequences are hand-waves in one panel in this issue I'm noticing

Also every time I see Phil I remember how much they ruined him just to gain a one dimensional villain. They could have made him evil Peter Parker or something, since his backstory is the same even to the point of both having an Uncle Ben and power out of nowhere, except no one died for Phil to teach him regret. He started out being something between hero or villain, more neutral when it comes down to it but still wanted to protect some people around him.

But instead they just kinda made him, not so much.

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>>90806057
The most glorious one panel hand wave has yet to come. Also Liz Allen is a milf

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Probably one of the top five pages out of all of Slott's issues.

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This is probably one of the worst pages of Slott's run bar none.

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I am so glad Norman managed to get away. And the fact that he's not crazy now will make him a new monster entirely. I do wonder if he still has the Goblin fetish now that he's not crazy anymore

>>90806332
Yep. Not to mention Miguel is standing right there. How did he let a non powered Norman Osborn get away?

>>90806270
>We're supposed to go "OMG he said [No One Dies] again, squee so cool, Slott. So Cool, classic Spider-man, that's his catchphrase now"

It was shit at the time its shit now. I know he's trying to draw a parallel back trying to make this iconic for him, its supposed to make us feel relieved like he's really back saying his iconic line, its shit.

Slott, that is not a good line. Stop using it, it was bad ever since Massacre when you started doing it. It won't catch on, he's not Batman.

>>90806332
I can't believe that Slott couldn't think of a better way for Osborn to get away.

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And before anybody says anything, I think I had spoilered all of the last pages initially and then decided to unspoiler and I guess I forgot a couple.

>>90806359
>>90806359
>How did he let a non powered Norman Osborn get away?
Too busy checking out Ms. Allen to notice.

>>90806332
I think so many comic writers go "lol its just comics, stop taking it seriously" to excuse to shittiest of writing they can pull off each time.

There are non shit comics with decent writing, those are the ones remembered. Not shit like X-men vs Inhumans which is just a cash in. Have shit planned out especially with the climax so readers aren't just annoyed. It takes everyone out of the experience. The point of stories is to create a fiction that draws people in long enough for them to believe it for a bit.

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>>90806517

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>>90806517
>>90806517
>I think so many comic writers go "lol its just comics, stop taking it seriously" to excuse to shittiest of writing they can pull off each time.
True words

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Bout time

>>90806332
Did that stupid bitch ever pay for this happening yet? I honestly gave up reading ASM after how terrible Spider-Verse was. and when I came back for Clone Conspiracy, I left again

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>>90807330
She hasn't paid as of yet but I still remain hopeful.

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And this is why you don't fuck with Norman.

>>90805489
Doubtful even if he does lie she'll know his personality

>>90806720
Piss off MJ. You say this and then go work for Tony Stark.

I miss a well written MJ. At least she's great in Renew your vows.

>>90806332
Oh no he ran around the corner

>>90805531
>>90805815
Thanks for the reply, OP.

I grew up with 2099 and I love Peter David so I'm hyped for that storytime.

Do you think Miles and Silk would be worth my time to follow up on my own when the time comes? I've already read all of Superior Foes and found it brilliant.

I stopped reading Marvel around fear itself/heroic age era so these past storytimes are helping me catch up on what I've missed these last 5 or so years.

>>90807892
Not him, but I really don't think Miles is worth reading. He's got all the personality of a brick.

I think he has the potential, but not under Bendis.

Silk's comic is actually pretty great, and 1000 times better than how Slott wrote her. Shame that the fill in artist who took over sucked.

>>90807977
Cheers, anon. My backlog is already fat as fuck so at the very least I'll put him at the very bottom.
>>90807992
Oh shit.

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DUN DUN DUN!!!!

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I'm so glad someone finally decided to do something with Kraven. Ever since he was brought back during Grimm Hunt I feel like he hasn't given much to do other than appear as a villain in other heroes stories.

>>90805435
>>90805435

But, Ocks gear and way of doing things offers way more advantages....why give all those up?!?!?!?

Dammit I want Spock back!!!

>hero's friends angry at hero because of what villain did that hero tried and failed to stop
this garbage trope

>>90806332
Are you fucking shitting me?

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watching iron fist right now. I want to murder every single character except Danny and Harold. This has been going on for two episodes.

>>90805413
That was Otto's tear. Peter is wiping it off.

>>90805307

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Last issue for the night. Also surprisingly the last issue of the Scarlet Spider series. I hope everyone enjoyed the 21st consecutive ish thread!

>>90810123
This page perfectly summarizes how insane Kaine's life is

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>>90810209
We need more Kaine stat

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Take notes Slott. This is how you end a series while under pressure to end the series sooner than intended.

>>90809516
Really? The only likeable character in the show IMO is Colleen. Danny is dull as a rock, and the actor doesn't help.

>>90809329
Extremely garbage trope. Just as bad as, if you kill the villain you'll be just like them argument.

>>90810639
Thanks OP. I really hope Peter David puts Aracely in the new Scarlet Spider book

>>90810164
Thanks, famalam. Catch you in thread #22.

>>90810907
Fingers crossed. She's too great of a character to never do anything with. She went to the New Warriors series. Don't know where she is currently.

>>90810940
She died along with the rest of the New Warriors when the Inheritors came after Kaine.

>>90805399
We might have actually cared about Anna if Slott had expanded her character beyond "dude food science lol"

Spock went out of his way to trash his Horizon coworkers, but then immediately goes for someone with the same quirky science shtick.

>>90811190
Otto probably has massive inferiority issues and thus will latch on to anyone that would show him affection, regardless of circumstance

>>90811082
Recent story showed they're all still recovering in the hospital or something. It was the issue where Kaine came back and realized he was going to die and stuff.

>>90811244
thank christ. I was about to lose was last little bit of faith in Marvel I had left. if that was actually how they all went out. I would have been fucking done.

>>90806057
The annual the thread started off with has been the closest thing to giving Phil depth since Slott's run started. Superior needed more of that, where Spock learns from people because of his different mindset. A lot of earlier interactions like Black Widow had the potential for this, but Slott didn't seem to view it that way.

>>90810542
I wish Kaine could still turn into a spider-thing.

>>90811802
It was one of the best parts

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>>90811955
Yup.

https://twitter.com/yost/status/832395486527000577

A reminder of what could have been. Reading these storytimes reminded of how bittersweet Flash and Kaine's runs were.

>>90806332
Damn, if only Miguel had some sort of ranged rope like substance to subdue Norman! Unfortunately he only has the powers of a spider!

>>90810639
Why WAS the water red?

>>90805435
See this is why some people still like Slott. He writes as if everything were clip shows. He very obviously has these pictures in mind when building his stories. So he more or less gets these bizarrely cool moments right.
It's just that everything in between sucks. The meat of it, story and characters, gets wrecked to get to the cool moment.

>>90811955
nope

>>90807213
I've always wanted a one shot comic focusing on Emily Osborn. She's so important to Norman yet we know next to nothing about her.

What kind of woman could love a man like him?

>>90807330
I have no idea if she's even still evil.
Her depiction has done a 180°, can't tell if she's faking it or if they've just dropped the idea.

>>90820120
She was probably a one in a million type of person. Anyone to temper Osborn was probably an exceptional human being.

>>90806802
>we've both earned happiness
>but Peter can go suck editor's dick in hell