any good hamilton books
>>9679190
Hangover Square, Twenty Thousand Streets Under the Sky, Craven House, and if you like plays, you could try Rope or Gaslight (aka Angel Street)
>>9679241
haha thats funny lol :)
i'm gay
>>9679248
stop bumping threads where your faggot question got answered
Gimme some edgy satanic literature
gimme gimme
>>9679129
Maldoror
>now bugger off
My Diary desu
Hey /lit/ I'm looking for books that are like early Chuck Palahniuk and the works of Bret Easton Ellis.
Wikipedia says that those are transgressive authors but the other well known ones that are listed like Irvine Welsh are not my cup of tea.
Any recomendations? One of those pics with a bunch of book covers will be welcome.
Bump
One last bump.
Michel houellebecq - elementary particles, whatever
Elliot Rodger - my twisted world
Maybe James ellroy - American tabloid and its sequels
Maybe jay McInerney - bright lights big city, and others
I assume you mean edgy young male literature that we all like but are then pressured out of reading and talking about because we're supposed to give a fuck about 19th century nobility soap operas or 20th century new York pseudo intellectual pomo faggots.
>1072 pages
how do i get into this?
>>9679044
You read all his other ones first. That's the mic drop
page 1 is a good place to start
It's lighter than Crime and Punishment imho. Just takes longer.
Why can't I find this at my local bookstore?
just order it.
you can even order it at the bookstore, if you're real autistic
>>9679026
You can, the author's name is usually misspelled though.
>>9679026
You have to use his pen name aka Avellaneda.
Go hellopoetry.com and bring something back. Extra points if you edit it into something good.
bumping with a few to start
>>9678958
Where's the poem?
Short horror story anthologies/collections...
Read any good ones? I have read a few at this point of varying quality. For some reason, editors insist on putting at least a few shit stores among the good.
So, if you know of any high quality collections, please share.
Note: There were only two books in pic related's series. 2014/2015. Both had very interesting stories but the publisher pulled the plug.
Halfway through this. A lot of the stories aren't really horror though. Many are just "weird" in the literal sense of the term, not in the cosmic horror way Lovecraft used.
Ellen Datlow's Best Horror of the Year series is also really good.
>>9679619
I don't think there should be a compulsion for weird fiction to follow after Lovecraft's cosmic nihilism.
Lovecraft after all modeled his stories - their structure and atmosphere - off of Arthur Machen and Algernon Blackwood etc., which had a more esoteric, 'bewitching nature' basis. And honestly I prefer both of them to Lovecraft, and I love him, but a weird reality is much more compelling from an esoteric, 'Picnic at Hanging Rock'-type point-of-view than a nihilistic one.
“The Tao is always nameless” (Chapter 71)
Trying to narrow down the philosophy of the Tao Te Ching with limiting words is to violate its primordial essence. How can one describe the Universe, the natural order of things, the incessant flowing from being to non-being, the circular unity of a reality traditionally mismatched in dualistic terms?
The Tao Te Ching doesn’t provide answers because there needn’t be questions, just the harmony of moulding to the landscape rather than trying to impose a particular shape on it.
The Tao Te Ching is the route in itself, the path to emptying the human mind of ambitions, schemes and desires and allow it to be flooded with the smoothness of humility and the exhilarating liberation of a simple life.
The Tao Te Ching exults the feminine yin over the masculine yang in the eternal interdependence of opposites, identifying its indwelling suppleness with the intrinsic elements of the Tao.
“The great state should be like a river basin.
The mixing place of the world,
The feminine of the world.
The feminine always overcomes the masculine by its softness
Because softness is lesser.” (Chapter 61)
Thus the Tao cannot be expressed, it has no name, it is indivisible, inaudible and immutable but also the origin of multiplicity that gives way to ambivalent interpretation, which in turn engenders the befuddling suspicion that the more one wants to unravel the Tao the less one masters it because its aim relays precisely in attaining unforced wisdom.
Composed of eighty one aphorisms with aesthetic lyricism reminiscent of ancient riddles or even taunting wordplay, the Tao Te Ching dismisses moral teachings, embraces paradoxical dichotomies and differentiates itself from other doctrines like Confucianism because it relays in intuition rather than in duty rooted on imposed moral principles or any other contrived authority.
According to the introduction (*), some schools of thought have accused the Tao of endorsing chaotic anarchy and of not responding to consistent criteria, but such ambiguity in the use of language and its playful axioms are in fact a pure reflection of its skeptical views on measuring all actions according to artificial rules disguised as traditional rituals.
I can’t claim to have found everlasting serenity in connecting to the natural flow of Taoism and accepting its philosophy of “action through inaction”, but the idea of finding comfort in the constant contradiction of the positive and negative forces within oneself in order to embrace the convoluted intricacies of existence casts an overwhelming shadow to the absolute dichotomies and blind beliefs prompted by the more familiar monotheistic “fear based” religions, where guilt, punishment and suffering are the conduits to salvation.
Why crave for redemption if we learn to follow the “way things are” and welcome the natural interdependence between opposites, accepting disorder, nothingness and non-being as part of the indestructible unity of all things?
Blah blah blah
Shut the fuck up, fag.
Stop talking.
>>9678893
Typing isn't talking.
>>9678912
Words are words.
Language is language.
You are gay.
You watch the clock, asking it for permission. Permission to wait. Permission to move.
You see the time, it tells you what to do. The calendar tells you how the day should be like, for you to be surprised - every time.
You hear a statement, you like the statement; this is good.
Learn physics, eat physics, see physics, become physics.
Dreams of awakening; sell them to me. [Any books of the sort, give them to me. I want to become, to become. I'm tired; I saw boredom.]
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
>>9678737
I was to expect this. Alas, it is no /tv/, but it is!
A visual thinker, I.
>>9678730
I like this.
Are they any good? Is it a good introduction to a topic or philosopher? Why, or why not? What is /lit/'s thoughts on Alain de Botton?
>>9678647
Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7TgtCYB3MA
>>9678647
Yes. They do pretty well summarizing concepts for those not well versed in the area. They're a more simplified crash course philosophy though, both are pretty good for entry level people not very heavy handed.
>>9678647
Aren't they the faggots who started their video about Nietzsche with "Nietzsche was a nihilist" or "Nietzsche embraced nihilism"?
If it's them, they're shit.
>severely depressed existencial nihilist
>apathetic and anhedonic about everything
>reading only for productivity and self-improvement
>realize i'm going to die anyway and exactly the only thing i do is literally futile
>>9678616
Unless your world view is wrong on an axiomatic level. Distrust your memories, even if for a bit.
>>9678616
It gets better once you're out of high school.
>>9678616
ah to be 17 again
Thoughts on Faust?
>>9678613
Is the Philip Wayne translation acceptable?
thoughts on water
is it wet ?
ok imma try something crazy here cuz I'm bored; let's have a serious discussion
Faust is one of my personal favorites
Goethe explores here beautfiully the nature (i.e. the impossibilty) of living a fullfilled life.
When Mephisto and Faust make the pact, Faust says he can have his soul as soon as he is truely content/fullfilled ("Sollt' ich zum Momente sagen, verweile doch du bist so schön..."). A lot of people hate on the 2nd part because it's so "absurd" but I think what Goethe really want to say here is that it is literally that absurd to archieve full happiness (as Faust does at the end of the 2nd part). He explores this notion in his Wilhelm Meister, a book wich has no true beginning and end, it's just a endlos journey of evolving/change, but ultimatley you are never "finished" (i.e. at a point in life where you can say "ok I'm fullfilled now, that's the end)
One of the themes that resonantes with me the most is the tornness of the individual between living a 'hedonistic' (pleasureful, life), i.e. finding meaning in love and the human desire for understanding and 'meaning' ("Zwei Seelen wohnen, ach, in meiner Brust.."). But also that with all the knowledge at our disposal we can only ever scrap on the surface of the "truth" ("Hier steh ich nun ich armer Tor - und bin so schlau als wie zuvor").
Another key lesson in the first Faust is, that it's not as simple as "make a pact with the devil and you will suffer". Goethe is way more subtle here(Faust get's rewarded greatly for his heresy) instead showing, that if we make the metaphorical pact with the devil, it's those who we love/which are closest to us who have to suffer. (The real tragedy in the play happens to Gretchen, loosing her mother, brother and even having to kill her child because of her love to Faust).
there is just so much to talk about in this small book, such as Goethes critique of the Church and his humanistic/metaphisical remarks but it's been a while since I last read it
Post em
Roses are red.
Violets are blue
OP is a faggot
>>9678574
What is Byron's "best" poem?
Is rhyme important?
When did rhyming fall out of style in poetry?
>"start with the Greeks"
>not studying/being able to read Greek
Defend yourselves plebians
I'm not a burger so I don't have to start at the absolute source.
>>9678531
Yeah I just think it's stupid that the people on this board always talk about this meme of "starting with the Greeks" but don't ever read it in anything but translation.
>>9678546
>he thinks translating is difficult
What is some classic literature that will kindle my passion for life?
t. Dead inside
Being dead inside is the end goal of intellectualism. You're finally equipped to live.
>>9678505
That's something that you gotta find out yourself.
I don't think an easy answer exists- somebody else, some magical inspiring book, etc.
>>9678505
the smell of your own fart