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Leave this board and never return if:

>you read any form of genre fiction
>you barely know your classics
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
>you speak a single language
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
>you read for the plot
>you read for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
>you don't have at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon
>you mostly read contemporary literature
>you believe 'the author is dead'
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight

What book are you currently reading?
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Brapposting is the highest form of literature.

prove me wrong.
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>>9930745
People who have reached the point where they don't do any of that have ascended past the point of /lit/. Instead, you should be encouraging plebs/normies/casuals/whatever you want to call them to browse /lit/ more heavily.
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>>9930745
>>you speak a single language
HAH. Do you think I have time to divert from my mastery of the english language? Bilinguals are the true plebs

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What would you recommend?
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the bible
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>>9938053
Russians are the lost tribes of Israel?
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Litvinienko who died for his sins

This is the only book on my shelf not written by a straight white male.
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it is really a book though
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it is really a book though
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it is really a book though

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I want to write a book about awkward 18-19 year old late bloomers, but they're too old for YA and too prudish for NA, and it's not really a romance so where doesit fit? Why is YA only for 16 year olds and why is NA basically erotica?
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>>9930725
Thank you for reminding me I need to get off 4chan and be productive. Have a nice day
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>>9930753
Okay.
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>18-19
>"late bloomer"
lmao your brain is all cucked up dude. do not write a single word, no one wants to read this, trust me.

Why are musicians who composed complex works (Mozart, Beethoven, Bach) much more productive than writers?

For example, Shakespeare wrote at most some 37 plays (some of them with collaboration), the 154 sonnets and two longer poems. Yet even Beethoven, who was very demanind about what he wrote and how much he would polish a piece composed at least 135 works with Opus number (and there are many more without opus number).

What’s the main difference, for example, in writing a piano concerto and a Shakespearean comedy? Is the comedy more time-demanding?

Dont name Lope de Vega as an example: his writing was very bad, no even near in artistic quality as the Shakespeare plays and the best works of Mozart/Beethoven
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Music is easy. It's also less time consuming than writing.

Stupid thread, sage
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>>9937958
Beethoven and Mozart wrote alot of stuff because they thought it would only be played once on a special occasion. They were ordered to by nobility.
>>9937967
Not true. Fuck off, retard.
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>Lope de Vega
>bad
>implying you have any resemblance if taste

Anyway, there are many writers who were extremely prolific, like Lope himself, Benito Perez Galdos, Dickens, Chesterton, Balzac, Johnson, Bacon, etc, and there are other who wrote very little in comparison, like Sabato, Joyce, Ariosto, etc. You also have to consider that there is a difference between what a writer published and what they actually wrote. We have around 37 surviving plays by Shakeapeare, but there are some that are lost and others that he may have written but destroyed, abandoned or went lost without anyone noticing.

However, you seem to equate quantity with quality, which is a very stupid thing to do, even more so when you force the comparison of creative output and process of two different artforms.

do I need to know something about buddhism before I read this?
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>>9930715
No but if you know german, read the original.
This is actually a good intro to Buddishm.
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>>9930715
Schopenhauer for Hesse.
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>>9930751
Common sense

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Are there any awards that are actually worth caring about? Pic unrelated
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t. I don't get Dylan
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>>9937914
>waaahhh! the last winner didn't write a 900 pages beam-of-consciousness novel! They're phonies!

Bob Dylan is a genius and deserved it at least as much as Faulkner did.
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Lannan Literary Awards

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Post your handwriting
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My handwriting is garbage and I am ashamed of it.
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>>9930734
this, it's pure chicken scratch
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>From the fact that somebody is "a big man" we cannot infer that he is a man; perhaps he is merely a boy, or a chameleon of all the ages of life, or a bewitched little female.
what did he mean by this?
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He means that while the big guy may be a big guy for you, he is not necessarily a big guy for someone else.
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>>9930703
Some physically intimidating men have feminine spirits or souls. In other words, some big dudes are pussies.
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He means he resents Chad

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What is the saddest, the most depressing book that you've ever read, /lit/?
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In response to the pic:

Why didn't you make something happen?
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>>9937840
Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence
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>>9937840
bump

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Just read this, what else should I read to learn more about the history of art?
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you actually read all of that?
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>>9937848
i read the entire two volume of jansen's history of art, which is twice as long, maybe you just a self-disciplinelet
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>>9937848
What's the problem if he did?

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Anyone read this so far? I'm a little over halfway done and think it's a pretty solid contender for Roth's masterpiece.
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>>9930691
its too bad no one as responded so far because I wouldlike to hear what people say. Personally i havent read it or even heard of it but you have made me want to read it potentially
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>>9930691
I enjoyed that a lot. I still think American Pastoral is his best but this was funny, pervy and surprisingly moving at times.
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>>9930691
Roth considers it one of his best works. For me, AP takes the cake, but Roth novels hit more than they miss--they're pretty much all winners.
A couple great Roth interviews/docs:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lGbYxBxyUec
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh_tCH4ztRM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h5M1uTcBMrs

Is there a book about approaches manhood in the same way like The Second Sex does women? Red pills need not apply, thank you
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Esther Vilar's Manipulated Man

Roy Baumeister's Is There Anything Good About Men?

Warren Farrel's Myth of Male Power
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>>9937696
>book about approaches manhood
> Red pills need not apply
hmm... what did he mean with that?
Manhood is ultimately about getting redpilled. Those who don't are the manchildren you hear so much about.
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The Leopard

is this book good? anyone read it?

also general "books that teach you history" thread
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No.
I have not read it. However;
I've read Vanished Kingdoms by Davies, which I did enjoy but was a little too detailed for my taste.
Books about history that I would recommend: Peter Turchin's War and Peace and War, and the Great Leveler by Walter Scheidel.
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>>9930736
alright, noted, i think ill read it then

thanks!

pic related is kinda cool btw

I just realized that the source of my problems is that I am a terrible person, with a mean, bitter heart. Best books to cure me of this?
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>>9930661
The Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis
Notes from the Underground by Dostoevsky
Flannery O' Connor's short stories

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