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I want to read shakespeare, but having into account my first language is the language of american gardeners and taco chefs, I think I'm missing so much about him.

So, what I'm missing?
Why he was so important?
Why is he heralded as the best writer in history?
What makes him so good?
How hard is to write poethry at his level?
What would take to reach his skill level?
What previous knowledge do I need to before reading him?
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what is wikipedia
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>>9396713
wikipedia is written by jews.
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read hamlet
every line is important

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What are some essential serious books to read on the occult and practical magic?
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>>9396633
>>>/x/
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>>9396638

>he thinks /x/ is useful for anything besides succubus larping
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>>9396638
/x/ is ridiculously bad, nobody there has read anything other than pasta

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Any literature recommended to pull myself out of feeling this way?

Self-help books, uplifting/hopeful tales welcomed.
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No books for that, bro
Get help and start lying to yourself, thats the only way to make it
Good luck
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Also my reason for asking is I cannot afford a therapist. I figured I'd try fixing the problem on my own. I know this is one of the saddest boards on here and I'm hopeful for some insight on this problem. Any help is appreciated.
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>>9396622
Read the Enchiridion by Epictetus. It helped me.

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Good literary magazines, journals, even online sources?

Pic related has gone to absolute shit (see cover), but I have been enjoying the New Criterion and Laphams
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>>9396440
>Megyn Kelly
Just leak yer nudes already. The upskirt was nice, but we want more.
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LRB and LARB sometimes are OK
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>>9396440
I like some of the stuff Paris Review puts out. But I only go to their site now and then, I don't read any literary magazines

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Can lit rec me some good books on the fall of Rome? Something that juxtaposes the rampant hedonism with immanent collapse perhaps
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hmm i'm pretty sure there's this one book about it op - hopefully someone can remember
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>>9396470
Something like a 6 volume epic history written by a prominent English aristocrat?
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>>9396422
Decline and Fall volumes 1 & 2 are still great. Modern historians love Gibbons style and his level of source knowledge is as great or greater than modern scholars.

Where he fails is that he ignores social/cultural history, and his Greek is shit so that his assessment of Byzantium is way off the mark he thinks they were declining 1000 years before the fall of byzantium. Also, he was an 18th century anti-clerical scholar, so his views on "Popery" are very biased and cynical. That said, his works up to the usurpation of Odoacer are still beautiful and mostly correct.

If you want a modern reassessment, Mary Beard is well regarded academically, although those here who tend towards the /pol9k/ will criticize her for writing a popular history (SPQR) that deals where Gibbons doesnt, that is cultural and social history. She also gives more modern academic views based on work done since Gibbons time.

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which work of fiction would it be most advantageous for humanity to adopt as a sacred text used for moral instruction?
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morning /lit/ is lit af brah
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My Twisted World.
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The Malleus Maleficarum

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I consider poetry to be an abominable use of the written word. Words, sentences, grammar, all exist to convey meaning and sense, not to be 'musical' or 'aesthetic'. This is childishness. Great writer must not concern himself with such pathetic appeals, and great writing is the writing that becomes invisible, replaced by platonic image of pure ideas.
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notice me, /lit/
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>>9396220
>I consider
who gives a shit
fuck off
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>>9396220
Actually, poetry came before prose. And it was used to convey meaning.

I think this is bait.

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>be me
>start reading philosophy
>having a passion for mysticism
>keep studying traditional philosophy
>years pass
>eventualy start studying heidegger "being and time"
>wtf
>he is a mystic
>he says the same thing mystics says with a different terminology
>realise i've just found my favourite philosopher

so ... why are you not reading eastern philosophy ?
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top tier photo by the way
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>>9395956
>thinks b&t is the ultimate expression of such sentiments
>hasn't fucked with late stage Heidegger
>mfw
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>>9395979
>Think this is a b&t
>Havent realised that phenomenology is mostly intellectualized mysticism

I just picked up a copy of Alister McGrath's introduction to Christian theology. I've been an atheist since I was a kid, but in the last two years or so I've been gravitating towards Christianity. I even made a pilgrimage to Rome this last winter. I'm hoping this book will help me get a solid grasp of the religion and help me decide how I should practice my faith.
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Have you read the bible
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>>9395897
I've only read the gospels in their entirety so far.
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>>9395915
Well, Fulton Ossler's "The Greatest Story Ever Told" really helped me better understand Jesus' story. I can recommend that. You should really read the whole bible though.

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What books will stop me from looking at everything through a very cynical, pessimistic lens?

My friends and girlfriend tell me that I'm very negative when I talk openly. It seems like every time I try and talk openly to someone, their eyes get wide, their faces shows concern, and they ask in a soft, worried voice if I'm alright.

I usually try to soften it with humor, which just ends up wit me saying something very dark and absurd. They kind of laugh, but I can tell they're still concerned about me. My friends go out of their way to ask if I'm alright, and my girlfriend always tries to get me to "open up". They're sort of concerned over how much I drink, too, and my girlfriend started dropping hints about "talking to someone".

I don't think I'm really that depressed. I think about killing myself sometimes, but that's more of a fantasy I play out in my head to put everything in perspective.

I hate being this person. People don't like to see someone they care about being miserable. I infect them when I'm around them. Sometimes I can fake a smile, and that puts them in a good mood.

I want to open up with people, be myself, but nobody really wants to be around who I really am.

To paraphrase Hesse in Steppenwolf, "You have to know what's worth caring about, and laugh at the rest". And I'm trying to sort out what matters and what doesn't, but that's two parts of the brain. I can rationalize things, but dull feeling in my chest doesn't go away.

have any books changed your perspective towards thinking about the world? have you read any book that left you with a hopeful, optimistic feeling?
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>>9395360
Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

Many keks to be had. (Tfw 90% of references are from Nuremberg trial.)
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>>9395384
I'm negative not sociopathic
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>>9395360
You need The Good Soldier Svejk stat.

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How far can we take irony?
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>>9395189
I crave sincerity in literature and life at this point. I am all for post-irony
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>>9395196
This.
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>>9395189
>Anonymous 04/17/17(Mon)22:01:17 No.9395189▶>>9395196
>How far can we take irony?
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> Anonymous 04/17/17(Mon)22:02:36 No.9395196▶>>9395215
>>>9395189 (OP)
>I crave sincerity in literature and life at this point. I am all for post-irony
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> Anonymous 04/17/17(Mon)22:06:13 No.9395215▶
>>>9395196
>This.

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Autumn by T. E. Hulme

A touch of cold in the Autumn night—
I walked abroad,
And saw the ruddy moon lean over a hedge
Like a red-faced farmer.
I did not stop to speak, but nodded,
And round about were the wistful stars
With white faces like town children.
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>>9394661
a women could never write like this as their simply inferior
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>>9394661
How do I into poetry. I love Shaekspeare, but I know there are lots of other great Brits out there. Any advice on where to start?
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>>9394670
Try Chaucer

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Name a more beautiful/thought-provoking sentence in the history of literature/philosophy that is as full of brevity as this one.
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>>9394227
Only one enemy remained; two if you count god.
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"Every issue in contemporary western society can be directly traced back to the sexual revolution."
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my diary, desu~

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What's the best way to start reading stoic philosophy and /lit/erature?
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Starting reading stoic philosophy and literature.
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>>9394017
>You open the book.
>You train your eyes upon the written word
>You think about how this can be applied to your own life and experience.
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Starting reading stoic philosophy and literature.

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How do I write a philosophical essay?
Picked a philosophy module by accident and now I'm stuck in this mess
I only have experience writing historic and political essays, how much does philosophy differ? How are arguments presented and different thinkers weighed up against each other?
I suppose my main question is, how do I talk about abstract ideas and concepts, rather than practical things and events?
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You learn by reading them.
Read some philosophy journals.
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>>9393930
i don't have time for that unfortunately
is there no general stylistic rule or some big no nos or something
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>>9393901
What should I read about Diogenes? I heard that none of his actual writings survived

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