Which ones are correct?
>He said it, they said it, and everyone else said it
This is controversial cause the first comma separates 2 independent clauses without a coordinating conjunction
>He said it; they said it; and everyone else said it
This is controversial because there's a coordinating conjunction after the semicolon while a comma is expected
>He said it; they said it, and everyone else said it
This may be grammatically uncontroversial, but semantically it feels like the last 2 clauses are paired up, while the first one is on the side alone
>He said it. They said it. And everyone else said it
This is just getting try-hard.
Note that I don't want to get rid of the "and." I want to use the words as they are, but I'm unsure about the punctuation.
Please help
>>9396187
Cue debate about Oxford commas
Semicolon is just a more accentuated comma, if one of these said-its requires greater emphasis (for example, if 'he' is some authority figure who sets the tone, which would make the third option the best), use it. The second sentence is prescriptively ungrammatical, especially if you're one of these autists who screech about oxford comma.
>>9396193
The first three are correct, the fourth is not. I would recommend against the second for style reasons, if you are unwilling to drop the "and".
Opinion of George Saunders?
>>9396059
I liked his article on Drumpf.
>>9396063
OP here. F Drumpf. Seriously. Just...ugh.
>>9396059
I really enjoyed Lincoln in the Bardo. Third act goes a bit wayward, though.
Is this your brain after 50 years of academic philosophy? Do you aspire to be as intelligent?
>No-one can accept that Turkey's referendum licenses an Erdogan dictatorship.
Evidently the Turks thought so, but why go the trouble of asking them?
>>9396034
gulenist
>>9396034
that's just p u r e i d e o l o g y
is to trigger a sort of hyper-conscious state in the reader by immediately following a concept or object with many associations, via nested parentheses maybe?
For example: existence (cannot know or go outside this body-prison (no such thing as the collective consciousness (the skin and the body outwardly desire to meld with the surrounding atmosphere, like a plant innately striving upwards and outwards)))
>>9395989
Basically my main problem with most types of prose is that it is too reliant on cause and effect, instead of imprinting in the individual reader a certain sense of the state of the overarching whole.
>>9396005
Read Flaubert.
>>9396030
thanks, in chronological order or any particular recommendation?
How do I apply for a MacArthur Genius grant
>>9395871
Change your last name to MacArthur, the commission loves that
You don't. Other people nominate you.
>>9395919
How do I get nominated? If hack millennial poets can get nominated I can
What comedic/surreal/mind fuck book do you recommend, trying take my mind off of things for a while
The Crying of Lot 49 is honestly very good escapism
>>9395845
The bible cuz it's a mindfuck that people actually believe in god lmao
Technically it's a play but it sounds like you might like Waiting For Godot.
Life is so short, so what is the point of trying to build something when by the time you have, you are already close to dying?
Books for these feels?
>>9395839
I'd rather "build something" than sit around and do jack shit. Do that long enough you'll go crazy
>>9395839
I'm just going to ignore the fake question OP, and address your real question. Yes, I know that what's really on your mind is that you feel a great sense of despair upon realizing that you will never know how that qt girl in pic related feels with your arms around her.
Well, I know just the book for you OP. It's called Lolita.
How can so many people ignore Camus while having these existential crisis?
Sysyphus myth, OP. Enjoy your new life.
>tfw your 1000+ page encyclopedic postmodern novel will be remembered as the best novel of this century and will be ranked up with gravity's rainbow, infinite jest, and ulysses in terms of sheer cerebral craft
>>9395832
sorry, I don't read fiction
>wanting praise, and success for imposing your metaphorical phallus on the literary world
really great literature right there
>>9395832
Huh? Did Sun Kill Moon guy write a book?
Hello /lit/. I am an American that hasn't read anything other than internet articles and shitposts in years and I want to start my own library. What would you consider the top 5-10 essentials to get me started?
I'm mainly looking for books that are the cream of the crop I guess and fairly easy/cheap to get.
Thanks.
Here you go: http://www.modernlibrary.com/top-100/100-best-novels/
Ignore the Reader's list, it's been compromised. Also don't start with Ulysses until you've read a good chunk of the other books.
But desu you didn't define what kind of books you were looking for, since you didn't specify fiction or non fiction, or poetry or prose, etc etc.
>>9395786
Thanks man. Well I don't mind the type since I expect that I'll like and hate some in every category. My goal was basically to get some books that would get the ball rolling for me.
>>9395791
ok most of those are fine to start with but do not read ulysses or finnegans wake.
>>9395735
a short story. make sure you use an ethnically diverse pseudonym so you get published.
>>9395735
a really bad one
If you were going to write a book you would have already done it. Get out of here and go read more.
Recent Purchases Thread
Post books you've bought or acquired recently. Comment on other anons' choices. Discuss what to get next.
I got these today. How'd I do?
>>9395669
>How'd I do?
I don't know. Can you make your camera put his glasses on and have him try again?
>>9395669
>Dostoevsky
>Heller
You did good but why do you seek the validation of anonymous users?
>>9395684
Because OP has succumbed to the pretentious ego trap that is /lit/
Why do so many book communities encourage gluttony? I'm not talking about stuffing one's face with food, I'm talking about buying book after book after book even though one has no desire to read them or use them for anything else other than having a pretty cover.
You see a lot of people do "unhaul" videos on YouTube where they basically get rid of books they compulsively bought and never even read. It's never "I didn't like this book so I don't want it anymore" it's always "I never got around to reading it"
Is this normal? Should it be encouraged in the name of having full shelves? Why do people do it? Do they think they'll look smart by hauling books or do they have a shopping addiction?
>>9395666
mental illness
>>9395666
Shopping addiction. They're attracted to the gratification of buying new things and the aesthetics of the books. Buying a pile of books takes no effort, unlike reading them. This is why I couldn't care less about nice covers, it's what's inside the book that counts.
>>9395666
Commodity fetishism.
Gay scientist AMA
How to activate my will to power?
>>9395522
Read Foucault
Dismal Scientist AMA
Is Twain's adult stuff worth reading? I'm really not a fan of Huckleberry and Sawyer, even when I was a child.
>>9395456
my father liked him and my father was a smart man, so: yes.
>>9395456
"Roughing It" is a good one.
>>9395456
I like a lot of Twain's stuff, but I actually think his most serious book was his best.
Joan d'Arc, written near the end of his life after 10 years of research. It was after his wife died,
(possibly his daughter too?) and he wrote with a certain solemnity that his earlier works lack.
Are any of the books in the following list nonessential? Are the lists missing something you think is essential? Thoughts?
Machiavelli, The Prince (Hackett) OR
Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics(Oxford,
Aristotle, Politics(Hackett) trns. Ross/Brown)
Hobbes, Leviathan (Oxford)
Critique of Pure Reason, Emmanuel Kant
Woolf, To the Lighthouse (Harcourt Brace Jovanovich)
Morrison, Song of Solomon (Vintage)
New Oxford Annotated Bible with Apocrypha(Oxford)
Augustine, City of God (Penguin)
The Qur'an, Abdel Haleem ed. (Oxford)
Machiavelli, The Discourses(Penguin)
Hillerbrand, The Protestant Reformation(Harper & Row)
Locke, Political Writings, Wootton, ed. (Hackett)
Rousseau, The Basic Political Writings(Hackett)
Smith, Wealth of Nations (Modern Library)
Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals
(Cambridge)
Burke, Reflections on the Revolution in France
(Oxford)
Wollstonecraft, A Vindication of the Rights of
Woman (Oxford)
Tocqueville, Democracy in America (Penguin)
Mill, On Liberty, Utilitarianism, and Other Essays
(Oxford)
Marx-Engels Reader(Norton)
Darwin, Norton Critical Edition (Norton)
Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morals / Ecce
Homo (Vintage)
Du Bois, The Souls of Black Folk (Norton)
Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth (Grove)
Foucault, Discipline and Punish (Vintage)
The Radical Tradition, R. H. Tawney
The Uncommitted, Kenneth Keniston
Towards a Visual Culture, Caleb Gattegno
The Two Cultures, C. P. Snow
The Unprepared Society, Donald N. Michael
Machine Politics in Transition, Thomas M. Guterbock
Methods fo Experimental Social Innovation, George W. Fairweather
The Hidden DImension, Edward T. Hall
The Compulsion to Confess, Theodor Reik
The Idea of Nature, R. G. Collingwood
Games People Play, Eric Berne
Self and Others, R. D. Laing
Problems of Historical Psychology, Zevedei Bardu
Knowledge and Wonder, Victor F. Wosskopf
The Revolt of the Masses, José Ortega y Gasset
Modern Science and the Nature of Life, William S. Beck
Capital, Karl Marx.
Race, Jacques Berzun
Small Groups and Political Behavior, Sidney Verba
The Road to Serfdom, Friedrich A. Hayek
Decisions and Your Future, Kendig Brubarker Cully
The Division of Labour in Society, Émile Durkheim
The Temper of Our TIme, Eric Hoffer
The Hero, Lord Raglan
Man, Machines, and Modern Times, Elting E. Morison
The Image, Baniel J. Boorstin
Essays in Pragmatism, William James
The Lonely Crowd, David Riesman
Consciousness Unfolding, Joel S. Goldsmith
Essays in Experimental Logic, John Dewey
The Structure of Organizations, Eric Berne
Language Cahnge and Linguistic Reconstrucion, Henry M. Hoenigswald
Freedom Today, Hans Küng
>tl;dr
List books that are essential to College core education (e.g. what they had you read in History, Science, etc.) Thanks in advance /lit/.