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My father doesn't read, but I want him to. Is this a decent list of recommendations for him?

Julius Caesar
Wuthering Heights
Euthyphro

I realize that these works are not unified by any particular theme, and that you may not consider them the best of the best; but I am trying ease my father into an interest in learning and reading.

I live in a small town, and nobody here reads. It would be great if I could get him to read.
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>>9569478
We know nothing about your father so just give him something he'd complete before anything else
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>>9569478
Wuthering Heights is a pretty great book senpai. Definitely one of my favorites. Heathcliff and Cathy are easily two of the greatest chatacters in literature.
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You sound like pretentious condescending fuck.

3/10 would not want to have as son.

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You only have enough time to read around 7000 books in your lifetime.

Choose wisely
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>>9569132
So if I don't read any books that means I live forever, right?
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>>9569132
Pointless to chose wisely. All you can do is read whatever you fancy then advice the next generation on what book you read that are worth preserving. It's better to read 7000 shit books that no-one has ever read, than it is to read 7000 good books that everyone has read.
Knowledge can only be carried down through the generations, it does not follow you in death.
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Beware anons. This is an example of what happens to your mind when you decide to only consume trash.

Tell me your bad writing habits.

>somewhat
>quite
>rather
>altogether
>decidedly
>fairly
>considerably

I am addicted to these awful words, I can't help myself.
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I used to write "however," a lot
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>>9568700
I over use commas,
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>like
>kinda
>pretty much
>ain't
>y'all
>dude/man/bro
>double/triple negatives
>can't go a sentence without cursing
I've been writing in first person for so long, my narrator's habits are my habits. It's really hard not to have all of my characters sound like total hicks at this point.
Apart from that, my worst habit in regards to writing is that I put the pen down after every ten words or so and watch five minutes of a movie, get a snack, reorganize stuff on my desk, etc. I can't focus on anything for more than a few minutes and that really comes out when I write.

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Hello /lit/. Ive noticed on this board there is a thread about life situations, in which many (as far as I could subjectively ascertain) feel uncertain or lacking in their lives, or unhappy at the most. In this post, I will attempt to examine what a happy life is, and what makes it so. Please, join me if you will. Let us discuss what truly constitutes happiness.

First I should start by saying that it is the wish of all men to live happily, but, when it comes to seeing clearly what it is that makes life happy, they grope for the light; indeed, a measure of the difficulty of achieving a happy life is that the greater a man's energy in striving for it, the further he goes away from it if he has taken a wrong turning on the road; once this starts leading him in the opposite direction, his own swiftness separates him increasingly from his goal.
So let us determine both the goal and the road we will take, and let us have, besides, an experienced guide who has examined the territory we are entering, since this journey will have different conditions than those of most travel.
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>>9568686

Usually on such journeys one would defer to recognized roads and ideas put forth by local people, but let us remember that the most well-trodden and frequented paths prove the most deceptive. Accordingly, the most important point to stress is that we should not, like sheep, follow the herd of creatures in front of us, making our way where others go, not where we ought to go. And yet there is nothing that brings greater trouble on us than the fact that we conform to rumor, thinking that what has won widespread approval is best, and that, as we have so many to follow as good, we live by the principle, not of reason, but of imitation. What follows from this is that we become piled high, us men, rushing to our ruin. Just as it happens that in a great crowd that is crushed together, when the people jostle against each other, no one falls without dragging someone else down with him, and the ones in front bring destruction on the ones behind, and you may see this happening throughout all of life.
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>>9568706

And so I say that so long as each one of us prefers to trust someone else's judgement in our lives rather than relying on his own, we never exercise judgement in our lives but constantly resort to trust, and a mistake that has been passed down from one hand to another takes us over and leads us to ruin. It is this poor example of others that destroys us: we will regain our health, if only we distance ourselves from the crowd.
Yet still it is as things are, these people, defending their own wickedness, set themselves up against reason. And so the same thing happens at election meetings, when the very people who chose the senators wonder that those people were chosen, once the shifting breeze of public favor has changed direction: we show approval for something one moment, then criticize it in the next; every decision following the majority's wishes ends this way.
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>>9568734

So when we discuss this happy life, there is no reason for you to give me the well-known reply familiar with vote-counting: 'This side seems to be in the majority.' For that is why it is the worse side. Human concerns are not so happily arranged that the majority favors the better things: evidence of the worst choice is the crowd. So let us ask what is best, not what is the most customary, thing to do, and what establishes our claim to unending happiness, not what he rabble has set its stamp of approval on. And when I say rabble, I mean grand and wealthy people just as much as ordinary folk; for I have no regard for the air of status that surrounds people.
In judging someone I do not trust my eyes, I have a better and more reliable light by which to distinguish truth from falsehood: let the soul's goodness be discovered by the soul.

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ALL RIGHT ENOUGH WITH THE BULLSHIT
give me an ideology / religion / point of view / philosophy / way of looking at life that DOESN'T need me to have one eye closed and disregard parts of reality that doesn't fit into it's narrative. i'm looking for something complete and reliable at all levels. thanks
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>>9568444

Zoroastrianism
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spooky
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stirner+husserl

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why does every "literature man" have to pose/have a persona of some brooding post-pubertal, french noir, quasi nihilist fag + a lot of knit clothing and ciggarette?
Why dont they act normal but instead are full blown narcissist on level of Catcher in the rye the characters?

also, is that a postmodern phenomennon? Only similar phenomennon I can remember was with Byron and romantics althought Christian romantics like Blake had a different vibe (and christian existentialist like Kierkegaard and Dostoyevski also lacked nihilistic narcissism).

why do you love the nihilistic abbys so much lit? Why dont you humble yourself and pray so God can open your eyes so you can belive in the Gosple of Jesus Christ and live a life affirming humbe lifestyle?
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>>9568343
>brooding post-pubertal, french noir, quasi nihilist fag + a lot of knit clothing and ciggarette

pic rel, but insert camus/generic literatureTM person
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It's just an illusion because of the clothes of the time and especially because the pictures were black and white
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>>9568343
you're only looking at the shit ones, my man

"Ambitious people understand, then, that a migratory way of life is the price of getting ahead. It is a price they gladly pay, since they associate the idea of home with intrusive relatives and neighbors, small-minded gossip, and hidebound conventions. The new elites are in revolt against “Middle America,” as they imagine it: a nation technologically backward, politically reactionary, repressive in its sexual morality, middlebrow in its taste, smug and complacement, dull and dowdy. Those who covet membership in the new aristocracy of brains tend to congregate on the coasts, turning their back on the heartland and cultivating ties with the international market in fast-moving money, glamour, fashion, and popular culture. It is a question whether they think of themselves as Americas at all. Patriotism, certainly, does not rank very high in their hierarchy of virtues. “Multiculturalism,” on the other hand, suits them to perfection, conjuring up the agreeable image of a global bazaar in which exotic cuisines, exotic styles of dress, exotic music, exotic tribal customs can be savored indiscriminately, with no questions asked and no commitments required. The new elites are at home only in transit, en route to a high-lelvel conference, to the grand opening of a new franchise, to an international film festival, or to an undiscovered resort. Theirs is essentially a tourist’s view of the world – not a perspective likely to encourage a passionate devotion to democracy."

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Perché non l'hai ancora letto, anon?
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>letto
letta
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>>9567990
Perche io non parlo italiano
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Pourquoi tu ne l'as pas encore lu

Wow I don't speak Italian and I understood it in French.

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Editor’s Note: this piece of work is a complete and total fiction. Nothing in this work has factual, metaphorical, juxtapositional, satirical, or inter-dimensional connection to the physical world. Furthermore, every character or institution in this work is categorically separate from reality and has no factual or relational basis to anything at all.

I

The year was 2865 and Manly Richards was feeling good. He was 18 years old and newly graduated from Fatlips Cockblower School. Fat Cock was the most prestigious school in the nation and perhaps the world. Graduates were widely called Good Old Cocks, and current students affectionately called each other Little Weenies. In addition to graduation, Manly turned 18 during an odd-numbered year so he wasn’t drafted to fight in the wars. Sure he paid lip service to the troops, but he was a coward and suspected he would last five minutes tops in a training camp. Things were going well for him, and he knew it.

There was one problem though: he liked consensual sex for the purpose of procreation. In the Empire, that was a major offense. In fact, if a thought police heard the mention of a consy in a community, the entire area would be quarantined within a 50 mile radius. Even the word “consensual” was banned because it implied that humans had freedom of choice. The teepees didn’t fuck around when it came to the issue of suspected consies.

Manly knew that his whistle was clean, though. He was the official Gay on Gay Alliance (GGA) ambassador for Fat Cock and received every award available at the school in Traditional Gay Sex classes. In fact, not only had he aced the classes with flying colors, his works were considered official canon by major scholars in the field already. At the end of the summer, he would be going to New Boston, Mississippi to study under the leading scholar of homosex studies in the world: Fanny Nutsack. A Lesbian Studies expert, Nutsack led the Trad Gay movement before it was officially state-sanctioned and convinced the donors at her college to establish the first Traditional Gay Sex Studies department in the nation, the Sappho School of Historical Queerness. Manly would study under the best and brightest minds, and he knew it. The sneaking suspicion that someone would call his bluff terrified him though.

No matter. This summer would be fun. Some of his buddies were in town and they were sure to have a grand old time. Even though gay sex made him feel sick, he had to admit that no one knows how to handle a cock and balls like a dude. One friend in particular, John Nosack, really knew how to work a phallus. Having years of experience since infancy, John could suck a mean cock. Milo II legalized pedophilia in 2763 under the Nambla Decrees, and young guys like John were now mastering the art of fellatio. He also had an advantage because he lived by one principle alone: it’s not who you know, it’s who you blow.
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Plus, [child swimsuits] had recently released a hit new sim that was popular among people everywhere: Dick and Shorty. Depicting an elderly, alcoholic pedophile and a nerd that children and the feeble minded alike could point and laugh at, the show received great ratings. Anyone with a full-body VR suit could act out the role of Dick’s verbal abuse on both the giving and receiving end. Manly especially enjoyed the romantic elements where Dick would briefly glance at Shorty and vice versa in loving ways.

It was 6:35 pm exactly when Manly turned on his Reality Simuset to perform the newest episode of Dick and Shorty. At 6:37, he received a text that caught his attention.

II

“Get your twink ass over here ;)” from an unknown number. Manly was skeptical of the source, but the phrasing sounded familiar.

“Who’s this cuteboy?? (kiss emoji)”

“You know me and my tight little ass very well”

“Ooooohhhh, naughty naughty ;)”

“You wanna come over to my place?”

“Who is this again?”

“It’s Hairy. I mean Harry… silly me”

“Oooooo, let’s re-enact homecoming again you dirt dobbler”

“Sounds good to me. Meet me at Xanadu at 10. And bring those nice little chaps I bought you”

“Sure thing sugar balls. See you then ;)”

Manly took his Simuset helmet off and chucked it across the room. Fake water and fish flooded his apartment as his Virtuquarium simulated a real break in its hardware. Damn they’re meticulous with those things, Manly thought. His mind quickly darted to a more pressing matter: Xanadu.

God he hated that place. His secret nickname for it was Ass Blast Central. All people do there is fuck each other against their will. He secretly loathed it. As a TGS scholar though, the history of the place peaked his curiosity.

Xanadu was founded in 2054 as the first urban country club where members could buttfuck their friends and clients without their wives knowing about it. As the institution of marriage slowly faded away, however, it turned into more of an elite nightclub for rich men and their young butt sluts. Now it exclusively serves the well to do, young and old.

None of it really mattered to Manly though. He just wanted to stay at home and simulate true love. Fuck it, he muttered, I’ll go. He had a reputation to uphold.
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III

At 9:50, Manly stepped out of his apartment building and hailed a cab. As soon as he sat down in the back seat, he yelled “to the gayest place on Earth, and step on it.” The cab driver slowly turned around to reveal a white bandana over his face and released a moan. In a perverse re-enactment of the Kennedy assassination, the driver’s head exploded. Chunks of brain and coagulated blood hit Manly’s face and landed in his mouth. Before he knew what happened, a large black dildo connected with his head and rendered him unconscious.

IV

Manly’s eyelids fluttered. He couldn’t move anything but his head and neck. A flood light blinded him.

“Where the fu-”

A pink blur slapped him across the face. He knew those ridges from somewhere.

“Hcchou will speek when speeken to, darlen!” yelled a familiar voice with a vaguely exotic accent.

Oh shit, Manly thought. It’s Genghis.

Genghis Muhammad was one of Manly’s former classmates at Fat Cock. A Bengali prince of considerable wealth, Genghis had made a name for himself at FC for spending considerable sums on his white lovers. Manly remembered that he even bought his friend Matt a lambo in exchange for a handjob. Although Genghis had won friends with money, one thing had irked him throughout his career at Fat Cock: Manly had refused to rape him. Genghis begged and pleaded with Manly to rape him, sometimes hitting Manly with a ridged, silicone buttplug in the shape of the prophet Mohammed’s head. The efforts were fruitless though.

Genghis repulsed Manly. He had weird bumps on his butt that made Manly think he had anal herpes. More importantly, Genghis had an obscene face. All the kids at Fat Cock joked that his brood father had tried to put him back into the vat when he was an infant at the Palestinian clone lab. Regardless of the circumstances, the man was horrifying.

“Now darlen you have no choice but to plug my brown hole!” Genghis said as he raised his androgyburka over his exposed anus and pointed it toward his predator and prey. Manly accepted his fate as Genghis awkwardly waddled toward him. All of the sudden, the light flickered off, leaving the two near lovers in dark silence. Awestruck, Manly would both praise and regret the next couple of minutes for years to come.
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V

“In the name of Allah!” the thick accent pierced the silence.

Manly heard a physical struggle and what he believed was the sound of handcuffs snapping shut.

The lights turned on suddenly. It took Manly a moment to adjust his eyes to his surroundings.

Two white and black blurs slowly turned into men dressed in black tuxedos bedazzled with glitter. Clones of the WASP-145 variety, the men immediately struck Manly as thought police.

“What happened here?” one of the agents asked.

“He tried to rape me.” Manly said.

“Did he injure you beyond normal sexual protocols?” Agent 1 asked.

“No.” Manly said.

“What flashed through your mind as he tried to pounce on you?” Agent 2 interjected.

“I thought that he could’ve just asked me for it.”

Manly knew he was dead meat before the agents blew tranq powder up his nose.

Fuck me, Manly thought as he drifted into unconsciousness.

VI

A wave of cold woke Manly from his sleep. He was dripping wet and strapped to a chair.

Manly quickly made notes of his surroundings. Big solid metal door, cast iron table, meat-hooks on the walls, rainbow colored dildo.

Manly knew exactly where he was. The teepees brought him to the Manhattan Edugaytion Center for Concentrated Analplay. MECCA for short, the institution was notorious for converting consies into bonafide rapists. In the consy newsletters that Manly had read in seedy clubs, many stories talk about their friends who went to MECCA. They never came back with anything but rape on their minds.

The door slammed open. An old man dressed in a white lab coat carried rubber gloves in one hand and a three-foot long silicone arm and fist in the other hand.

“Hello Mr. Richards. You can probably guess where you are.”

Manly averted his gaze and stared at the floor.

“No matter. We can either do this the hard way or the harder way. In either scenario, you’re going to be mercilessly fucked until you love rape of your own accord.”

For the first time in his life, Manly stood up for himself.

“I will never love rape! Give me romance or give me death!”

What is yall's favorite book of the bible?
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>>9567591
Job is far ahead of anything else
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John
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Ecclesiastes

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Why are women looked down upon by agents while white men are praised? Should I just take a male penname for querying and if I make it, use my real one?
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>>9567575
I think in sci-fi going trans might be a smart business move.
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>>9567575
Lazy bait bro
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When your writing is so shit you don't ever get an email back acknowledging your submission. Despite being a brown 3rd worlder.

Where is this unfair advantage I am supposed to have when dealing with large western publishers?

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>mfw you realize that reading the translation of Odissey and the Iliad instead of the original is like kissing the cheek of a girl and thinking you have had the best sex of your life
It literally makes no sense whatsoever to read it translated, the poetry and the wording sounds and word craftsmanship go to waste, making it half of how epic it was supposed to sound, there is a reason he repeats the words all the time and use a lot of synonyms for the same word
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0mkt6Z3I0
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>>9567289
>there is a reason he repeats the words all the time and use a lot of synonyms for the same word
Yes, because the Iliad and Odyssey weren't actually memorized word for word, it was recited differently each time using a standard plot structure where certain set phrases and sections were used to allow the bard time to think, and epithets and other concepts were used so that the bard reciting the poem had things to plug in that were the right fit for the metre of the current line of verse.

If anything, The Iliad and The Odyssey are prime candidates of poetry for translation in to other languages. They existed for a long time in oral tradition in many different forms that closely resembled each other before being written down, translations essentially just bring back the variance, and probably to a lesser degree when comparing reasonably high quality translations.
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>>9567289

To be honest this is just what I needed, thank you for posting this.
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You know the original text of the Homeric works is compared to Plato's original text like comparing a book for toddlers with the collected works of Shakespeare.

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Where do I start with logic?
>the Greeks
Is there a chart or something?
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Start with the Greeks
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>>9566993
where does one start with the greeks when starting with the greeks

who is the greekest of these greeks

who among them is the greekiest
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How to prove it by Daniel Velleman

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Why are all the men in Herman Hesse's books so sensitive? Seems a bit unrealistic.
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I didn't find them to be unrealistic. They seems like normal guys.
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>>9566836
Hesse was gay. Wait, that was Mann.
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people with deep hearts and wide sensibilities are often a bit touchy

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>Can't debate without wanting to cry.
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>>9566757
best stick to written debate.
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>can't debate without spergin out
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>>9566757
Play it off as you being really passionate

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>2017
>Não sabe ler na língua do Pessoa

You should try it /lit/. É uma delícia.
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Oh but I know plenty of portuguese anon like for example
ayyy AYYY GOSTOSO AYYY
or
AYYY DELISIA AYYY AYY
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>wanting to read in the language of filthy monkeys like Machado de Assis and Lima Barreto
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>yfw these people will never read Romance d'A Pedra do Reino

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