>mfw you realize that reading the translation of Odissey

>>9567289
>there is a reason he repeats the words all the time and use a lot of synonyms for the same word
Yes, because the Iliad and Odyssey weren't actually memorized word for word, it was recited differently each time using a standard plot structure where certain set phrases and sections were used to allow the bard time to think, and epithets and other concepts were used so that the bard reciting the poem had things to plug in that were the right fit for the metre of the current line of verse.

If anything, The Iliad and The Odyssey are prime candidates of poetry for translation in to other languages. They existed for a long time in oral tradition in many different forms that closely resembled each other before being written down, translations essentially just bring back the variance, and probably to a lesser degree when comparing reasonably high quality translations.

>>9567289

To be honest this is just what I needed, thank you for posting this.

You know the original text of the Homeric works is compared to Plato's original text like comparing a book for toddlers with the collected works of Shakespeare.

>>9567353
Here is your (You) enjoy

>>9567289
Sometimes a kiss, be it even on the cheek, may bring more happiness than "great sex" ever could.

>>9567377
t. virgin
If it was a hug maybe I would agree with you post

Reminder that translations are not inherently worse than the original, and can be better than the original.

>Implying Homer actually wrote the poem and it wasn't a story that was told for centuries before being written down and modified.

Its the story that is influential and important, not the translation.

>>9567307
I agree with this reasoning. And it's why I hate the common criticism of popes translation as "excellent, but not homer" because poem isn't even homers to begin with.

I do think it's a shame dactylic hexameter doesn't really work in English though. Lattimore did his damn best to.make it work though

>>9567353
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>>9567307
this! op is retarded

>>9568196
>>9567401
>>9567307
>Let's ignore the whole point of the poem and create a reasoning for it to be superior simply because I am too lazy to learn it in its original language

>>9567392
People don't realize how often true for poetry this is.

>>9568201
>Let's ignore arguments and call people lazy intead

>>9568216
Literally what argument? That Homer didn't make the poems? If anything it doesn't matter if he did or not but the influence the poem had in western literature, and if anything this original poem in its original language was what people read until Translations came. Its sounds, form and rhythmic are literally lost in every translation, reading a translation is reading half of what the Iliad is supposed to be

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>>9568226
>reading Odyssey/Illiad
And you critisize others?

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>>9568233
>he didn't even read the Iliad/Odissey
How does it feel being an uncultured pleb?

>>9568241
How does it feel to be a braintumored frogposter? You're not supposed to read it, you're supposed to listen to it you damn mongloid

>>9568226
You're on "mount stupid" right now. It's ok, you'll learn through time, just don't act like you're the smartest guy ever.

>>9567289
Oh wow omg a recitation with prepared piano, that's so true to the original. And he repeated lines and phrases for a reason? You don't say! It's not like this is taught in high schools in some countries...
Do you even know Greek?

>>9568266
>he brings on the superiority/inferiority argument
I didn't even read the iliad in its original language, I am just saying that reading it in its translation is reading half of it. You are really insecure my friend

>It literally makes no sense whatsoever to read it translated,

Unless you want to better understand ancient Greek culture and ideas as well as the stories, poems and ideas produced by that culture and cultures influenced by it.Also the plot

It seems a tad myopic to only value it for its poetry

>>9567289
Your face is a book cover?

>>9568245
but you can read it to other people

>>9568362
No, you'd have to recite it from memory

>>9568371
ok

>>9568245
>implying that by reading you can listen the sounds in your head you are reading it
are you tone deaf?

>>9568388
that's completely besides the point

The video is nice, but I can't help but think a true rhapsode would deliver the lines with more energy.

Are there any modern day rhapsodes? I would love to hear the entire thing, if possible.

>>9568429
no it isn't, how do you think Beethoven composed when he was deaf?