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what are your thoughts on my book shelf, anons
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Its dumbfounding, really. The whole irony of the situation, that is. I mean, these people are here devoting time to this endeavor of taking pictures of their bookshelves with carefully assorted books; who knows, maybe they want you to know who the author they like best is, or maybe they have OCD, or whatever, but they arrange the books so neatly. Then they take a picture and upload it, but they do ABSOLUTELY no discussion of literature. Its like these people are pretending to care about books to show off their bookshelves while their taste is saying "I don't really read books". So why do they take pictures of the shit? Its irony at its hyperbole.
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>>9570051
This is a better description of the situation than you even know lol
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>>9570085
lol

I'm not talking about rewarding. Pic related
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Harold bloom's best poems of the English language
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>>9569907
The once and future king or J R
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>>9569907
Took me a long time to bring myself to finish this. There were stories so fantastic I was thinking about them for months afterwards but it was such strenuous read.

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ITT: great writers present their material to a creative writing class and we're the other students critiquing him

>"Kafka, don't you think we need some sort of explanation why Gregor turned into a bug? It just isn't believable that he'd turn into one for no reason. Also, that ending is just too depressing. Can't his family learn to tolerate his change and eventually love him or something?"
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>"Kafka, you turned in another unfinished, basically non-sensical story. What is this about? It was funny at the beginning, but now it's just getting old. What the hell was that endless dialogue about Barnabas and his family? And why didn't K. just go to the damn castle?
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>>9565341
and what is the point of the innkeeeper showing K her dresses at the end? qre you trying to say that hell never get to the castle and he is now just another villager? and why does everyone talk like a lawyer its very unbelievable.
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>"Hey Dave, I really liked this story after you recommended to the class that we should read nothing but Derrida and DeLillo before reading your short (223 page) story because there was just no chance of us understanding the work otherwise. I really think what you did here was really tough and important for the rest of the class, to try and help us break out of our lol "dogmatic slumber" (he nudges the beret sitting next to him). But yea I really liked the part with the depressing paradox in the movie theater. It reminded me of Wittgenstein and Borges. I also liked how you made the female character, I think her name was Taylor (extra points for androgyny (lol get my irony Dave that I'm subtly communicating)), into a drug addict. It's like you're not afraid to like combine the cerebral with the passionate. Dirty Realism. Minimalism. And so of course bandanna man, dictionary please? Thesaurus, usage dictionary, human oneness, monads."

Just finished studying pic related and On certainty. Where do I go next if I want to better understand contemporary philosophy (especially philosophy of language and mind)?
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>>9578573
contemporary philosophy is characterized by the perpetration of the mistakes Witty warns against
read Quine for an alternative methodology, I guess
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>>9578578

This. Wittgenstein himself (apparently) thought he zeroed in on the whole of philosophy after the Tractatus, and it seemed to be the same for when he wrote PI. And everyone else went completely the other way around regarding the use and limits of language; if you want to concern yourself with more than what language can do (regardless if you agree or not if it should even be done), just go for Deleuze or something.
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if you want good overviews of contemporary work, get Philosophy of Mind by Jaegwon Kim and The Philosophy of Language by Martinich

if you want primary sources, it's mostly articles and not books that are important after Wittgenstein, but some important figures, in roughly chronological order, are: Carnap, Tarski, Quine, Anscombe, Ryle, Austin, Geach, Grice, Davidson, Kripke, D. Lewis, Stalnaker, Chalmers

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where to start with this guy?
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I'd start either with Yes, Wittgenstein's Nephew, or The Loser.
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>>9578100
the greeks and/or my diary desu
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>>9578100
The first page.

Loser, Correction or Old Masters.

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Do people only shill this hack because he's a communist? I know /lit/ is full of butthurt nu-male lefties who are still mad about /pol/ being a better board, but surely you could shill someone like Chomsky instead?

If you want someone who isn't an ideologue who denies the suffering of tens of millions under communist tyranny, listen to Jordan Peterson.
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I thought zizek was more of a neo humanist.
He is well read in psychoanalysis and uses his experiences living under communism and capitalism to really say that any ideology is really a big fucking joke ment to subjugate the population.

He seems more of a reaction to the "postive" psychology movement than anything.
But t high ats probably my own ideological bias to see everything in psychological terms.
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>>9577456
Holy shit how is peterson even lit?
Isnt he just some shitposter that graduated to being a youtube faggot.
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>>9577456
Regardless of his politics Zizek is a charismatic, engaging SNIFF speaker. He's SNIFF hardly a hack. I don't have a problem with Peterson but the tone of your post is one reason he gets backlash here.

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So now that redditification of /lit/ is complete and the board is a full blown reddit colony, can we officially acknowledge this in the rules?
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/lit/ is fine as is

We don't need endless arguments about the board
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what is there to talk about tho? i guess one feels thread could be cool because some times you just want to talk about life with people who aren't total mongs even if it isn't directly /lit/ related
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Get rid of the constant /pol/ infestation and I'll be happy
This is a marxist Catholic board

Who are your favorite nihilist writers, /lit/?
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JK rolling
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>>9576419
>calling Nietzsche and Voltaire nihilists
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>favourite
>nihilist
They should all be shot, they shouldn't mind

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does anyone here actually know how to use a semicolon
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It separates related but distinct clauses within a single sentence. It's a more concrete separation than a comma, but a less concrete separation than a period.

Those are the basics. Beyond that, you just sort of have to feel it out. You'll get better with practice.
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>>9576220
explain that picture
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>>9576228
lol

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Post your favorite prayer and we rate each other on their patricianhood
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Dios te salve, María,
llena eres de gracia;
el Señor es contigo;
bendita Tú eres
entre todas las mujeres,
y bendito es el fruto
de tu vientre, Jesús.
Santa María, Madre de Dios,
ruega por nosotros, pecadores,
ahora y en la hora de nuestra muerte.
Amén.
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Padre nuestro, que estás en los Cielos, santificado sea tu nombre, venga tu Reino, hágase tu voluntad así en la tierra como en el cielo. y perdónanos nuestras deudas así como nosotros perdonamos a nuestros deudores, y no nos dejes caer en la tentación, mas líbranos del mal. Amén.
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>>9575947
rub-a-dub-dub
thanks for the grub

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So why isn't the unexamined life worth living?

Is it because people that think this are pretentious assholes? Yes, I believe so.
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>>9575774
Greeks BTFO by a guy who posts frogs and pisses in jars
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>>9575786
The Greeks were gay pedophiles anon, always remember this before placing them on an intellectual pedestal.
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>>9575795
Yeah, they were patrician

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Where exactly with the Greeks should I start?
Which books are the most useful foundation?
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what do you mean books?
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>>9575652
It's really not a hard question to understand sorry if my phrasing wasnt correct
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you should start by defining what exactly it is that you are starting

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Dialogue is so awkward in novels with all the "he said, she said" repeated throughout. This is the main reason why I'll never write a book. It's simply not a good medium for dialogue heavy prose. So what alternatives do I have? A screenplay that will never be made into a film? A poem? Nothing really works. I might have to make a comic.

What books handle character dialogue well? Maybe I can learn from them.
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you're a bad reader and writer
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>>9575320
Seconding this.
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>>9575325
same with gaddis and joyce

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>tfw published fiction and criticism
>tfw statistics grad student
>tfw /fit/
>tfw traditionalist Catholic
So this is it. I have ascended to the highest level of patricianhood. It all looks so different from this side...
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>>9575290
>t. virgin
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>>9575294
>tfw volcel
so this... this is patricianhood...
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Godspeed

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Thoughts on Raymond Carver?
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>>9575248
Proof that dumb people can be good writers
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DOCTAH CAVAHS EASY SHAVE BUTTAH
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>>9575264
Carver was blue collar but that doesn't make him dumb

You should have said Blake

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