Restructuring /vp/ #5 - The /vp/ Constitutional Convention

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I think everyone is in agreement on the following:
>remove e-celebs and youtuber bullshit
>remove furry porn, stealth furry porn, waifu/husbando porn, but make sure to not ban discussion about volatile pokemon and waifus/husbandos (no gardeporn but can talk about garde and have threads about garde) NOTE that this does not mean banning ecchi/non-lewd image dumps, only the obvious offenders (leave room for ambiguity)
>ban low quality leak and shitposting leak threads
>increased moderation size for increased moderation coverage, especially at hot button times, as moderation response can be slow
>enforce GOTTA CATCH EM ALL
>enforce existing rules for /vp/
>ban of pepeposters

Things we are mixed on:
>ID's (anonymity vs accountability)
>HG threads (fun vs appropriateness for the board?)
>what defines lewd and non-lewd images (ambiguity for helping moderation leave safe dumps alone)


Please note that this the following is just my personal opinion and not something that /vp/ agrees with such as the list above.

After last night, I think a lot of people brought up how /pol/ has acted with flags and ID's and I think that while there can be merit with holding threads to ID's, there is also great likelihood for the system being abused and misused as a means of censorship and dismissing posts based on the individual. Someone brought up flags and while something like this can be fun in theory, one only needs to look at /int/ to know how bad things can become. Case in point, pic related.

I did see a really interesting suggestion from last thread however, and I think it merits some discussion. A lot of people vehemently oppose ID's for valid reasons. Someone suggested that if a certain IP was reported enough in one thread (say a shitposter in /padt/), then that poster would get an ID in that thread only to help individuals identify that shitposter as someone who has been marked as a troublemaker.

I can't even believe this thread is a thing.

Only change necessary on the whole website is less regulation, more chaos.

You can pry my bara from my cold dead hands.

Pottery

What we need:
>Remove all mods and jannies and bring new ones
>No more fucking Verlisify threads, or threads about Joe. It’s plain shitposting at this point.
>Discussion about generations must be allowed, but these threads should be the most closely monitored. If they go on to shitposting territory, then delete them.
>No tailsposting
>No lizardfuckers
>No frogposting
>No "SPOILERS: NEW LEEKS XD" threads.
>No posting an image from a cartoon/anime, then quoting that post with the incorrect name of that cartoon/anime.
>No talking about GO outside the GO general.
>Anime general can only be made once a week; if they reach bump limit before the day they get their next thread, then good riddance.
>Allow Gardefag threads but make them weekly. Permaban anyone who tries to post Gardevoir outside their thread.
>No furfaggotry; ie. no sexually suggestive portrayals of Pokémon. If your Blaziken has tits then you won’t be able to post it.
>No Waifu-claiming threads.
>Keep Pokégirl/men threads; content must NOT be porn OR appeal to feet, armpit, pregnancy, inflationfags, etc. It’s pretty vanilla, but that’s what works for this BLUE board. Pokégirl thread != Waifu-claiming thread.

>inb4 angry Gardefags
Talking about Pokémon is allowed and should be encouraged, but ALL Poképorn qualifies as anthro porn and that belongs in >>>/trash/.
This means that if a Pokémon is the main subject of your sexually suggestive image, then you must NOT post it here, as it is a violation of Rule 3.
However, Pokégirls and Pokémen DON'T violate that rule, because they're human, so as long as it’s not porn it’s fine.
>Nevertheless: Wicke threads must receive a similar treatment as the Pokémon Anime thread as long as the hype over her continues. Mods will have to look closely on these too.

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>>28555034
>>28555037
Top jej

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>>28555037
>being this much of a soapbox redditor

All three of your "mixed things" are bullshit

HG are just spammy /b/-tier bullshit
IDs on a board that isn't /tg/ /pol/ or /soc/ is horsecrap
Lewds always

I miss anything?

Get ready for 300+ posts of the same 40 anons arguing, no one reaching a consensus, and nothing being done.

>>28555041
We have an opportunity to come together to hash out clarity on what we as a userbase want to improve our board. Much of what we have now can be improved with increased moderation. This thread and its predecessors have been meant to elaborate on what the userbase expects out of moderation and what we want to see happen with our board. Mootwo is listening, this is our chance to have a hand in our own future.

>>28555086
The mixed things are in summary of people being split on it and people being for it. It is important that we recognize all arguments with regards to the conversation otherwise we will be forever at a standstill and will never improve. We are all entitled to our opinions, but that doesn't mean that we can't hash this out as adults >implying this board isn't littered with underage

>>28555044
You can always post it on the appropriate boards anon.

This is officially going on too long, it's becoming a meme.

Just have the mods do their jobs by enforcing the rules and the board would be as fine as it could possibly be. It's a Pokemon board on 4chan. Don't forget where you are and set your standards too high.

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>>28555037
Based on the 4 threads we've had, and the last 2 in particular, I think the consensus is fairly clearly against IDs, for both the reasons you outlined and the simple fact that they are too easy to avoid.

Don't even mention flags, which adds quite literally nothing but shitposting and detracts from the topic at hand.

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And don't anyone reply to shitposters in this thread, they're no different than the shitposters in other general threads. This thread is about community consensus; posts that say we can't or won't reach consensus is 100% a shitpost not worthy of a reply.

>>28555128

This is the appropriate board. That's why I posted, friend.

>>28555018
STOP

POSTING

THIS

SHIT

HOLY SHIT

MODS CAN WE DELETE THIS?

GIVE ME ONE REASON WHY IT'S UP

>>28555128
4chan, although someone is gonna come call me edgy, oldfag, etc etc, is about chaos and absolute bare minimum moderation and rules. The rules were nothing more than a source of laughter from which memes were made back in the day.

I've seen this board change, and I have to say, some faggot coming along talking a big game like you would've been knocked down a peg immediately in the "old days". This is typical, par for course insulting, too, but, holy shit your whole post reeks of reddit

>>28555018
For /vp/ to change you can't just put all the work on the mods, the users also need to help in order for this to work.

Report threads and post that break the rules, mods are global and if they see a thread with +20 reports then they will act.
Educate about the use of sage.
Don't normalize shitposting.

Elitism is the only way /vp/ can be salvaged.

>>28555128
>WE have an opportunity to come together to hash out clarity on what WE as a userbase want to improve our board
nah, it's pretty much only things (You) want.

In all seriousness, it's not like there's a dearth of places to talk about Pokemon that aren't 4chan. If you're on /vp/, you want Pokemon AND 4chan, and that sort of implies a minimal amount of moderation.

>>28555201
Hiro has asked the boards to give actual feedback for moderation, faggot.

>>28555176
I feel inclined to believe that as well, but for the sake of not giving fodder to shitposters or for causing more argument, I left it there.

Let's use this >>28555166 and >>28555238
attempt at shitposting to discuss determining what we should identify as lewd and bannable and what is appropriate.

Personally, I see any post with X is (for) Y as a red flag for what is a post with negative intent. That being said, I think that these images should be bannable because it's clearly fetish imagery and it leaves no discussion possible. It solely exists for masturbation.

I think if you can have reasonable discussion related to an image dump, the key word there being reasonable discussion being possible, then I can see how a thread can be allowed to remain. But if a thread exists solely for image dumping pictures with the sole intent of providing masturbatory material, then you can make the argument that it should be bannable or prunable.

>>28555205
Sadly the world that you and I started posting on this board with is no longer here. You're entitled to your opinion but you detract from your argument, especially here, when you blame things on boogeyman plebbit. It's diminishing.

>>28555269
Part of the problem is inherently related to moderation being subpar or understaffed. Also >>28555315


>>28555282
I've read the threads and gathered that based on what there seems to be consensus with.

What I desire is far more draconian than just enforcing what current rules we have more and elaborating on ecelebs and shitty fake leakers.

>>28555305
If you want Pokemon AND 4chan, you're not looking for minimal moderation though. I dont think in all my years posting here that I've ever associated 4chan with minimal moderation. /vp/, sure. But never 4chan.

>>28555315
And it's obvious nothing can be agreed upon. End this charade already.

>>28555037
>ban of pepeposters
Look friend, I hate pepe as much as the next guy, but pepe itself is not the issue. It's the people themselves posting pepe that are cancer. Prohibiting the frog itself won't change that.

>>28555399
Brochacho, we literally agree on the same thing.
>ban pepeposters
>not ban pepe

Remove pol
Remove lolis
Tolerate no weird shit

>>28555366
Except there are some issues that have been agreed upon, you faggot. Or are you in favor of youtube celeb shilling?

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>>28555412
I'm nitpicking a bit since this list will be going to out of touch mods who don't really understand nuances like that. It's a fine line that could just be avoided by enforcing Global Rule 6. By making Pepe the poster child for shitposting, you also kill things like pic related that are perfectly valid.

All I'm saying is that singling a certain image out, especially one with so many variants, will cause issues. Anything involving Greninja or Politoed or anything that's touching its face will get derailed into "REMOVE FROGPOSTER"

Let's just word the suggestion better.

>>28555722
I think that that when people refer to pepeposting, they're referring to the people who use plain pepefrog. I'm not talking about /vp/ edits, because as much as those irk me, they're still /vp/ related and I can get over it. But I mean shit like >>28554775 and >>28554167 which were clearly created with the intent of shitposting.

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>>28555037
About the porn thing, are we sure we should crack down on it? Porn is one of the few things that actually keep the underage at bay.

Explicit porn should be deleted of course, but anything short of that serves as a citronella candle. We can always pic related if things get out of hand.

>>28555366
Haven't you heard? You follow the mob or YOU DIE.

>>28555819
The underage will always come. They came when we had no mods, and they simply dont care. If you honestly think that porn scares away underage posters, then clearly you forget how much you looked for porn when you were their age. I'd love to return to garybombing, but it's an image dump since no one makes any new gary edits anymore. Also, it's a bit outdated since the culture and garyposting has gone away. But I like where your head is at regarding us self-moderating. I dont like that garybombing gets peopled banned.

>>28555771
Yeah, those are 100% shitposts. But they'd still be shitposts if they had different pictures.

Pepe doesn't belong here, but neither does anything else that's not Pokemon. It's odd to single it out like this. If these things are going to be put into written rules, why involve Pepe? I've never seen a productive thread begin with a pic of, say, Sheldon Cooper, but that doesn't mean Sheldon should be a bannable offense.

Just say "No Shitposting" and call it a day. It's more descriptive and accurate anyway.

>>28555916
Of course. There will always be underage, and I definitely remember how often I looked for porn when I was that age, but I also remember having to be careful because of parents. All underage live at home by definition, so they have to be at least a little careful. It's better than nothing.

And on that note, we need to discuss Garybombing. That has to be preserved, it's basically our only weapon.

>>28555018
Wasn't there a time recently where somebody posted a GET thread and it didn't get deleted despite being against th rules because a janitor made it?

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>>28555037
I agree with this disgusting fat sack of crap.

What is everyone's opinion on these kinds of threads? >>28555822

>>28557332
Garbage-tier shitposting that should be banned.

>>28557332
It's not breaking any rules despite what reddit might say.

>>28557512
>the supremely autistic edition
This isn't something like, what's /vp/'s favorite mon that gets whittled down based on people taking part in it, or something like the /vp/ montages, which while garbage, are still creative and not against the rules.

This is literally claiming some person by hoping to get trips or dubs for the expressed purpose of stroking some epeen on an anonymous tibetan radio network.

It's garbage for the sake of being garbage. Not against the rules? It depends on how you want to interpret the dubs rule and what precedent you want to set.

>>28557565
It's Pokemon, people still gotta have fun. It's just lewd dumping mainly. As long as it's not specific characters or actual porn it's fine

>>28557565
>This is literally claiming some person by hoping to get trips or dubs
Waifu threads have nothing to do with gets.

>>28557751
Read the fucking first sentence of the thread.

>>28557908
second, god damnit

Remove anime discussion.

This board is called /vp/. The "v" is not shorthand for anime. There is a dedicated board for anime discussion that I'm sure would love to discuss the deep and intricate plot that is Pokemon.

>>28557983
While we're at it, let's move the game discussion to /v/.

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>>28555077
>But all pokeporn qualifies as anthro porn
>Pikachu
>Anthro

Also what do you mean no posting Gardevoir outside their thread? Are we allowed to talk about Gardevoir on how she performs in battle and with her lore?

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>>28557983
>/vp/-Pokemon
>Not allowed to talk about the POKEMON anime

>>28558326
>use a gardevoir reaction image
>get banned

>>28558326
You would be able to talk about Gardevoir in the Gardevoir thread. It would be a temporal measure to eliminate the most entitled Gardefags and keep the ones who really want to talk about it as a Pokémon and not as a sex symbol.

>>28558326
That's what people have talked about hoping to avoid. No one wants to ban legitimate discussion abotu the pokemon, using them in battle, them in the anime, their lore, etc....

Most people are just really fucking tired of the softcore porn and furryshit and just general decrease in quality surrounding gardevoir fags congregating and image dumps.


It's like black people. When black people are in a multiethnic group or not surrounded by other black people, they're alright and decent members of society. But put two of them together when they're on the same wavelength and they start acting like niggers sometimes.

That's how gardefags are. When you congregate, you bring shit with you.

Woah now, hold up.

I was here for the first thread. We're talking about making it a bannable offense to talk about pokemon now?

>>28558440
holy fuck that's true about black people

Same with some dogs

>>28558458
Seems so. They're going over board with the rules.

>>28558440
Oh and that would also apply to white people, hispanic people and asian people as well then? Why did you have to bring up race into this discussion?

>>28558458
When did anyone say that?

>>28558458
Oh fuck no. It's being taken out of line. See >>28555037
>but make sure to not ban discussion about volatile pokemon and waifus/husbandos (no gardeporn but can talk about garde and have threads about garde

>>28558458
>Make a Pokemon board
>It's illegal to talk about Pokemon on said board
Wtf I hate Moot now.

>>28558472
Like, pick one or the other, but quit the bullshit.

>>28558501
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>28558440
Nice shitpost, keep it on topic anon. Isolating one group just because you have a personal bais aginst them is as unfair as them doing the same to you. Gardevoir threads are fine, you want to talk about gardevoir move sets, you can do so as long as it is on topic for the thread you post it in.

>>28558536
>quit the bullshit
?

>>28558501
When white people get together they seem to accomplish quite a lot actuall

>>28558578
>quit the bullshit
Like stop being a two-faced son of a bitch

>>28558556
No one is even suggesting banning discussion about pokemon, that's retarded. People just want to ban porn dumps, and shitpost-y image dumps.

>>28558578
Put a bunch of white people together and they'll complain about social justice

>>28558632
That's literally black lives matter

>>28558644
>black people caring about blm
Only "woman" with dyed hair care about that.

TDLR we need good mods/janitors, yet no one wants to sacrifice their sanity for it. (Or are autistic enough)

>>28558693
I've applied. Heard nothing.

>>28558692
Have you like not seen any parade.

that's my fault for living near Chicago

>>28558722
In fairness, boystown parades dont count.

>>28558503
Fuck man, I just saw one or two posts while browsing first page.

>>28558505
That looks suspiciously similar to the copy pasta that's been in every thread on every board when Hiro does one of these. I thought I was reading a straight repost for a second.

Regardless, if it applied to all husbando/wifu/pokehusbando-wifu faggotry that'd be pretty great. Each gets their own containment thread, but just the one. No special threads for one person/mon.

That WOULD be ideal, but even typing that makes me think of all the things involved with that that would make it even more complicated. What happens when a determined poster tries to derail a thread? Legitimate discussions about a specific pokemon that should have nothing to do with fur shit could easily get slammed with two or three people who decide to get into a [mon/person] circle jerk.

In the end, we're really at the mercy of whatever the mod in question feels like doing in that particular instance, I guess, but still.

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Some opinions I've made.
>>28534437
>>28534534
>>28542393
>>28543826

In synthesis:
1. I think more moderation is not the option, but instead, rewriting and restructuring the rules, specially the "No anthro/furry allowed" is.
2. Encouraging people to open their threads with relevant keywords, and encourage people to use filters.
3. The Futaba software needs urgently a basic image pattern recognition software to block recurrent image shitposting.

You can find the reasons in the posts I quoted.

>>28558784
That's really weird because I mainly only use /vp/ anymore.

If a determined poster tries to derail a thread, then they get banned/deleted. Not that hard. Moderation does their job and makes sure that things stay within the lines of accepted rules. You make containment threads though and then everything has to get a containment thread, and then the board is nothing but generals. And then we're /sp/, or worse, /int/.

>>28558832
We do need more moderators though. We need at the very least one person on at any time to clean shit up. There's no need to have to wait as long as it happens sometimes for mods to jump in.

>>28558832
Encouraging filters is a good idea

Like that sand castle guy, does he still post?

filtering with ID'S makes things easier, but I will admit I am in the minority for wanting them

>>28558875
I said more moderation in the sense of broaden the range of bannable offenses.
Replacing global mods by local mods who understand better how "bad shitposting" happens here can help a lot.

>>28558886
I still think that IDs would encourage more samefagging instead of solving it.

>>28558981
I'll admit it might not be in the most 4chan spirit and not many people want them, but if you're going to change your id, you may as well be ban evading. It's for hurting retarded fags

Master fishermen deserve the (you)'s they earned

>>28558875
That's not how it works, though.

The poster(s) will throw up images and shit post. This will drawn in the dumbfucks that can't ignore them and then it just derails the whole fucking thing. The moderator can ban them again and again when they keep coming back to do the same thing in the very same thread, focusing attention on that one in particular at the expense of others, or delete the whole thread at a point where it's clear it's out of hand.

I do, in fact, cri evertim

A single mod on at any given time would be great. I'd imagine it isn't feasible, though, or it'd already be a thing.

repeating my opinion from previous threads, i feel like the only problem with /vp/ are the dead mods who don't even wake up when the board gets massive spam, and that the only thing needed is better mods, but that they don't overmoderate /vp/ to the point where the slightest lewd pic gets you banned, since /vp/ has always been 50% shitpost/waifu/furshit
>mods just deleted a Heliolisk thread but a donut thread and a thread with Espurr crops is still up
eh, maybe they aren't so bad

Ban buttscab's trip.

Get rid of cancerous Showderp

>>28558981
>Replacing global mods by local mods who understand better how "bad shitposting" happens here can help a lot.
This is all we really need. Everything else will follow.

Reposting from last thread because it was nearly dead at the time

What if we held moderator tryouts? Imagine this.
>Mod hopefuls do a sweep of the board and make a list of any actions they would take (ban this poster, delete this thread, move this to /trash/, etc)
>Must also explain their reasoning behind each action
>Candidates post their lists in a thread and use a trip for identification
>/vp/ can judge each candidate and provide feedback
>Present the good ones to Mootwo and get some moderation that's actually representative of what the board wants and needs

After reading Mootwo's posts in that thread, it looks like he's expecting moderation to come from the boards themselves. Plus, this makes sure that any potential mod or janitor actually understands the board and gives a measure of transparency for what's allowed and expected.

It's extremely obvious that these threads are being made and constantly being replied to by the same guy who wants to push his own agenda. Stop. You are not speaking for /vp/.

>>28559283
As I understand it, there aren't really local mods. Mods in general are just rotating between boards.

I honestly don't really mind the furry and feral pokemon lewd posts tbqh. And I just simply hide the threads that I have zero interest to.

>>28555037
>Things we agree on: ban of pepeposters
>Things we are mixed on: IDs
>Literally has a poll in the OP that shows vast majority doesn't want them
Wew, you lot are insane. Why are these idiotic threads still going on here when you don't listen to the majority anyway?

>>28559326
>You are not speaking for /vp/
So why is the /vp/ that supposedly disagrees not speaking up? If it really is just one person who everyone disagrees with, why are they not saying that? Or are you just trying to avoid admitting that you're in the minority?

>>28559380
That's how everyone should deal with them, but they don't because
>reasons.
I'm sure that 95% of all posters have never used the function or even know HOW to use it.

>>28559417
>So why is the /vp/ that supposedly disagrees not speaking up?
This thread only has 30 posters. Clearly most of /vp/ doesn't care about this thread enough to warrant posting here.

>>28559326
Exactly this. It's beyond obvious and ridiculous that it's not just getting removed at this point.

I guess that proves the mods could still use some work here though.

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>>28559474

>>28559474
Clearly most of /vp/ doesn't care about anything.

>>28559566
They care about pokemon and are enjoying the board just the way it is

As an anon who is just now joining this discussion:

I think generals are a bad idea. It may be just me, but I feel this goes against the spirit of the site; /w/ and /wg/ and similar boards excluded, similar meaning boards dedicated to posting content and less focused on the discussion of such content.

I think letting threads live and die with intrest is the best idea, only deleting posts/threads that break board rules. I don't think garbage for the sake of being garbage should be b&able, because there are people who like garbage, as disgusting as they are.

The only people who should be insta b& are the obvious redditfags, gotta keep the bloodline pure ya know?

>>28559583
This anon speaks the truth

>>28559417
Because they don't care enough to post.

You have one guy, possibly the OP, replying to every post in a fashion that makes it obvious it's the same guy, which he does to make sure that _his_ view of the world is constantly in the center.

These threads are never going to be able to come to a conclusion that speaks for the whole board and it's usually only a vocal minority who wants to restructure something they don't like or understand into something they do who post in these. /v/ had a similar restructuring project like half a year ago or so and absolutely fuck all came out of it.

>>28559474
Funny, I was one of those people and I just wanted to say I apreciate the people who do care and want whats best for the board. As pathetic as it may be it's really important to me. Shit posters and all.

>>28559633
Was that really half a year ago? Christ.

>>28559326
Read the previous threads, faggot. Believe it or not, some people aren't happy with the way things are.

Check this, I'm about to save /vp/

>ban OP
>everything else continues as usual

>>28559658
>>28559633
That OP has been copypasted for the past few threads you moron.

>>28559344
Having single-board mods would be a great benefit though.

>>28559657
Exactly 33, out of fucking hundreds, according to this thread's statistics :^)

>>28559474
And how many posters did the other four threads have, retard? Most people have already said their piece in the previous ones.

>>28559688
2 of those are me. I switched from pc to phone so I could post at work.

>>28555358
Reddit is for (You).

>>28559707
I don't know about the first 2, bit the third one had about 50.

>>28559676
Yes, but there has to be a reason they aren't already a thing.

>>28559742
Laziness

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>>28555358
wall of text = redditor

>redditor trying to get moderators to delete more things
fuck off

realistically, the only change that can and should be done without negatively affecting anyone is to rephrase the already rules to make it more clear exactly what they are talking about

"no 'furry' material" could be reworded into something that clearly explains that pokemon that are naturally bipedal/anthro are fine, but "anthrofied" (e.g. a 6ft pikachu with tits) are not

"no genwars" could be reworded to make it clear that posting something like "all gen 2 designs suck" or ">he's a unovabortion" with a clear intent to start a shitstorm still constitutes as genwars and that it isn't just limited to "gen 4 is better than gen 3" and the like

>>28555018
>CTRL F
>No one has suggested killing Genwars

Here's a layout of EVERY Genwar thread
>Kanto baiters pretending to be Gnewunners to trigger newfags
>Unovafags complaining about Gen 6 and shitposting about how Sun and Moon will be shit even if they haven't played it
>Hoennfags not even talking about Gen 3 just praise it from time to time and complain about ORAS rest of the time

>>28559780
>pokemon that are naturally bipedal/anthro are fine, but "anthrofied" (e.g. a 6ft pikachu with tits) are not
I like.

>"all gen 2 designs suck" or ">he's a unovabortion" with a clear intent to start a shitstorm still constitutes as genwars
I dunno; some people truly have wrong opinions.

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>>28559804
>people shouldnt be allowed to argue. a moderator should delete posts that I dont like

there are a few redditors who keep making these threads and trying to clamp down on free speech. fuck off, this board is fine and we enjoy it

stop trying to get a moderator crackdown on free speech. 4chan has actually been pretty lax with minimal drama since hiro took over. stop trying to fuck it up.

>>28559804
genwars are already against the rules and mods are usually vigilant about deleting them after I report them.

>>28559838
Hold on there. This thread is for out-of-touch stick-in-the-mud redditors only. What you're suggesting is non-shit and, thus, not conformant to this thread.

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>>28555916
>>28556118
THIS. Being able to garybomb porn threads without facing a potential ban would be great.

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>>28559838
>less moderation
no, the redditors wont allow it.

>>28559742
Mootykins had his way of doing things. Mootwo might be down with board specific mods.

>>28555037
behold the faggot in his natural habitat

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>>28559838
>1) Less moderation. "Oh no, you can see her panties and the outline of her labia!" Fuck off to facebook kudasai

Are you that dude from the last thread? Didn't that Hex Girl image get snipped?

>>28559898
Let's hope so.

>>28559838
>Less moderation. "Oh no, you can see her panties and the outline of her labia!" Fuck off to facebook kudasai

Fuck off with the "less moderation" bullshit, no one wants to go back to the same /vp/ era that almost got it deleted.

>Larger bump limits. Increase bump limit to 500 and images to 300 or whatever the standard is on some of the other boards.

The standard for more active boards is 500 posts until autosage and 250 images before reaching the limit, but /vp/ isn't as active as boards like /co/.

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>>28559898
>Mootykins had his way of doing things.
Yes, and it was a fucking shitshow that almost destroyed the site.

4chan has been drama free since Hiro took over, and moderation is lax and times are good.

Stop trying to fuck it up you anti-free speech redditor piece of garbage.

>>28559911
>Are you that dude from the last thread? Didn't that Hex Girl image get snipped?

Yeah that was a bit amusing, wasn't it? Deleted the post as well with all that helpful discussion.

>>28559838
I like this.

Less moderation, but more moderators to get shit done quickly.

>>28559838
Going to drop a big fat word on this.

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>>28555018
Stop deleting hunger games threads

>>28559838
>less moderation
But can't you just fuck off to a red board ? Is this so hard to understand ?

>>28559973
>wanting moderators to delete and censor posts you dont like
But can't you just fuck off to reddit ? Is this so hard to understand ?

Y'all really REALLY need to stop replying to the "shitposting is fine" "stop trying to make this reddit" posters. At the risk of being hypocritical, they're probably from reddit and don't understand the nuances.

>>28559838
Exactly this.

Go copy paste this in your next idiotic thread with "stuff we all agree on" OP.

>>28559944
wat

I understood the getting rid of the completely see-through, sopping wet panties, but they got rid of all of those other posts you made to?

The hell did you post besides that image?

>>28559973

Seconding this, not every board has to be about posting shit that makes your dick twitch.

>>28559992

Do you really want folks like the Tailsposter to become more active AND for the Tailsposter to complete that godawful IP logger/DDOS script he's developing?

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>>28559994
We want free speech. We don't want moderators deleting even more posts than they already do.

>>28555037
is obviously a redditor user. he wants moderators to delete things he doesnt like.

>>28559838
hell yeah I agree /b/rother lewds and shitposting is fine fuck those redditors and let's make /vp/ great again XD

>>28559927
Pay attention, anon. All I want is mods who know how /vp/ works. The best way to do that is to get someone from here.

>>28560033
>Do you really want someone to be able to post what they want and use free speech?
Yes

Let me guess, you want a moderator to delete and censor their posts?

>>28560034
>We
You.

>>28559838
1. What you're looking for is more clarification on what is being moderated. We have barely any moderation as is, and it's pretty shit. We need more moderators and more clarification. That being said, maybe something with the outline of her labia doesn't fucking belong on a blue board and maybe, juuuuuuuuust maybe, that belongs on something like /e/?

2. Go for it

3. >Just ignore it and it will be flushed off the board in a few hours
You do know that those threads don't get flushed off in a few hours. They last days.

>>28559927
Times are not good though? Unless you enjoy e-celeb shilling, the constant garbage being spewed back and forth, the lack of creative content, the porn dominating the catalog at times, inappropriate content that can very easily go to other boards where it rightfully fucking belongs.

No one wants to censor you or delete your shit. Just take the shit that doesn't belong on this fucking board and take it to the appropriate board.

>4chan has been drama free since Hiro took over
/asp/, /aco/, /qst/, /tg/, /tv/, and /s4s/ would have a word with you you gigantic fucking moron.

>>28559994
No, they're shitposters who are conveniently ignoring conversation points by blaming plebbit and muh free speech.

>>28560054
>We
needs to be auto-banned.
Not even memeing.

>>28560033 Do not reply to @28560049

Captcha: Dorfplatz STOP

>>28560042
>All I want is mods who "know how /vp/ works"

TRANSLATION: I want moderators to delete more posts that I don't like.

Fuck off with your weasel words. /vp/ works fine right now and you want to bring down the banhammer.

>>28560049
>free speech
>censor
Oh, you're one of those retards.

>>28560049
Are you saying you don't want people like Tailsposter or buttscab, who only post to disrupt and not contribute, banned?

>>28560087
Don't get dragged into a semantic debate.

>>28560087
You had one fucking job.

>>28559992
>wanting a the pokemon containment board to be spammed with pokeporn and bestiality all daylong without any discussion done anymore
If you want to masturbate just go on a porn site or the dedicated board, this board isn't here for this
We leaved /v/ so we could talk about pokemon without being shitposting, not to masturbate all together touching each other dicks you fucktwat

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>A: Let's have a discussion about moderation!

>B: OK, /vp/ is fine, we dont want more censorship, fuck off

>A: B-b-but you're a shitposter! I don't use redditor! Don't respond to him his posts are legitimate!!!!

lol

>>28560098
Doesn't even matter, someone kicking you out for posting porn on their private property (which explicitly states that one should not post certain content) has NOTHING to do with free speech. Being able to use 4chan is a privilege, not a right.

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>>28560111
>"shitposting"

A fancy word for "Posts I don't like, in my opinion, that I think a moderator needs to censor."

Your moderator begging threads are shitposting, and are worse than any other thread on the front page.

>>28560111
Dont you bite. Dont bite that bait. Dont do it.

>>28560143
>Private companies can do what they want!!!

So it's not censorship when giant corporations, like Google or Facebook or Twitter, ban people?

Of course it is. You just presented the most basic bitch, boring mainstream argument in the world.

>>28560143
That's not the point of this thread, though. They're trying to derail.

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>>28560097
>Tailsposter
It hadn't occurred to me, but I did see a post with tails and sonic on it in /vp/, but scrolled past it thinking "huh. That's kinda weird."

My head must've been in the clouds every time it's ever come up.

Well, this thread is at the end of its' life. Derail successful. Time to bounce. *tip tip*

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>>28560175
The point of this thread is to discuss moderation. It's been made clear by many posters that they do not want more moderation.

You wanted a one-sided discussion of "how can we increase moderation and delete more things?"

Well you didnt get it, buddy. Welcome to free speech.

>>28559838
>>28559927
>>28559992
>>28560034
>>28560049
>>28560079
>>28560116
>>28560153
>>28560185
This is the same person and their sole intent is to derail the thread, do not reply to them or any post that looks like it could have been made by them.

>>28560190
nah, man

>>28560079
Let's have an example. This thread here, >>28560032, wouldn't raise any red flags to a mod who doesn't lurk /vp/ much. But anyone here would know to keep an eye on it in case porn was posted.

That sort of thing.

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>>28560190
>Don't reply to people who disagree with our circlejerk! We must delete more posts and have more moderation.

No, we believe in free speech. /vp/ is fine as is and you can take your mod-loving ass elsewhere.

>>28560190
At this point I want to know the real reason besides their bullshit "free speech" garbage and why they're against it. Are they a gardefag? A HG fag? Someone who just enjoys shitting on things? I mean, there have been plenty of people with opposing arguments that have expressed their views with candor and maturity and have been handled as such. These people also don't cherrypick arguments like that faggot does.

I mean, for fucks sake they clearly have no idea what free speech actually is.

>>28560190
Please don't even reply to them. They're here for (You)s and literally nothing else.

Nothing. Else.

This is a thread about how to improve /vp/. Their sole argument is "No." Their supporting argument is "Reddit."

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>>28560201
>s-someone might post a thread I dont like!
Deal with it fucko. We don't want more moderation.

>>28560219
>implying I don't like it

This just isn't the board for it.

>>28560214
>"free speech" is garbage
so you finally admit you hate free speech.

>>28560218
>anyone who has a different opinion than me is trolling. moderators need to ban people who i think are trolling.
this is exactly why we dont need more moderation.

Don't reply to @28560237

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>>28560218
>the only way to "improve" /vp/ is through more moderation
It doesn't work that way.

>>28560016
They could just delete the image and leave the post is what I meant. Really, they shouldn't have deleted the image. In fact, I think the entire point of this thread is to find out what should and shouldn't be pruned. Instead of allowing it to be discussed, they continued enforcement of what is being debated.

>>28560246
I didn't say necessarily more. It could be even less so long as it is focused on the right things.

For example, I'm fine with the generals assembling themselves and staying self contained. Showderp and HG are honestly no different to me than Pokemon Go or Pokemon Shuffle or anime generals.

But I want tailsposters instantaneously and permanently banned from the board.

>>28555201
I agree again with the Capslock friend.

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>>28560267
>It could be even less so long as it is focused on the right things.

"I want moderators to delete the things I don't like, more often."

Fuck off.

>>28560267
This guy understands what /vp/ needs

>>28560214


Well, >>28559838 posted an image of an example of what shouldn't be deleted that he was talking about in his post. This image was summarily deleted by a mod. Just your average case of booty burn.

http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2041205

>>28555201
agree, these threads are fucking garbage
You want to delete more of our posts? Start with your own, kike.

>>28560190
>Just one (you)
Bit disappointed

>>28560214
>At this point I want to know the real reason
It's pretty simple, this is how 4chan has always been. Shitposts and all. we don't want this board, or this site, turning into one of the many, many other sites on the internet where nothing is allowed. We want to keep 4chan the way it is, the way it has always been, and if possible to make it even closer to how it was with even less nonsense rules and nazi-moderation.

You on the other hand just want another sanitised safe-space where nazimods ban everything you don't like. Something you could also find on any other site

>>28560267
>But I want tailsposters instantaneously and permanently banned from the board.

That's next-to-impossible, hoss.

>>28560319
Don't give an inch. Just ban them every time. We don't know if it will make them give up or encourage them, but the *posts* need to be kept off the board, that's what matters.

>>28560301

The problem with that is it will eventually get 4chan into a bit of trouble, do you really want Hiro to deal with a "Porkyman" fiasco?

E-celeb threads shouldn't be on this board.
HG doesn't belong here either. Not /vp/ related, regardless of name choices.

>>28560267
Stop. Stop responding.

I guarantee I am more egotistical than you and if I have the willpower to not respond, so can you.

Stop fucking responding.

The bait is weak, they have no argument worth holding, and the crux of their argument is faulty at best.

STOP FUCKING RESPONDING TO SHITTY BAIT.


Jesus, you dont make these things any easier.

>>28560267
For what it's worth, at least the tailsposters are trying to do something about the shitty content. It's fucked up and they're going about it horribly, but if you miss why tailsthreads are made, you miss their point entirely. Which is a shame.

About generals, my worry with generals is if you start collecting everything together, you end up with sub-ecosystems like what /sp/ and /int/ have turned into. And then the board dies because it all becomes sub-jokes and garbage quality.

>>28560301
What you want almost got this board nuked. Is that what you want? I mean, why lie at this point, no one gives a fuck who you are.

>>28560319
Sure but do it enough and it sends a message that there's no tolerance for it. It discourages shitposters and other imitators.

>>28560345
An argument may be made for HG. I agree with you, but you should at least hear out their argument for it.

>>28560330
Nothing *matters*, its 4chan. If you get so triggered by posts you dont like, just hide it.

No respect for freedom of speech anymore.

>>28560342
what the fuck are you smoking

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>>28560359
>anyone who disagrees with me is "bait"
Many people don't want more moderation. I know this is hard for you to understand, but it's true.

wall of text =
reddit.com/r/pokemon

>>28560267
>permanently banned from the board
That results in immediate ban evasion, at least a short temp ban might have them go do something else for a while.

>>28560370
The fact that you are compulsively attaching ebin reaction images to your posts doesn't make is less obvious that you're a massive samefag being the only one fighting for your cause.

>>28560359
>STOP FUCKING RESPONDING TO SHITTY BAIT.
Anon, I'm the one telling people not to respond to shitposters. I responded to >>28560246 because it was not bait, it was a legitimate point he was making about the amount of moderation here that I disageed with.

>>28560342
What are you even talking about? You're just speculating nonsense and use that as a justification to go full nazi and censor and blanket ban stuff on 4chan of all places?

>>28560359
You should get yourself checked, mate. Get it through you thick skull that people don't want your nonsense, like the polls also clearly show.

>>28560330

The problem is that banning Tailsposters is like trying to ban Barneyfag, they'll just evade until accessing 4chan becomes to cumbersome for regular users.

And if the rumors about the original Tailposter's IP logger program is true, then it could get a lot of folks banned for shit he's done.

>>28560363

You really don't remember Paheal's Porkyman incident?

>>28560359
>Sure but do it enough and it sends a message that there's no tolerance for it. It discourages shitposters and other imitators.

If that were the case then the original Tailsposter would've quit a long time ago.

>>28560402
>blushing
ENJOY YOUR BAN

>>28560394
That's why you don't reply to them, breh

>>28560359
>you should at least hear out their argument for it
No, I'm afraid not. If it's allowed, so must any game where you can choose names and/or avatars. Giving something a shitty Pokemon "skin" doesn't make it on-topic on this board.

>>28560424
Like what?

>>28560402
Nice. Filename checks out. You da real deal.

>>28560433

TPDP, for starters.

>>28560441
TPDP is not the same as HG. TPDP is an ambiguous case that the mods decided is pokemon related enough to give them sanctuary on /vp/. No one was more vocal about them fucking off to /jp/ or /a/ or /vg/ than I, believe me. But apparently, it's ok. If mods allow that garbage, then HG should be allowed as well, because that is the precedent set.

Follow the precedents and set good precedents.

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>>28555018
>implying Hiroyuki "Datamine" Nishimura is going to do anything

>>28560433
You really can't think of an example? Baldur's Gate.

And I'll go ahead and say pretty much any forum. If posting screen caps of forum users with Pokemon names and avatars isn't on-topic, then neither is HG. My initial mention of it being a "game" is irrelevant given that off-topic games don't belong here anymore than any other off-topic thing.

>>28555358
fuck off

You know it seems like this happens every two years. Fairly new users start complaining about shitposting since they cant just ignore blatent bait, start crying for more moderation, get """moot""" to do something about it, he suggests theu make a thread about discussing this shit on the boards, everyone starts suggesting shit thats been done before but has never helped, eventually after a couple months moderation is stepped up by a fair amount, the mods cant deal with all the shitposters after 2 months considering half the point of this site is shitposting, and then things start going down the gutter again. Two years later, it all happens again.

Its hard to believe ive been on this site for ten fucking years and the same thing just happens every time

Also ima just put this out here you kids dont even know how horrible /vp/ used to be. You complain about some porn spam once in a blue moon but good lord this placed used to be nothing but gay fury diaper cub trip fags spamming gay poke porn and china kitty

>>28560548
bingo. these threads are awful, and you have to be fucked in the head to beg for more moderation.

>>28555358
FUCK OFF

>>28560548
>it's hard to believe people want abject shitposting removed

Gee I wonder why the place isn't a cesspool of gay fury diaper cub trip fags spamming gay poke porn and china kitty anymore.

Could it mayhaps be due to good moderation?

>>28560566
>"abject shitposting"

Define, this objectively. (You can't).

You want a moderator to delete posts you don't like. This happens sometimes to 4chan boards, but usually fags like you eventually lose out.

>>28560578
No one's asking to define shitposting. Anyone that does is just getting into a pointless discussion, like the pointless ones about trying to define porn/nsfw here.

Is tailsposting shitposting to you?

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>Literally, actually, UNIRONICALLY wanting INCREASED moderation
>On fucking 4chan
>ON FUCKING 4CHAN
Holy shit my sides, they've reached Alpha Centauri. This isn't fucking Gamefaqs, this isn't Leddit, this isn't a fucking "discussion forum" of any kind. It's 4chan. You see something you don't like, you fucking deal with it because nobody, and I mean NOBODY fucking cares about one anon being "offended" by anything. If you want rules and "intelligent discussion", then fuck off somewhere else. Simple as that, this place isn't for (You).

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>>28560587
>I want moderators to delete "shitposting"
>I can't actually define "shitposting," it's just going to be what I feel like it is

I said you couldn't define it, and you just admitted that you can't. Which is the problem.

Many people don't want more moderation. There are plenty of heavily moderated pokemon forums, where you can enjoy censorship to your hearts content.

>>28560566
It left becuase porn was banned from the board you idiot

/vp/ as a board does not need to exist.
This board is so fucking slow that all of it could fit in a general on /vg/
It's honestly not necessary and being in board form forces people to make bullshit, garbage threads like "claim ur waifu/bro/shouldermon/cocksleave".

Just get rid of this fucking board. We genuinely do not need it.

>>28560566
90% of the reason it left is because blue board, /d/ becoming more lenient on western stuff and then the creation of /aco/ and /trash/

The main reason this board was filled to the brim with porn is because there was no outlet available on the site

>>28560653
I honestly think it would be better if /vp/, /vg/, and /vr/ just merged back into /v/

>>28560653
>>28560690
That's not what this thread is about.

And do you really want all our nice generals smashed together?

>>28560674
>The main reason this board was filled to the brim with porn is because there was no outlet available on the site.

/h/, /e/, and /b/ existed before /vp/ was made. It was only until February 2012 until a lot of it was shitcanned.

>>28560690
No, the split NEEDED to happen.
/v/ was and still is cancer fucking central.
The shittiest people in this site pour out from /v/. Splitting their population up weakened the effects by a shit ton.
Around 2010-2012, /v/ was some massive cancerous growth on 4chan full of feces that would spread its posters everywhere.
People think /pol/ is pervasive now, when /v/ was fucking overwhelming.
Splitting it up did fucking wonders.

>>28560653
You dont even know what a slow board is. Head on over to /cm/ you retard

>>28560735
/h/ and /e/ only allowed pokegirl stuff and only japanese pokegirl stuff while the pokemon porn threads in /b/ got drowned in banana, gary and spiderman posting.

>>28560342
Are you aware of what you're posting anymore?

>>28560548
You literally discovered this site yesterday, kill yourself.

>>28560755
>>28560414

See >>28560417, it was referring to TPCi sending a C&D letter to Paheal for hosting Pokemon porn.

>>28560752
>/h/ and /e/ only allowed pokegirl stuff and only japanese pokegirl.

You could easily get away with posting certain western artists, Apostle being one of 'em.

>while the pokemon porn threads in /b/ got drowned in banana, gary and spiderman posting.

To be fair, /b/ fucking hates furries with a passion.

>>28560653
Fuck off newfag. This isn't even a slow board and it's a containment board which NEEDS to exist at the same reason why /mlp/ exists.

>>28560784
I bet you dont even remember bui

>>28560653
We don't need it until we need it. Having /v/ flooded with pokeshit around release time is what spawned /vp/ in the first place.

Ban Youtubers, yes. Only thing I agree with.

4chan has filters now you fucking double niggers just hide what you don't like????
Reddit is such fucking cancer I hate these censorship faggots

>>28560885
Can't filter images, newfag reddit.

Speaking of, next OP should encourage people to filter "reddit" and "leddit" to keep these threads from getting derailed so easily

>>28560856
You are a newfag, you don't know anything about 4chan.
It already is the reason why /vp/ was created: because /v/ was full of shitty threads and was almost a pokeporn board.

If /vp/ was deleted, you can be certain I'ld spam Gardevoir porn on /v/, just like hundred of other users, just for /vp/ to be resurrected.

It is a containment board.

It also is an ACTIVE board and you CAN'T deny it. It's not /v/ or /a/, but it is active.

Go to Dead boards like /x/ or /cm/ if you want to see how inactive is a dead board.
/vp/ is way more active than fucking /toy/ and maybe /tg/, which are more general thematically.

In short: Shut the fuck up and lurk more.

>>28560918
You...might want to read that one more time, champ.

>>28558440
>legitimate
>most people
Are these nebulous claims defined by anything other than the whimsy of nit-pickers who wouod not have a 4chan board be like a 4chan board?

Other than /vp/ I basically just visit /co/ with any regularity, popping into /int/ and /sp/ occasionally, so maybe my tolerance for shitposts is higher than others' tolerance.

What board is a good example that you would have /vp/ follow? /sci/? /o/? /m/? /n/? /po/? /tg/?

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I'm sure that everyone that are requesting bans on half of this board's content will be the first complaining about "those nazi mods" if they have what they want.

>>28560653
>So fucking slow
/vp/ threads get archived on 3 hours of no responses. At January threads could last about 10 hours with no responses.
We have a new post roughly each 4 seconds.
In the same rate, we would fill a /vg/ thread in about 30 or 40 minutes.
While in boards like /3/ or /gd/ threads archive on 1 month.

>>28560807
Following that same train of thought, TPCi should have throwed C&D to half of the internet, including Pixiv, Tumblr and DeviantArt. And, in the eventual case of that happening, we can merge with Shin Megami Tensei, Dragon Quest, Telefang, Digimon, Neopets and others and create /vm/ - Monster Collection Games.

>>28560885
They indeed have, but 80% of the people here seem to be too stupid to use them and instead they prefer to throw a tantrum to content they don't like.
t. Someone that posts occasionally in Gardevoir threads

>>28560548 here

I also like how everytime these threads are made, it just eventually devolves into newfags calling each other newfags

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>>28560903

How to get rid of 90% of underages infesting this board
>delete all giveaway/injection threads (they're both essentially the same thing anyway)
>delete all low effort spam fests like "favorite/least favorite Pokemon of X region/generation/type/all time"
>delete all e-celeb threads
If you want to go an extra mile you could also make /vp/ a red board again, provided the /b/ kinds of porn stays on /b/

>>28561014
But for this you need to have 4chanX plugin installed.
Anyways, I'll share my stash of filtered images.
http://pastebin.com/1tpxtk5f

>>28561014
>expecting more than one tenth of one percent of /vp/ regulars to use 4chanX

>>28561035
Sigh, its another newfags typical idea to get rid of shitposting, something that 4chans entire concept promotes, and delete threads that they just dont like. This is getting old, reddit

>>28561055
t. underage

@28561035 is bait, don't reply

We ALL want e-celeb threads gone

Everything else is 100% Pokemon

>>28561055
Hello post-2012 poster, don't you have a filthy frank video to go watch

>>28561035
You do know that porn used to be allowed on /vp/, right? And you do know that it was literally 95% gay fetish furry porn being spammed non stop by the same tripfags over and over, right?

>>28560903
Download 4chanX you absolute retard

>>28561043
Is there a way to see what these are? Don't want to hide innocuous posts.

>>28561094 -> >>28561054

Disregard >>28561106 I misquoted

>>28561083
>>28561068
Its sooooooo fucking easy to spot out new users these days. Just call then a newfag and tyoe something like sigh or omg and they just fucking have an aneurism. "How dare you not be serious on MY 4chan! T-This place used to be about very serious and intelligent discussion, and the mods always did their jobs!"

Like for real guys, its time to grow up lol

>>28561116
Tailsposting, Exodiaposting and some Garyposting, Roothoot, and some porn spam.
Go to the Nyafuu archive and post "Search by image MD5" if you're still curious.

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>>28560402
>You can post cute images here. It was just an overzealous janitor. They will understand the irony of their moderation from the last thread and won't make the same mistake again.
>They will understand the irony of their moderation from the last thread and won't make the same mistake again.
>won't make the same mistake again.
>again.

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>>28561140
You must've been around for a while. I haven't seen most of that stuff in ages. Thanks for the tip.

>>28561078
I never said giveaway threads and your favorite blahblah aren't on topic, I just said it's an easiest way to make underage shitters like >>28561055 go away for good. "Your favorite X" threads are usually the first kind of threads underages make their post in, since it requires literally 0 effort on their part and makes them feel like someone cares what kind of magical Japanese monster they like. There is nothing that scares kids away more than having to participate in an actual discussion.

>>28561135
t. underage

>>28561089
>You do know that porn used to be allowed on /vp/, right?

If you're talking about pre-2012 era /vp/ then that was more due to the lack of moderation than it was being "allowed" by anyone of authority.

Hell, /vp/ was still a blue board before 2012!

>>28561148
Well I guess we really do need this discussion because there was literally nothing wrong with cute pokegirl panties shots

>>28560973
>Following that same train of thought, TPCi should have throwed C&D to half of the internet, including Pixiv, Tumblr and DeviantArt. And, in the eventual case of that happening, we can merge with Shin Megami Tensei, Dragon Quest, Telefang, Digimon, Neopets and others and create /vm/ - Monster Collection Games.

Nice strawman, the C&D was due to Paheal becoming the top hit for Pokemon on Google.

Also...

>implying any of this will matter when the Trans-pacific Partnership is passed.

>>28561089
>provided the /b/ kind of porn stays on /b/

>>28561239

Most boorus and image-hosting websites will list upskirts, pantyshots, and VPL pics as questionable content.

>>28560973
>Implying Pokemon didn't copy ideas from Shin Megami Tensei

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>>28561169
>actual discussion
>4chan
Choose one and only one.

>>28561273
How old is SMT?

Pokemon was being worked on since 1989

>>28561277
We have plenty of actual discussion. What's with all this self-hating "4chan is complete shit" garbage?

>>28561262
... Have you been to /b/ in the last decade? Its literally just vanilla shit like "oh dude i wanna eat that white girl, with no ass or tits, vagina out post more!"

>>28561284
First Megami Tensei game got released in 1987.

>>28561265
maybe you can take your complaints about images to a pokemon forum that isn't an imageboard

>>28561303

And I'm simply saying that the mods and janitors are erring on the safe side when it comes to stuff like that.

>>28561178
>When you say you want shitposting gone but then you spam a /lit/ meme

Im outie dudes, enjoy wasting your time crying that this site isnt reddit. Have a bombastic night, dudes

>>28561277
There are a few gems here and there. I see nothing wrong with encouraging (keyword) these kind of threads to appear more frequently. Shiposting will obviously never disappear completely.

>>28561320
>Terrible grammer.
>Decides to leave when things aren't going his way and his images are deleted.

You sound like you belong in reddit more than he does. You also sound like Bui.

>>28561301
Is there any proof whatsoever Tajiri used the horribly niche SMT1 as an inspiration for Capmon/Pokemon? The games aren't similar in any way in their tone, gameplay and especially the target audience.

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>>28560596
>I want less moderation so I can be proud that my secret club is wild and free

The only thing that'll help this board is having more moderators on.
They're so slow on this board.
As for the rest, this board has been shit since 2010, I don't see why people think it'll get any better.

>>28560596
>le
>pretending 4chan is anything special in 2016
>kek
>shitty cartoon reaction image
>(You)
ew

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>>28561320
>/lit/ meme

>>28561380
Mods are slow on every board

Wanna know why? Because 4chan is literally just shitposting. Its the entire fucking point of the site

Why do you think people get banned for reporting shitposting so often?

>>28561411
>Why do you think people get banned for reporting shitposting so often?
In your dreams maybe.

Blatant shitposting usually gets deleted fairly quickly.

>>28561366
He copied the whole concept from Dragon Quest V.

You should all keep in mind this is a pre release season.

Just wait until january or so. The board will be pretty much dead again and the levels of shitposting will drop to tolerable levels.

It happens every time. I'm guessing many of you started posting last year, when the ORAS shitstorm had already passed, and now you're just shitting your pants because the SM one is coming in full force.

But it will pass, and all of us will survive. Many will leave us but that's probably for the better.

The important thing is that we will always have each other.

I love you guys.

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>>28561553

>>28561553
>The board will be pretty much dead again and the levels of shitposting will drop to tolerable levels.

No man, we are going to get tons of post game content and free DLC trickling out over 2017 to keep up the hype. This board will be rockin'

>>28561424
Nigga literally anyone whos tried consistently reporting blatent shitposting will tell you they get warned and banned for doing so

And shitposting hardly ever gets deleted, SPAM gets deleted

Spam and shitposting are not the same thing

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>>28561369
>>28561393
>>>>>>>>>>>>28561135

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I posted my opinions in the first one of these threads and didn't check in on the others, so I don't know if there's been any consensus for or against them, but I'll repost a condensed version:

>enforce stricter moderation on lewdposting and fetishes
>ban waifu generals, a thread every once in a while with SFW images is fine but shit like the Wicke/Lusamine threads that have popped up recently are trash
>ban all e-celeb threads

>>28561553
I actually think /vp/ is in a better state right now than it was in 2015. 2015 was a fucking garbage year for /vp/, especially toward the end, because there was no news and nothing to discuss regarding the mainline games. There are a ton of newfags who won't lurk before posting right now, but at least we have discussion to go along with it, instead of the board being completely kill.

I love you too, anon.

>>28561643
You can just hide the Lusamine and Wicke threads, man.

This thread should be about problems that transcend individual threads. e-celeb threads and e-celeb drama need to go, but really what is the problem with all the Wicke fans all contained in one thread sharing content?

>>28561668
I was using them as an example, I don't have anything against Wicke and Lusamine personally, though the fact that in the first thread I saw a Lusamine fan arguing against banning fetishes because the Lusamine threads are apparently filled with footfags does't help my view of those threads. I don't think we should have any 24/7 general about a specific character or Pokémon, as a precaution so we don't create anything as bad as Gardevoir General ever again.

I wish the hypnosis threads weren't all purged from the archives so I could use them as an example of why we should keep fetishes off /vp/. I feel there are multiple other boards you can go to for that kind of thing.

Let me try to summarize this.

We want more mods and janitors for consistent coverage, and we want them to understand the board's culture more so valid things don't get deleted. We also want Redditbook things like YouTube e-celebs to be gone. But we also want them to mostly stay passive and only intervene when necessary because it's fucking 4chan and piss babies need to get over themselves.

Does that about cover it?

change nothing

>>28562110
The only thing we want is faster response to furspam

Disliking eceleb shit is a /v/ meme and has no relevance here.

>/vp/ needing to be changed
It's fucking fine the way it is.
The only people who think it's not are newfags that don't understand imageboards

Shit's popular now, sooner or later it'll be not popular and faggots will move onto the next thing. Constant leak threads will stop when S/M are out just like leaks about Sm4sh stopped on /v/ when it was released.

>>28562532
It's still shilling nonsense. If that's allowed, then the livestreams should be allowed back. Those were a great time.

>>28562665
Does anyone know why they removed "advertisement" as an option on reports? Was it just being abused?

>False flag thread made by Leakfag just got deleted
Based.

>>28562532
I dislike eceleb shit because it's a massive sign of underage and draws underage here.

Hey guys, i have an opinion you dont agree with.

Proceed to call me an underage redditor instead of coming up with a counter argument.

Oh yeah and don't forget, every post who agrees with me and disagrees with you is me again same fagging.

>>28564411
Just be careful. If your only argument is that it draws an undesirable crowd, that's not actually taking issue with the subject matter. Take giveaway threads for example. They attracted underage like a fucking beacon, but they were 100% Pokemon related without breaking any rules, and therefore valid.

The e celeb shit is revolting and cancerous, but if that's your only reason, you're just bitching about things you don't like. If you want a real reason, it's that it falls under advertising, or that clickbait videos can't be on-topic because their only purpose is to grub views instead of containing discussion material.

>>28562532
Threads focusing on discussion about a specific person who only plays Pokémon and has no greater contribution to the franchise do not belong on this board. I could see someone defending Serebii or Bulbapedia threads since those talk about the websites as well, but shit like Verlisify or TyranitarTube or whoever that "IT ALL COMES TOGETHER" faggot is, they don't belong here.

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>>28559838

>>28560290
>Rating: Explicit

Found the faggot.

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Reminder that if you increase the leniency on sexually suggestive images you will find yourself flooded in sexually suggestive images, and allowing porn will cause /vp/ to become nothing but porn. By reducing the amount of moderation further than it already is you're promoting pic related and similar degeneracy to come back.

>>28555037
>pepeposting
What does this have to do with anything? Fuck off.

I'd ban mobile posting before fucking "pepeposting"

That will eliminate a giant variety of shitposting.

>>28555037
Eh I don't care about HG threads honestly. Never bothered me since they mainly stayed in there aside from the occasional pictures.

Hey look.
I'm a new IP (see the unique IP counter: 68 before me) and i dont want ids.
Better tell me to stop same fagging and head to leddit where the rest of the shitposting retards hang out.

>>28571559
I'm not a new IP but I also don't want IDs. I don't understand how these people can call people reddit for not wanting something that makes the site directly more li

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>attempt to make /vp/ better devloves into shit-flinging
every fucking time

>>28571813
Because the people on this board take anyone disagreeing with them as a personal attack.
Its almost as if this board were actually full of children.....

Anons, doing more and more of what IDs would be useful aginst as a way to explain why they aren't needed doesn't help your point. It just makes it clearer that we sould probably employ IDs, and if that does have issues, go from there to find something stringent enough that it will work.

TL;DR : If you don't want IDs, don't engage in the activities that show why they or something better then them might be nessary.

>>28572694
Nothing about IDs is necessary to /vp/. The only reason you want them is to detect samefagging. People have always samefagged since the dawn of 4chan, get the fuck over it. Anonymity is far more important than your paper thin feelings.

The fact of the matter is, each post should be measured by its own content. Let's say there's a team rating thread and someone has a couple different Trainer Cards. Instead of being judged separately, they'll be lumped together. It will also fuck with discussion in general.
>I think [opinion]!
>Yeah well you said something I disagree with way earlier in the thread, so I'm going to disregard any point you make, even if I would have agreed with it otherwise

If you want to know exactly who posts what, then go to a different site that's not entirely based on being anonymous.

>>28574252
There are other reasons anon, that is just the more prevalent one.

Also, I wonder why you stick with the anonymous argument, even with IDs we still have no clue who you are. We can't track you down and beat you up, even if you deserve it. So anonymity is still preserved.

>>28572694
>doing more and more of what IDs would be useful aginst

Are you implying everyone who doesn't want IDs is a single samefag?

If we were samefagging, a mod would be able to tell by checking the IPs of the samefag posts, and if the poster took measures to prevent that, they'd also have a different ID for each post, rendering it pointless.

No porn

No lewds

Increased mods/janitors, keeping tailsposters and lizardfuckers out

More generals (poketuber general hopefully, I actually like certain poketubers but all the shitposting makes it entirely impossible to have a thread about it without getting banned immediately. And yet, donut threads go 200 replies without anything happening)

Only quality leak threads (mosaic poster a few nights ago is a good example of a quality thread)

More strictly enforce the gotta catchem all rule

Ban trips who use them without a good reason

Pin this thread

>>28574799
No, I am implying what I can easly. I know your use of english is new, but notice I said Anons, implying more then one anon. Which would be obvious if you read the post instead of tring to think of a strawman argument to come back with.

Just ban everyone in Showderp threads.

>>28574252
This, samefagging is only as cancerous as the posts themselves. Any thread that would require actually removing anonymity is easily done so by trip and as this anon said, isn't actually necessary to /vp/. I mean at that point we might as well post our In-game Trainer IDs

>Anonymity is far more important than your paper thin feelings.
I think it'd only hurt them even further by ultimately showing how little people actually care.

>>28575751
Or it would show the absolute opposite. Maybe showing how little support those who claim the majority opinion really has.

>>28575126
Judging by the scope of the issues you're concerned about, you haven't been here longer than a year

>>28574252
Uh oh, you are against the really dumb idea of implementing IDs.
Guess I have to say you're from some other site now or I'll be forced to admit you're right.

Also I propose we sticky the whole tails comic on /vp/, just like IDs its never been done before and would stop the tails poster from posting it in other threads.
Don't argue against this or i'll call you underaged and a tails shit poster.
At the very least do it for a week, just so we can see how it'll work.

Inb4 Bitching About /vp/ General Thread #6

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>>28555018
Fuck.

>>28577233
We need to wait for Monday during school. Just look at the timestamps, it all goes to shit after school hours. Weekends won't get us anywhere here.

We need a fun mod. Someone who will publicly ban people just because it's funny and occasionally sticky neat things. It's become far too clinical.

I don't know how to put this without it sounding cringey as fuck, but we need a mod who does things just for the lulz. There's no better word for it. It would improve the general atmosphere here.

>>28578773
So, basically a mod that's /b/ and /s4s/ combined?
No thanks.

>>28577193
I have never seen someone reply sarcastically respond to themselves.

>inb4 I am not him
Oh my, if only we could know for sure

>>28578957
No, not like that, I just want a mod who's one of us. I prefer my hotpockets not to be cold inside.

>>28579022
It's easy to know for sure when you can't speak English, faggot.