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>>>/qa/668450 >>>/qa/667528 Hiro is opening

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>>>/qa/668450
>>>/qa/667528

Hiro is opening up the janitor cock-block for discussing what we want as board rules/guidelines, and complaints about moderation incompetence. Take your chance to discuss whatever you feel is necessary. Note to the jannies, this discussion is allowed as >>>/qa/668450. And note all of Hiro's post in the thread (Ctrl+F "##") if that isn't enough.

Now most of us know /vp/ has gotten worse and worse over the past several years. While this doesn't necessarily help stop shitposting or change what is already rule breaking posts, it can tighten the boards quality if rules prohibit what some would post as borderline garbage, lessening their will to attempt it if they can't ban evade. You can't stop proxy/VPNfags, but those who get a pass posting shit for no repercussion can be slowed. You know the topics in question, you know the posts. Stealth furry, etc, etc.

Now, I haven't been around lately because of the garbage and overall diminishing quality here, less and less as the months and years go by, but I'm spreading this information for those who wish to try to discuss any changes to /vp/, because here's our chance for maybe a small hope for a brighter future.

Will be linking to Hiro in the /qa/ thread if we get somewhere with this.
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>>28522699
For starters, I think priorities need to be straightened.
its kinda ridiculous that when there's multiple shitposting/heliolisk/etc threads, the janitor decides that those hunger games guys need to be dealt with first.
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All it really comes down to is getting janitors who actually delete things. Poketuber threads for example wouldn't be nearly as big a problem if they were deleted. The issue is they stay up for fucking hours.
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Unlike you, I believe in free speech. We shouldn't censor posts host we don't like.

I am capable of ignoring threads I dont like, unlike you.

>He wants a moderator to delete threads he doesnt like
Lol
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>>28522826
well actually report shit then
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>>28522880
imo a certain amount of discussion of that kind of thing--who's acceptable, who's reliable, who fucking sucks and is fun to mock--is acceptable
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>>28522886
Mainly this, even if cancer threads get deleted the posters will still push it. Just accept /vp/ is a shitty board on a shitty website. There are a few cases where thread deletion would help like spam and anything offtopic, or anything that's trying to start shit
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>>28522909
But reporting does nothing because of incompetent moderation.
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>>28522909
2bh I stopped bothering with reporting when I started getting warnings for "false reports" on porn threads.
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>>28522971
well do it anyway and try out for janitor next time it's open
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So what are the chances of getting gardevoir threads moved to /trash/
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>>28522954
It's not because every single one of them devolves into cancerous e-celeb drama.
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>>28522886
There's a difference betweeen censoring free speech and spam. I may not like poketuber threads, but we don't need 10 of them. We don't need the same garbage posted 15 times in a different way to make it seem like a different thread. If it is a blue board, we don't need sexualized pokemon threads. If we turn it red, then it's allowed. Otherwise, it goes where furries belong(we need /fur/)

Contrary, we also need janitors who are actually on our side and don't delete shit because they don't like it, rather if we as a board don't want it. If we want something, we should be able to have it.
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>>28523013
I wouldn't send them to /trash/ but instead give them a day like the fox friday. And make these days into rules
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>>28522880
>>28522971

This.
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One of you faggots is up to something.

Don't fall for it /vp/, they're watching us!
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>>28523071
Aye I agree. It's been long enough. They have become a (undesirable) part of 4chan's comunity and its about time that they got their own board instead of spaming /b/, /aco/, and /vp/
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>>28523013
Waifu threads in general need to go
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>>28523140
t h i s
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>>28523013
It's Pokemon my dude.
Just filter it out if you hate it
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Bans that need to be enforced:
Porn
Genwars
Bans that could be dropped:
Hunger Games
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>>28523013
Depends on if it violates board rules.
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>>28523169
You forgot frogposters in first cathegory
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We need fucking IDs
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>>28523284
wtf? no
jesus christ
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>>28523257
True.
Bans that need to be enforced:
Porn
Pepe
Genwars
GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL
Droppable Bans:
Hunger Games
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>>28523284
For
What
Purpose
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>>28523169
Don't forget leakspammers.
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Remove suggestive pokecharacters threads.

II'll sacrifice bikini trainers just so bara/shirtless pokemon stop being posted.
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>>28523071
>we need /fur/
No. Containment is one thing, but having certain boards would attract the wrong kind of people.
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>>28523284
This
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>>28523326
pokemen*
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>>28522886
There's a very big difference between deleting opinions and deleting shitposting.
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>>28523354
pokemyn pls
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>>28523202
Well every thread I've seen is shit flinging from people that hate gardevoir and love it too much.
Threads full of gardevoir with tits (this makes it auto furry).
And eventually you get that tails comic and the exodia cards thrown into the mix.

If that isn't bad enough there seems to be some petty drama going around about some chat room.

They probably don't break any rules but I cant see how people could defend a thread like this.
The Phox people and other pokemon related threads stay on topic and go about posting pictures instead of acting like baboons.
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>>28523318
Addendum, the other side of the leak wars as well (shitposting deniers). Might even get the leakfags since they false flag a lot, too.
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>>28523306
>>28523315
Samefagging is literally the biggest problem on this board. It keeps the spam threads in the catalog and makes the shitposter seem to be many more than they are.
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>>28523318
True.
Bans that need to be enforced:
Porn
Pepe
Genwars
GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL
Droppable Bans:
Hunger Games
New bans:
Leaks without evidence
leakspamming
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>>28522826
>>28523169
>>28523311
>HGfags are STILL complaining that their "game" isn't allowed on /vp/
Regardless, the issue isn't "deletion priority," it's the fact that there aren't any fucking janitors around for hours at a time.
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>>28523386
can we get rid of shit posters like this
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>>28523368
>And eventually you get that tails comic and the exodia cards thrown into the mix.
I don't participate in Garde threads but I fail to see how Gardefags are to blame for that instead of the tailsposter.
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>>28523311
I think we should drop Gotta Catch Them All. 90% of the board doesn't do it anyway and same people dont even play the main games. Just look at the PMD and GO fans.
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I just hate how Pokemon threads are treated on /v/.

Some of them are allowed to stay but some get deleted on the spot. Where's the transparency?
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>>28523284
>get IDs
>literally 40 poster on this whole board
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>>28523306
>>28523315
Why not? They only last for one thread and then they disappear. Literally the only reason to not have ID's is to samefag.
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>>28523415
Say what you want but the tailsposter goes after the threads that shouldn't really be on this board.

How he does it no one should approve of but he's right in the fact that furry shit needs to leave.
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>>28523430
They should all be deleted on the spot. That's why /vp/ is a thing.
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I'm not against anything on /vp/ except for all the fucking twitter e-celeb threads like "CHECK OUT WHAT THIS ONE GUY SAID ABOUT SOMETHING POKEMON RELATED ON TWITTER"

that needs to go

everything else is okay


>>28523169
hunger games is cancer
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>>28523284
This, please.
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>>28523100
Noted it in the OP that I'd be alerting Hiro to watch the thread. Nothing sneaky about that
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>>28523454
you think THATS the problem with this board? lets just ban waifu threads and quality will go up once those guys are gone, imo.
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Enforce the Gotta Catch Em All rule more seriously, for fucks sake it's all we have
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>>28523430
They should be deleted because all pokemon threads on /v/ are nothing but shitposting.
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>>28523284
NO!
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>>28523493
But here is the question:
If a gen wuner or a GO player catches all 151 pokemons in their game, but we now have 700+ pokemons, does it count as catching them all?
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>>28523284
As one of the biggest fun posters on /vp/ i disapprove of IDs.

It would make my job of having fun with everyone a pain in the ass and then i couldn't photo shop my posts when someone calls me out on same fagging =(
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ID's NOW
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>>28523491
I agree with the removal of waifu threads but IDs should be added
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>>28523493
>>28523541
I think the rule doesn't literally mean you need to have caught all Pokemon, it means you WANT to or you at least acknowledge the importance of the backbone of the whole franchise. If you make a thread saying that idea is stupid then you should get your ass banned, because why else would you even be here unless you respect it?
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>>28523607
idk im opposed to ids for (admittedly stupid) moral reasons. i guess i could go for it tho if other people wanted it. doesn't actually hurt me.
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I'm alright with IDs, as long as /v/ gets it too since they're far worse than us and need it more
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>>28523565
>>28523607
>>28523629
No.
Who gives a shit if your thread was spammed by a retarded 12 year old. This is /vp/ get used to it.

IDs would deanonymise people in recurring threads like Wifi general (lets say you switch system / carts) or even the drawfag threads when people just fill requests.
There are some people who want to remain anonymous and this board doesn't move nearly fast enough to justify ID's.
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>>28523649
fuck ok lets prioritize removing waifu threads then PLEASE NINTENDO
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>>28523649
Do you not realize that IDs are thread-specific?
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>>28523649
IDs are thread specific, it won't follow you to other threads
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>>28523284
It's so easy to get around ID shit that there's no real reason to add it. I agree, 4chan as a whole needs IDs, but you can just hop on your phone and samefag that way.
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>>28523649
Anon...
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Adding IDs is a terrible idea, anyone who's a dedicated enough shitposter will get around it anyway and it'll put off people who want to stay strictly anonymous.
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>>28523679
>Do you not realize that IDs are thread-specific?
Like i said, this board doesn't move fast enough.
A draw thread could be up for days and you are stuck with the same ID the whole time.
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As others stated, more/more active janitors are needed. We have problems with:
* Poketuber threads, both advertising spam and general shitposting
* Genwar threads (99% of the posts are shitposting about genwunners or gen 5 with no substance)
* Certain shitposts (mass quoting, (you)-posting, arguiments about samefagging)
* Shitposts in general threads (firsts, op a shit, etc.). The anime general is a good example of an extremely high percentage of shitposts, but I think the mods and janitors gave up on them. I have noticed a bit less due to Serena being dropped though, let's hope those posters just migrate away.
* ShitOPs (Pepe etc., bully threads)
* Occasional spam, which I understand is harder to handle since it's usually sustained spam in short cursts (like heliolisk, or goodra in the past)
* Waifu/Pokegirl/Gardevoir threads technically belong here, but they are often low quality so they need to be pruned when they are shit/devolve into lewds. Be strict about this one, guys. If a waifu thread has any suggestive or fetishy components to it in the OP, delete it. Feet, bullying, whatever.
** Waifu "claim" threads need to be deleted immediately. They are no different than get/roll threads.
** Also to repeat, porn. I've taken to finding any suggestive threads and individually reporting any porn I see in them, which gets deleted more often than not, thankfully. But sometimes I feel like they only delete the reported post and don't warn the user.

And we need to ignore people like >>28522886 >>28522969 who shit up every moderation discussion thread, including those linked in OP, who think we should be allowed to spam anything we want on any board. Don't reply to them.
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>>28523484
Hiro isn't going to watch this thread. But nice job getting a bunch of autists in here so we can all complain to eachother while the thread slowly dies.

He couldn't even properly reply in his introduction thread. He replied and read posts literally in order and got maybe 30, 40 posts deep. In a thread that hit bump limit in 5 minutes.

His English is already as poor as it is. Nice try OP, but nothing will come of it.

moot, and even the other mods from what we know, opposed making 4chan bigger and flooding it with more boards. That's all Hiro has done despite people not wanting some or complaining about their existence. He's made threads and asked, everyone told him yes, no, or whatever, and he just disappeared after one post and then continued to do whatever he was gonna do.

Don't hedge your bets on Hiro. The only ally any board has is likely whatever oldfag mod/janny that's still around and hasn't left for whatever reason.
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>>28523710
..And? That means you can no longer do what?
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Make /vp/ red.
Most of /vp/ wants it, as we've seen repeatedly.
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>>28523387
Naming threads. Not all of them are bad, but they are being spammed and (of course) used as gets thread for "muh screencap" and le ebin N posting.
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I got a 3 day ban for asking the mods why I was warned FOR REPORTING A "MOTHER WILL DIE IN SLEEP" DERAIL
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Imo waifu threads and poketuber threads are fine. As long as they're not clogging up the board what does it matter? Just keep it all in the same thread.

ID's, however, I think are a good idea. No more samefagging and no more accusation of such.
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>>28523719
A huge chunk of Lusamine's appeal is her being dom and her sexy feet.

So I don't agree with you suggestion concerning waifu threads
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>>28523719
>** Also to repeat, porn. I've taken to finding any suggestive threads and individually reporting any porn I see in them, which gets deleted more often than not, thankfully. But sometimes I feel like they only delete the reported post and don't warn the user.
Fucking kill yourself newfag.
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>>28523729
Naming threads are get threads most of the time. Those need to be deleted, though nickname threads in general are fine.

>>28523755
If waifu threads were more substantive than dumping deviantart/tumblr/pixiv images, I would be more sympathetic.
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>>28523727
pls no
>>28523734
sounds about right similar things have happened to me
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>>28523722
It doesn't just apply to draw threads, just using it as an example but lets just say theres a group of people who hate what i did with their favorite waifu misty wearing a suit, no trip no nothing.
Now i fill another request of ash on a skateboard. The ID has now shown that i'm that other guy and people can continue to harass me or any other draw fag based on that.

Wifi general is a whole new can of worms.
Those threads stay up for a long time and for people who have multiple carts and systems then they can be linked all together with ID's.
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Ban everyone making threads about "e-celebs", it's not related to pokemon and it's just shitposting central.

Send furfags to >>>/mlp/ or any other furfag board, /vp/ should be a place for discussion about the series itself not about how much I want to fap to pokemon.
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>>28523708
t. shitposter
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>>28522699
Ban:
Fox Friday, Gardevoir and all the stealth furry threads
Verlisify threads, it's just shit posting
Tripfags like Buttscab, they derail threads looking for attention
"Smogon don't let me use my bros" threads
"Age, Fave poke, gender, virgin" etc threads, fuck off back to /soc/
Improvements should be having actual janitors since porn can be on the board for hours and mods who aren't controlling autists
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>>28523790
Yes. It's the board consensus.
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>>28523734
see
>>28522971
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>>28523840
ID's is the board consensus
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>>28523839
yes
yes
yes
no, competitive discussions are fine
yes and no, there is no reason to ask your age, gender, virginity status etc. but we should have "what's your favorite pokemon?" type of threads without that other shit
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>>28522971
Reporting does do something, it gets the reporter warned and banned.
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>>28523721
Hiro said in the other thread it was also about community consensus. These threads are constructuve, so I think it's important to have them; it builds a conversation and we can make a new thread about it building on the previous one, help form consensus here among the users and the mods.
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Ban people who don't play the spin-offs. They aren't real Pokémon fans.
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>>28523835
And why do you think shoving them to another blue board is the solution?
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>>28522699
We should just ban tripfags, camwhores and people shilling their own stream.
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>>28523886
Furfags need their own containment board, they literally shitpost and derail every thread which isn't about fucking pokemon, I'm more amazed by the fact there still isn't one.

I don't give a shit about whichever shithole they get sent to.
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Ban:
Tripfags and Richard
Recurring "Ash/Xfags/etc BTFO" thread spam
Obnoxious attempts at "calling out" users (for example, the anime general calling everyone who goes against the shipper circlejerk "77/Scott/Stalebaiter")
E-celebrity drama (Serebii/Pokejungle, Poketubers, etc)
"LEAKS WHEN/ITS FUCKING NOTHING/(OBVIOUS FAKE SUCH AS ROOTHOOT)" thread spam
Obviously samefagged reaction pic reply spamming
Insecure newgenners who attack gen 1 and everything associated with it constantly

Allow:
Pokegirl lewd threads (not outright /h/ stuff, but /e/ art and softcore /d/ should be allowed. This is an 18+ site for a reason.)
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>>28523368
>Threads full of gardevoir with tits (this makes it auto furry).

We need concrete definitions of what is considered "furry" established so that it can be shown on each post if it violates rules.
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>>28523719
>f a waifu thread has any suggestive or fetishy components to it in the OP, delete it. Feet, bullying, whatever.

Hey man, if it's SFW then why does it matter? If it's a waifu thread it's already inherently lewd. Are the threads just to post about how wonderful their character is? Ridiculous. If lewd/fetish is banned then just ban the whole damn thread. And if you ban the threads it's just going to leak into other threads. So you might as well just leave it.
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>>28523839
>>28523909
>>28523928
Random idea: what if trips were thread-specific, instead acting like voluntary IDs?
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>>28523928
>Insecure newgenners who attack gen 1 and everything associated with it constantly
Instead we should just ban all genwar instigators like the rules state, shame fuck all is done about the genwar flamers. You're one of them.
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>>28523928
>/e/ art and softcore /d/
Please no
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>>28523927
>>28523071
>>28523139
>>28523931
This
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>>28523961
As long as they ban them if they go out of their way to aay who they are. And they should also ban the shitposter in /wfg/
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>>28523863
I actually like competitive discussion, which is why I hate when it devolves into Karen fags and Smogon players taking the "muh bro isn't Ou viable fuk Smogon" bait. Fave poke threads are fine too, it's just a lot are used to mask blatant /soc/ tier threads
>>28523839
I want to add banning Beg threads, there were a ton when the Arceus codes got released and Injectors vs Breeders threads
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>>28523959
Because at some point, it's not Pokemon related anymore, not at its core.
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>>28523931
what, the guidelines are clear in blue board case: sexualize an animal/pokemon = furfag and needs to go
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>>28523727
Hell no. It's not a porn board if you made it red that's all you'd see. Just go use the actual porn boards you fucking degenerate.
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>>28523856
>be fag in slow moving TCG general
>scam some retard out of his good cards on TCGO
>for the next few days no one will play or trade with me

How about no. ID's are implemented on boards with alot of traffic (think /b/ and /pol/) to prevent same fagging in the same threads, that thread will be gone soon enough along with your ID.
They are not suited for a slow board like /vp/.
I dont get why everyone want to throw away their anonymity.
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>>28523422
>he didn't recruit every single Pokemon in PMD
MODSSSSS
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>>28524036
That is a pretty shit thing. Posting images of exaggerated feet or mouth would pass since those are not sexual parts.
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>>28524072
>implying
but seriously, i guess you're right. but anyway that wouldbe an a-ok start by me, if the mods could just start enforcing that.
i get the feeling tho that plenty of mods are fur fags
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>>28523856
not really.
for the threads that trips can be justified it'll make it impossible to turn that trip off and just post like a regular user
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>>28524044
I don't play TCG but that sounds like a dick move
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>>28523326
Fuck off, you do know that if you don't like bara threads all you have to do is stay way from them right?
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>"spam" isn't free speech
>"shitposting" isn't free speech

Lol

Keep making up subjective words to censor speech you don't like
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>>28524109
>i get the feeling tho that plenty of mods are fur fags
That's not a feeling but a known fact, sadly.

Before even discussing about rules changes some mods should get purged honestly.
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It would be great if the "no gen wars" rule was actually enforced. Instead, gen wars make up the bulk of /vp/.
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>>28524144
Maybe it is but all i did was redistribute pixels from an online game.
There's no need for that to follow me for the next few days even if i switch up accounts.
Even if you do think so people have stated more reasons on why ID's shouldn't be on this board.
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>>28524035
How? If the character is from pokemon then it's related. We might as well ban art threads too. It's not about the pokemon, it's about the art. Then while we're at it ban leak threads. The leak could be fake, ergo it might have nothing to do with pokemon. As long as the topic of discussion has a link to pokemon then I don't see why it shouldn't be on this board.

People on /vp/ come because they really like pokemon. Even if they want lewds, they want pokemon lewds. Something that wouldn't get much recognition on another board. If it was just about the lewd they'd be somewhere else. So obviously the character has relevance. So regardless of where the discussion leads, its still a discussion about a character from pokemon. And if a thread about a character from pokemon doesn't belong on VP, then all threads might as well get banned and the board eradicated.
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/vp/ is so slow, there's no reason to delete anything. I actually believe in free speech
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>>28524154
I wonder if this is how people trying to establish a new government feel like.
>>28524185
The problem of where expressing one's rights and where that would infringe on the rights of others. Like how yelling fire in a crowded theater or lying under oath.
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>>28524225
I agree with the exception of poketuber and pokemon e-celeb threads
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>>28524210
but lewds outside of lewds threads are often really derailing. i could compromise if we all agree not to post lewds in discussion threads or what have you, but i don't think it'll happen. and often the damage is done by the time its posted...
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>>28524185
As far as shitposting goes there already a rule that gets enforced when a mod can't find any other reason to ban you.

I agree with you though that most of the posts people would ban for "shitposting" is them just being big babies and thinking pokemon is serious business.
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>>28524044
oh no a scammer got caught and received punishment and now regrets his decision because nobody will play with him any longer

what a tragic loss
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Maybe there doesn't need to be a /vp/. Why does Pokemon get special treatment when other franchises that have tv, film and videogames don't?
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>>28524289
because /vp/ shitted up /v/ back in the day so /vp/ is literally the result of needing its own containment board
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Man you newfags dont even know how shit this board used to be

Fuck off to reddit if you dont like shitposting
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>>28524210
I guess it's an argument about what Pokemon-related means. I don't really consider waifu and pokemen threads to be Pokemon-related, so I just hide them. We can't really get rid of them since I think we all agree they'd just spill into other threads.

I am more referring to when they are substantially just about artdumps and fetishes and not about Pokemon except for being tangentially about a Pokemon character, or about lewds.
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>>28524313
why cant they just go to /h/ or /e/ like other similar fandom threads tho?
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>>28524246
So if some guy posts "FIRE" in your thread you're gonna go in a mass panic and get trampled.
This is the fucking internet, unless someone is threatening your life and has doxxed you you're being a whiny bitch.
Get real, you just want to silence the opinions of others while pushing yours.

Everyone has the right to their own opinions, no matter how shitty they are.
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>>28522971
No one reports anymore because as anyone whos actually reported threads in the past can tell you it just gets you banned
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>>28524326
Those boards are for hardcore and ecchi content
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>>28524310
But Reddit is all about shitposting, newkid.
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>complaints about erotic images

how long have you guys been posting here
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Ban:
Daily threads posted without any theme or purpose at all (ash lost the league again frogshitposting). This also applies to shitty "yokai watch pic, remember you could be getting these, be grateful for what you have" posts

Allow:
Hungermon threads, seriously there's nothing wrong with them
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>>28524225
You sure?
>>28515862
>>28494170
>>28517372
>>28523636
>>28523849
>>28516587
>>28522525
I'm not going to go through the whole catalog because I'm too lazy, but as you can see /vp/ is just shitposting and stagnation and the mods do fuck all about it. /vp/ is doomed without mods because you'll have a deluge of furfags and fetishfags, but it's also doomed if it has the same mod for too long as the mod will just get used to the shit and lazy and let it stagnate.

This is not just for /vp/, but all boards with different challenges to face of course.
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>>28524344
How is most of the content mentioned not /e/ material?
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>>28524359
I bet you would know
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>>28524343
As someone who reports dozens of posts a day, I will say I've gotten warned and banned a few times and it's always been for reporting things that are against the rules. Those mods definitely need to be looked at, but I can't really bring it up anywhere. But considering the amount of reports I make, it's a small percentage.
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>>28524381
no nudity
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>>28524393
all pokemon are nude. ecchi doesnt even need to mean nude.
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>>28524373
The last one I wouldn't really include.

It is an observation to make. It's a sun legendary, yet weak to fire. That is funny.
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>>28524274
Fine how about someone who gave away some rare TCGO cards in that very thread and now there are salty people and beggars spamming every account he owns due to the ID's.

Does that noble person deserve to be shunned away?
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>>28523727
Literally, all we need is /fur/. And to all those opposed to the idea, I hate furries too, but it'll give them a fair game here. They have their place, we have ours.

Let's be clear, it's very specific interest that either you like it, or you hate it. It's not like poketubers or anime where we just ignore what we don't care for. And let's be clear, even the most bare sexualization should be banned from /vp/, eg. feet, bully, waifu, "would you", etc, etc. Anything even suggestively sexual should be restricted with an iron fist.
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>>28523284
No fuck off
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>>28524433
I honestly can't decide if we need /fur/ or if we need another april fur's day.
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>>28524210
Holy shit, her back brake isn't attached to the frame at all!
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>>28524433
We already have /trash/.
Not even joking. It's where pretty much all the furry stuff is, except for the constant furry threads on /b/ as well.
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>>28524443
Trash is literally fur dude
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/vp/ has too many waifu/fetish threads, I believe they need to be cleaned off the board, the latter as a higher priority than the former.

E-celeb threads should definitely go. I'm in favor of a /celeb/ board to contain E-celeb discussion as a whole, because /vp/ is not the only board on 4chan with this problem.


I don't have as much to complain about as I used to, though. My biggest pet peeve with /vp/ was the RP threads, and we've fortunately wiped them all off the board. /ggvp/, the worst of the waifu threads by far, is also gone. If we had more consistent moderation, with less blind spots, I would call /vp/ an average, decent board now.

>>28523727
I am highly, highly against that. Go to 8gag if you want to look at pokeporn, because their Pokémon board is nothing but that.

>>28524433
We have /fur/, it's called /trash/.
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>>28523874
Ill give you that it tries to build a 'consensus' among users; something that never has or ever will happen on 4chan ever, at least for the majority of boards and anons on here, but Hiro says a lot of things. If he doesn't just ignore/contradict it immediately he just does the same thing he was gonna do anyways. Which is usually nothing. Which is usually after he doesn't read 99% of any thread he posts. Just look at the one that has over 1k replies now. Hiro didn't read anything. Yet that ban evading spammer from /a/ keeps posting like he thinks he'll get anyone to listen. While he argues with 50 people about inane shit. While that annoying guy from /o/ goes on about inane shit as well. While people from /v/ and /vg/ bitch about all sorts of shit, and then fags from other chans come in just to shit in the thread. And also gamergate shit, yet again.

It's a nice idea but Hiro doesn't do anything. If you browse other boards you should also know this by now. Once every 5, 6 months he comes in, makes a thread, posts once more, leaves and never comes back, and nothing changes. All you get is permission to have a meta thread (which is usually shitty) that lasts for a thousand posts or so while every spammer, memey kid, regular browser, and cross poster all spam shit you've already read before.
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>>28524416
Here's the thing though, it's been posted every day, often multiple times per day, since we found out Solgaleo was a Steel/Psychic type. It's like if someone made a thread everyday about Slowpoke/Slowbro/Sloking being faster than some pokemon.
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>>28524463
Its also where theres a 24/7 gardevoir thread up.
Seriously, those faggots need to go there.
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/vp/ would be extremely boring if there wasn't some shitposting every now and then, or furry threads made as satire. There would be like 2 people overall posting. I mean I'm not saying allow furry threads, but having one be deleted after some time has passed isn't so bad.
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>>28524473
I have been advocating a /cel/ board for ages now. I don't understand why we don't get it considering we get the most useless shit like /qst/ or /gd/

It would help /vp/, /v/, /vg/, /tv/ and probably other boards too
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>>28524373
It's not as if these threads are pushing "quality" threads out to be fair. Asside from spamming I think whatever /VP/ posts about besides NSFW material should be permitted. If all the thread types people have noted were gone, the board wouldn't be any faster/be more quality. There would just be less threads at any given time.

In other words, it would be more boring. And isn't the point of /vp/ besides pokemon to have fun?

I'd also like to note this is such a pleasantly civil and discussion heavy thread. It warms my sheer cold blasted heart
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>>28522699
I personally think having poster Id's would really help the board, since it'd help cut back on samefaggers
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>>28523368
>Threads full of gardevoir with tits (this makes it auto furry).


You dumbass, tits on a gardevoir does not make it furshit.
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>Rayquaza thread
>turns out to be a stealth vore thread
I'm still upset about it
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>>28524516
I never understood giving Gardevoir tits anyway, flat is better
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>>28524516
>this much denial
anyway who gives a shit, it needs to go
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>>28524516
Anthro, call it whatever you want.
Its still against the rules and you still worship a drawing.
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>>28524490
So long as the board doesn't have high moderator turnover, it's definitely possible to build a consensus with and among them. We can just ignore Hiro, and as you said, honestly only using his post as a reason to allow these kids of meta threads to exist.
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>>28524551
It's only against the rules if it's porn senpai.
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/vp/ is too slow for there to be a need to really delete much

Consider that right now the last thread alive on page 2 hasn't had a post in over TWO whole hours and it's still up there. That's definitely a long time.

With that said, we don't need to prune because of "we're losing good threads to shitposts!" reasons, we only need to get rid of actual trash that shouldn't be here

Which is pretty much just
1. off topic shitposts (duh)
2. porn/furry threads
3. poketuber and other poke e-celebrity threads
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Get IDs.

>multiple fake posters in general threads
>filter IDs that go against threwad rules rather than making a big deal
>helps injector fags or draw fags find who is who and prevent overrequesting or continuous shitposting.

The 4chan ID system is what made other boards of 4chan actually bearable.
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>>28524416
OP of that thread detected. I'm going to take the obvious bait here.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/%22SUN%20LEGENDARY%22/type/op/
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/illegal%20hawaii/type/op/

>>28524443
>>28524433
A good few months ago Hiro was considering making /fur/ to remove them from /trash/, I managed to get him to reply to me (can't find archive because I don't know if it's still alive).
I told him that making /fur/ would sell out 4chan by bringing in more traffic and great attraction for advertisers of furfag merchandise, I told him that 4chan has a general disdain of furfags which is why they're global banned except from /trash/, bringing more in would destroy 4chan culture and upset many long-term users.
He responded saying he actually cares about 4channers and I like to think I had a part in stopping an actual /fur/ being made.

But now, seeing how he responded in the /qa/ thread linked in the OP I don't think he cares anymore, and just wants to maintain a status quo with very little effort, leaving everything to his mods which he refuses to check up on and see if the board is content with how they're moderating and if they're moderating well.
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>>28524559
not sure why I wrote 2 when I meant page 10, but yeah, I meant page 10

>>28524562
thread IDs would probably be good, yes
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>>28524556
No.
Go ahead and read global rule 3 again, go ahead.

Now do you understand or are you one of thse delusional garde fags?
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>>28524609
we also have a "you will not shitpost" rule

imagine if that one was actually applied
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>>28524072
But they are often sexualized parts. If they're pronounced in a suggestive manner, it's sexualization. Let's cut the shit, give an example that when would there be anytime that an image focusing on the mouth or feet aren't about being a fetish? I can't think of anyway it isn't.
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>>28524562
Whats a fake poster?

And just because you help people out with requests in places like wifi general and are an injector doesn't mean you should have id's to stop that.
As long as they tell the people requesting said pokemon its injected it should be fine.
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Hungermon tread should be allowed if it don't screw up, i got an warning about participating in one. And the Tailposter is still not IP-Ban...
Pic releated
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>>28524654
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>>28524654
This is the kind of case where I feel it ceases to be about Pokemon and is more about the fetish.

Even if feet aren't against the rules or nsfw, if a thread is just about feet, it isn't really a Pokemon thread, is it? Even if they're all Pokegirls/boys/Pokemon, it's not about Pokemon. It's about feet.
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>>28524635
Yeah and we all violate rule #8 just by posting in this thread.
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>>28524654
How about we just don't start trying to argue over each and every single image and whether it sexualizes anything or doesn't?

How about we just ban outright nudity/porn and keep it at that? Christ.
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>>28524677
>Hungermon tread should be allowed i
It's confined to /trash/ now I'm afraid.
>And the Tailposter is still not IP-Ban...
He evades every ban the mods throw at him.
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>>28524609
Aren't Pokémon already anthropomorphic?
Like Blaziken is more humanoid than a real-world chicken.
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>>28524425
Do you even know how ID's work?
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>>28524425
Like it's been said before, IDs only last for a single thread. Beggers can be pointed out and filtered, ignored, or reported, and if someone posts something in an image that leads back to an email or a traceable account then they were gonna get flooded with beggars anyway, even if the thread didn't have IDs. Once the thread is gone everyone gets another chance if they've done something moronic.
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>>28524694
>He evades every ban the mods throw at him.
Someone need to take care of him. He's a sicked fuck

Also, Why Global Rule 3 is on here? Some pokemon are Anthro anyways.
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>>28524688
Hiro gave us a free pass, if he hadn't done so this thread would have 404'd before the first reply.
>>>/qa/668184
>>>/qa/668190
>>>/qa/668450
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>>28524210
We can keep lewds/suggestive/sexualization of pokemon/pokegirls as long as it is contained. And by that I don't mean a thread for specific girls/mons. Furry general, and Waifu general, or something like that, you get the picture. This board is to overrun with tons of threads with this garbage.
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>>28523459
Okay, I will say as I like. I very much hate how someone can come after board specific topics just because he spouts, "I want to protect /vp/ from corruption." As if /vp/ is pure, he deserves to be perma-banned whenever he shows up doing his crap.
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>>28524706
They are but once you put tits on a pokemon that doesn't have them it crosses the line.

I'm not making shit up here, all the tits on a pokemon pictures get deleted within due time.
And i personally learned this lesson the hard way when i got banned once for violating global rule 3 when i posted a busty pokemon as a joke.
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>>28524687
What is pokemon to you? Is it the creatures, or the franchise? Is a thread about crappy tile sprites in the gen 3 games is that permissible? I'm not being facetious or anything I'm just curious. Even things like a thread about new pokemon nendroids tread the line from that type of viewpoint.
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>>28524741
I think it's a joke in this case
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>>28524765
So you would be allowed to have images of Jynx, Nidoqueen, and Miltank with breasts, no for other ones?
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>>28524751
>goes after the threads that shouldn't really be on this board.
From this point of view. What if he's going after a heathy tread like Phox Friday?
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>>28524609
Furry expressly refers to traditional anthropomorphic creatures. An anthropomorphic dog is furry, an anthropomorphic lizard is furry, etc.

Thus, things like lucario are furry. And things like lilligant, or gardevoir, or meloetta, while unquestionably anthropomorphic, are not.
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>>28524363
That doesn't have any connection to whether or not we ever wanted to accept it shitting up the board. It's always been a problem, and we never got used to it.
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>>28524794
The pokemon should be as designed, no added features to make them even more anthropomorphic as it goes borderline furry.

>>28524815
>And things like lilligant, or gardevoir, or meloetta, while unquestionably anthropomorphic, are not.
When you add tits, they are.
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>>28524714
>>28524720
The threads last too long on /vp/.

Fucking hell mods if you re actually watching this thread please don't listen to these people.
They'll fuck it up for people who like doing things like filling request anonymously.
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>>28524802
Tails comes for all that is impure.
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Who IS Richard anyway?
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>>28524768
Pretty much anything in the franchise: the Pokemon, the characters, the locations, the lore, ideas, fakemon, mechanics, fangames.

I guess it boils down to the thread's topic (what it is about) versus its subject (what it contains), which in /vp/'s case, must be Pokemon. I want the topic to be Pokemon, not just the subject.
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>>28524815
Fuck off, Gardefag. Your shit waifu is furry like the rest of them
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The only thing that shouldn't be on /vp/ is
1. straight up porn/nsfw
2. threads about some random poke youtuber who tweeted something
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>>28524837
If you support the tailsposter, you are the problem
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>>28524832
Shut up, huge faggot.
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>>28524745
They exist but it's not every thread. And imo a furry general/waifu general would not have the space for such a wide net of topics. That or nobody would go to them anyway as if you're just interested in pokemon furrys/waifus you'd probably be pretty uninterested in the 99% of other topics.
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>>28524815
Every time one of you faggots show up its like talking to a brick wall.
I wasn't in favor of sending you to >>>/trash/ but now i remember why people want you off this board.
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>>28524833
>They'll fuck it up for people who like doing things like filling request anonymously
Oh yeah man, all two per week. You do realize that if threads move slowly, it's because posters post slowly too, right?
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>>28524830
Tits does not make something furry, anon. Adding a snout would make something furry.
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>>28523719
This.

Ban:
>Waifu/Gardevoire threads
>e-celeb threads
>Furry threads
>Shitty fake leaks (If you're going to troll, at least put some fucking effort into it.)
>Obvious off-topic shit
>Obvious spam threads

Unban:
>Hunger memes
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>>28524830
Thats a pretty big limiting factor for artistic freedom. Just drawing the pokemon as is verbatim is boring and a bit of an unrealistic expectation.
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>>28524893
You know what go ahead and beg for ID's, none of them are really justified.
I'll put faith in the mods on this one.
If /v/ hasn't gotten ID's yet, what are the chances /vp/ will get them?
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>>28524917
>unban hunger memes

you were so close
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>>28524899
What about a bird that has the mouth structure of a bird and the torso of a bird, but has elongated plantigrade legs and has finger-like feathers on the ends of the wings and unbirdlike eyes?
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>>28524373
It seems our priority is the moderation first, then work it down from there.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11226146
Results will be shown to Hiro if it calls for a change
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>>28524899
(You)
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>>28524921
Posting sexualisation of Pokémon should be a bannable offence. SFW or not.
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>>28524845
I can see you're point. Imo I think those types of threads are still at their core pokemon related but I won't deny the issue of being only tangentially related.
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>>28524665
>whats a fake poster

We've had a lot of ppl pretending to be others or responding to discussions with false requests or changes to requests, and we have no idea of how to stop it. Like if someone asked for a thing and another person responds to that post saying "oh actually remove this and change this," the person sending stuff gets confused or the process just becomes inefficient. ppl who are active do use trip codes but the difficulty is that the ppl who want a request are usually fucked with.

I dont understand why ppl wouldnt want an ID. it prevents samefagging too. what is the argument for not having them?
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>>28524921
Just like people who make wild life art?
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>>28524977
So you would ban +75% of the board?
Someone post the strawpol please
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>>28524977
Posting sexualization of humans from Pokémon should be a bannable offense. SFW or not.
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>>28525007
>>28524977
rip /vp/, 90% of all posts gone
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>>28524989
Trips exist for this purpose. If you're an artist, mandate trips on requests. If you're requesting, just use a trip. Do it enough and it'll catch on.
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>>28524977
>Safe for work sexualization
You what?
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>>28524977
But why should it be? What exactly makes it unfit for /vp/? If it's sfw how does it hinder anyone besides making some people irritated that it exists?
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>>28524463
>>28524466
>>28524473
Then let's push for the rules to crack down on making sure all the sexual content is contained to /trash/ and not allowed remaining on /vp/
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>>28525015
>implying that's a bad thing
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>>28524989
>what is the argument for not having them?
>>28524044
>>28523832
>>28523710
>>28523649
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>>28525015
>rip /vp/, 90% of all posts gone

And the problem is?...
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>>28525033
no more need for 10 pages
we'd get by with just 2 pages
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>>28525024
Tits on Gardevoir for example, no nipples means it's SFW.
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>>28524991
That's a job. Art threads are not something so official. They are a place for practice and fun.
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>>28525046
It would kill the board?
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>>28524989
>>28525042
And just want to point out that trips are a thing so use them if you're stumped on this matter.
No need to force ids when we dont need em.

>b-but muh samefaging
one can easily get on their phone and post at the same time to samefag
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>>28525030
Certain posters have a particular issue with escalation.
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NEEDS TO GO

>youtuber/eceleb threads
>furry threads
>off-topic threads obviously
>hunger games (can't even believe that I need to mention this)
>furry threads (this is a blue board after all)

There /vp/ is fixed.
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>>28525057
If it doesn't have nipples and you say that is worksafe, then there isn't an issue with it existing.
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Allow hunger games ffs, it's pokemon related and is actual fun, Oh wait I forgot /vp is no fun allowed and waifu wars is still a thing that goes unbanned :^)
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>>28524837
>>28524863
You are what is wrong on /vp/, we don't want you here, you don't like it here. Why don't you do something that is win/win, leave and never return.
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>>28524997
>>28525015
I'm willing to make that sacrifice to prevent stagnation.

>>28525007
See above, although I frequent waifufag threads I would purge them of sexualised images in an instant.

>>28525030
It attracts furfags and makes them feel at home, their home is /trash/.

Pokemon are what pokemon are, drawing one in a different art style is fine even gijinkas (provided it's not just a girl in a bikini or bloke in speedos coloured like a pokemon), but altering the pokemon's appearance to fit your desires (>>28525057) needs to be purged.
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>trying to change the definition of furry because you don't like a pokemon
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>>28524977
If a sexualized pokemon should be banned on what I assume to be the grounds of it being offensive to you, then "faggot", "nigger", and "greedy jew" are all words/phrases that should be banned as well. You can't just cherry pick the "offensive" things for your own personal taste. Everyone needs to be considered. Honestly furry content shouldn't even be delegated to trash IMO but thats a whole other can of worms.
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>>28522699
Daily reminder a porn thread REACHED BUMP LIMIT on this board sometimes ago.
IT FUCKING REACHED BUMP LIMIT.
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At least we can all agree that ID's are necessary
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>>28523719
>The anime general is a good example of an extremely high percentage of shitposts, but I think the mods and janitors gave up on them. I have noticed a bit less due to Serena being dropped though, let's hope those posters just migrate away.
Fucking this Those threads can be up to 70% pure shitposts at times, and everybody knows it's the same two or three autists that sit there literally all day doing nothing but shitpost bait and pasta to derail any attempts at actual discussion. And if reporting it doesn't get you banned, it rarely gets the shitposts deleted until hours later, and then the shitters just ban evade and keep going.
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>>28525137
Sure with anyone defending how the tailsposter goes about his business but i agree with the gardevoir hate
Judging from their threads it seems alot more people agree
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>>28525177
This is just so dumb.

The people you're trying to out with IDs are the same people that would just bypass that shit every time.

It isn't going to help, you fucking dumb bitch.
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>>28525177
I wouldn't say necessary, no.
Guess they wouldn't hurt, but not needed.
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>>28524683
If the pokemon is naturally like that, it's one thing. If they aren't naturally and still pronounced, that's the point I was getting at.

But lets say someone posted an Exploud with big puffy moist lips with a certain look in it's eyes. You know that's suggestive and is just more sexual shitposting.
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>>28523649
>IDs would deanonymise people in recurring threads

This is /vp/, by putting IDs, you in fact cull the unnecessary ppl who spout opinions that otherwise would get their asses kicked in real life. /vp/ shouldn't be a place to keep anonymity even if you're someone who highly contributes and wishes to remain anonymous, if your work is well perceived than staying anonymous should be the last thing on your mind.

Do you know how hard it is to fucking use /vp/ without seeing literally 25% of /pol/ or /b/ flying around here? Theyre the ones who need to stay anonymous with obscenities, /vp/ is literally like 200 posters total, why are we being anonymous if we literally bump into each other each day.

>the speed of the threads on /vp/ do not justify ID usage for thread-specificity

You know mods can easily implement thread independent IDs that change our ID each thread we use even if we post on multiple threads? It's not a hard system to implement, it'll take experimentation tho.

Just as a PSA though for everyone about the underage posting and le trolls - you're right, an ID wont fix that, but it helps threads when u can filter the unnecessary, we shouldn't have to force ppl to use trip codes if they dont want to, thats even less anonymity than the ID system.
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>>28525137
t. Assmad Gardefag
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>>28525152
Technically those are banned according to the rules but that is rarely enforced.
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>>28525151
> Furry don't even have a definition

>>28525167
Holy Arceus

>>28525186
The anime general wasen't supposed to be deleted if Ash lose the league again?

Also Tailposter sympatist need to go away from here
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>>28525207
Agreed and I'm this poster posting >>28525207 on his mobile phone.
On a board with ids we would look like different people, even though we're not.
Then its just a matter of resetting the phone to make it look like theres a third person when its still just that same one.
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>>28525151
>trying to ignore the definition of furry because you are attracted to Gardevoir
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>>28524553
I suppose I really do agree with you there. Some people may dislike it, but that's really the only way we'll see any change we can't affect ourselves (in the way many generals are insular, /a/ shitposts specific threads that are crappy on the catalogue, that kind of stuff we can accomplish as users) is by hopefully having an oldfag mod and janitor on the side of the community to try and improve it. As crappy as some boards have it, like I said, we kinda have to hedge our bets on that, not Hiro.
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>Gardevoir generals get deleted
>Wicke generals are somehow ok
It's just people spamming the same porn links with little to no real discussion.
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>>28525207
And so the current system of letting them run rampant instead of forcing them to recycle their IP every post if they want to avoid being identified is okay with you?
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/wfg/ and /ekx/ poster here.

Can we fucking have decent moderation in these threads? A particular autist likes to shit up /wfg/ with injection requests, while draining traffic from /ekx/. It's getting to the point that many of the oldfags who have stuff that's worth trading and giving out just leave and don't come back.
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>>28525148
Pic related. A fan art I've seen a lot of praise for. I can see why. It's pretty cool. But note charizard's physique. It's particularly muscular. Imo not an issue, it's just more aesthetically pleasing for the artist. If one wouldn't lambast that then I don't see why they should lambast other alterations of the depiction of a pokemon. Even if you are not a fan, there's no reason to punish those who are.

But with what you are saying, things like this shouldn't logically be permitted on the board either.
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>>28525246
>Holy Arceus
Oh yeah, and ban people who do this too.
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What needs to be absolutely gone?
>Youtube/eceliberty threads.
>Off-topic threads.
>Tailsposter
>pepe poster

What needs to be modified, but after modification can stay.
>any pokemon centered thread (gardevoir threads, lucario threads, ect.)
These really don't have to go because nothing is wrong with them to begin with from face value, but nsfw pictures and maybe single days for particular pokemon centric threads need to be implemented.
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Ban any and all cheating (injecting etc.) from wi-fi general and permaban those people who do it there
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>>28525257
Specific pokegirl threads should be removed, a general pokegirl thread should be maintained or made once a week or fortnight.

>>28525268
It's a minor detail, I'm talking radical changes.
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>>28525261
I'm only going to support decisions that actually solve problems.

Not half assed attempts at solutions like muh IDs.
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>>28525274
really? Pepole need to check their priorities

>>28525282
This
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>>28525284
Or just remove the one injectorfag.
Pretty sure the thread would improve massively from that alone.
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>>28525229
>/vp/ shouldn't be a place to keep anonymity even if you're someone who highly contributes and wishes to remain anonymous, if your work is well perceived than staying anonymous should be the last thing on your mind.

I don't think you understand why anonymous image boards are a thing and you obviously don't understand the culture.
If you want something to identify your posts with reddit is right around the corner, and i dont even mean that as a meme, you honestly sound like you'd like their philosophy better.
You know where to go.
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I HATE GENERALS

THE PEOPLE THAT LIKE AND SUPPORT GENERALS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT MIGRATED FROM REDDIT

ITS JUST TO KEEP THE FORMAT THEY WERE USED TO

I HATE GENERAL THREADS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>28525294
And breast-like structures are a radical change?
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>>28525299
Then how would you solve that problem, if IDs wouldn't work?
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>>28525186
That's an issue 4chan has always had, though. It was like that on every board I've ever been on, back in 2007, still in 2012, and still true today. It's likely nothing that'll ever get solved completely. Anons have to band together an at least try to eradicate it. If they can't, then ignoring it until it is deleted is the only way. People aren't capable of that, though, and some newfag always will be there to try and shit up threads trying to argue with those people.

We've had a lot of janitor drives lately. A lot more than in the past. Honestly, going by moots old post of how many volunteers he had (what, it was like 80, and that doesn't count the amount who've left since then) I doubt there's more than one mod and one janitor per board, on average. I'm sure /a/, /b/, /v/ and so on have more, but there's always gonna be an issue of shitposts staying up for a long time. You can see the ebb and flow on some boards. Report one shitpost at a specific time on /v/ and it's gone in half a second and the guy is already back evading, bitching in the thread. Then later on, maybe a post gets reported out the ass and stays up for an hour. Sadly it's just one of the drawbacks a place like 4chan will struggle with.
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>>28525282
This. Phoxfags are better than Gardefags for this exact reason. They keep it to one day a week.
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You fucking "people" are more worried about fucking hunger games bullshit than you are about the state of the board.

Just unreal.
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>>28525332
would you rather every single person make their own showdown or "hey guys I need x" thread?
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>>28525268
you know that's not what he means, and if you genuinely don't i am worried for you
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>>28525332
Bring back Pokémon General
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>>28525284
>ban anyone not playing the pokemon games my way
I bet you're one of the faggots who wants IDs.
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>>28525294
a general pokegirl thread would not last more than an hour, and it'd be a shitshow
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>>28525346
I don't know. I never said I did.

That doesn't mean IDs are the right thing.
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>>28525351
Gardefags Try to, but get shitposted by tail posters and garyposters nonstop so you have to make a new thread to get a discussion.
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>>28525294
Yeah it's a minor detail to you but maybe to bara bashers not so much. Big lips or big feet aren't overall a massive change either, but these are things people get up in arms about. I'm just trying to advocate equality and fairness.

Either allow whatever or ban the board to vanillamon.
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>>28525386
I didn't say that.
If you want to cheat, stick to the cheating thread.

wifi general is not for cheating, does not condone it, never had and never will.

it's that simple. keep them separated.
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>>28525024
Same concept
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>>28525386
>Force my way of playing onto people who don't want it
Go to /ekx/ if you want injections, simple as that.
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>>28525357
They're concerned more about the precedents set than the particular thread itself.
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>>28525195
You really are new, the majority of the posts love the threads. The minority is vocal, but mainly disruptive and raid centric. Also, you would see the same from other pokemon centric threads. No amount of hate is warranted when they have a topic that is legal on the board.
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>>28525400
Don't try playing the victim here, gardefags.

Theres 3 years worth of gardevoir threads being literal shit shows that the fan base does itself.

Are you going to tell us Blow Man did nothing wrong next?
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>>28525364
But that's not what it is anymore.

It's just shitposters and circlejerking tripfags.

When people post shit like "goodnight wicke general!~", it's no longer a thread and instead is now some kind of psuedochatroom/irc.
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>>28525371
Of course it's not what you mean. I'm pointing it out because it's the same thing, and considering it otherwise I feel is hypocritical. You don't consider it in the same category of offense because it doesn't offend you I would assume.
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>>28525394
What's the point in disagreeing if you don't hav answer
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>>28525405
>>28525340
Waifufags and barafags are one and the same.
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>>28525167
That happens from time to time. Nothing new. Either jannies aren't active at all, and when they are, they delete the wrong things.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11226146
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>>28525466
Forgot pic
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>>28525466
So if they don't post NSFW images they should be allowed.
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>>28525433
It's not even about pokemon though!

It's just random images depicting pokemon and they don't even always depict pokemon.

What the fuck does hunger games have to do with Pokemon?

I mean I'd get it if the survival shit was based on the pokemon's abilities or stats or fucking something but it isn't.

It's just a fucking random ass game.

So by that logic, I should be able to play some fucking chess or bingo or hell even some poker as long as the chess pieces or cards or whatever depict some bastardization of a pokemon
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>>28525246
>The anime general wasen't supposed to be deleted if Ash lose the league again?
Why would a general get deleted because something happened in a TV show? Are you drunk?
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>>28525456
What?
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>>28525456
WHAT?

WHAT???!??!?!

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??!??

I DON"T NEED AN ALTERNATIVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU.

ITS LIKE I'M IN A TWILIGHT ZONE EPISODE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>28525441
m8, this is the last garde thread that wasn't just out right deleted

>http://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/28490592

i can show you more where people express how much they dislike them, i can even show you ones where the "haters" as they say where all removed and the gardevoir fan base just continued to fling shit at each other
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>>28525502
No only see it on a tread, but i suppose now that was a shitpost
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This is a non /vp/ exclusive thing, but if someone tried making a thread with their image titled image.png/jpg

I feel board quality would go up
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>>28525488
Exactly, if it is safe enough to post in the classroom of a 5th grade teacher. It should be allowed.
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>>28522886
This guy basically gets it. We have enough Options to hide threads and posts we don't agree with or dislike.

That being said, I would really appreciate mods moderating WiFi General properly and get rid of injectorfags being harmful and vile, though.
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>>28525351
>actual furfags better than gardefags

I've heard everything now
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Give me a (You) if you want to ban the roleplayers forever.
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>>28525540
*they should be rejected
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>>28525349
Yeah, but we're talking about a couple autists that have been sitting there for up to 15 hours straight doing nothing but shitpost and spam the same pasta every day, and you still usually get banned for trying to report it. It's bad.
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>>28525555
yep
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>>28525558
Come on the Phox tread poster are nice, they don't shitpost about their waifu
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>>28524899
its anthropomorphism, its furry
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>>28525561
It's rightfully yours.
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1. all low effort 'leakers' should be banned. Particularly the people who post display boxes or printouts in game cases. Just dropping a list with no real evidence to support it and claiming it's insider info should be bannable, conjecture and prediction attempts are fine but stop fucking pretending you're an epic meme leaker.

2. forum games should be banned and remain banned.

Honestly I feel the moderation quality has gotten better here, they used to be much more uptight about questionable pokegirl pics (ie outline of vag/nippes showing got you banned sometimes) which was annoying, but honestly it's a lack of bans that make the board worse, not too many arbitrary bans like on /lit/ where you get globally banned for having a different opinion than the female moderator.

I have no real issue with this board other than how the other day there was a janny deleting threads about questionable sexual communications between pokemon showdown moderators and minors which is actually an important issue of discussion, much more so than that furry youtuber's shit meme sets. That seems to have been a one off though as I made a thread complaining about said thread deletions with a justification as to why the topic was completely valid and pertinent to the board and it remained open.
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>>28525497
>Not using the net to play Pokémon Monopoly
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>>28525486
This guy gets it, musculature like on the far left is fine because it holds onto the original shape or "anatomy" and clearly wasn't created for someone to get off to. But when artists put way too much emphasis on a particular part (or change the shape of it too drastically) it's kind of transparently a fetish. Like mouths and feet.
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This is wierd. We're having a discussion
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>>28525530
And I can show you topics made by the vocal minoriry to give the fans a black eye. Was this from the Saturday thread? Because if it wasn't it was probably made by the exact people who want to give the fans a bad reputation.
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>>28525532
Of course it was a shitpost. Why would anyone think it wasn't?
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If you sexualize pokemon, it's furry shit.

It's just that simple.
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>>28525555
Ban Sarah/Injectorfag 2016
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>>28525593
Furry characters are anthropomorphic, but it is not anthropomorphism alone that makes them furry.

ie
>an anthro oaster
>furry

And for that one anon that says adding tits makes something furry
>girls become furry after they hit puberty
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>>28525466
>>28525561
>>28525558
The shit posters are coming home from school/uni. I guess this thread is dead now.

Anyway, as long as redundant threads/nsfw content gets deleted then I think /vp/ is as enjoyable as it can be.
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>>28525558
They are by my book.
Furries while degenerate in their own nature at least create new art in their community, aren't obnoxious little picks, and can admit that they aren't all seeing and ever knowing.

Gardefags are worse than that, the furries should make an honorable mention on furpedia devoted to you and your crew titled "At least we aren't them"
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>>28525394
And I don't see how it can be a problem. You post something you don't want following you? Reset your IP and go on your way. If you're trying to samefag for (You)s and you keep refreshing your IP to get them, then it'll become really fucking obvious when other people keep the same IDs across the thread. It's better than the current system, even if it's not perfect.
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>remove waifu threads
>remove bara threads
>remove wi-fi general
>allow low quality posts that may be irrelevant but still are SFW
>permaban pony fags on the spot
>permaban non-pokemon image OP threads. Catalog of /vp/ should always fucking be pokemon, if the quality of posts goes to 0 in the thread where ppl do:

>responds to king of the hill image
>says ">Simpsons"
>posts another picture to be misconstrued.

then let it be. im tired of seeing random ass asians or non-pkmn stuff in the catalog.
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Why are we all fighting when we should come up with a way to make the board better
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>>28525540
>>28525566
Not all phoneposters are ban evading shitposters, I phonepost from bed and work from my home and work IP respectively (no computer at work). I have a very small folder of images on my phone so I barely attach an image unless necessary.
Why should I be forbidden from posting from my phone with an on-topic image?

>>28525638
First one you replied to, I've been in the thread from this post right here >>28523734 and I'm not even American or a student.
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>>28525669
>remove wi-fi general

go kill yourself
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>>28525617
You can show me them but you're gonna have to explain

>blue man
>falconier
>maxyvoir
>polyvoir
>gadibou
>the gardevoir discord chat rooms
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Everyone we should unite and come up with a way to remove our common enemy the shitposters
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>>28523719
>he doesn't like pokegirl lewds
>he is so autistic that he browses pokegirl threads just to find porn to report it

Jesus you're a fucking wet blanket.

>>28523727
Fuck no, I don't want to deal with donut and heliolisk posters. Pokegirl lewds should be okay as long as they're not going off into hardcore/pokesexual territory. I'd be okay with nude images so long as they're spoilered for the sake of the people browsing in public/at work.

Like this is what I think is about at the boundary for what should be acceptable here.
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>>28525622
>If you sexualize pokemon, it's furry shit.
So 78% of Vp are furries?
You must be some king of masochist anon
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>>28525669
>Removing /wfg/

Why?
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>>28525677
We are physically incapable of not fighting each other.
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>>28525704
Strawpolls can be rigged.
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>>28525684
I'm saying contributing to threads and using images IN threads are fine, but making a thread with them have a high tendency to be shitposters
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Can't we declare a truce and work together?
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>>28525669
no
no
no
yes
no
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>>28525704
Yeah because those were serious answers.
You're such a fucking autist.
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>>28525677
Because /vp/ is a shitty board where no one can agree on anything

Take a look at the people saying tits on pokemon is not anthro, you cant budge them even though they are dead wrong.
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>>28525656
Encouraging router reset also encourages ban evasion, which makes all moderation need to be reactive and lowers the effectiveness of punishment from undesirable behaviors.
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>>28525704
To be fair probably 90% of the first category have only masturbated to that one picture of Misty fucking her Starmie that literally everyone saw in middle school. Either that or tentacruel/tangrowth doujins where the pokemon is just there because it's a pokemon character that's being tentacle raped.
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>implying IDs wouldn't dramatically improve the quality of the board
It would be a btfo to all the "translators" samefagging to get ebin leak threads rolling
Only shitposters would disagree
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>>28525684
Speaking of phone posters, mods on 4chan in general need to think before they ban people. More often than not they ban entire service providers.
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>>28525723
It had the IP and Robot check.

I'm guessing it wasn't someone a couple hundred times
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>>28525685
>kys
>wahhhh dont kill my edgy threads

wfg is the WORST possible general on this fucking board. manga, anime, game, fuck even the ash generals are better and have less cynicism than wfg.

>MUH FUGGING EGGMOVE PENTAPERFECT (insert OU baby pkmn here)
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>>28525704
Nice addition btw
>>
The users of /vp/ can be shitty and borderline retarded, but I think in terms of how boards go it's actually pretty good. The odd porn here and there which was to be expected really, but otherwise I don't see /vp/ of needing any big changes.

Compared to a number of other boards out there /vp/ is actually pretty on-topic.
>>
E-celeb threads: GONE
Furry threads (including sfw/daily ones like Phox Phriday that try to hide what they really are. Absolutely no tolerance for this): GONE
Waifu/husbando threads: GONE
Leakwar threads: GONE
Gunwar threads: GONE
Shipping threads: GONE

There. /vp/ is now 99% better.
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>>28525756
Good, all phoneposters should be banned, phoneposting is for normies.
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>>28525177
No.
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>>28524839
Was.
I'm pretty sure the original Richar lies in a ditch somewhere.
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>>28525772
more like 99% gone
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>>28525783
You do realise how retarded that is right?
You're basically saying
>hey in a situation where you can't get on your computer or it needs repairs?
>tough shit phones aren't allowed!
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>>28525772
>yes
>let them have their once a week containment thread
>specific ones yes
>Seperated shitposters/samefags
>yeah
>shipping? Where?
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>>28525772
I agree with this 100%

But I'd like to add the HG nonsense.
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>>28525695
Explaing all of the fans isn't possible, but shouldn't be nessary. The same statement still stands, they are a pokemon thread on a pokemon board. If properly moderated to one day thread where they are protected from the idiots and blind haters. They will become as nice as any other pokemon centric thread.
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>>28525669
waifu, bara and wfg threads have been here from the start. If you don't like them, just hide them. If someone's shitflooding with waifus they usually get banned anyways.

wifi general is actually one of the most legitimate uses of this board.
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>>28525829
>he's being a normie and leaving his room
>he gets banned

sounds like the system's working.
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>>28525757
Doesn't matter mate, /wowg/ had a strawpoll about something related to the game and the resident ban evader (a fat gay greek furfag who likes to shit up the thread and mods there do nothing about it for days on end before deleting entire threads to remove his posts) hijacked it in his favour.

It might not have been the same person, but a personal army attack.
Also it doesn't specify what kind of Pokemon in the poll, or how many times or when.
It could have been a humanoid pokemon 4 years ago and never again.
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>>28525761
You are precisely the kind of poster that needs to be banned from this board. An absolute 100% shitposter.
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>>28525745
But that's what happens anyway, with the current method allowing them to continue for a while before getting banned and taking the time out to reset. With IDs they will have to do that every single post to avoid being linked to another, which can be a pain as the effort to shitpost unabated becomes higher.
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>>28525838
You don't want to go into details on the autists that make of the core of those threads?
How convenient.
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Garde, phox, etc. threads need to go.
Leak threads with no proof need to go.
Poke/YouTuber threads need to go.
Serebii hate/dick sucking needs to go.
Trips outside of /wfg/ and related threads needs to go.

No threads for a single pokeperson.
No threads with the "what did they mean by this," "really makes you think," etc. too.
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They should really find a way to prevent samefagging desu guys its getting annoying at this point
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>>28525870
>>he gets banned
That's the problem. I'm not getting banned entire service providers are meaning multiple people are being punished by the actions of one person.

And again, people post on their phones from inside their homes for a plethora of reasons.
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>>28525913
Extend the repost rate frm 60 sec to 300 sec?
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>>28525934
hell no, that destroys discussions or requests/trades
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have mods that

enforce bans on off topic shit
enforce rules prohibiting spam
enforce global 3&6
enforce /vp/ 1&4

users should report any that break the above

board fixed
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>>28525268
Really, I think people just need to go with their instinct on what is or isn't "sexualized." Sometimes I'll see a thread based around a Pokémon and half the posts are varying degrees of anthro (Zoroark threads are pretty bad about this, changing proportions to be more humanlike, adding breasts, etc.), report all of them, and a janitor will get rid of all the most blatant ones and leave some of the more subtle ones. You can't set a hard limit on what crosses the line as "sexual" and just have to play it by ear, and if a mod deletes a lot of them but leaves some that you still personally find too far, you'll just have to accept it since they got almost everything right by your standards.
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>>28525951
Works on /vg/
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>>28525913
There's no real way of doing that.
IDs don't achieve that either seeing as people will just reset their routers.
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>>28525970
/vg/ is a really fast board with people usually contained to one single general
/vp/ is a slow board with few dedicated generals
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>>28525970
This.
I shit post /lolg/ all the time and don't even same fag because of that timer.
If ids is your solution for samefagging you are wrong.
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>>28525229
>This whole post

please stop, running /ekx/ with the other 3-4 injectors left on this site is already hard enough with the 60 second reply or having a population visit our general, having IDs only gonna have others get harassed or not even post for fear of reprisal.
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>>28525891
I don't want to go into the details for the same reason I wouldn't for any other thread on /vp/, if they are centered around pokemon, they belong here. Should I go into details of the "autists" that frequent showderp? Or maybe WiFi general? Or any thread having to do with nuzlock? Simple fact is if the enjoy pokemon, and are willing to obey the rules, they shouldn't be looked down on any more or less then any other topic.
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>>28526013
Billy, you know IDs are thread specific right?

That said, thanks for doing what you do.
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>>28525920
If you don't have a functional 4chan machine you don't deserve to be posting desu
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>>28522886
This

>tfw banned for stating know facts about the difference of each race

Marxist mods are fags, "oh no he's being "racist""
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>>28526018
>and are willing to obey the rules
Well then, lucky for me gardefags break multiple of /vp/'s rules all the time.

When will they be taken care of?

>b-b-but those arent the real fans
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>>28525970
/vg/ doesn't have a 300 sec post timer
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>>28526050
This whole "ree normies" thing has gotten old. It's like a twist on the old cliche that old people don't accept new technology.
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>>28526013
>>28526047
/ekx/ is a recurring thread that stays up for a long time.
I agree with billy here. Even if its just for one thread people dont deserve to get harassed.
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>>28526104
If people are harassing others for doing shit that's the purpose of the thread, they should be banned.

Admittedly, I'm really sure what you and Billy are worried about, what harassment would you even deal with?
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>>28526077
Luckly for you the multiple rule postings can't be tied back to you and those like you. I for one like this ID idea, because for once those who do cause the most chaos would be identified and banned, while true fans of pokemon would enjoy the board as they would like to, while not having to deal with haters.
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>>28526157
>because for once those who do cause the most chaos would be identified and banned
Anon, they WILL just reset and continue shitposting. IDs achieve nothing and /pol/ is proof of that.
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>>28526180
Anon, at least it will help a little bit
Don't say that IDs achieve nothing
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>>28526180
Then how about we do what we always should have done as a board that has access to network info. MAC ban.
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>>28526138
>>28526138
I'm telling you from experience.
There was a general called giveaway general a while ago.
Lots of shitposting around certain givers, not shitposting that should be banned however, things like "your set sucks" or "not shiny, trash"

Eventually people started giving out anonymously instead of with trips to avoid this, they couldn't change their carts names tho (before injecting).
So on a board with ids one could easily identify whos who and just harass them,
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>>28526157
you sound like you're speaking as if you can see IP's, have me confused with someone else :^)

>>28526211
right, lets have people reset their phones to get a new id instead of actually solving the problem
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>>28526211
>Anon, at least it will help a little bit
It won't. Like I said, once they get banned they will just reset and continue posting not to mention most people also have phones and tablets to post from for additional shitposting.
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>>28526253
If we had better moderation, those people would be banned.

Report + Hide is also a very good option.
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>>28526292
We don't, but mods and others do, though with their use of global ip bans, they might not have the ability to MAC ban. Still if they can implement it, it would make the board a haven.
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>>28526361
Telling someone their set sucks isn't a bannable offense.
What shitty former soviet country are you from?

If people dont wanna deal with it and actually post anonymously is another issue.
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The "Pokemon Anime Disscussion Threads" need to be heavily moderated.

At this point in time the discussion thread is pretty much unusable due to the high amount of shitposting, falseflagging, and non-anime related discussion that takes place in it.

The anime threads have devolved into:
>"Waifu" posting
>Image dump and spam
>The same small handful of shitposters who monitor the threads all day posting the same things over and over again
>Those same shitposters replying to their own posts
>Pokegirl Porn posting
>Gore or literal shit picture posting
>Copypastas
>Obvious bait posts to try and make the threads go faster and become less usable
>Posting Pokemon Youtuber links who discuss the anime
>Talking about irrelevant users on other websites like tumblr, serebii forums, or bulbagarden

The little discussion that takes place in the threads usually stops once the shitposters arrive and start interjecting into it.

The anime threads used to be some of the best on /vp/ for quite sometime, but now they're just a shadow of its former self. We go through multiple threads a day, probably one of the top generals that get new threads made each day on /vp/. This wouldn't be the case if there was more moderating the threads to delete the obvious garbage that fills the threads.
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I'd report more things if I didn't have to do a captcha everytime.


Why not just take the captcha shit off for reports only?

Not posts, just reports.
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>>28526322
That's what happens now regardless. Bans have never been a lengthy deterrent for shitposters, ever.
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>>28526416
Thats because what most people consider shit posting is actually a shitty/unpopular opinion that should have its place on this site.
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>>28526401
>Thread is about people requesting shit
>I must enforce proper VGC/Smogon sets.

Are you sure you aren't lost comrade? ))))))
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>>28526481
>someone is giving away sylveons with moonblast
>i tell them sylveon has hyper voice and call him a faggot
>get banned forever because people like you have made it a hug box

Yeah, i must be lost.
Thought this was 4chan and not tumblr / reddit
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>>28526543
>Inject my hot opinions into everyone's discussion

They have a right to ignore you, banning might be a bit much though, you're right.
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>>28525245
>Technically those are banned according to the rules but that is rarely enforced
... shit you're right.
Gonna start reporting all of that shit, it's fucking dumb buzzwords meant to devalue the subject/commenter without actually giving legit critique.
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