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/acg/ - Armored Core General: 20 More Years Edition

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20th anniversary edition.

Old thread: >>182280764

For all newcomers, Armored Core and all JP mecha discussion here. You are welcome to shill western stuff with JP influence.
We can talk about Ace combat as well and puchi posting is fine too.

BEFORE YOU PROCEED LISTEN TO OUR THEME SONG!!!
https://instaud.io/jzI

AC pastebin: http://pastebin.com/z1bJS9gF
Read that if you have any questions. If the pastebin doesn't answer whatever question you may have feel free to ask us in the thread.

/acg/'s partially complete recommendation pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Wjv8sukr

Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/armoredcorevg

/acg/ PLAYS

SCRIMMS
>Ask.

SUNDAY NIGHT FOR ANSWER
>Ask.

SATURDAY AFTERNOON VERDICT DAY
>Ask.

Official Strategy guide PDFs for 2, 3, and Nexus :
http://www.emuparadise.me/magazine-comic-guide-scans/Armored_Core_2_Another_Age_Prima_Official_eGuide/1833
http://www.emuparadise.me/magazine-comic-guide-scans/Armored_Core_3_Prima_Official_eGuide/1635
http://www.emuparadise.me/magazine-comic-guide-scans/Armored_Core_Nexus_Prima_Official_eGuide/2226

AC related cover music: ripped from niconico by risto
https://mega.nz/#!j1l03AjA!beyftPD1gLIsymJC2gdmHpUecO4JHGbg6KdFQNS7htI

Understanding Last Raven technical stuff.
http://pastebin.com/RfbVYwwr

AC Webm and Music collection download.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eh12d8bhn4o5t3p/AC%20Webm.rar?dl=0#
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e43xmgrl76l9bpo/AC%20Music.rar?dl=0
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Looked it up, AC2AA does take place on Earth. My bad.

Also, 4th part of FM4 playthrough is up.

https://youtu.be/V4Rd3ttfcn4
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>>183068484
>Looked it up, AC2AA does take place on Earth. My bad.

It's okay, we all make mistakes. I accidentally copied "20th anniversary edition" from your last thread to this one.
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Third for Gundam being trash and Gungriffon being cash
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>really glad that the thread was more active last time
>kinda not glad that it was because we had a lot of discussion on other mech games, not AC

I am conflicted.
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>>183070847
You can only talk about a series for so long before it breaks into other topics.
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>>183070847
Armored Core, heh, more like Armored Coffin am I right guys?
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>>183070847
You excited for that new AC game?
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The new AC game will star extra-dimensional travel and combat.
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So, anything pleasant? /drg/ is kinda shit today so I will try to be more present.
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>>183079961
ummmm... Armored Core 3 Portable with keyboard and mouse thanks to PPSSPP 1.4.1's mouse support, little janky but not awful.

Garrison: Archangel updated recently and they posted a graphic for a new mech on their twitter https://twitter.com/play_archangel

Rengoku 2 is cool, kind of like a mech game due to the bodypart customization.

No Armored Core news though, not even a Funko Pop.
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>>183080328
>twitter

Boy, just like tumblr and reddit, these are websites I have no idea how they work, glad you could find good stuff on it.
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>>183080676
twitter is an awesome place to find AC news and art because the Japanese use it a lot
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>>183081449

I know, people find good Danganronpa art (and even good porn) as well there, but I have no idea how it works.
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>>183081629
Twitter just lets you take messages from a bunch of different people on the site and organizes it into a single feed for you to read.

If someone is subscribed ("follows") to you, then your messages (tweets) show up on their feed. If you follow them, their messages show up on your feed.

So the idea is that you follow 100+ people that you find interesting, and now you have a constant stream of interesting things to look at and read all day long. Or, if you have interesting things to say, you say it yourself.

The rest of the sites features are just little things on top of that. Like being able to broadcast (tweet) someone else's message to your followers (retweet).or being able to search all the messages.

Searching is where you find good things, because it shows you all the people who mentioned "armored core" around the world recently. You can also limit it to only pictures.

All in all, twitter's pretty simple, they just use dumb names for things that are already called something else.
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>>183082885

Ah, thanks.
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>>183083048
reddit is just a normal forum (post topics, people reply/common) but you use one account for all of the different forums (Armored Core has it's own reddit, Dogs has it's own, etc. You can make your own) instead of going to different web sites for each one.

Reddit's layout is kind of annoying though, just like twitter's terminology
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>>183083675

I see, thank you.
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>>183081449
like to get AC art from pixiv

#アーマードコア
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>>183083675
To add to this, if you ever used Digg back when it was relevant (they had a major layout shift at some point), Reddit is the exact same thing.
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Bamp
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>>183084274
dont you need a account to see anything on pixiv?
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>>183074536
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>>183095552
Do you have a YouTube account or anything that hooks into Google social media site that nobody actually cares about?
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>>183095552
only porn
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You're in the club and Emerald Raccoon slaps your gf's ass

What do?
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>>183070847
Speaking of other mecha games, I've started playing Front Mission on the snes, and I gotta say it's a really good looking game for its time.
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The 3v1 in Zearm Desert is infinitely easier than the 2v1 in Old Gal. Having the room to maneuver and focus down the enemies was much easier in the desert than dealing with two ACs that specialize in close quarters with no room to maneuver.
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>cell service down
>can't log onto steam
>pages loading slowly

PANIC
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>>183097690
nope.
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So I just saw that Kotobukiya put a news on their site with a Fracture kit painted on the 20th anniversary. I can't read jap so don't know what they are talking about.
I really hope they are going to announce something at this Wonfes since they didn't release/rerelease any AC kit this year.
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>>183103625
Don't call it a grave, it's the future newfags chose.
>>183104794
Well, that's the easiest way to sign in to Pixiv. Like Anon said, it gets you access to the 18+ and I also think it lets you see full size pictures.
>>183081629
Does it end up on the boorus?
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QUICK
open up your phone's memo app and draw an armored core RIGHT NOW
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>>183115987
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>>183115987
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>Defend Ruglen Laboratory
>Kill the mysterious AC
>Get A Rank
>Don't get the weapon
wtf

At least Cold Heart survived?
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OH IT'S ON NOW
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Just finished Shut Down Interecine, only have to go through Zinaida and the Final Pulverizer now. This game is too good, I don't want it to end.
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>>183125131
It's actually not on.
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>About to move on from MotA to 2
>Have to leave my trusty T-Rex looking mech behind for good

I can't do it. I can't say goodbye
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>>183130275
Just move on you mongoloid. Great adventure awaits.
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Just full completed AC2AA as part of my beginning to end non H+ playthrough of all Armored Core games. I'll post my completion image and my ACs tomorrow since it's late and I need sleep.

Also, Ultimate Nineball goes down like a bitch.
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>>183135063
im still confused why you label it as non H+ when the norm is non H+
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>>183136130
My original playthroughs used H+ at least for AC1, ACPP, AC2, and AC2AA. And then I used OP-I in 3 and SL, so for me it's non H+. But I see what you mean by that being the norm (or what should be the norm). I guess I just assumed that players used H+ more often than not if it was available.
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>>183136419
I see, good on you for not using H+ tho
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>>183137203
Oh my god, this is fucking gold.

Are you manipulating the skeleton?
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>>183137496
Yeah, slowly figuring out how to get them all exported in T-Pose and without fucked up skeletons but ADAM is alright for goofs.

They're not rigged very well, the left and right arms don't even deform the same way and neither of them do it particularly well.
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>>183137718
Well you did a really good job on that dab pose.

Did you enjoy the fight against Gryphus?

My favorite boss fight is Lycaon who is the 2nd boss.
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>>183138516
I'm sure I enjoyed but I don't remember it. Like it was two days ago? But I don't remember it.

I either kicked his ass really hard or I entered into some sort of manic gamer state. I probably used the jammer head on him to disable his lock-on and dodged a lot while linear motor gunning him and similar weapons.
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>>183126905
>WELCOME TO B RANK MOTHERFUCKER

B-rank is where the game stops throwing you "training" ACs where you're supposed to learn about the game from, and starts throwing at you fully realized strategies
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>>183074935
>extra dimensional travel
But where to, though? How would you tie an AC plot around that?

>and combat
Regular or extra dimensional?
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>>183144982
To the other dimension, the extra dimension. Like Event Horizon, uncut.

Extra dimensional combat.
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>>183144982
>EXTRA DIMENSIONAL COMBAT

ugh

Don't get weird with AC, just give me a modern remake o ACLR and ZoE 3.
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If the old ACs were on Steam they'd be community tagged as walking simulators.

And I'm not sure they'd be wrong.
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>>183145459
have you played a walking sim?

All AC games are mech sims (even From Soft calls them sims) but on steam the pre-PS3 games would probably be called a "Platform Shooter" or "Puzzle shooter" similar to Doom or Portal.
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>>183145710
The day someone calls AC a puzzle shooter in my presence is the day I get arrested for assault.
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>>183148012
Platform shooter is more accurate, at least the indoor sections
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>>183148562
Sounds more proper. This isn't Professor Layton.
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Dead game and dead general

You should just retire both, you pathetic losers
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>>183155941
thanks for the free bump
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>>183158369
trash like you has no place in /vg/
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>>183125131
I remember the first time I went up against that one. Fucking OP-I bullshit with those chainguns flying around. I don't remember how I beat him though. Probably an initial assault with lots of missiles when at range and then finishing him off with a machinegun.
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>>183159667

>>183068279
>>182988128
>>183030297
>>183133868
>>183162401
>>183157880
>>183082061
>>182949035
>>183161313
>>182765365
>>182937506
>>183058653
>>183058273
>>182927913
>>182913884

while you're out there complaining, here are some other generals that you should go purge, for terrible games that are way less relevant than AC
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>>183135063
2 and Q variants were used for most missions. B variant was for missions involving enemy ACs. H variant was for aquatic combat. K variant was Karasawa focused specifically for fighting things in the Lost Field.

On to AC3.
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>>183167147
when you're all done, you should go back again and rely on weapons other than the karasawa and machine guns

B is pretty much identical to my first run through AC2. I like Q too.
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>>183167420
The Karasawa's ammo efficiency and damage potential is too good to pass up sometimes, since there were no other decent energy weapon options until you pick up the Emeraud laser rifle. More often I'd rely on my pulse cannon and missiles to deal with most enemies so I could save my Karasawa for more important or tougher enemies. If there was a more efficient energy weapon like the 1k damage 100 shot laser rifle in 1st gen or SL, or even the 800 damage 75 shot laser rifle in 3, I'd have used that instead.
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>>183168857
>no other decent energy weapon options
the laser rifle that shoots the thin beams and the laser sniper rifle are both really good, but I agree, the karasawa is pretty much the best in all ways in AC2.
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>>183117859
goddamnit ahab
>>183117890
fuckin nice
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5th parterino is up of FM4.

https://youtu.be/Y_1j3BB-Y7k
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Anyone have any idea what the difference between Normal and Hard difficulty level is for AC3? I can't seem to find any definitive answer anywhere besides one instance saying difficulty level changes the amount of time you have to get bonus missions.
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>>183172798
I do know that one feature of it is that it makes the aim box smaller.
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>>183172798
>>183173490
I believe all it does is change the size of the lockbox and missile AMS is worse
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new wednesday warzone and dev chat for garrison: archangel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSS4CLE9N54
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Which armored core had the best iteration of reverse joint legs?
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Is this game any good?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/476360/Strike_Vector_EX/
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>>183185102
Verdict Day.
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>>183185102
Personally for me it would be 3rd gen.
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>>183185102
Light reverse: Verdict Day, runner up: Nexus

Heavy reverse joints: AC2/AA
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hey guys it's me armored core
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oh there's a giant spider

i'm not equipped for this
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>>183202667
You can't be Armored Core.

Armored Core is dead.
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>>183205154
>can't tell if it's AC3, AC2, Nexus, ACFA, ACV, ACVD
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>>183205154
Ah, yes, a Bio Sensor. The one sensor you rarely need, but if you need it and don't have it, good fucking luck to you buddy boy.
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>>183165024
Terrible as some of those may be, at least half of those are multiplayer games and I'm firmly of the belief that those have much stronger cases for staying around on /vg/.
But seriously why does FGO need two different generals?
>>183211089
I don't think Nexus had any in the giant variety.
Nor FA.
Anyway, it's probably the guy who's been playing 3P.
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Back-mounted grenade launchers in Garrison: Archangel
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Every pilot in /acg/ that thinks he's hot shit... stand up. I need to know who I'll kill next.
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>>183229558
U FOK'N WOT M8 I'LL REK U I SWEAR ON ME MUM
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>>183229715
And just who are you, little man.
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>>183229558
You rang?
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>>183229558
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of the class in the Storkers, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on the Foundation, and I have over 300 confirmed AC kills. I am trained in bunny-hop warfare and I’m the top sniper in Signs. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Voice of War? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of photographers across the world and your whereabouts is being traced right now by Fred Nakano so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can disable your AC in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my post-destruction character. Not only am I extensively trained in pildriver combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the AC:VD at rank S with all scrap parts found and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of The Frontier, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>183229558
*Quick boosts behind you* Heh, nothing personnel kid. *Moonlight greatswords you in two*
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>>183229558
look mate if you're gonna avatarfag with this chick you better post a pic of your painstakingly recreated emblem of her
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>>183231579
no fucking way
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>>183233391
>pildriver
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you know what it is
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>>183234285
god damn this old thing's fucked up nevermind

fuck

it's comfy but damn the analog sticks are sending me in random directions fuck this

why the fuck the analog button turn off both analogs and not just the left one so you can use d-pad and stick, damn

stupid
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>>183125131
>Quit using the slow mouse -> analog option
>Back to controller with new binds
>Easy
Dumb
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>Got a new backmounted shotgun
>2 heavy 4 me
no mah leggies..
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>>183240413
>get snazzy looking new part
>this bling would go swell with my arm unit
>time to Fashioncore
>OVERWEIGHT
>all legs above my current one look like hideous elephant legs
>cannot bring myself to pretend my AC isn't overweight, screencap it and brag about my new blinged up AC anyway
This is the path I took as a Raven...
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>Dumb shitass tank overboosting around with a shotgun and grenades
>Runs into its own stupid mines
>Playing keepaway with a sniper and punishing with spread howitzer when it recovers from an overboost
Too easy!

B-Rank? Whatever dog! It's the same in the end: another smouldering pile of rubble!
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>>183241432
Why are mines even a thing? Not even the AI is dumb enough to run over them.

Meanwhile, flamethrowers have disappeared again after a brief stint in 3rd gen.

ffs
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>>183241404
Try lighter weapons and cut out the Inside if you have one.
>>183241740
Because mines are sick.
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>"He prefers close range combat and is adept with the blade"
>Sword and shotgun
>He never gets close
>Sniper and howitzer solves his whole life
Next dude better just give up the moment he sees me.
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What's with the 3 meters for the corporations in AC3P anyway, what good is it for me?
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>>183244151
Favor. As you complete missions for corporations, their respective bars will fill up. I think they unlock parts at certain points.
>>183243998
What was his name? Specter or something? Don't worry, the arena fight was just a practice run.
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>>183244541
I'll kill him twice, I'll kill him nine times, I don't care. My balls can hardly fit in my mech.

Do they go down if you do missions for other corporations? Will they all eventually max out?
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>Beat B-2 Fanfare
>Last solid minute and a half spent at 96 AP
Whew...
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>>183244541
>Favor. As you complete missions for corporations, their respective bars will fill up. I think they unlock parts at certain points.
Huh. I thought that was just a junk stat they removed.
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God it's gonna be forever until I can take on the A-Ranks
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>>183068162
is this game good yet
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one of the garrison: archangel devs posted this but

i don't know what it's supposed to be?
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>>183260241
a mech
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>>183260241
What is? There's only a faded blue background.
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>>183115987
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>>183244680
Do they go down if you do missions for other corporations? Will they all eventually max out?

I think they only go down if you do a mission for another corporation where you are against one. So if you take a mirage mission where you fight crest, your crest ranking goes down slightly but your mirage ranking goes up by a lot.

They do all max out eventually though, if you beat every mission.
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armored core sex bot
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Would Armored Core work as a sitcom like Seinfeld?
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>>183285641
Yes.
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>>183285641
>>183288057
alright gimme an example, gimme a snip of a script
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>>183291813
Everybody Loves Raven

The operator is constantly nagging the AC pilot inside their home, and the three corporations play various neighboors always asking for his help on some menial task. Other characters/pilots get in the way and hijinks ensue.
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>>183292540
gimme some dialogue
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Hmm apparently Chester Bennington from Linkin Park commited suicide.

I guess in the end it doesn't even matter.
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>>183295405
it's always fun telling which ACs in fanart are made by people who played the games a lot, because they're always way more practically built than player NPCs.
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>>183298504
When I saw that, I usually assume the AC is one the artist used, and mentally judge him over that, specially if the paint job is weird.
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>>183296920
Fug... that sucks.
Not a huge LP fan but I've always liked them, I enjoyed the angst!
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>>183296920
oh stop
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YEAH BITCH
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>>183292540
>didn't even go with the obvious "That's so Raven".
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Worst part of AC is you can't impress a girl with your performance in the arena like in Outrun.
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>>183292764
Jouster and Raven are in the living room having a heated discussion. Jouster appears to be having another one of his million dollar ideas and Raven doesn't want to hear it.

RAVEN: Look man, I just don't want to see you getting in over your head again.

(laugh track)

JOUSTER: (visibly annoyed at this last remark) I'm sitting on gold, I know it. All I'm saying is one of us isn't leaving here rich. I think it's you.

RAVEN: And all I'm saying is that the last ten times we went through this, you got burned in the end, so I'm a little wary about diving into this headfirst.

(laugh track)

Jouster angrily storms out of the room. Raven gets the last word as he departs.

RAVEN: (loudly) Hey, just make sure you keep your eyes open and your head on your shoulders, eh?

(extended laugh track and applause as the door slams, fade to black for commercial)
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>>183292764
[Raven sits alone at a table in his apartment, saddened by his recent breakup with White Glint]

[White Glint enters the room]

White Glint: Hey.

(audience boos)

White Glint: I guess there's little need for words...

[White Glint grabs his last box of clothes and leaves the room, officially moving out]
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>Recover Ship Cargo
>It's a fucking maze
>Keep hitting the ledges of holes I gotta fly through
>Bombs keep blowing up and sending me back down
Fuck you Mirage, Crest is way cooler.
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>Fashioncore with custom colors
Ready to put the shotgun to my head
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Any ideas on how to take the colors from ACs in the arena? I already know L+R to get their emblem but I just like the colors this guy has.
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>Assault Crest Facility
nuhhhhhhh i want crest to like me.....
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6th part is up boys, this video is a little longer.

https://youtu.be/tYeUSy5onSo
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i just wanted to say
hi guys
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great a new crest mission and the hidden part is in a molten pit this should be great
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>>183313657
No wall text about something today?
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I completely forgot this game was a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwyThrqgck4
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>>183115987
Tfw no next gen classic style AC games
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>>183324391
>PC only

Being a console-only shitter, this pains me to see.
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>>183329473
Dont worry, when the next AC game is console exclusive, we will have the last laugh.
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>crest let me buy a lighter arm with better recoil control
yeeeeeeee
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There's an emblem extraction / injection tool for AC3 https://www.vg-resource.com/thread-23051.html

Ain't found one for PSP yet tho
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>>183313682
i like you
>>183320414
i got nothin
>>183328797
fucking yes
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I can rip all sorts of shit from ACFF (PSP) but not AC3P

I just want the models to help me reskin some stuff...
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The Front Mission playthrough will really start picking up now in terms of mechanics and story. Hopefully it's not boring you guys.
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Used JPSP to rip the models. It's a little buggy visually and runs like ass but it'll export the whole 3D scene.
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translator just dropped one of my current favorite mangas, I need something to cheer up.

>>183345279
could you share those models once you rip them?
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>>183346164
It's just gonna be my own AC in case I ever get the urge to skin it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B84VfSyY-hv8TVBOX2pKblBtMW8 Here's some AC models from someone else.
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My baby...
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>>183345279
What's JPSP and how can I get it?
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>>183347770
Sorry got the name wrong, JPCSP http://www.jpcsp.org/

Also they host on RapidGator of all things so here's a mirror of the 32bit https://mega.nz/#!dskDhDJY!SbsLH3DoO9VE4ZTQeE27KytF6JaVORq2Xa5v5MB_-Mk
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I don't think this part actually comes off, why's it textured? Why's it a different mesh?
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>>183329473
Pretty sure they plan on getting it to consoles at some point. Unless something changed since I pitched in for the Indigogo campaign, the tier for which was supposed to include a physical copy of the game, for my platform of choice.
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>>183350807
It's a holdover from a scrapped mechanic from AC3 I think, where initially you could install more weapons into your shoulders like in the intro cinematic. The inside weapons must've replaced this function, while never really removing the mechanic from the model.
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what if gun real big?
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Night guys.
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>Another Century's Episode Portable
>Japanese-only FromSoft PSP mech game
>No English patch
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>>183356535
They're planning on updating all the mechs in Garrison: Archangel to have this level of detail in their textures, as well as seamless patterns like camo and probably some others.

Supposedly you'll have the option to only have the pattern show up masked to areas like the primary or secondary or what have you colored areas, but I haven't seen a screenshot of it yet.
>>
Survival bump.
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>15 seasons
>Every episode is about Corporations being evil
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>>183351967
insides were in AC2, but they probably still wanted to do shoulder units. Instead, like AC2, insides still fire out the back of the core.
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>>183309885
Trial and error only, unfortunately.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daWOGQetK_s

New G:A Friday Fight video with the Myrmidon mech and the ICBM.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/547360/BREAK_ARTS_II/

Kinda lookin forward to this mech racing game. Hope I can lower all the settings enough for it to run though.
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hell yeah just lag my whole fuckin laptop scanning this fuckshit armored core 3 bin
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*Ed Edd n Eddy sound effects*
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>>183381986
Oh neat there's actual stuff to look at now.

Hope I finally get the fuckin RGB values for these god damn arena ACs.
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hehe little MT
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Found some emblems. There's two versions for Raven's Nest and I don't remember seeing them in AC3P, though I ain't beat the game yet.
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And then this version.

There's some emblems for your pilot after it so maybe they're emblems you can use, which would explain why I never seen em after going Costanza.
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>AI OVER CAPACITY FOR SELECTED AC
>INCOMPLETE EQUIPMENT AND AI OVER CAPACITY FOR SELECTED AC
>DELETE THIS TEAM?
I don't remember Armored Core: Formula Front style AI and Team building in Armored Core 3 Portable... the fuck is this?
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God there's so much pilot dialog in here.
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>>183383083
>>183383217
I think one of those is the beat the game emblem, the other is the S-rank emblem.
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>>183383453
Silent Line has an AI system, my guess is that the PSP games both use the same engine, including the AI system that wasn't in the original AC3
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Gotta run some errands and I'll get back in the files.
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Where's B+Ranker
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Before I actually leave, to open ac3data.bin you'll need the program offzip which I can't link due to the spam filter.

Run it from cmd to see the instructions.

Noesis will open the GIC images and extract the BNDs, or at least most of them.

Try offzip on other games too, it just looks for familiar compression patterns and uncompresses them.

Hope y'all find somethin.
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7th part is up you lovely people.

https://youtu.be/MdnjWopF0CE
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bump, back into the files
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>93 degrees out
>Air conditioning is busted because of power outage a few days ago
>Too hot to play AC by normal means
>Fan on high while I'm butt naked and my feet dipped in ice water
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Found some files with content like this and at the end some AC parts, reckon it's AI info?

Some text in it like \data\friend\frnd001.dat iend\comed109.dat NO.69 OX

The parts listed would make it http://armoredcore.wikia.com/wiki/Vector but neither Vector nor Hypnos appear in the file. Reckon they're in frnd001.dat or comed109.dat

Too bad the file structure is just fucked beyond belief though.
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>>183400557
And 69 is Vector's place in the Arena roster if you count up from A-1.

Wonder how A-1 and A-2 look. Don't care about A-3, Royal Mist is so dumb looking like get out.
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>SERCH 4the NME
>ROMING
This is the most programming I've seen in a grip.
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https://youtu.be/e3wPF6LqJOU

My FME video is finally done. I feel the timing is a bit off in parts when it was exported.
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Think I found where the colors is... Not sure if it's actually stored in 0-255 or 0-200, gotta fuck around with values I know.

So Grand Chief, who pilots Hammer and is ranked B-1 is:

(2D 46 32) (64 32 32) (1E 1E 1E) (B4 50 1E) (55 55 3C)
(2D 46 32) (64 32 32) (1E 1E 1E) (B4 50 1E) (55 55 3C)
(2D 46 32) (64 32 32) (1E 1E 1E) (B4 50 1E) (55 55 3C)
(2D 46 32) (64 32 32) (1E 1E 1E) (B4 50 1E) (55 55 3C)
(2D 46 32) (32 32 32) (50 32 32) (B4 50 1E) (55 55 3C)

Then to decimal RGB values

(45, 70, 50) (100, 50, 50) (30, 30, 30) (180, 80, 30) (85, 85, 60)
(45, 70, 50) (100, 50, 50) (30, 30, 30) (180, 80, 30) (85, 85, 60)
(45, 70, 50) (100, 50, 50) (30, 30, 30) (180, 80, 30) (85, 85, 60)
(45, 70, 50) (100, 50, 50) (30, 30, 30) (180, 80, 30) (85, 85, 60)
(45, 70, 50) (50, 50, 50) (80, 50, 50) (180, 80, 30) (85, 85, 60)

Maybe? Gonna try it out and see how it goes.
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>>183403305
Next I'm gonna try converting them from 0-255 to 0-200 and see if that helps. Plus this is in Formula Front which has a reflection on it so it might look paler.

In 0-200 it'd be

(35, 55, 39) (78, 39, 39) (23, 23, 23) (140, 63, 23) (66, 66, 47)
(35, 55, 39) (78, 39, 39) (23, 23, 23) (140, 63, 23) (66, 66, 47)
(35, 55, 39) (78, 39, 39) (23, 23, 23) (140, 63, 23) (66, 66, 47)
(35, 55, 39) (78, 39, 39) (23, 23, 23) (140, 63, 23) (66, 66, 47)
(35, 55, 39) (39, 39, 39) (63, 39, 39) (140, 63, 23) (66, 66, 47)
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>>183404617
Nah I think it stores the 0-200 value and converts it to 0-255 when it uses it?

Anyway, to get the colors to Armored Core 3 Portable ACs in the Arena you gotta use offzip on ac3data.bin and then open the 20KB dat and txt files and look through them for the right Arena number (A-1 is 1, count down) formatted NO. 15 and so on / parts for the AC you want. Some might have different file name extensions for no obvious reason and file size may be a little different.

Might be more ACs in some of the BND files, just gotta extract more.
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>>183399281
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>>183405450
Oh, and the colors are at offset 0x20
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There's an AC in here I can't ID

敵01です。 キ。BALENAさんです。

MHD-FALCON HEAD UNIT 缶
対エネルギー防御に優れるがやや重い
ECH-D4 CORE UNIT
高い防御力を持つがスロット数少なめ
ZAN-616/AUR ARM UNIT
安定した性能を持つジオ社製中量腕
ZLN-9001/A HUMANOIDO LEGS
ジオ社初の重量型、安定性に優れる
CIS-GO BOOST UNIT
出力と消費のバランスを重視
KRA-105 FCS
最大ロック数10、標準的な単体ロック型

etc

Who the fuck is this
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>>183405450
>so desperate to get arena color schemes that he rummages through the source code until he finds the data and then decodes it
You're a hero, Anon.
>>183410238
Wait, was this in the files for 3?
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>>183410528
Yeah, it might be one we already know about just in Japanese. Gotta figure out what these parts are in English real quick.
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>>183410730
Well that's kind of awkward because those are 2nd gen parts and Balena was a group of some kind in 2.
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>>183410238
ZLN-9001/A is Armored Core 2 stuff.

>>183410821
Yeah this is weird. Wonder if there was gonna be an AC2 PSP port.

...was there gonna be an ac2 psp port?
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>all this coding and riping project

Kinda makes me wanna to put more effort on my coding classes
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>Still ain't found A-1 or A-2 to get their colors
Fuck me I guess.
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The plot thickens. Can't find MHD-Falcon in the part lists for AA or SL, maybe it's a PSP original part.
Arms, core, and legs are AC2.
Can't find the booster or the FCS anywhere. Can't even find their prefixes. The closest I can get on the FCS is the DOX-105 from 3. Are those PSP original parts?
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>CANCELLED ARMORED CORE 2 PSP PORT

FROMSOFT YOU FUCKS
>>
i'm wailing
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>>183402128
Excellent editing.
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>>183411251
Shut up and fight me faggot.
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Alright got the colors.

Ace - Arcadia - A-1
0 0 0
40 47 55
104 59 24
115 117 0
75 75 75


BB - Tyrant - A-2
30 40 50
60 70 75
20 20 20
200 141 50
200 20 20
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>>183412028
>worst in the Ps2 series

And nothing of value was lost.
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>>183425237
an armored core game was lost :(
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>>183425724
Why would you want a watered down version? It's as easy to emulate PS2 as it is PSP now.
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>>183425789
laptop can't handle it, got that bad mobile gpu

plus it would have been nice back in the psp days
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>>183425789
The PSP games have multiplayer, the PS2 games did not.

PSP also generally uses a lot less resources to emulate, so you can get better graphics on the same hardware. PS2 emulation is processor heavy.
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>>183411795
More likely they were early development names that were renamed but kept the old names in the code somehow.
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>>183426452
>The PSP games have multiplayer, the PS2 games did not.
You want to clarify that?
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>>183425789
>>183426452
>The PSP games have multiplayer, the PS2 games did not.
You wot m8? Even AC3 has four-player splitscreen.
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>>183426905
>>183426984
ONLINE multiplayer, not splitscreen. The PSP games used P2P matchmaking like AC4/V.
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>when you save instead of load your savestate
:D
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Wish me luck comrades.

Tonight is the night.
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>>183428075
TONIGHT
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>>183428279
this is the most AC image if I have seen

prepare your asshole
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>>183428279
what kind of keytroller is that?
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i got over a million dollars i really oughtta upgrade my ac
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>>183431049
bought a bunch of new shit and i'm still a millionaire

that's the arena life babey!

if i can s-rank enough missions i can kill the a-ranks too!
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Both of these fucking hovertank leg float off the ground, why's one float on the water and the other sink? This is horseshit.
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>>183433053
>gotta look up the damn wiki to see what legs actually hover
fuck you fromsoft
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Don't mind me, just casually lurking waiting for B Shitter so I can catch him while he's here. The Shitter keeps dodging me.

How do you lore him out, do we make the page reach 10 and then his Page 10 alert goes off and he comes to the rescue? Sounds like a good plan for a nice ambush.
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>>183434838
DM him on Twitter.

What, you don't have his Twitter?

Tch.
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>>183434838
If you want a sound ass whooping, I can take B's place and beat you silly until he returns.
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>>183433053
hover legs are called "Hover" in the game. Hovering tank legs are called "Tank" legs.

Also tank legs are generally MUCH heavier than hover legs.

It's not that complicated.
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>>183431778
>>183431049
cash doesn't make your AC stronger, it just gives you more options to mix and match parts.

Once you have enough cash to buy a single part of each type, you don't really need more money for the rest of the game, it just makes things more convenient to not have to sell everything before buying new stuff.
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>>183436656
Where? I must be blind.
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>>183437068
Sort by leg type. Notice how RE/3003 and TRIDENT sits between two other tread-types? That means they're both tanks.

Moving ability for ZMX is also extremely high, it's lighter weight (I think it's the heaviest Hover and Trident is the lightest Tank) and it's ordered adjacent only to other hover types? Yeah, use some common sense about that.

Tanks and hovers show up differently. Most of the games (including AC3 on Ps3 and ACLR portable, no idea why not in AC3) have a line for "Type" where it lists them as either Hover leg or Tank leg.

Easy way to test even if the ordering is too hard to figure out is to just use a back cannon. Hovers have to stop in place while aiming them, tanks don't.
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>>183436054
>A-rank without relying on Machine guns and L-arm howitzers

good on you
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>>183436023
Don't worry, you were next on my list after the old man.
>>
>>183434838
did you use to write for Naruto?
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>>183437671
That's just my cosplay set, most of the time I used the http://armoredcore.wikia.com/wiki/MWG-RF/220 and the starter missiles and blade, sometimes I had to go sniper or spreadshot howitzer though.
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>>183437829
Stop defending B Shitter. Wait, are you the person that is B Shitter's waifu or something. Because if so, I WANNA FIGHT YOU RIGHT NOW! I'll sink you to the bottom of the ocean and he;ll come running. Ha.
>>
>>183439156
I'm not defending him, I'm laughing at you

what game are you playing? VD?
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>>183439156
>>183434838
How's about I take you on, faggot?

I could use a warmup.
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>>183439274
What is there to laugh at, what is so.... funny?
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>>183439404
Aniki!? OOOH! Since when did you get so loud mouthed? You're not a terrrible pilot but you still need some work before you can beat me.
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>>183439687
I'm laughing at your delusional motivation. You clearly want to be made a fool out of, I am just obliging you.
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>>183440224
>Avatarfag

Worse than pond scum. What's your Verdict build?
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>>183413982
Another I liked

Huntress - Rouge - E-21
125 105 110
100 30 20
150 35 105
115 115 0
75 75 75
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzngWzpUIv4

>Super Best Friends play Garrison: Archangel
<_<
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>>183438309
What's your fighting style look like? I'm just not seeing the raw dps necessary to beat the higher rank arena opponents with that loadout, considering the shredding power of some of the higher ranks.
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>>183443859
Circle strafing and a very wide lock-on either in arena or the parking lot to give me an advantage against floaty types.
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>>183444864
What about chain-gun abusing shitters like Ace? How'd you beat that dps? Lots of bunnyhopping to lose their tracking?
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In doing some testing in AC3, I have determined that the reload stat is the number of frames (1/60th of a second) it takes to reload, and the OP-SP/E++ part increases energy weapon damage by 15%.
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>>183445253
I'm only B-1, I don't have access to the A ranks yet. Also I'm just virtually always boosting so their bullets go behind me if I move right.
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>>183445579
Neat. Good luck with the A ranks. I just finished going through them all myself so I was curious.

I've used pretty much the same fighting style in all games. Zenbu Style : overwhelm them with a barrages of missile followed by a hail of bullets.
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>>183445524
This has been known for ages.

And I'm pretty sure reload time is 1/30th, not 1/60th. AC runs in 30fps. Technically it runs in NTSC which is 60 half-frames per second interlaid, but in terms of code it's still treated as 30fps. No AC game runs at true 60fps.
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>>183446178
FUCKING-

WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!

>>183437671
>A-rank without relying on Machine guns and L-arm howitzers

your AC's weapon loadout is one of the most OP possible builds I can think of for AC3 without resorting to H+. L-arm howitzers are less accurate karasawas.
>>
Y'all know there are widescreen hacks for Armored Core 3?

http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-PCSX2-Widescreen-Game-Patches?pid=251918#pid251918
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>>183448840
woah, sweet. Anyone tried them out yet?
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>>183448334
I checked with the bazooka that has a reload value of 60, and it was shooting one shell every second exactly. I know the game doesn't run at 60fps, but the subdivision for the reload value is definitely 1/60th.
>>
Hey Xez, I finally watched one of your FM videos, I cant belive I somehow skipped that game, it looks good; but I have to say, I am soo used to isometrics views on TBS, that I sometimes get weirded out when the camera moves around on the map, I guess is just about getting use to it.
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>>183449798
Your buttslut's looking for you.
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>>183449798
Glad you like it man, and I understand that feeling of a sudden movement in a game but I tend to get use to it pretty quickly.

FM4 in my opinion has the best characters and gameplay mechanics out of all the Front Mission games but FM5 wins best story but only by a slight margin.
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>>183448492
I just use what's most effective, be it energy weapons for missions or missiles and machine guns for arena. I'm on the sixth game at this point and the only limitation for my playthroughs is no H+.
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>>183450335
You should set that as your emblem if you cut out the background. https://www.vg-resource.com/thread-23051.html
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>>183449798
And isn't unlocked camera movement common in isometric TBS?
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>>183450959
well most of the ones I have played usually are a areal view that close up for battle (like fire emblem) or stuff like FF tactics and disgaea, where the best you get is rotating the map, but still remains as isometric.
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>>183450507
If you could have separate emblems for ACs, I would, but I already decided on my emblem (recoloring one of the AC2 samples), and recreated it in AC1 prior to starting AC2.
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>>183451230
Ahh okay, I can see why you're weirded out by the camera movement.
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>>183450507
>>183450335
Try this, it's gonna be real cute.

>>183451397
That emblem's mad boring.
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Give me a rundown on all the namefags and what they bring to the table
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>>183450507
>https://www.vg-resource.com/thread-23051.html
This is amazing. I'll try that later.

>>183451437
I know it's boring, but I've already started and intend to see it through to the end.
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>>183451626
They keep the thread from falling off the board.

; _;
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>>183451626
I think some of them are/were old members from AC community groups that pre-date /acg/ and wanted to keep their usernames

but really it just makes it easier to keep track of conversations and content sometimes, since we tend to have more discussion rather than shitposting/memes going on here
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Goddammit Mirage, stop being stingy and release your middle-weight EO core to the shop.
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Do consorts lower your ranking in AC3P?
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>Race to find turrets in the fog
>Only get the extra part if I do it fast enough to continue to the extra mission
Fuck you FromSoft
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>>183455961
>Equip sniper rifle
>Take them all down solo while hardly moving
>S Rank
>No extra mission with the part
Fuck it whatever! Fuck it! I'll take an S Rank! Who gives a fuck who gives a shit, fuck it all. Fuck FromSoft, fuck video games, fuck this. I don't need the MWG-KARASAWA. Who gives a fuck! My dick's too big for this shit.
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Why is it that B Shitter is never around when I am. This is pissing me off to a whole new level. Look B Shitter, fight me and let's get this over with. Pick a time and a date. After that I'll leave you be and move on to that old man. After that I'm coming for you aniki and that loser Xez, hehe, and then I come for the rest of you losers who belong in a normal.

I demand you come out of hiding and face me, coward. I sick and tired of doing this, it has went on for far too long to the point that other people are attacking me it's pissing me off that I want to kill you first for everything you did.
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>>183458521
what the fuck you say about me
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>>183458521
Do you even have an emblem? :\
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>>183458906
Ha, don't make me laugh.

>>183459507
What is it with you and my Emblem? Who are you?
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>>183460918
Maybe if you had an emblem you'd look more professional and people would fight you.
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>>183461515
Hmph, fyi I have an Emblem (a new one) as I have started a new revelation. One that'll rid the false faces here.

I wont reveal myself until the final battle.
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>>183458521
If you hate all the namefags. Why do you focus only on ranker? Just fight the others if ranker ignores you
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>>183463395
No no, let him fight Ranker first. It'll be entertaining.
>>183451626
Used to be a good way for me to keep track of who was still active in the Guns, but now there's not much purpose. Old habits die hard.
Irregular Raven has the most justification, but he almost always posts anonymously. I feel like I saw him namefag once. Anyway, he's the guy working on the Last Raven patch.
>>183448334
It's definitely 1/60 in VD and I'm willing to believe FROM did that for the sake of consistency.
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Armored Core: The False Faces

Introduction: A mysterious anon suddenly appears and challenge one of /acg/'s members, B+Ranker, in a battle to the death. This mysterious anon claims the members of /acg/ are the "False Faces", a secret organization manipulating and pulling strings behind the scenes and has declared war against /acg/. Will B+Ranker accept his challenge?
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>>183455673
Yes.
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>>183464396
We're getting dangerously close to LARPing territory, let's not tempt fate any further.
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official art for the G:A grenade launchers
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>>183451437
this makes me wish i had a good drawn emblem like all the other pilots
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Mmmmmm... can't find a shader for PPSSPP that'll let me use a custom CLUT to color the image, but maybe AC3P uses its own CLUT internally and I can just maybe... replace it with something a little synthwavy...
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>>183493203
Got this in the RAM at 0x450F3F, but it's real small. Not sure what it is but I guess I'll log it and try to fuck with it later.
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>>183495062
Exists again at 0x47FCB7 and that's all I seen.
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>>183495945
>>183495062
It either doesn't affect visuals or I don't know how to actually replace the values with cwcheats.

Did like _L 0x00450F7F 0xthe new line of bytes over and over for each new line in memory.

Oh well, not a huge thing. Maybe I can mess with the natural colors shader and get a thing.
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shit fuck
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>>183497932
What did you do?
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Not quite what I want but teal and magentaish red is pretty cool.

Also did you know you get some stupid legs for doing good in the first ac test? Wonder what else there is.

>>183498879
I adjusted some values I saw in my duplicate of the natural colors shader because I assumed it converted RGB to YIQ and then the three groups of equations were for Y I and Q channels but they all just made it brighter? Think I managed to only affect the Y channel, not sure what's up with the three textures then. It's been a while since I bothered with shaders and even then I didn't really understand it, I just looked for patterns in examples and tried to get things to work with trial and error.
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I want a Zeong build for Nexus; a quick, floaty mech with enough ammo and power to carry me through the mission.

What do you guys suggest?
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>First Person View
Load Armored Core 3 data from a memory card that also has an Armored Core 2 or Armored Core 2: Another Age saved game on it. Pause the game during a mission, arena battle or VS battle, and simultaneously press the L1, R2, X, Square and down. The point of view switches to first person. Unpause to go back to default view.

I want this in PSP and I want it NOW.
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>>183499706
oh nevermind this actually looks awful on ps2. this is sub-halo FOV with a giant gun in your eyes, terrible.
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Okay now it's doing what I expected.
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>>183413982
Ace's color scheme really is excellent.
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Okay let's uh... Let's give making a custom skin for my mech an honest try.

It's only gonna be like 6 or 8 really densely packed textures, how hard can it be if I just make myself do it?
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>>183512291
Good luck anon.
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Real simple, just camo but only in some sections so it's not a weird mess.
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>no custom controls for garrison archangel
>dodge button is not on a trigger or L3/R3, so you have to stop moving the camera to dash/dodge

well guess I'm not playing this game
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>>183499579
High movement ability Hover legs with Pixie2 and EO cores. Use normal movement (not boosting) for basic dodges and use boosting for range control/closing in. Use a really good radiator and a high capacity (but low cal value, like FUDOH) generator. L-arm blade if you want even more ammo, or L-arm shell sheild otherwise.

Or the same, but lightweight biped with Birdie2 boosters.
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>>183517951
why the fuck you playing unlocked, the unlocked camera is literally useless

did you just try the controls against a dummy ai or something
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>>183518639
I'm not playing unlocked but I'd prefer AC controls over ZoE controls. I don't like having to take my thumb off the R-stick to dodge, it seems counter intuitive.
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>>183518983
Stop putting your thumb on a stick that isn't used then. Keep your thumb on A.
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>>183518983
you're using dodge constantly but you keep moving your thumb back to an unused stick like? the fuck are you doing man
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Okay, two weeks ago I said I'd get on VD for someone today. I'm going to go out for a bit, but hopefully you'll be around by the time I'm back.
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Real simple, not sure I like it too much.

Might go back and mask out the blue parts to make them brighter and paler.
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>>183521306
That's some super cool shit man.
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>>183523652
>Raven Rank A
Oh boy time to spend a week on the last three arena fights and get into extended arena!
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>>183519553
>>183519128
Is there online multiplayer yet? The AI is pretty easy, even on insane mode I'm wrecking things 80% of the time.
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Rate my OC.
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>>183524285
Not yet, full release on Steam is when it'll have online.
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Been doing some analysis of AC3 R-arm weapons related to damage, weight, cost, and efficiency. I ignored solid blades and hand rocket, and assumed 50% pellet hit rate for spread shot weapons.

>Damage Potential : MWG-MG/1000, MWG-KARASAWA, CWG-MG-500, CWG-BZ-50, CWG-BZ-30, MWG-RF/220, CWG-SRF-80, MWG-XCW/90, MWG-XCB/75, MWG-SRF/60
The 1000 round machine gun is king, followed by the Karasawa, the 500 round machine gun, and bazookas.

>DPS : MWGG-XCG/20, CWG-BZ-30, MWG-KARASAWA, MWG-MG/350, CWG-MG-500, MWG-MG/1000, CWGG-GR-12, CWG-BZ-50, MWG-GS/54, MWG-SRF/60
The plasma rifle has the highest dps of all R-arm weapons, followed by bazooka types (including the Karasawa), the grenade rifle, and machine guns.

>Heat per Second : CWG-HG-80, CWG-BZ-50, CWGG-GR-12, MWG-HG/100, CWG-BZ-30, MWG-RF/220, MWG-SBZ/24, MWG-MG/350, CWG-RF-160, CWG-RF-200
Handguns, bazookas, and the grenade rifle, are the best at inducing heat stress.

>Weight Efficiency : MWG-KP/150, MWG-MG/1000, MWG-RF/220, MWG-KP/100, CWG-MG-500, CWG-SRF-80, MWG-XCW/90, CWG-RF-160, CWG-RF-200, CWG-HG-80
Pulse rifles, the 1000 round MG, and the extended range rifle, get you the most damage for weight.

>Cost Efficiency : CWG-SRF-80, CWG-RF-200, CWG-BZ-30, MWG-SRF/60, MWG-RF/220, CWG-GS-56, CWG-BZ-50, CWG-RF-160, CWG-MG-500, CWG-GS-72
Rifles, sniper rifles, and surprisingly bazookas, get you the most bang for your buck, if you ignore energy weapons.

The most interesting thing I found in all this is that the MWG-RF/220 rifle, despite not having significant DPS, has very respectable damage potential and is incredibly weight and cost efficient, especially if you consider it's low purchase cost as well.
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>>183528942
Nice!
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anyone here even have a strong enough self-image or identity to come up with a meaningful emblem

i'm just kind of alive you know
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>>183533394
My trademark emblem is a sword sticking out of a stone, with the Nineball logo on the front of the stone. It goes with my AC, Excaliber, spelled with an E because it's a play on words.
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>>183528942
Did a similar thing with back weapons, but it's a little harder to calculate dps with missile lock time so I calculated burst damage if all missiles connect. I won't go into as much detail this time, but here are my findings.

>Damage Potential : CWC-CNG-300 chaingun and MWC-XP/80 pulse cannon are highest
>Weight Efficiency : both pulse cannons and the 50 round small rocket
>Cost Efficiency : all rockets all day long, followed by small missiles
>DPS : chaingun, large rocket, pulse cannons, and the LX
>HPS : grenade launchers, large rocket, chain gun
>Spike Damage : high lock small missiles, large missile, 4 lock middle missiles
>Spike Heat : high lock small missiles, large missile, dual slot launchers

The 12 lock small missile launcher has horrible missile tracking, so the 10 lock wins out for burst damage, but for speed the dual slot launchers are just best for spike damage and heat. Pulse cannons are super cost effective and have great dps, if you can get around the energy cost (chaingun's cost isn't terrible, but not ideal). I've also found rockets, despite their difficult use, to be very effective for missions in both cost and weight efficiency.
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>>183533394
Just think really hard about home. It's where the heart is, after all.
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>>182750495
Can you run Last Raven Portable and screenshot it so I can see if the ghosting effect only is on LRP?
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Alright surely there's a plain camo texture in the game that it overlays onto the uncolored grey textures, there's no way it has two skins for everything.

If I can find it I can use it however I want on custom textures and it'll fit in visually.

Just gonna blog about it to keep the thread alive.
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Trivia: AC3P's cockpit menu is occasionally referred to internally as the "cookpit".
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Fuck opening all these BND archives.
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>>183545163
It's funny because of 3's ridiculous heat damage.
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>>183548739
Guess why I just now finally beat A-3 but it was tie.
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>>183548984
Now -I'm- winner.

Not so tough when you waste all your fuckin missiles and I out-circle-strafe you.
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lmao

if I stopped playing chicken with his bazooka a little earlier and pushed damage I could have probably won without dying.
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No chance! That's what you had!
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>>183549970
Quick update.
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Shitfaced anon from last night >>183428279

Just beat Nexus by spamming Wyrm and Wyvern and I'm moving on to the next disk (Revolution).

Should I go for 100% completion to get a good build in Last Raven, or will Nine Breaker's parts blow them out of the water?
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Finished the AC3 story. Now to start finishing everything else.
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>>183552408
y'ain't tried that widescreen hack what been posted earlier?
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>>183552149
Nine Breaker doesn't add many new parts, but starts to nerf some of the OP parts (like wyrm) from nexus. LR is the best balanced.
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>>183552149
I'd say at least get all the parts from Revolution and get the parts Ninebreaker introduces because Last Raven hides some of them behind some very strict requirements.
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>>183553474
>>183552149
Getting parts early won't make last raven much easier though. The difficulty is in the mechanics and enemies, not the limitations on what parts you have. It will maybe prevent you from getting caught out of cash and unable to advance in the missions or arena, but you could always slowly grind the early VR arena instead if that happens.
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I can't open pro.coldbird.net for some reason, I don't get an error like server not found or nothing, the it just say Connecting... in the top of the tab for a moment and then it's empty and says New Tab like I never even tried to load a page.

Any ideas?
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>>183554298
https://pro.coldbird.net/status/status.xml

Works fine for me. 81 users currently online.

Sometimes the server or site gets overloaded and slows down though.
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>>183554771
>>183554298
Can't even view it properly with a proxy like onlineproxy.eu, it just says PPSSPP PPSSPP PPSSPP and maybe two user names and PPSSPP PPSSPP completely unformatted, nothing like the screenshots I've seen.

God I wonder if my shit ISP blocked it. Like I wouldn't even be able to really battle online anyway but I'd at least like to know multiplayer could work with idk puzzles or trading in some other games.
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Fuck the limited weapon color options.
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>>183555931
I DIG IT.
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>>183555931
Maybe darken them a little and put a yellow stripe on the booster which is now purple.

Gotta figure out what controls the booster color internally. There's a bunch of grey textures what get recolored but two of them have a bit of color and maybe it adds up on screen? Gotta try it.
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>>183557236
How the fuck am I going to replace all this in the VRAM?

That's gonna one fucking huge cheatcode.

Assuming I can even figure out how to do it with one.
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>>183558024
Went to its location in the memory debugger and put in some random values for the first line and nothing changed, that's either not it or it uses a different line of the hundreds in different, non-sequential, locations.

There's got to be a better way that isn't just replacing the textures which will probably replace the recolored graphic but then everyone will have purple boosters.
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Does Armored Core 3 Portable even have Extra Arena
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Don't get anything specifically for S Ranking the AC Tests, you only get some legs for A Ranking or above one of them.
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>>183553474
Hate to bother ya Ahab, but could you list some of them? or do you have a list of them? I've been trying to 100% the game for a while now.
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>>183565191
What, the Ninebreaker parts or the parts that are in Revolution/Ninebreaker but painful to unlock in Last Raven?
Because off the top of my head, the one I remember most is the HP handgun, which requires an S rank on some mission that's normally easy but has a very rough S.
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>>183562887
Yes.
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>>183565613
how the Dick do I get it? I only see the info for the PS2 version and it says just beat A-1 and it'll be right next to arena.

I beat em all. I'm the best. but there's no extra arena anywhere I can see
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>>183565754
Have you beaten the game?
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>>183565938
no i'm only like 20 missions in, i just played a lot of arena.
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>>183566002
Well, back to the main missions you go.
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Opening 913 files in Notepad++!

Nothing can go wrong
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god fuck looking through the files like this
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>>183533394
I just draw dongs
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Okay Notepad++'s find in files function is a little better.

Didn't find what I wanted but I did find some interesting files to look through...
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>Ascii Format Model Data File (AP2) Ver. 2.51
owo what's this?
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>>183571374
http://www43.zippyshare.com/v/YIdd5Fsk/file.html

Weird 3d model format for anyone to look at. Looks like it defines some primitives like boxes and plops them around.

I know it's .ppm but it's not an actual PPM image, it's some other thing. Probably a primitives-based 3d model format based on the contents of ppmtest.
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alright 6am i gotta go to bed or tomorrow will be a waste

only idea i got is load the ac test with two different boosters with different colors and dump the ram each time and compare them in a hex editor, hopefully it won't have unrelated data shifted around to fuck up a comparison
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>>183555214
Try it on someone else's computer.

Clear your cache.

Disable adblock or any script killers you're using.
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>>183575003
Damn this thread's dead as hell.

Bout to bust open some french toast sticks and tear into this mug. Non-customizable booster colors is whack and I gotta fix this shit.

I gotta!

It's what the developers intended :^D
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Page 10 after only 16 minutes, this sucks.
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>>183590775
Yeah, but the threads at the bottom of page 10 have about an hour and a half since their last bump, so we have some time available.
>>183589080
Every booster must be purple. It is the will of the people.
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Drunk anon again. How the fuck are you supposed to customize your AC in Nine Breaker if there's no shop? Do the devs just assume you have a Nexus save?

This game makes me angry.
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>ppsspp crashed when writing a savestate
: )
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>>183589080
>french toast sticks
sorry what
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>>183591668
Training missions and arena fights(?) will give you parts.
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>>183591810
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>decide to try widescreen hacks for AC3
>set internal resolution to 1920x1080
>full screen
I was a fool to wait this long to do this.
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>>183596007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FrMKkwgryQ

Post screenshots! People gotta know they can do this!
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>>183596154
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>>183596648
Fucked up my crop.
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>>183596840
i can't really tell if it's rendering more of the 3d scene or if it stretched the whole image

can you screenshot with and without the hack in the same spot?
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Didn't find anything booster related in the memory yet but I -did- find my emblem and palette.

I couldn't figure out how to edit it in saves but maybe I can just replace it in memory and save that...
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>>183597139
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>>183598087
Whoa...
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>>183598087
WHOA

SO THIS... THIS IS THE POWER OF A FORCED ASPECT RATIO
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>>183598087
whoa
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>>183598087
I'll also note that the main menu isn't stretched because it's actually a 3d object
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>>183598734
Hnhggngh
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>>183596840
>>183598734
>>183598087
the stretched HUD honestly looks way more disgusting and annoying than just dealing with it in the default aspect ratio.
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>>183597604
I can.

Now I just gotta make a raw 8bit bitmap and shove it into the memory using ppsspp's memory editor... which I hopefully won't have to manually enter byte by byte...
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>>183599671
>>183598087
\Does PCSX2 or whatever it's called let you replace textures? Maybe you could rip the HUD and replace it with a stretched copy to counter this.
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>>183589080
>customizing booster colors

YOU AM PLAY GOD
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>>183599682
Tried this auto typer program but something went wrong.
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>>183599682
>>183601567
Any ideas on how I can replace 4000 bytes in PPSSPP's memory?
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Ain't figured out how to color the boost jets yet but:

CBT-01-UN4 is pink, CBT-DRAKE is purple.
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>>183607732
CBT-DRAKE is -really- slow but I can fly a lot at least... even though that's not really my style...

What even are the replay controls? Can't figure out how to zoom.
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90% achievement in AC3, all hidden parts collected, all missions completed, all arena completed (ex arena included). All that I have left is a lot of mission S ranking and getting all OP-I functions.
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Next video is up.

https://youtu.be/_uBGpSfPq4k
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Just finished Nexus (Evo+Revo). I'm thinking if I should really give a spin on Ninebreaker, because the stories I've heard about those training missions...

>>183552149
You don't get anything for doing 100% on Revolution. All the hidden parts are inside the missions. Getting 100% just unlocks every illustration.

If you're really going for 100%, get ready for the 1st mission of Chapter 13.
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>>183591668
If you finish all training missions with a gold medal, the game just gives you all the parts. ALL of them.
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>>183615003
Play it yourself and form your own opinion.
The arena definitely has some good fights in it.
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>>183615003
>>183615173
Jesus christ why
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>>183616479
I already played a little of the arena (reached the top 30), but I didn't even begin doing those training missions. My AC that I carried over from Nexus just murdered everything in the arena.

My point is that Ninebreaker doesn't have any exclusive parts (well, Nexus doesn't either...), and the training mode seems to take at least triple the time of the arena.

And is it just me, or did they rework the heat formula from Nexus? I got into a few tight spots on the arena (my AC is energy-based), but didn't get raped as hard as I would be in Nexus.
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>>183617071
Exclusive no, but it does introduce new parts that will be obtainable in Last Raven. I still stand by the claim that it's more reasonable to just get them in Ninebreaker.
And yes, heat's more friendly in Ninebreaker and Nexus.
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>>183617398
Looking at the parts list here, I see that a few of them require S Ranks on Last Raven to acquire, so I think it's a moot point.

That reminds me, I never got 100% on Silent Line. I heard the prize is some handgun that gives ungodly heat, but since I don't really play multiplayer, I never got around to getting it.
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>>183617591
Yeah, it's not worth it. I say that as someone who 100% the game on the Ps2, and just didn't care to do it again on the PSP.
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Trying to get the AC3 emblem extractor to work, but I keep getting this horribly mangled output. I'm using mymc to export the emblem save data to .psu, and then the extractor linked here >>183340894 but it's not working right. And when I try to inject an image, mymc rejects it. Has anyone gotten this to work before?
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Hm, I've been lurking for a few days, and I'm really getting a craving for AC now!

The only one I played is AC2. I'm definitely not done with the arena yet, because it's sort of bullshit, but maybe I'll go back to that and brute-force it somehow. I'm definitely in the top 10! I believe the game unlocks all the missions when you're done with the story, so I think I did all the missions too.

Should I play the first three ACs before moving on further? Or maybe AC2AA just to have the AC2 series done with?
I think I'll try and get as many of them as possible, but I'll have to emulate the PS1 games and a few of the PS2 ones.
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>>183626582
>Should I play the first three ACs before moving on further?
Not required. In fact, the PS1 games are not really recommended except for nostalgia's sake because they are considerably more clunky and worse graphically than the PS2 games.

>Or maybe AC2AA just to have the AC2 series done with?
That's the logical progression. However AC2:AA is generally harder, and you'll struggle with it if you found AC2 to be too hard.

>because it's sort of bullshit
How so? The arena is usually a very fair test of your build and controls.

>but I'll have to emulate the PS1 games and a few of the PS2 ones.
That's perfectly acceptable, you aren't harming the franchise by emulating since From no longer has the PS2 and PS1 games in print anymore. That means they aren't losing any money, any copies you buy would be aftermarket / resold copies anyway.
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>>183626582
Having recently played through the PS1 games, they're fun but incredibly clunky and you can count the pixels.

AC2 arena isn't too bad once you get used to the controls and improve your loadout, but ultimately it's on your piloting ability above all else. The quad middle missile and quad missile extensions can help you through the arena pretty easily along with a decent machinegun if you're having lots of trouble. AC2AA is definitely harder than AC2, and has some significant difficulty spikes, but on the bright side you can finally use an analog stick instead of the d-pad. Stick with AC2 and try to finish the arena, it'll help you in AC2AA when you have to fight enemy ACs in missions.
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>>183626582
AC2AA is just plain hard, no matter how you look at it. It has 102 missions (the most out of any AC game), but there are a few battles against ACs that will make your tear your hair out of frustration. It's also the only game of the PS1/PS2 era that has a (infamous) 3 vs 1 AC battle.
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>>183627818
I found the 3v1 AC battle to be pretty easy compared to the 2v1 in the city area. Fighting 2 ACs that specialize in close quarters in a tight area is much more difficult than 3 ACs in a wide open area.
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>>183627818
> but there are a few battles against ACs that will make your tear your hair out of frustration

Hello
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>>183628090
This was the mission that made me create the "bumrush the fuck out of enemy ACs" design. I think I died 15 times trying to defeat it with my main AC (a medium biped).
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>>183627947
I remember there were tons of slowdown in that stage. It got better when there was only 1 AC left.
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>>183623156
Looking a little closer the hex data in the .psu emblem file doesn't seem to be formatted in the way the emblem extractor jar assumes. I checked the raw data file you can get by converting the .ps2 memcard file into directories, but the hex data isn't large enough. Unless this is supposed to be using my save data file and not my emblem data file... time to try that.
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>>183629969
Yep, I needed to use the save file not the emblem file. I feel dumb now.
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>>183627096
>>183627803
>>183627818
>>183627947
Oh, I heard the PS1 ones were preferred and also faster than AC2. I suppose not, then. I never felt AC2 was too slow anyway.

I didn't find AC2 too hard, but some of the challenges in it seemed crazy. Most missions were pretty straightforward, but I remember one where oyu had to infiltrate a base, and then you got outside and drones and turrets and disorder units would be firing at you from all directions. That was pretty rough.

Also, sometimes it just seemed like I had to out-DPS my enemy and no amount of cleverness or anything would get me through it. Maybe I just never actually understood how to play it though. I beat the final boss using large rockets, which took maybe 5 hits (and felt a bit cheap), but if they didn't connect, it'd be game over for me most likely because most other weapons don't really get the job done. Probably could've handled it better, but I guess my build was no good!

IIRC, the place I stopped at in the arena was against a guy with the dual laser cannons which hit hard and stun you. He'd stunlock me and none of my attacks would come out quick enough to counter him.
I probably just wsn't going about it the right way there either.

As for buying the copies, I just like having them and it's easier to play on PS2 than to deal with emulation and the complications it often brings.

I'm definitely up for a challenge. With the amount of customisation there is in AC, I'm motivated to deal with anything. Maybe I'll do the AC2 arena first though before moving on.
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>>183630590
>Maybe I'll do the AC2 arena first though before moving on.
I highly recommend this.
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>>183630787
Yeah, I feel it'll be a good learning experience and warmup for the rest, plus I'll have properly finished it then!
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>>183630590
>Also, sometimes it just seemed like I had to out-DPS my enemy and no amount of cleverness or anything would get me through it.
We all have those kinds of stories here in /acg/. I beat Nineball Seraph in Master of Arena with two lucky hits from that huge missile (the one that does 9000 damage), and I remember beating Phantasma by getting on top of it.

What I realized once I started playing Nexus, is that you need an AC design just to deal with other ACs. There's no bread-and-butter design that'll work for every mission. So I just made a tank with the back laser cannon, whatever cheap weapons I could get on my left arm, popped out the orbits and went to town. Even the Prototype Pulverizer would die in 3 seconds from the barrage.
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>>183451437
Now that I know how the extractor works, I can do this.
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>>183627818
Nexus also has a 3v1.
>>183631997
>and I remember beating Phantasma by getting on top of it.
Bullcrap, that counts as cleverness. That's the coolest way to beat Phantasma. It's like AC rodeo except you start off the bull and the hard part is getting on the bull because it stops moving once you do so.
>>183626582
I'll go against the grain here and say the PS1 games are worth playing, but come back to them later. Project Phantasma is especially cool.
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>>183633824
There's something special about tricking the AI into doing stupid shit to make defeating them easy, especially when the enemy is specifically an AI.
>in AC1 tricking the Nineball copies to go into a hallway where you're waiting with a pulse cannon
>in AC2AA staying near the area edge to prevent Ultimate Nineball from flying around, backpedal hopping over his blade waves while unloading on him
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>>183633824
Really? I just finished Nexus, I don't remember a 3vs1 on it. Do you remember the mission name? There's a stage on 3 or Silent Line where you fight 3 ACs in the same stage, but it's two fights - 1v1, then 2v1.
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>>183635175
That's similar to how this one is set up. It takes place in a crater or something and I think you're opposing Crest forces. They drop two ACs to fight you and then a big tank. I feel like there might also be turrets or something.
Can't remember the mission name.
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>>183635601
Ah, I remember that one, it's "Ambush Crest HQ Force". I guess they didn't put another 3v1 in a PS2 game because of slowdowns.
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>>183633820
kawaii
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>>183636579
that's more to do with AC2's graphics engine being just horribly unoptimized. I'm sure AC3 through LR can handle 3v1s just fine,
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>>183633824
Oh yeah I'll definitely play the PS1 games as well, at some point.

Also, I've heard a lot of bad things about ACV, but then good things about ACVD. How come? After all, they seem to be very similar. They also seem more like the older games than 4 and 4A, which are of course extremely different.
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>>183637225
>Also, I've heard a lot of bad things about ACV, but then good things about ACVD. How come?

ACV was a solid game engine that was plagued by a ton of problems due to being rushed and unfinished (lack of content, poor parts balance, low framerate, online-only features, no hard mode, team-only multiplayer, poorly translated single player that made no sense story-wise). With the servers shut down, you can't tune weapons or fight most of the post-story bosses anymore, which just now makes it a very weak entry in the series.

ACVD introduced a bunch of changes that completely fixed all of those problems, most notably the UnAC system and Hardcore mode, and the servers are still online. Same game engine, but the added features make it a completely improved experience across the board.

ACV is worth watching a playthrough of the story missions to see some of the cutscenes (the voice acting is great even if the story is dumb) but for gameplay its entirely skippable.
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>>183637656
>poorly translated single player that made no sense story-wise
what didnt make sense?
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>>183637881
The first three story missions all take place at seemingly random times where you fight for what appears to be 3 different groups of people, with no explanation about how you get from one to the other. Around the third or fouth story mission it goes more linearly but I honestly still have no idea what's up with everything before that. The lack of proper briefings before missions seriously hurt ACV's story.
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>>183638161
If I remember correctly, the 1st mission is an introductory sample of the 9th mission, The 2nd mission is the start of the story with you working with the corporation, and the 3rd story takes place a year after the 2nd with you fighting for the resistance.
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>>183638540
it would be nice if any of that was explained before the mission like they are in all the other games
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>>183637656
Aw. Well that's unfortunate.
Not sure if I should play V at all. I think it's rather cheap though, so maybe I'll play it anyway.

Is the music still as weird and interesting and great as in AC2?
I believe Kota Hoshino is still a mainstay at From, yeah? His music can be odd, but in a great way like in both AC2 and EverGrace. I believe he doesn't have a musical education, which only goes to show that genius doesn't require it.
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>>183639685
>Is the music still as weird and interesting and great as in AC2?
More rock influenced, less atmospheric/ambient. Still good.

>I believe Kota Hoshino is still a mainstay at From, yeah?
Yep. For AC4/FA/V/VD however they put together a rock band (FreQuency) for some of the guitar driven work.
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>>183639685
>Is the music still as weird and interesting and great as in AC2?

I think so
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>>183640056
>More rock influenced, less atmospheric/ambient. Still good.
A lot of music in AC2 was also various electronic music. Some DnB, and techno/trance-ish stuff too.
Also tracks by this guy called Mijk van Dijk. I wonder why he was in so many Japanese games around that time. Great tracks though.

https://youtu.be/RsxlZVUwyNM

I love electronic music, but the soundtrack was a product of its time and I imagine it's much less like that now. The genres from back then simply don't really exist anymore or at least not in the same form anyway.

>Yep. For AC4/FA/V/VD however they put together a rock band (FreQuency) for some of the guitar driven work.
I heard some of it before. Good stuff. I heard a vocal track from VD once which was pretty great too. Emotional music.
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Now that I can inject emblems, I've upgraded my boring emblem from AC2.
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Fresh G:A image. Capsule is about a 2-meter tall Minecraft Steve for scale.
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is Brigador /acg/ or should I fuck off and keep looking
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>>183645991
it's the best you're gonna get
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If Brigador ever gets mod support I'm going ham on that shit
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>>183641301
>Emotional music.

while AC has good music, I dont think there is emotinal music on it.
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http://wikiwiki.jp/cwcheat/?ARMORED%20CORE%203%20Portable

Whoof that's a lot of content.

Thanks Japan, hope it works in the US version. ; _;
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>>183649015
I beg to differ. Having just finished AC3, the music that plays in the end cinematic as humanity is freed to return to the surface is rather emotional, with how soft it is as the vocals swell to the sun rising over the abandoned cities.
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>>183649732
>Rock On
Don't mind if I do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-kYiDbG39s
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>>183649015
Well I wouldn't know. AC2 has one track I'd call emotional.
And the only VD track I know of also seems rather emotional!

https://youtu.be/WKyowLT1_zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jthXb99iZk
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>>183649732
>Camera position
>Can't use it
>Can't find the default value of 41000000
someone pls help, if this is FOV control it'd be way cool for replay screenshots
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Every now and then new pilot show up in the Arena roster at the bottom and of course they have no chance and I only get like 11k dollars, so... what's the point? Just some added lore? Do I get anything for defeating absolutely everyone at some point?
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L-Trigger Boost, R-Trigger Quick Boost

Unstoppable pressure.
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>>183652490
Some of them are the consorts from the game.
They're just extra fights that pop up while you're not looking.
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>>183652490
They're meant to soften you up when the superboss of the arena shows up. Kind of a red herring to throw you off. think of it like Akira toriyama and his view of powerlevels, and how he didn't want people to judge characters based solely on some arbitrary number.
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How likely is it that From does the AC collection? Which games would it include? Let us face it we all know they aren't going to include every single game if they did this.
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>>183664025
Probably just AC-MoA, I'd like a complete remaster of everything in 3rd gen, but I doubt they'd do that with 5 game.
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>>183664025
One issue is that AC1-AC2AA seems to be a separate timeline from AC3-ACLR, so trying to combine all the games into one narrative might not be possible. Grouping them as two separate collections would be awesome though, or at least doing a remaster collection for each generation.
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Garrison: Archangel update

https://indigogaming.itch.io/garrison-archangel

Reworked the boost system and rebalanced some guns.
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Another one done, time to move to AC3SL, probably one of my favorites. Luckily, you don't need to S rank all missions to get 100% completion. Once I'm done with all of these I plan on doing a big image with the evolution of each variant I used.
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>>183678191
>so trying to combine all the games into one narrative might not be possible
They wouldn't even attempt it. They would do it like Nexus where the AC1 remake missions were just on a separate disc with their own story unrelated to the main disc.

>>183652490
they're consorts that got upgraded to pilots. You need to beat them to get the whole arena unlocked, but if they die in a mission they won't show up in the arena until the end of the game.
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bump

>>183681384
100% completion is actually like 117% isn't it
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>>183664025
Unfortunately, there's one big reason that re-releases and remasters aren't likely to happen for the older AC games. Too many publishers in different regions, and in order for it to happen, they'd all need to agree to it. And I'm not even sure some of those companies even exist anymore.
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>>183689661
I don't think they're bound to their old publishers. I don't know what their contracts look like but I doubt that that would be a problem. Besides, technically, the HD collection is a new game and a new product.

But if they want to release internationally, some questions remain:
Who made the localisation for each Armored Core game and can From get the rights to it, if they don't already have them?
Or will From get Bandai Namco or some other publisher to localise these games anew?
Or will they just do it themselves?

And then there's also the voice acting. Maybe they could reuse the old EN VA, or re-record it, or they'll just use the JP VA, but the latter is apparently also a nightmare to do.
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>>183649732
Comparing JP and US cwcheats to figure out if I can just shift the address of some of these more obscure cheats like changing bullet type and camera control.
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>>183696101
lmao
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>>183696423
They seem to do the usual machine gun damage except they're slower and wave around in the air and they seem to track a little?

If I can find a purple projectile... whoof...
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>>183696737
>CWM-TITAN nuclear missiles
I no longer have a framerate.
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get fucked
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The address to alter to change right weapon projectile is 0x204737A4 but when I go there in the memory viewer it's just ?? ?? ?? ?? everywhere

What the fuck
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_C0 Camera Angle Low
_L 0x20473B9F 0x00000000
_C0 Camera Angle High
_L 0x20473B9F 0x88000000

Not sure this is exactly right but it's what I managed to get for Armored Core 3 Portable.
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>>183701654
Hope to find distance from the mech so I can put the camera on the head or zoom out a lot. Maybe even FOV.
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>>183649015
I always thought Day After Day was pretty emotional, seeing as how it plays when you're forced to fight her and eventually kill her.
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>>183704917
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>>183707563
SD Gundam was a mistake
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bump i can't upload images bump
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0x08C73BA3 is camera height in big steps. 41 is default, don't adjust it too much. Only go up to like 45 but you can go all the way down to 0.
0x08C73BA2 is camera height in fine adjustments. Default is 36?
0x08C73BA1 is camera height is very fine adjustments. Default is 66.
0x08C73BA0 is either camera height in extremely fine adjustments or nothing. Default is 66.
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Put the camera all the way down and looked up until it looped back around.
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>>183704917
Day after Day plays when you fight Maggy? Didnt she have her own track for the fight?
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>>183720491
Blue Magnolia to be specific.
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>>183720491
DLC soundtrack plays Day After Day. Regular plays Forgiveness for an Angel.
>>183711697
Oh crap, I'd forgotten that existed. And that I watched it.
>>183697161
>>183697449
Hot dang. Do want.
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>>183729349
And hot damn was Forgive an Angel good
https://youtu.be/AhsRrlFPR_M
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tfw you change one value in ac3p's memory and the whole damn emulator crashes
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Any info on Armored Core 3 projectile speeds? I want to be sure some changes I make are just aesthetic and not actually giving me an advantage.
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>>183689143
After getting minimum of A rank on all missions, I can confirm that the achievement percentage does not change.
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Armored Core Silent Line
Silent Line Armored Core
Armored Core 3 : Silent Line
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>>183740693
>Armored Core 3: Silent Line
This is the proper title! Although in the West they took out the 3! Which maybe is a good idea unless it's directly related to 3.

I wonder why they went with [subtitle: title] for Silent Line, Formula Front and Another Age though. I mean, it looks cool, but they didn't stick with it. With the exception of SL they always changed it in the West anyway, because of brand recognition maybe. I guess in Japan they don't have to worry about that as much.
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>>183740693
Armored Core 4 Answer
Armored Core For Answer
Armored Core 4: Answer
Armored Core 4: 4 Answer
Armored Core 4: For Answer
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https://media.giphy.com/media/iDEJbmGOd6NdS/giphy.mp4
>that chain
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>dumb orbs floating up a shaft
>retry it like nine times
>finally get it
>crest gives up anyway
i don't have enough middle fingers
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>>183729349
>DLC soundtrack
that explains why I didnt know about it
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>Huntress turns on me
>Facade or whoever shows up
>I'm piloting the ACortionist
No chance! That's what you had! You're fuckin done!
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y'all actually listen to the soundtrack? as an american, armored core is way more industrial rock than this pussy beethoven does techno shit.

armored core is like ministry's dark side of the spoon
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>>183753013
What are you on about?
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>>183753013
and your point is?
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>>183753981
point is it sucks, that's all
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>>183754323
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>>183754523
i'm gay, this is a hatecrime

you're hatecriming me
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>>183759656
At last. I appear when the Shitter is here. There's no where to hide now.
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>>183762509
b goes to b+ed at 2, you just missed him
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>>183762561
>you just missed him
What!? Go wake the Shitter up or I'll.... feast on you instead anon!
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>>183762790
i'm anemic
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>>183768351
>>183771367
How does it feel being a slave?
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>>183753013
The orchestral stuff post-ACLR didn't do it for me. It was nice music, but AC needed more techno beats and industrial tracks. My personal favs were tracks like Monkey Likes Daddy, Milk, At that time, Artificial line, In my Heart, Beat Box, and that one track that plays when you fight Nineball which ditched all regular conventions in AC music and just went full on hard rock.
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>>183772214
I don't recall being a slave.
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>>183772308
You are a slave to page 10, and a coward on the battlefield. You are the same as B Ranker.
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>>183773017
Hah, i wish. I'm alot weaker compared to B Ranker. In my short time with /acg/ on 4A, I had to be lucky to score a kill, much less a win.
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Is Gundam Breaker 3 any good on Vita or should I get the PS4 version? I heard it's got some good mech customisation and that's really all I want from a mech game but I don't really want to shell out £50 for the PS4 version
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Oh yeah, Armored Core would have PSF format music and vgmtrans can export SF2s and MIDIs from those.

No idea what the original's music sounds like but it oughta be neat?
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>>183762790
>>183765615
It's dumb shit like this that keeps me coming back
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>>183773450
The customization is pretty shallow, just a few different parts of each kind, but compared to other gundam games it is quite a bit better and closer to AC.
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>>183742476
In the west they have a habit of downplaying the numbers because there's no brand recognition. They want people to think that they're playing the first in the series each time because players are less likely to buy something that seems like a sequel to a game they never heard about.
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Holy shit the requirements to unlock some of the parts in AC3SL are fucking ridiculous. This game's going to take a while to 100%.
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In 3rd gen, is it better to have a high or low 'Reaction Speed' stat on arms? I can't tell which is better for rapid fire weapons.
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>>183793524
Nevermind, 'Reaction Speed' is how fast you swipe with a blade, where lower is faster.
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9th parterino of FM4 is uperino.

https://youtu.be/V3nJvniUZnk
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>>183786893
Oh yeah, definitely.
I think it's fine when they do it to games that aren't directly connected. The PS2 Ace Combat games in Europe don't have numbers, but it's fine because while playing them in order is definitely recommended they can easily stand on their own too.

But with the timeline/setting confusion in AC when it comes to the AC1/2, 3 and 4 and V universes, it would've made sense to keep the numbers. Even in Japan they didn't do it really. LR and Nexus don't have 3 in the title either but are technically in the same universe IIRC.

Maybe the assumption is that any game that comes out after a numbered one is connected to it until a new numbered game comes along.
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>>183797913
The numbers aren't a reflection of storyline. They're about game engines / save data transfer. Nexus is the one exception because while they did update enough that save data could no longer be transferred, it was still (approximately) the same game engine.
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*PUTS ON THE "VR GOGGLES"*
I'M REALLY IN. THE SHIT NOW BOYS.
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>>183803372
Use 1st person camera, report results.
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>>183805362
>>183803372
VR wouldn't work with AC's first person because there's no forced perspective.
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>>183805362
>>183805553
THIS LACK OF DEPTH PERCEPTION IS EXACTLY HOW. MY MAN. MAJIMA LIVES HIS LIFE.
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Mmmmm... Armored Core and Front Mission both use chords that have their 7ths and 9ths down an octave so there's two notes a semitone from each other for more dissonance. That's a cool thing I can pick up and try to use.

Some wicked breakbeat action happening in the Armored Core main menu music with 48th trills on the hihats before the fourth bar, and on the second fourth bar the snare is delayed by an eighth to break up the monotony and drive into the next bar.
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>>183773305
I only got kills because I spend my time quickboosting at the side of the map and just going in when I saw 2 people or more already busy killing each other
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Hey any of you know of a tool like http://raing3.gshi.org/psp-utilities/generators that'll generate cwcheats if you give it a starting address and a bunch of hex values to insert?

The cwcheat I want to make is too big for this thing's seemingly arbitrary limit and if I can get this thing to work I can get some cool stuff to happen for us.
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Glitched out of the test arena lads.
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>>183815125
HOW?
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>>183815390
_L 0x2010AF5B 0x00000005

Don't think I found the right address for what I want but it sure does *something*.
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>>183637225
>Also, I've heard a lot of bad things about ACV, but then good things about ACVD.
5 is very different from 4 which made people hate it (it's hard to look good compared to fA) and by the time VD came out everyone got used to it plus of course they polished it more. I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with 5, I beat it a week ago so my impressions are fresh. The idea with long missions with checkpoints/cutscenes was cool, that's something that you won't find in 4 and VD. I liked the story in 5 more than VD, VD largely piggybacks of 4 by introducing the technology from that era a bit and it also hooks you in by revealing technology from 4, so it's like a big mystery, what happened to the world? But the actual encounters were more interesting in 5 I believe. You can dig out some interesting stuff about the world and characters if you play thew side mission. You can also import the save to VD and get all your parts (so don't forget to by everything you can before doing so since you can't carry over the money).
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>>183823338
>>183826786
Das nice.
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The introduction of AST weapons in SL makes my dps calculations a little more interesting. I'm going under the assumption that the time between shots in the burst is half of the normal reload time. So a AST rifle with a three round burst and half second reload shoots three rounds every second (shot,1/4s,shot,1/4s,shot,1/2reload).
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>>183827705
Only problem with the AST weapons is your lock-on stops tracking during the burst, which is less than ideal.
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>>183812641
Still ain't found anything like this that'll let me make a 2048 line cwcheat, which I def don't want to make manually.
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live
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>>183828428
Bullshit my way through making LibreCalc, HxD, and Notepad++ do what I want.

Hope it works and that I got the offsets right for this 4096 line cheat!
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>>183831653
Didn't get the offsets right, gotta add 177FFFFD to them all I think.

Gotta figure out how to do that.
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For fuck's sake LibreCalc, why the cocksucking shit are you not maintaining the 8 character limit? It's exactly how I imported it, why are some longer or shorter?

God fucking damn this piece of shit.
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>>183833242
At least it fucked up kinda funny.
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Live.
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I'm coming for you Mobius, just you wait.
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so like

you're the robot, right? you don't see the cockpit or the pilot.
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>>183842124
You're the pilot in the robot, you can see your pilot in VD.
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>>183842239
aren't the games different timelines? i think you're the robot in armored core 3 and earlier timelines.
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>>183842124
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>>183844257
>the last raven is a human
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>>183842334
AC1 -> AC2AA is one universe
AC3 -> ACLR is a different universe
Both take place after an event called The Great Destruction
AC4 -> ACfA take place before The Great Destruction
AC5 -> ACVD take place just after The Great Destruction

In AC1 -> ACLR, you are a pilot known as a Raven who pilots the Armored Core robot.
In AC4 -> ACfa you are a pilot known as a Lynx who pilots the NEXT robot.
I haven't played through the 5th gen games yet so I don't know the terminology.
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>>183844257
That's Zinaida, not the player character. You can be whatever kind of pilot you want, be it flesh or AI.
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>>183846568
>In AC4 -> ACfa you are a pilot known as a Lynx who pilots the NEXT robot.

Just to be exact, on 4 you are called Raven, since the MC is suppose to be a ex-normal pilot stuck on a NEXT, as derogative term, other LYNXs dont call him LYNX, but you manage to prove your worth.

on FA you are a full LYNX

>I haven't played through the 5th gen games yet so I don't know the terminology.

There isnt really one, on 5 you are called rookie, and star pilot; and on the future you are remembered as the "Dark Raven"; on VD you are mostly a merc, but with the whole deal of possibly being a dominant and also being the next "dark raven" you could say you claim the Raven title at the end.
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>>183664025
at the very least: another age, silent line, last raven
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>>183664025
I bet that if the go with the idea, FROM probably will make a new game instead of remastering, but in such way that any oldfan will realize the whole game is just one big reference/copy of the older games. You know, just using new designs, change the names of characters, but missions, plot, even setting will be the same.
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>Gotta survive a laser gauntlet
>Then fight a fast shotgun AC
:D Fuck
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>>183848671
fuck S ranking this I'm taking the C
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>>183849802
Sooooo, can we call you C Ranker?
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>>183850156
My bio says I'm A rank so far
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RIP my life, I'm playing a vanilla wow server called Elysium.
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>>183850671
idiot

idiot dummy
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>>183850671
>playing WOW in the first place
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>>183340894
>>183448840
Important AC3 info
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Hye guys, I got my hand on my friend's PS3 again, can we have FA night again?
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>>183853954
You faggot, I was counting on you not having that.
>>183850671
>RIP my life, I'm playing a vanilla wow
You both make me disappoint. You two need to be like the music analysis guy or the dude hacking the crap out of AC3P.
>>183848671
I told you about Spectre, bro.
I think.
Assuming you're the same guy.
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>>183854506
>>183854506
But I'm the Front Mission 4 Uploader and webm maker guy senpai.
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Mobius has been stripped of his title.

I always loved his design over Ace, both the aesthetic and it actually being a practical AC.
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>>183853954
Sure, just need to post a date that is best for us to play on.
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>>183856370
why's the screen so blurry, this has been bugging me for a while

i keep thinkin my glasses are dirty so i lean in real close and look over them
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>>183856339
>>183854506

>tfw I have nothing more than bumps at my name

Should I kill myself or something?
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>>183856903
Might be the emulation and that the graphical UI elements are stretched because of the widescreen hacks.
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>>183854506
>music analysis guy or the dude hacking the crap out of AC3P
That's both me.

If you see a good post, that's me. I made it.
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>>183857007
Ranker you're our threads' mascot, it wouldn't be as fantastic and friendly without you
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>>183857743
>threads' mascot

I dont know how to feel about that honestly.

Also I had the small feeling I was this or something similar, with all the shit about me being someone's waifu and the my hater. Still dont know how to fell about it.
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>>183858498
Just embrace it.

Or try to level up and become A+ Ranker.
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>>183856370
Is the top AC pilot in the arena an anime-fag?
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>>183859780
giving the big amount of weirdos in the arena across all the games, I wouldnt be surprised.
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>>183861471
>that one guy who wanted to be 11th place because he had a boner for the number 1 and 11 had twice as many 1's than first place

I think anime would be a return to normalcy compared to some of these loons.
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>>183863101
I remember also a former F1 or something racer, a yo-yo champion, that one girl fighting to earn money for her family, Killdozer using a fucking NEXT as a glorified demolition machine, Takafumi fucking Arisawa a CEO of on of the ruling companies, the beehive guys from V, and their succesors on VD, the iron path and many more weirdos.

A animefag piloting a AC so he could live his dream after watching countless mecha shows is probably normal.
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>>183859780
it's a player, they used an emblem creator
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>>183857007
I'm the only one allowed to kill you B Shitter

So... you want to play FA? That'll be your grave and everyone will watch.
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>>183863889
You just missed him, B goes to B+ed at 1. He must have his phone with him for a few final posts.
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>>183863889
>>183863978
the amount of close calls with timing makes me still think that B+ Ranker is the same person as the one calling him out
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>>183863978
You are starting to creep me out with this "B facts", are you a stalker? or is just me and the trauma of school kicking in?.
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>>183864226
Just a coincidence, reality is stranger than fiction after all, but yeah I am going to bed now, night little ravens
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>>183864226
Because this >>183865760 pathetic being is afraid to speak whenever I'm around. He goes into hiding like a roach until it's clear to come out. He and the other false faces here are all weaklings.
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>>183866689
>false faces
you're the one hiding behind drama and won't post their PSN

I'm guessing denvercityskies
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>>183863725
It's a player? You mean some Japanese player was immortalised in the game?

That's possible, I'm not sure if it's related but I think they have AC tournaments in Japan too, don't they? Or they used to, maybe that's how they got in?
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>>183850671
I remember downloading a wow server software, making it run on my own PC, connecting to 127.0.0.1 from the client and playing wow alone like a singleplayer game.
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>>183863650
Most heartwarming one was Regina and Trooper. A father/daughter sticking together isn't something you see every day.
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Let's hit 700 lads
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>>183871568
No. I used the emblem extractor/injector tool here >>183340894 to inject the image here >>183450335 into my AC3 save, and carried it over to AC3SL. I throw it on for fun when I'm going through the arena because it reflects my arena playstyle.

The only time players or people were imortalized in the game were in ACMoA, where you had the ex arena of tournament winners, an ex arena of designs from various magazines, and the ex arena of From Software employees.
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>>183871568
From Project Phantasma up to Silent Line, the player has a prewritten arena entry that changes every so often.
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which psp armored core is the best

no opinions allowed, just facts
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>>183897978
LR.

AC3 and SL are worse adaptations with less intuitive menus (LR maintains pretty much the entire PS2 menu interface, AC3 and SL lose some things) and LR is the better produced and more exciting game of the three. AC3 is better if you're starting out though, because of LR's difficulty.

In the long run though, LR wins every time.
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>Last Raven portable
>Ghosting
>Mild vaseline
You son of a bitch FromSoft
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Is there any reason to not convert an Armored Core 3 save for Last Raven on PSP? I get most of my guns and parts but am I missing anything from starting completely new?
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>>183899285
vaseline?
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>>183899405
I don't know if Portable does this, but in the PS2 version, Last Raven starts you off with a fair chunk of money if you don't import. Not that it's worth it, you'd have to import very little to come out with less than the pity money.
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>>183900032
Blur
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>>183899405
You miss out on the challenge of starting off without part.
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>>183900910
screenshot?

It might seem to depend on what video card and backend you're using.

There's probably a cheat fix for the graphics if you ask nicely on the PPSSPP forums
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how old is everyone in /acg/?
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>>183902123
No it's just part of the game, other people have mentioned it on PSP and PPSSPP forums.

No fix for it yet, I might ask but it's probably a big undertaking to figure out what needs to be changed where.

Don't really want to boot up ACLR right now and skip through all the cutscenes and bull, you gotta just take my word on it.

>>183902552
24
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>>183902552
22
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Part 10.

https://youtu.be/nAly4QGqlLg

>>183902552
21
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>>183902552
Also 24.

AC fans tend to fall into four categories

>Got into the series at 10-13 with MoA/AC2, making them 27-30 years old now
>Got into the series at 10-13 with NX/LR, making them 24-27 now
>Got into the series at 10-13 with AC4/ACFA, making them 22-23 now
>Got into the series at 14-18 with Dark Souls, making them 17-21 now

Most are category 2 or 3. Oldfags are category 1, newfags are category 4. I'm 24.
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>>183903748
My first AC game was AC2AA and I was like 8 or 9.
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>>183904257
I think that makes you an outlier, because AC is a bit mature for an 8 year old, given that they're Teen rated.

AC2 and AA had lots of staying power though because of the Greatest Hits re-issue, meaning that you could still buy new copies off the shelf all the way into 2005, so I think a lot of people got started there
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>>183904432
Yeah, I had a hard time with the mission briefing and would get one of my parents to explain some of it to me, lmao.

But I was just so fascinated by the gameplay and customization of the game. I played the game for hours and hour and hours.
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>>183902552
31
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>>183899285
The ghosting doesn't show up in promotional screenshots and videos, are you sure it's not the emulator?
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>>183902552
26

First AC game was AC2 when I borrowed it off a kid at school. First one I owned was AC3 if I recall correctly.
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>>183902123
Sadly, this is a big issue with the PSP versions. I can verify because I own all three of them.
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>>183910112
Yeah.
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>>183910863
Jesus Christ how horrifying.
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>>183910863
that's just JPG image quality though.

Set your rendering mode to "Skip buffer effects"
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>>183914789
I guarantee 100% JPEG doesn't create motion bur on the edges.

Also disabling buffer effects turns boosters into black rectangles.
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>>183914997
>Also disabling buffer effects turns boosters into black rectangles.

that's what the PPSSPP team needs to fix.

The motion blur /depth of field is part of the game though. It's on the PS2 version also. Someone might be able to throw together a hack that removes it.
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>>183915162
The boosters are a buffer effect, the sprite is rendered to the buffer and overlaid on the image. Buffer effects not appearing when buffer effects are skipped doesn't seem like something you fix.
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>>183891979
>>183885134
Oh, so that's what it is.

>The only time players or people were imortalized in the game were in ACMoA
A shame! It's such a cool idea desu.
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Pick the next game for me

Just beat Nexus and Nine Breaker
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>>183916842
2
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>>183915438
I mean someone needs to make an AC-specific hack /cheat that replaces the buffer effect with something else so that non-buffered rendering still shows booster effects.

Or fix the ghosting of the HUD. I know other games have CWCheats to fix graphics ghosting.
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>>183916842
If you haven't played it yet, LR, since it's a sequel to nexus.

If you have played LR already, Silent Line.
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>>183902552
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18 posts to go

start dumping your fanart, I need a new wallpaper
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>>183902552
i was 8 when armored core was released
>>183916842
fucking last raven jesus christ
then armored core 1, or 4/for answer
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>>183916842
>that AC4 cover art

Whoever did that needs to be fired.
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>>183916842
>6 publishers

What in the actual fuck?
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>>183938219
More than just that if you count multiple regions:


>From Software
>Sony (AC1 international)
>ASCII Entertainment (PP Europe)
>Agetec (AC2 through LR games US)
>505 Games (NX through AC4 games EU)
>Crave Entertainment (AC2 EU)
>Metro 3D (AC2AA, AC3, EU)
>Sega (AC4 US)
>Ubisoft (AC4/FA US)
>Bandai Namco (ACV/VD Worldwide)
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What if there was an Apple corporation in Armored Core and they said shit like "There are no bad pilots, only bad ACs."
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What if we had... fashioncore stuff? Like we all had a theme and we did our best to follow it.

Cheating definitely allowed, get all the parts you could possibly want for the sake of fashion. What about texture replacements?

Chances are PSP versions will be the most popular since PPSSPP would make it way easier and it's the most accessible since it's not tied to physical hardware like 360 or PS3 or computationally expensive to emulate instruction sets like PS2
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Just recorded the 11th part in the FM4 playthrough and boy am I fucking salty right now.
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>>183943235
There used to be regular Design Contests where people would rate ACs, but nothing of note since the PSP games became emulate-able.

We could do a LR design contest in the next thread maybe.

For designs though, ACV and ACFA by far has the most variety and complexity because of their decal systems. No cheats in any games can match the amount of control you have with those
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>>183945563
PPSSPP texture replacement at least but it's kinda difficult knowing what goes where and the low resolution textures is yet another challenge.

Just got a fully complete save from GameFAQs to check out everything Last Raven has to offer, which is a lot. Don't care much for the part going invisible in the preview or the lag from loading in a new item though, or the screen effects.

The random color option is really cool though. Had to move some colors around on the legs and torso but it spit out a pretty good set. I'm so colorful...
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>>183945563
Well, how about a different game every time?
>>183933182
I actually like it. Heck of a lot better than FA's copypasta bonanza.
>>183941808
>sells parts that the other corporations sell, they just look more sleek, have almost unnoticeable stat changes, and have different names
>and cost twice as much
>and can't be tuned
Perfect.
>>183902552
Old enough that I have age-related anecdotes for the express purpose of dancing around this question and keeping people guessing.
>>183866830
If it is, he's putting a ton of effort into masking his posting style.
Come to think of it, it feels kind of like Relief, but sense tells me that's very unlikely.
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Last Raven feels a lot different from 3...

Is it just the different parts?
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>>183945563
I got it!

How about every thread we do a different theme and game? We could have people submit their designs and everyone vote on their favorite based on
>Fashioncore
>Practicality
>Emblem
Maybe give it a 0 - 10 scoring for each one and average out everyone's total?
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New bread.

>>183947507
>>183947507
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>>183947148
Different mechanics, different movement, different a lot of things. Engine is still the same, I believe.
Boosting adds heat now.
Heat hurts less, but will eat your energy and output instead of just your output.
More left hand options.
Break system added for frame parts.
No OP-I.
More things I can't think of right now.
>>183947316
Drop highest and lowest scores, average remainder, don't vote for your own submission. Last one's tricky to enforce unless someone wants to volunteer to be a slave to the design contest.
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