/acg/ - Armored Core General

first for Garrison: Archangel

:y

1000 round machine gun and quick burst linear rifle is the Last Raven version of AC3's 1000 round machine gun and howitzer isn't it

I'm getting the feeling that this is the arena setup

>>183947316
Good idea

>>183947507
ACLR DESIGN CONTEST

For this entire thread any screencaps of Last Raven ACs posted that reply to this post will be up for voting. At 500 posts (or if we hit the image cap limit), entries will close and voting will begin for the last 250 posts. Winners announced in the next thread. Pics can include just the AC, or the AC plus the emblem.

IN GAME IMAGES ONLY. You can use an emblem replacer or any cheat you want but you can't submit artwork.

Each ACs will be graded and rewarded separately for:
>Aesthetic: Purely on the paint, parts, and other design features
>Practicality: How good is this AC at combat? H+ is allowed.
>The story / creativity behind the AC. This includes pilot name, AC name, emblem, and how well it fits into the ACLR universe.

If the thread dies, we'll carry on the post counts to the next one.

ACLRP's vertical look sensitivity is driving me nuts, like I'm scared to just accidentally nudge the stick and then it's all gone. Horizontally it's fine.

Is it just overall sensitivity in PPSSPP and turn speed is limiting the horizontal aiming? Gotta mess with this, this sucks.

>>183948247
No theme or anything? Anything goes this time around?

>>183948409
No theme, anything goes as long as it's ACLR. Better to have lots of entries than to restrict people to a specific theme.

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>>183948247
Don't expect anything from me.

>>183948409
>ACLRP's vertical look sensitivity is driving me nuts, like I'm scared to just accidentally nudge the stick and then it's all gone. Horizontally it's fine.

what buttons are you using for vertical looking?

Horizontal turning is restricted by turning speed but your up/down sensitivity should be about the same as your forward/back/left/right movement senstiivity. It sounds like maybe your controller's buttons overly sensitive from the Xinput wrapper or SCP server.

It might be also that you notice the vertical sensitivity more because LR is widescreen, so there's less space on the top and bottom.

>>183948653
don't be a pussy

>>183948653
you're out there doing god's work with front mission, it's fine

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>>183948716

>>183948702
Internally it's the analog stick, mapped to the 360 analog stick.

>>183949432
Try swapping the map to the other stick and see if it does the same thing.

You can turn sensitivity of the stick down in windows I think.

>>183947748
>Drop highest and lowest scores, average remainder, don't vote for your own submission. Last one's tricky to enforce unless someone wants to volunteer to be a slave to the design contest.

I'd just let people vote for their own and use a google form that limited one vote per IP.

I forgot how great the AC3SL missions were. Some of them long with multiple parts, one of them where you have to avoid the onslaught of the orbital satellite cannon, one where you have to map an area by exploring. The mission design is some of the best in the series.

>>183948247
>Good idea
Hell yeah.

So how about themes after we test the waters with this first build contest? Nothing too restrictive, mind you, but broad subjects that'll keep everything fresh and creative.

How do these sound?
>AC:V - Heroes of Justice
Base your AC around a Super Hero or "Sentai" theme

>A3 - Psst, Nothin' Personel Kid
Make the most edgy and impractical mech possible. Red and black a must

>AC:FA - Tiger & Bunny
Make an AC based on a real-life company or brand along with their respective logo (i.e. Coke-a-Cola, Betty Crocker, Taito, etc.)

>AC: Formula Front - Nippon Ichi
Attempt to recreate a mech of your choice from another franchise

>>183950428
I'll add a theme suggestion for the next one (assuming we get entries) to the voting

>>183948247
Oh, I'd love to join. I hope the old memory card's still working. I haven't touched my PS2 in years. And I'd be damned if I have to 100% LR again.

>>183951356
you can get a 137% save file online, and I think both Cheng and Irregular have complete save files for LR Portable hosted somewhere

>>183952182
>>183951356
https://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/960304-armored-core-last-raven-portable/saves

>>183948247
Are camera photos of our designs allowed if we don't have an emulator save of Last Raven?

>>183952395
It's without a doubt going to impact your score if it makes it look bad.

You can get emulator saves off GameFAQs though if you find any comfort in using an emulator.

>>183952395
Yes. Whatever you upload, as long as it's in-game footage, is accepted.

>>183952307
>>183952182
Thanks. This may come in handy.

>>183948247
>tfw haven't played Last Raven yet

>that PEEL when
x)

Who else working on their mech

anyone is uo for some FA tmorrow's night?

>>183961260
Count me in.

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>>183961260
>anyone is uo for some FA tmorrow's night?
False Faces, welcome to earth.

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This can't possibly be the best I can make it, though Patlabor's more Gundam-shaped than AC-shaped.

>Dual revolver isn't viable for Arena

>>183963756
Only because of the low ammo.

Try dual H3s.

>>183963756
>>183964146
Find something that can smash an opponent's leg and then go dual H3s to stunlock them to death.

This kills the lightweight.

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Attention you False Fucks; tomorrow night one of your own will die by my hand. Step down or you'll be next.

Ha, I've been waiting a long time for this.

>>183948240
Back weapon version of the linear cannon + flamethrower + orbits = death

>>183964540
i'm going to bed

Why do the lightweight cores always look so long and spiky and shit?

I would have thought the lightest ones would be the most compact ones...

Which mission(s) did you guys have the most difficulty getting a Gold medal in Nine Breaker?

I just realized that I got a Gold on Overall: Melee (the final mission), and still didn't clear Proper Distance. What the fuck.

>>183964839
aerodynamics

>>183964839
The chaingun coming out of the torso is kinda jarring - I wish we could take it out, maybe make it an optional part?

>>183964928
No Radar & No Lock-on 5
Proper Distance 4 and 5
Evade SP missiles 5

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>>183964928
Get to it, Anon, you're going to love it!

>>183964980
But the ACs usually slouch a bit whenever they boost around. If we're talking aerodynamics, you can't go worse than a ling protruding "wing" at an obtuse angle to your boost vector...

>>183965098
I have never figured out how to fire the gun on the chest.

>>183964928
Hardest: Proper Distance
Easiest: Run and Defense (easily one of the best training missions)

>>183965280
It's an automatic missile intercept system. Sometimes you'll see some blue laser coming out of your chest and taking a missile out. That's it.

>>183965098
I agree, but what jarred me most was not that there was a chaingun on your chest (which can be cool depending on what you're building), but that it turns out it's actually an APS system, not an actual offensive weapon. The barrel on most of them (especially older gen ACs) are way too huge and long, you'd expect they were autocannons.,,

ACV did sort of remedy this by taking out the core-embedded VS missile and added the CIWS shoulder part, but fuck man, the time we get the separate CIWS is the AC where you can only equip 1 shoulder unit?

Come on, From. It's (was) 2013!

>>183965514
Don't look like no laser I ever seen. :\

Thanks FromSoft.

In a move that I hope doesn't jinx us, hooray for another archived thread!

>>183965098
>>183965280
this:
>>183965514

Cores with AMS all have the little guns coming out in front

>>183965280
Isn't that the thing that intercepts enemy missiles?

>>183965570
>AC where you can only equip 1 shoulder unit?
You can equip dual shoulder units in ACV. Only some arms have single shoulders.

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Speaking of guns on cores,

I long for the day when we can strap shit on more than just the arms or shoulders.

>>183965823
I mean the choice. You can't equip 1 CIWS and then 1 small missile/whatever, can you? It'll just be 2x of whatever 1 thing you picked, if you have 2 shoulder units.

>>183965582
god fucking damn it penny!

>>183965992
You could never do that in any of the games, but yeah, that's a feature it would have been nice to add

I liked the consort system from AC3. Is there any other game in the series that has it?

>>183948247
>>183948247
>>183948247
Reminder:

ACLR DESIGN CONTEST

>>183966093
What? You could very well equip 2 of any shoulder units you wanted in at least the first three gens (I never played AC4 so I would rather not venture an assumption, but it's likely that the same is true there).

How could you forget the godly aesthetics of Multi-missile + Grenade launcher? For shame, Raven.

>>183966115
Silent Line, I think.

>>183966249
Shoulder, not back units.

>>183966115
It's in every game after AC3, except for Nexus, Nine Breaker, and LR.

SL has consorts and lets you create your own AI companion.

AC4 and ACFA have consorts

ACV and VD let you create your own AI or pick an AI NPC. They don't take a cut of your pay but you have to pay their repair /ammo costs.

>>183966216
I will try to post something tomorrow.

>>183966891
Oh, that's right. I meant back units. Wait, that means ACV actually doesn't have back units at all. Fugg, that perspective sounds much worse...

>>183967319
ACV swapped back units for ready position. Same concept except you can't swap them for arm units in mid-battle, you had to purge them first if you wanted to access the arm unit for that arm. But in exchange you got bonuses for kneeling, either higher defense or higher stability.

>>183967474
I miss bringing more than 1 type of missile though... A shame since they added some nifty new types like the AS and VTF missiles.

>>183967708
what about using dual shoulders arms so you can equip 2 missiles types?

How is it that so many people have positive things to say about armored core and yet... the sale numbers suggest that these people have never played the games?

>>183968198
As I said, using 2 shoulder arms just doubles the same shoulder unit you picked.

Which can be worse for missiles, because, for whatever arcane reason, equipping missiles on 2 shoulder units doubles its launch capacity, but _NOT_ its ammo store.

>>183968410
Piracy?

>>183968410
Because most of Armored Core's sales were pre-internet culture and multiplayer, meaning that aside from being influential/innovative on a lot of other mech games, they never really got media coverage outside of Japan.

Now that dark souls is out, a lot of people are going back to look at the franchise but there's no new games being sold. The lack of any PC support (where PC is the most popular platform for dark souls) doesn't help.

AC is still niche popular in Japan though, it's second only to gundam in terms of mech game popularity.

The only games you could even buy to support the series are ACV and ACVD, and they're already 4/5 years old and they don't look anything (at a glance) like the "peak" of the series, so most people that praise AC are just emulating it or talking about their memories on PS2.

Okay, imagine this.

Armored Core 6.

- Free to Play -

but Parts are microtransactions

Yay/Nay?

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>>183969234
N O
O

>>183969234
nono, parts are from loot drops you get for doing XP grind in multiplayer, or pay to get a higher chance rate loot drop
and you only get to play multiplayer 3 times per day for free, you can pay for more
and you have to buy a single-player ticket to play the campaign, not free in any way

>>183969487
>>183969865
Okay, okay, I hear you. Now add this:

Arena.

Players bet cash and parts. House (that is, the game) adds ~50% to the stakes. Winner take all.

Spectators can also bet on matches, but cash only.

Yay/Nay?

>>183970020
Can't happen. Literally gambling, which ranges from frowned upon, to straight up illegal, depending on where you live. Unless you mean in-game cash.

That aside, though, I'd be down for it. Would make people put their money where their mouth is.

>>183970020
>>183969234
Nah, here's how you should do it:

Parts can be purchased from the shop based on how much favor you have with a particular faction (including multiplayer matches) but all parts are not unlocked simultaneously. To unlock all the parts with one faction you lose access to parts from another faction. You can buy as many copies of the parts as you want, but the shop doesn't always have them for sale if you aren't favored by the manufacturer

But give parts durability. Even after repair costs are paid for, eventually they stop working if you take too much damage.

That way players are forced to switch factions often to build up a large variety of parts, or spend a lot of time in a single faction to get access to rare ones.

>>183970020
If we're talking mmo style looting then I would be down with a f2p AC with missions giving cash, or parts. But I don't want microtranscation p2w mechanics in the game.

Just add special color palettes and skins for your weapons or parts that you can buy with real money so it keeps the updates and servers alive.

And, a arena gambling systems sounds fun as fuck and it's perfectly legal as long as the items and credits won aren't able to be sold for real life cash.

>>183970616
>Just add special color palettes and skins for your weapons or parts that you can buy with real money so it keeps the updates and servers alive.

literally what they did with ACV/VD and it worked well. Lots of people bought the cosmetic DLC, especially for extra garage slots and operator voices.

>>183970493
>>183970616
I really liked the parts tuning system in AC3, and I could see a system where each company specializes in a specific kind of tuning, aside from the parts they produce. Like Crest can tune your head's DEF and AP up to 10x, but can't tune its energy efficiency, camera performace, etc more than 2x, the opposite is true for Mirage, while Kisaragi specializes in special tuning, like heat consumption, missile guidance, jamming efficiency, and so on.

It'll allow some leverage for hybrid-builds, with mid-tier equipment of 2 or more corporations, but has access to maximum tuning for their parts.

>>183969234
>>183970020
I'm not very keen on an F2P AC game, t b h. Usually, that means it's online-only or something, and what that means for AC, or really any game of that kind, is one day, the servers go down and you can't play no more.

Meanwhile, I can still play stuff like Master of Arena whenever I damn well please. Sure, no one will play with me, but that's what single player is for.

And that's another thing I find that's usually missing in F2P games. They're usually multiplayer exclusive, which is really not AC's forte, though ACV showed a bit of promise in this regard.

>>183972262
I'd take a F2P chromehounds if it was on PC.

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>>183948247
I have a question: can PPSSPP play legitimate roms of Armored Core Last Raven portable?

>>183976874
There's no difference between a pirated and legitimate copy of Last Raven Portable. If you bought your own disc and copied it as an ISO to windows, it would be identical. It's not like a PC game where you need to crack or use some key to get past the DRM, all PPSSPP does is use a file on a hard drive instead of a disc inserted into a disc drive, but it's the same information.

I don't know how you would copy a PSP disc to PC but I'm sure someone out there has made a tool for it so you can make backups of your game discs.

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>>183948247
This is my baby. I love her like she was my own child. And I made the emblem myself. No shortcuts here.

>>183965895
I always thought a hip mounted sniper cannon would be a good way to stabilise it.

*takes my ac through the car wash*

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Awww dude, crab legs for Armored Core

I'd strafe so good

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Maybe if I rip the model with JPCSP I can paint stripes onto the textures in Blender and clean it up a bit in Photoshop...

Not sure I really like it though.

>>183989253
Quads already do that though.

>>183996042
No but

*Crab legs*

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Maybe this will be a cool theme...

Alright, got a lightweight quad with the thousand round machine gun and the gatling gun with the power comparable to a rifle and on the back a lightweight linear rile and a chaingun with improved power, with the widest WS FCS and the VULTURE2 with lowered booster heat and most everything tuned for cooling and energy output, optional parts for wider lock-on and better movement, and the hover boosters.

I think I got a good AC? I'm fucking up the test AC pretty good and I'm moving faster than I can easily control since the analog stick doesn't seem to provide slow turning if I just move it a little bit. I turned down PPSSPP's sensitivity and I'm using the analog stick in ACLR's controls for turning and looking up / down, it's weird. It's only ever nothing or everything.

Armored Core been around, what, a decade by the time Last Raven came out?

And they're still on that 0-200 RGB shit.

Never heard dick about HSL or even HSB color spaces? Never thought oh you know this would be easier if you could set the same hue for a few parts and maybe rotate the hue on these and easily adjust the saturation and brightness to get it all matched.

God, fuck them.

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>>183997045
Hmmm

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>>184002270
Maybe a dumb little wasp emblem.

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>>183948247
This is my AC CICADAHAWK

In game there's stars around the name to fill in space, hope 4chan doesn't strip the unicode.

It's outfitted with the B03-VULTURE2 booster for high boost power at a lowered charge drain in exchange for heat (less than VULTURE), which is handled by boosted cooling through tuning and hasn't been an issue. The FCS is the widest WS available to aid in high-mobility short-range strafing and is in-tune with my left and right arm weapons, which are the 1000 round WR04M-PIXIE2 and rifle-strength machine gun CR-WH79M2. The G02-MAGNOLIA generator keeps CICADAHAWK powered for extended periods of booting and continued hovering through the CR-E98HB auxiliary booster which helps combat flying enemies and locate enemies moving on the ground. On it back is the low-weight linear cannon and the improved attack power chaingun.

Much like a cicada hawk my combat style involves aggressively rushing and circling the enemy, and with the auxiliary hover booster no one is safe on land or in the air, paralyzing the enemy with a barrage of shells until I can bury them with linear cannon shots. The chaingun provides additional power against slower units that don't need to be crippled to be killed.

My aesthetics and playstyle are heavily inspired by the cicada hawk, an otherwise gentle giant wasp that ruthlessly hunts its prey, paralyzing and burying them. Cicada hawks are very common in my area and I watch them whenever I get the opportunity, seeing them roam around fields, inspecting the dirt and following trails, sometimes carrying cicadas larger than their own body.

My pilot name is HotGrits, a reference to the local cuisine and what remains of my enemies: smouldering pieces of gristle.

My emblem is the wasp, a quick and unforgiving predator.

this is how you're supposed to describe all the stuff right, it feels so corny

>>184000635
>Never heard dick about HSL or even HSB color spaces?

HSB is optional in AC4 through ACVD I think.

>>184014903
Damn, HSB was next gen technology

>>184000635
I hate how bleak the colors look no matter how much I try to saturate, especially in 5. I get what they're going for since the world is supposed to be the ultimate shithole in 5, but still.

>>183947507
Is Armored Core a meme-franchise?

>>184024280
Use decals.

>>184024395
what the fuck does that even mean

It's definitely a cult classic franchise.

>>184024395
Kinda. The games are really different from each other, the only constant is the idea behind it = Big robots, fight for big business in a ruined world

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>>183947507
>We can talk about Ace combat as well
I decided to play AC6 because it has idolmaster skins for the planes, never played an AC game before, hopefully I'll like it.

>>184025085
>>184024395
The running trend behind all AC games is the armor and weapon customization, not the fact that they are mechs.

The entire point of armored core was letting players pick their own controls and game play style by giving them trade offs between things that were unable to be changed in other games, like how fast you move or how much you can carry. Fitting all those parts onto a single game disc was armored core's main innovation. Where other games maybe had 2 or 3 stats to trade off of, armored core had hundreds.

The only reason they used mechs because robots were easier to develop since they used fewer polygons (which allowed them to make the game third person instead of first person), and once they got better at developing they started applying those ideas to non-mech games.

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dengen released a preliminary look at the questionnaire results for their magazine's 20th AC anniversary feature, but the images are so small I can't read them.

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/563/1563889/

anyone want to try to find some higher res scans of the magazine?

>>184034248
Got a lead with a person I'm asking but I wouldn't hold my breath

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>>184037781
Actually they might have gotten it from the Amazon listing's preview, which I just got this from.

>>184034248

>>184034248
What are the quedtions?

>>184025098
Hibiki best idol

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>>183948247
How fashionable am I /acg/?

>>184039672
That's not Yukiho.

>>184040292
You need the combat and weapon description and story and pilot name and all.

>already gone through a quarter of the submission time
Holy crap.
>>184039672
Hibiki the very best.
>>184025098
6 is pretty good, but this begs the question:
Why exactly is that in the OP, anyway? There is an Ace Combat General.
>>184024739
Decals can only go so far in fifth gen, only up to about half of the surface on any given part can display a decal.
>>184002270
>>184007040
>>184009161
Let there be peace in the world.

I simply can't beat Rosie in AC2's arena! ;_;
What are you supposed to do about overheating damage?

>>184041395
Get a better radiator.
Get hit less.
Kill her first.

>>184041395
Damage race

>>184041760
>>184042007
It's the ol' DPS race huh. Fine by me. I almost got her a few times but she is a ridiculously good shot with her sniper rifle from all distances and she is able to manoeuvre behind me in a head-on engagement because she's just faster. Missiles aren't great because she has missile interceptors, as do I, but mine don't always work. ;_;

It feels really good to hit her with the blade though, it does great damage! It's just very rare that the opportunity arises.

I think I am using probably the best radiator there is, so with the current build I think I should be able to do it. My weapons just aren't great. Maybe rockets could help, but precise aiming at the PS2 resolution is a tall order.

>>184042648
Have you considered fighting her in a different location?

>Do the missions where you face off against 2 ACs at once
>Bring customized UNAC, programmed to always run away and avoid damage
>Enemy always peels away and engages us 1 vs 1
>Kill the both piecemeal
i-it's not cheating if I still do most of the work, r-right?

>>184043232
Tried a lot of different ones. Almost got her a few times in the dark one with the starry sky by getting a few shots in and blasting off behind cover or just far away from her.

I think my best chances lie in the dome. It's pretty enclosed so missiles are rather shit there and aiming rockets or whatever, and hitting blade attacks should be easier to do.

I also discovered today that overboosting is actually very useful. I don't think it's ever been useful in the story and it's pretty underwhelming, but as soon as you strafe it becomes incredible. Can't believe I've been missing out on that.

Don't die.

>>184040292
Post stats you fuck

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I never realized that first person AC was so fun, holy shit.

>>184048090
>>184040516

Lore time. AC Rising Star is the definition of style over substance. The product of a botched marketing campaign set up by the producers of a now defunct idol group. After seeing the overlap between arena fans and idol groupies, Rising Star was sent into the arena to advertise. With it's NIOH parry blade and the REMORAH auxiliary booster it blindly forces itself at enemies while launching a wall of bullets with SILKY EN Machinegun. Without backing from the production company the Raven in control of Rising Star is simply "doing his best".

>>184043251
That's called 'tactics'. Divide and conquer.

>>184048093
It's cool until you're running dual machine guns and can't see anything over the gunfire effects. Tried it once in AC3SL.

That said, it was super useful in the PS1 arena because the field of view isn't nearly as good.

>>184034248
Got it!

http://julien-schu.tumblr.com/post/163504496381/armored-core-20th-anniversary-dengeki-playstation

>>184037781
They were extremely helpful and posted it for me.

>>184048093
>Finger not even in the trigger

>>184051818
him hand 3 polygons

>>184051961
Sorry senpai.

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>>184051714
Okay, here's results of the poll among fans:
The first two graphs are gender and age ratio. Q2 is favourite title. Q3 is which ones did you play.
>Q4: favourite company
Kisaragi from AC3
>Q5: favourite AC
White Glint
Q6: Favourite NPC
Chief from ACV
>Q7 is favourite line, but I can't make it out.
>Q8: favourite biological weapon
AMIDA

It seems most people only played 360 era games also they're much more fond of 5 than the westerners.

>>184054749
Fake-ass Japanese gamers, can't even enjoy Japanese games.

>>184054749
>there are girls who play AC
u wot m8?

>Go into camera view in ACLRP
>Dump RAM
>Move camera
>Dump RAM
>Compare dumps
>Check all the memory locations that were different
>Change them all
>Nothing alters the camera
What the fuck?

>>184054749
I'm guessing V is the game that broke AC from its niche thanks to online multiplayer (within Japan) support, which, I understand, is a big thing there.

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I broke it :teef:

>>184038063
>>184054749
Awesome!

It looks like Japanese gamers and US gamers are probably in identical belief about which game is best. Maybe there's more emphasis on ACFA over ACLR, but FA, VD, and LR all make the top 3.

I should normalize the favoite game results along with the ones that people played though. LR is 3rd favorite but has a lot fewer players.

What's question 9?

>>184056172
How do I turn on TRANSAM?

>>184056412
If you mean how do you make it magenta and break, go into the disassembler, go to the light function, go to it in memory view, and just fuck it up in general. Maybe I 00'd it all? Hunting for some sort of... anti-vaseline cheat I can make.

>>184056226
Just asking them to say some words about the series.

>>184054749
in the great scope of thing, what does this mean for the serie?

>>184055426
It's a bit more complicated since AC4 drastically changed the fanbase both over here and over there because it was primarily sold and marketed for the 360 in the US, yet ACFA was hugely popular in Japan. V was popular among dark souls fans, but they didn't play any other games in the series (including VD).

I would guess that this is also biased in favor of V/VD since people who didn't play those games aren't as likely to be keeping up with the series.

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I played the HIGHMACS simulator pretty recently and realized that it would be pretty cool to have an option for something similar in the next game. I like having the option to have a cockpit view, either like pic related or something like battletech where the camera is sitting inside the cockpit as apposed to mimicking a screen.

After playing the highmacs sim, i realized that I hadn't played a mech game that had cockpit but controlled like AC.

What do you guys think? Does a cockpit view go against the design aesthetic of AC?

>>184061321
yeah, AC needs body awareness for movement and dodging. not opposed to it being added though, just not as the main view.

>>184061473
Id never want it for the main view, but maybe like in the third gen with an optional camera setting. Something like having multiple camera feeds to have a bit of awareness could help as well. I dunno, I just want the sim aesthetic with the arcade feel. I do agree that trying to maneuver in levels in 5 would be more difficult in first person though.

>>184061321
I tried the 1st person view in ACLR. True, it looked like a pretty fun feature on the outset, but with it on, I can't maneuver, I can't seem to keep myself facing the enemy and I can't dodge anything but the slowest of missiles.

Maybe if the next AC, we're all only piloting MTs, this would be a good idea, but anything faster than that probably won't work.

I just realized that I've spent hours starting, scrapping, restarting, and bungling an emblem that will be nothing more than a few pixels on a shoulder.
Dangit, design contest.

>>184048093
Can someone red-pill me on how you get first person mode again?

>>184063821
I think for 3 you have to have save data from 2 or 2aa

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I *think* I disabled the lighting and was left with ambient? Not really what I wanted to do but alright.

>>184063821
Beat all 75 missions to unlock it, then press start followed by select plus start on the start screen.

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Can't tell if I'm adjusting the light angle or if I'm cycling through presets or pointing to different random bits of memory to use as the angle...

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oh

>>184067361
You have entered the Matrix, Raven.

>>184061321
>What do you guys think? Does a cockpit view go against the design aesthetic of AC?

I don't think it does, but it does go against the gameplay. AC's fast-paced nature and a focus on 3-dimensional combat is really hard to control in first person. The wider FOV offered by third person is vital for a game where turning speed is restricted and targeting is dependent on where you are looking.

>>184061827
There's ready position in ACV/VD, which is basically stationary scope view for sniping.

>>184064935
you disabled the glow effects, so everything is just default brightness on flat texture.

>>184070432
Glow effects and basic blinn-phong shading can't possibly be tied.

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>>184073692
Model kit?

>>184073692
Amazon box full of weeb goods

>>184073692
Bad Dragon

In defense of my cockpit fetish, I will try and post ways in which it would be feasible in AC.

I think in regards to the hud/camera layout from my previous picture (>>184061321), it could make up for the lack of fov by having smaller camera displays in the corners of the screen in the same vain of the cameras they had in AC4 that would focus on targets or follow missiles but instead would show flanks or other areas, Idk I'm not totally married to this idea. I think that this method would be the least compatible with the direction AC has taken.

If there was a full cockpit view implemented (a la Mechwarrior) I don't think that fov would be the biggest deal. In my imaginary version of ACV that has a cockpit, there are 3 screens or so of view which matches closely to what the fov would be for third person (I'm okay with losing a little bit of fov for the sake of having a cool view point). I think having a similar sub screen on a corner which shows what the third person view could also be included and would help with keeping up with incoming fire. I also imagine this cockpit view to have options for personalizing layout similar to how you could add elements to the hud of third gen ac. I would also have the weapons "visible" but they certainly wouldnt take up the majority of the screen.

This is as much as I can think of /clearly/ right now. I agree that the first person view in 3rd gen was not good, but I just love cockpit view. Its the same with flight sims or racing games.

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>>184073692

>>184074537
>smaller camera displays in the corners of the screen
This doesn't solve the main problem though, which isn't a lack of visibility but is a lack of easy spacial awareness.

In a racing game, cockpit view works because all your spacial awareness is -forward-. You don't move backwards or to the side.

But in AC, most of the movement is lateral, you're circling around people or trying to navigate around buildings and obstacles. That means you need to be able to see what's to either side -before- you hit it and lose momentum. That's what first person doesn't offer.

For jousting, first person view might actually be more useful.

>>184074537
Let me add my thoughts on how to implement a feasible cockpit view for AC. First of all, the camera will need to be completely decoupled from movement.

It should be possible to quickly look around you without having to turn with the AC (or perhaps this function could be restricted to head parts with advanced cameras, i.e. Panoramic View would be a special statistic now.

Perhaps the movement could still be tied to the camera, but only in that your AC will try to face where you are looking at, but at the speed that it is able to. This needs to come with some HUD markers as to where your body is currently facing, where your weapons are pointed at, etc.

The biggest problem with that will be how massively jarring the new movement controls will need to be. Basically, if the Camera will be decoupled from movement, so will the player's perception of "forward".

Either the forward control will steer your AC towards where your camera is pointing at (i.e. if you're looking straight to the right, the effect of pushing forward on your controller will be to strafe right from where you are facing) -OR- the forward control will push your AC forwards based on where it is facing. If you couple this with the suggestion above that the AC will turn slowly to where your camera is looking at, it will result in a sort of parabolic boost, where ACs fly a bit like planes, trying to follow their camera facing while they strafe each other.

That does it for movement, but combat is a completely different beast.

Finding your enemy should be slightly easier if you have panoramic view, but in this theoretical AC, turning speed will be king, as it will determine how fast and how often you are able to bring your guns to bear on other ACs while avoiding them doing the same to you.

Perhaps a cool little addition to this AC would be a drone part, similar to the one in ACV which can give a tiny PIP which shows essentially the 3rd person view God intended for AC.

>>184064292
>>184065395
>not sure if serious

So we have laser blades, but no laser SPEARS?

HOW COME, FROM

>>184075571
Nice

>>184075571
Cool. Do they sell those at full models a-time, or can you custom build your own shit by grabbing individual parts, like you do in game?

>>184079337
It's a Variable Infinity kit so you can mix parts all you like from other kits. I believe they sell some of the weapons individually. Not sure if they sell legs, arms, etc individually.

>>184079502
that's real neat

>>184078472
Rule of cool only goes so far.

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Need some help. Currently playing through all the AC games in order and I'm up to 3, in the B-3 tier of the arena. Every AC in the arena at that point is a human-plus, perpetually flying faggot that cheats with their aim and can move faster than I can turn. They are also clearly just programmed to stay directly above me at all times

I'd like to make it to Exile with my average laser biped (pic related) but the enemy moves too fast and the aim control is too shit for me to keep trying. What AC do I use lads

>>184081701
If they;re anything like the ACs in Last Raven, I just used micro missiles.

My build was pure mobility glass cannon with micro missile back+micro missile extension, Right arm Pixie 3 left arm Nix.

Not sure which weapons are available in just AC3 though, sorry.

>>184081701
Parking Lot
Machineguns and flamethrowers only
Final Destination

>>184081701
You know you can just dominate people in AC3 with that machinegun in the shop, right? It gives ungodly amounts of heat, and hits in a constant stream of lead.

>>184081978
There are no micro-missles in 3

>>184082061
>Parking Lot and 1000-ammo machinegun

Has anyone been able to beat A-rank without at least one of these

>>184082189
>"You know you can just dominate people in AC3 with that machinegun in the shop, right?"

I was sort of hoping I wouldn't have to use that but now everyone in the arena is just a cheap, boring cunt

>>184078472
Piles are kind of like spears. Short spears with explosive tips.

But, I feel your pain, anon. I always wanted a laser spear as well.

>>184094938
A charge attack from V would be pretty badass with a spear. Although it basically instasmashes any AC in V anyway, at some point I noticed there's no point in carrying laser blades. I can never hit anything in Verdict day with it though, I wonder what properties did they change.

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>>184082620
AC3 has a lot of cheap enemies in the arena in the higher ranks so it ends up becoming a damage race over anything, Ace and Exile being the worst offenders. You need to output as much dps as possible, so machineguns and missiles unfortunately are your best bet. I love the MWG-XCB/75 for missions, but it alone just doesn't have the dps in the arena. I too have been going through all the games, and as cheese as the AC3 arena is, it's nothing compared to some of the arena in ACMoA.

how are you supposed to bunny hop in aclrp? i do a little hop or when i boost at all my mech just stops for a good while until i can move again

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nop'd a few lines and it would flash between normal, black, and this.

>>184110412
Are you using hover legs? Because it doesn't work very well with hovers.
You also need to make sure your boosters are on before you hit the ground.
Going to need more information about boosters making you stop, though.

>>184113546
I'm using light quad legs. When I boost to the side and release the boost button my mech halts and stands still for a second or two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHY1_NQ7blM

lmao

>>184119859
I have many questions.

>>184115212
Mmmm... doesn't happen if I boost to the side and boost again to hop, then I just keep on strafing without halting.

Guess that's the technique to use.

>>184119859
>Sonic textures
>AC not blue with aux boosters for maximum go fast

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Managed to train up an AI well enough to go through all the Extra Arena and actually be useful. Lots of matches training against Mobius worked well. I'm so proud of my little AI.

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voidman

>>184115212
>I'm using light quad legs. When I boost to the side and release the boost button my mech halts and stands still for a second or two.

When you stop boosting you still have momentum and you have to stop

The trick is to stop boosting while you're in the air, then start again before you land. That way you never get the stagger animation.

>>184082620
>Has anyone been able to beat A-rank without at least one of these

People have beaten the A-ranks using only blades or laser blades.

>>184122907
And let me guess, they were American since Japanese players only like the modern games.

>>184082620
Bazookas make everything fun

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you already know what tf it is

>>184081701
>that cheats with their aim
Actually, there's no H+ or cheating involved with AI aiming. They just always turn toward your location and always try to keep you in their view. If you out-turn them, they can't aim at you.

They do have uncanny levels of no-lock-on aiming but that still lacks tracking and most enemies don't use rockets anyway.

Also, try a shield heavy with EO cores. EOs are great for fighting permanent flyers since they auto-track, and even hit enemies when they're beside/behind you.

>>184078472
>>184094938
laser blades on quad legs are basically spears. They stab forward for huge damage, especially if you use the longest blades since the entire hitbox goes into the enemy.

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>>184124976

>>184124976
Thanks doc.

>>184124976
>not using the firefly head, which looks identical to Eva Unit 1's head

>>184143636
>art of FA mechs that doesn't involve them flying around crazy fast in the air but instead engaged in strategic, urban combat

I like this

>>184144642
Feels nice seeing them go back to their roots instead of being rooty tooty float and shooty gundam crap.

>>183948247
>>183948247
>>183948247
>>183948247
ACLR DESIGN CONTEST

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>>184151221

>>184152269
sometimes i think people don't see em or they forgot

not many people posted

>Ever not fighting for Vertex
i don't get it?

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wtf happened here

Mmmmmm... there's no stupid-ass blur shit in the main menu, maybe if I dump the RAM here, and go into the AC test and dump RAM there, I can check the first chunks that change and see what opcodes those addresses are in the disassembler...

>>184154210
I posted though.

Just finished recording the 12th part of FM4, get ready for a hour long video.

I just started playing Last Raven, and I'm a little lost on damage values. Is the game just too hard, or is my fuckhuge tank taking 4000+ damage per second something normal? I went into all the "vs. AC" missions, and stopped in the one against Evangel, because he just bodied me in two seconds.

Also, does damage on a part accumulate over stages, or does it reset? I ask because I can see parts being damaged at AC Training, and I don't want that.

>>184154413
>tfw Jack-O sends an e-mail saying only 10 or so Ravens are alive
I never even got to fight Omega, poor bastard.

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>>184161635
Depending on the weapons they're using, yeah. You may be in a tank, but you still need to be dodging as much as possible.

>>184162640
I mean, when I converted my Nine Breaker data, it said all parts would show up as "Used". Does it mean they have reduced AP value or something? Because I dominated the arenas in Nexus/NB with this tank, but that first AC (Bolt) almost devastated me in three seconds. I got shot twice and only had 2000 AP left. Just thought "WTF?"

Also, I remember someone posted a design that carried you through the VR Arena. Is it that "Lobster" design?

>>184162920
Nah, used just means they have crap for sell value.
But yeah, Bolt does that. You probably have the same gun he does, it's a dual back unit. Use it some, it's kind of ridiculous.

>>184162920
Bolt has an LX (the back laser cannon), that's why he does fuckhuge damage. He's by no means an easy first opponent - you probably got lucky you defeated him on your first try.

>>184147465
>>184144642
I never played the 4/5 era of games, so I ask: how can they fly for so long? Isn't there Heat or something to be careful of? Nexus made flying kind of a bummer because of Overheating.

>>184155756
>Half-way through the disassembler
>All the shit in the AC test matches all the shit in the main menu mech preview
>RAM dump from last AC test is all different from this one
What the Fuck is happening in this Fucking Game

>>184163737
4 removed heat, so energy is your only limitation.
Then they made energy plentiful.

>>184163807
>Dump RAM of the AC test again
>Immediately compare to the disassembler in the AC test without resetting
>They're different
-What- is happening

Damn game's 7 years old why ain't no one else fixed this shit

Why I gotta be the one to go through this dumb ass game's fuckshit code

Fuck this game, Armored Core sucks

>>184165204
A thread or two ago, someone said you am play gods.
This is the repercussion.

>>184165174
>>184163737
there's also another major change. Before AC4, if you boosted you always drained the same amount of EN. Recovery only affected how fast it went back up when you were done boosting, so that meant the energy bar always went down if you were in the air. Permaflight was achieved by boosting in short bursts and recovering your energy between them.

But in AC4 you regenerated energy while boosting AND while not boosting, so if your regen was higher than your drain you would gain energy even while in the air.

>>184162920
>Is it that "Lobster" design?
please don't use that and please try to figure it out yourself with your own build.

Aight I ain't found shit, I gotta put in a request for a cwcheat.

It'll definitely get ignored but it's all I got.

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Cripes, finally finished the emblem.
>>183948247
This is Tyrfing, or at least a close enough version. Some parts may have changed because I think they look cooler. Named after the most radical sword that probably never existed.
So basically, get close, which isn't hard because Dingo2 and 83TP are very dumb parts, and then magdump the dual Nyx with their insane fire rate and grouping. No back units, gotta go fast, extension shields for defense and for showing off the emblem more, and not shown are the LB4 and the revolver in the hangars.
So then I b.s. a bio or something, yeah?

Sir Otis used to be a nut. Once one of your wild conspiracy theories turns out to be correct, people tend to stop calling you a nut. It also doesn't hurt when everyone that knew you as a nut dies horribly. Sir Otis used to sit around in his house most of the day "researching" the various invisible, extraplanar, and subterranean forces that guided the course of the world. A forum here, a radio show there, Sir Otis was always up on the latest news. The real news, that is, not the news being run by the shark princes. Kind and chivalrous at heart, Sir Otis was always trying to enlighten everyone around him so that they would be ready for the uprising, but they always spurned him. Laughed at him. Called him a nut.
Well, who's laughing now?
The guy with the quadruple reinforced bunker who survived the end of the world, that's who.
In this post-apocalyptic hellscape, Sir Otis sets off in his noble black and gold steed, named after a mighty sword, to cut down the wicked and the oppressive. Just don't tell him the actual story behind the sword.

bumpos

>>184172106
You guys make such good backstories. I wish I could do the same.

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>Check out their Pixiv
>Nothing but giant tits
Really disappointing, this art style is really cool with mechs.

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=1584144

>>184191204
What did you expect from a country isolated from the world that birthed tentacles, women with feminine penises, and machine gun nipples?

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fuckin leave my body behind

>>184199878
Some damn class.

>>184215512
>>184215630
I have gazed into the warp, and it gazed back.

>>184215512
I feel h a p p y

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>>184215512
>>184215630

Part 11 is up.

https://youtu.be/WQbBUGTKpgE

I knew Last Raven had few missions per playthrough, but I didn't expect it to go by so fast. I've already finished it twice in 4 hours. My final bosses were Bipedal Pulverizer (Evangel) and Internecine (generators).

>>184234582
>get to 13:25
>two giant mechs miss an unmoving tank twice, at point blank range

Oh, turn based strategy. You so silly.

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Finally, something better than 0-100 RGB sliders

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>>184240109
Yeah, I got some horrible rolls during that battle.

I can't tell if Last Raven Portable with PPSSPP set to read to memory instead of buffered rendering is the correct look because it's *really* extreme "motion blur" but also why would it be so much different.

Still working on removing the blur, real tough. I figure it's just feeding the last frame into the current frame over and over but I can't find the bit of code doing it. Or at least I can't properly disable it to prove it's doing it.

Mmmmmm... I know some folks that might be able to help, only issue is I ain't talked to them in a good long while. It ain't because I don't like em or nothin, it's just that my internet connection tends to go out at 11 and 6 and HexChat will end up crashing while trying to reconnect without an internet connection.

Don't wanna come back out of the blue and just ask for shit.

Though I am exactly that kind of asshole so maybe I should just do it.

>>184237134
24 hours and roughly two hours for each mission cycle leaves runs at, what, twelve missions each?
Yeah, that is kinda short.
>>184190128
First step to getting better at something is sucking at something.
Or something like that.
Also, read read read read read.

>>184246569
I feel ya man. R-Type Command gave me similar rolls when I played it. turn based anything can be a daunting mistress.

>>184260746
>anime

>>>/trash/

>>184263902
Where_do_you_think_we_are.png

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I'm finishing Last Raven, so I will ask before starting 4 and FA. Does it have the same system as Last Raven (where you can retry a stage), or is it the same system as the other games, where if you fail a mission, it counts as "failed" and only appears in the next playthrough?

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>>184267583
You can retry a stage if you fail.

>>184267583
Every game after Nexus allows you to retry stages if you fail. Before Nexus (excluding AC2:AA) failing caused you to lose money but still advance, except in the case of "important" story missions.

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Gonna fuck with AC3P for a while instead, I got more data on it than ACLRP.

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HMMMMMM...

>Ctrl+F for a value in PPSSPP
>Apparently randomly changes an unrelated value
>Crashes
Why this every time...

>>184279347
That's a really solid 1st person view.

>>184280348
Every time I move it wigs out real bad, not 100% sure how it all works.

in one of the early missions in ACLR you have to kill an alliance raven and when you get there you're facing 3 ACs...

what the fuck do you do

>>184282219
which mission? In ACLR you only fight 2 ACs, I dont' think there's ever a 3v1

In either case, you can play keep away and chip away damage for the majority of the multi-AC encounters.

>>183947507

Are any of the games wort emulating on an android phone, or are touchscreen controls too shit?

>>184286026
I haven't tried it but it seems damn near impossible.

AC3 might be the only one you could do it in because it's slower and easier than SL or LR.

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A little closer to dealing with motion blur and bloom in ACLRP.

So if I switch from buffered rendering to read to memory and enable dump new textures it'll dump what appears to be data for the motion blur layer and I can replace them with PPSSPP's texture replacement. It looks like shit and boosters have a black oval (instead of the disabled buffer effects black rectangle) but if I can figure out what's altering 0400000000000909 and 0408800000000909 in the disassembler then I can maybe stop this shit.

Only issue is those aren't the actual locations in the memory as far as I can tell so I have to figure out how to convert that to something useful.

>>184287579
Okay I understand now, the filenames are 3, sometimes 4, parts.

Address + CLUT + Hash (+ Mipmap)

First 8 characters is address, next 8 is CLUT, next 8 is hash, and if there's an _# that's the mipmap level.

Alright, I hope I can use this info.

>>184288369
Well 0x08ABC394 is where breakpoints on 0x04000000 and 0x04088000 lead. Part of gu_update_stall.

It only triggers when I use boost though, you'd think if it was related to the always-present motion blur ghosting shit it'd just get constantly triggered so... this probably isn't it.

Also I haven't been able to meaningfully alter it.

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>>184292926

>>184294775
whoops wrong thread
I'm sorry please don't kill me

>>184263902
Touhou is ethereal my guy.

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>>184267583
In 4 if you fail it dumps you back into the stage select so you have to load the level again (really annoying). In fA they really cleaned it up so if you fail you can just press retry without full reload, also you can pause and select retry. That simple convenience made me S-rank fA. In 4, I beat hard, but I got tired of reloading missions and clunky parts management very quickly. Still love the game just as much as fA though.

>>184039672
>>184040975
Hibiki and Takane actually weren't in the OG idolmaster game on 360, so I don't know that much about them (yet to finish the anime).

>>184300391
> That simple convenience made me S-rank fA
The rank standards for S are a lot more relaxed in FA too. Some missions (Marche Au Supplice) in AC4 are REALLY hard to S-rank.

>>184282219
If you're talking about Raging Torrent IV, it's not 3 ACs, but 1 AC and 2 MTs. Those MTs (Owls) are really annoying too, since they come with ECM (jams radar and lock-on). I usually kill the MTs with the laser blade.

I'm playing Last Raven too, and I think I just realized I was playing the last three games (Silent Line, Nexus, Nine Breaker) in a really dumb way. I usually choose a light/medium biped and only use the arm weapons (usually KRSW + Blade), but no back missiles. I started using missiles again in LR, and it's weird how effective they are against almost everything. I feel really dumb now, because the game is really made to be played with missiles, and I gimped my gameplay because I wanted to S-Rank everything with the Karasawa and Moonlight.

Really liking Last Raven so far, how the missions are quick and fast, and the surprises that appear in them, like the Pulverizers or a second AC.

I finished it 5 times already (in 2 days!), and every time I discover something new. I thought only the main 3 (Evangel, Jack-O and Zinaida) would die differently depending on your actions, but I actually managed to kill Mumu in two different missions - once on the convoy mission, then in one of the final missions (of another path).

Also, in Jack-O's path, is it Zinaida that thrashes him before you arrive? He said "she was here already", so I think he meant Zinaida.

>>184307651
Zinaida ending gives a little more to infer with, but that's doubtful. He meant that she went on to destroy the Internecine. He probably took that damage holding off a Pulverizer.

>>184294775
>>184295240
Don't worry, disdain is equally welcome here Xezberzs.

>>184307651
> and it's weird how effective they are against almost everything
AI are bad at dodging missiles. That's one of the reasons why H+ includes better AMS systems, but MTs lack AMS altogether. But yeah, you are meant to switch between back and arm weapons based on the situation/range. Usually missiles are far better at longer ranges. Karasawa and moonlight are powerful, but they're just tools. If you don't use them right (or the situation doesn't call for them) they're not that much better than other weapons.

>I finished it 5 times already (in 2 days!), and every time I discover something new.
I've been playing it for a decade and I still don't know how the mission pathing works exactly in LR. It's really unique and there's a lot of details to discover, especially with how NPCs continue to go on missions that you don't take, leading to different side stories implied by the NPC descriptions, like how if you don't attack evangel or zinaida at camp forthered, they fight instead and presumably evangel or the quad/biped pulverizer shows up and kills her, which is why Evangel is so convinced he's a dominate when you fight him later: he killed zinaida and doesn't consider you a threat by comparison.

>Also, in Jack-O's path, is it Zinaida that thrashes him before you arrive? He said "she was here already", so I think he meant Zinaida.
Ahab's right. The Jack-O path is an inversion of the Evangel Path, where instead of Evangel sacrificing himself to send you to the internecine, Jack-O sacrifices himself to send Zinaida into the internecine. That means that it was one of the pulverizers that damaged Jack-O.

>>184308902
Maybe I forgot, but doesn't Zinaida send that e-mail (about being disappointed in you and Evangel) in every path that isn't hers?

Been awhile since I visited acg and/or participated in SNFA. Hell, or even touched For Answer in general. If SNFA is still a thing I'd love to join and try to knock off some of this rust. Not like I was ever any good through haha. Also, are you guys playing Versus, what's the verdict?

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>>184308902
>tfw no matter what path you take, everyone dies in the end except you
>it took me 10 years to figure out why the game is called "last Raven"

pls no bully

>>184312039
If you can organize enough people, SNFA can be thing.