/dsg/ Demon's/Dark Souls General

dark souls 3, in my opinion, it's not good...

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new /dsg/ even when

>>153967358
This is new /dsg/

dark souls 3... remember. good? no

>>153967339
NO
NO GOOD

*breathe in*
DS2 HAD BEST PVP IN THE SERIES

>>153967358
event*
fuggg

>having to wait 90 seconds to correct a typo
fuck this gay earth

ancient wyvern send help (pc)

>>153967451
Dark Souls: best pve
Dark Souls 2: best pvp
Dark Souls 3: best amount of storage space saved after uninstalling

>>153967497
PC players can't beat Ancient Wyvern

>>153967451
*grabs you by the throat*

I said back the fuck off!?

>>153967558
SL67 ;-;

>>153967487
what if we could edit our posts within 30 seconds of posting?

edit: sorry guys I don't keep up with the news

Chaos Blade or Uchi for DaS1 PvP?

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YO WADDUP

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>>153967576
heh...

>>153967639
Chaos blade

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>>153967497
>/dsg/ is so shit they can't beat the Ancient Wyvern

Lmao

>>153967749
harder than ancient dragon from ds2

turn off your fucking godmode erza scarlet

>>153967651
What weapon would that build have?

>>153967639
Uchi if you can buff it, Chaos for looks and pure dex.

>>153967635
is this actually possible or are you meming me

PC FC BF

>>153967639
>DaS1 PvP

ahahahahah fucking kek

>>153967451
DaS2 had the worst gameplay in the series though.

Just moving your character was a chore, the lock-on was so shit it might as well not exist, can't pivot, can't combo R2 -> R1, awkward delays after certain action, massive stamina drain turned fights into staring contests, objectively the slowest movement in the series, adaptability, etc.

I don't care how good the weapon/spell variety is and such, it's not worth the literal pain of DaS2 gameplay.

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>>153967835
Flamberge dud

>>153967358

I've been thinking about hosting a Knight Event like we had for DaS1.

>>153967887
yeah it's posoble

edit: meant possible sorry I'm tired

DeS on the ps4 when?

>>153967846
Is this picture a reference to something?

Edit:
>>153967887
Of course it is

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top 50 for the most fun pvp in the series

If I filter
>pc
>fc
>bf
>gwyndolin
>DaS2
>darkdrift
>nothing
>can
>defend
>k***ht
>poise
>estoc
>css
>carthus curved sword
how much will I miss?

>still no dark build so I can meme a little

I hate you guys.

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>>153967974
Get good, shitter.

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>>153968104
>CCS
>probably a 120 QUALITY shitter to boot

>>153968118
>can
How CAN you see any posts with such a frequently-used word filtered?

>>153968118
>"nothing"
>"can"
>filtering basic English words
lol

So, Darklurker is the only DS2 boss I haven't killed yet.

I was thinking of doing it with a lightning arrow bow build like this guy did.

Is it viable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=760HYwruJ4c

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>>153968118
All the good stuff

>>153967927
host

>>153967831
P L U N G E A T T A C K
L
U
N
G
E

A
T
T
A
C
K

>>153968118
>not just filtering all the vowels

You'd save yourself a lot of effort.

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>>153968182
>"people" unironically like havelmom backstab competitions

>>153968258
The Darklurker is easy once you have a good AoE spell you can cast when it does its second stage. The first stage is hardly challenging since its tells are all super fucking obvious.

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>>153967339
>>153967387
>>153967451
>>153967538
>>153967976

>The Progenitor
>Created the core gameplay for the series but understandably lacks polish
>Clearly shows its age compared
>No one plays it anymore

>The Fan Favorite
>Built upon the core of the first, while brushing up on the rough bits
>Attracted a much larger playerbase to series
>Higher level play was predicated upon abuse of unintended mechanics, but doing so added depth to the game

>The disappointing sequel
>Tried to add a different spin on the formula but ultimately considered to have failed
>Added several quality of life improvements to the game
>Removed the glitches from the prior game, which overall lowered the skill cap

>The new hotness
>Mostly returned to the "original" formula, as opposed to taking another risk
>Failed to bring much to the table, "just another X game"
>People play it because it is newer or due to being tired of the older games, but consider it worse than them

>>153968182
I am speechless beyong words.
Why does that backstabanimationappearsbutnodamageisdealt thing happen again? Does it have a name?

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>>153968205
27/40/35, actually :^)

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>>153968415
*teleports behind you*

>>153968182
THIS IS A REALM OF DEATH AND MADNESS

>>153967639
dmb falchion is objectively the best build in the game

>>153968519
There's a special place in hell for fags like you

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>>153968389
>he can't handle the high-speed backstab meta
>he probably things ds2 had good pvp

>>153968205
>that pic
source?

DeS/DaS remaster for pee ess fore when?

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>>153968601
>he unironically considers a meta that revolves exclusively around exploiting 1 (ONE) game mechanic good

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>>153968395
Fairly accurate.

>>153968182
>shitters will be unable to explain how the red prevented the other guy from escaping from the second backstab

>>153968558
please parry me: the build

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What did they mean by this?

>>153968415
>Why does that backstabanimationappearsbutnodamageisdealt thing happen again? Does it have a name?
Backstab escape.

It's a super secret japanese technique that only a few westerners have ever mastered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqjykSY7WRM

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>>153968740
As opposed to dks 2 and 3's metas, which revolve around abusing of stunlocks with longswords and estoc?

>>153968608
Hopefully soon. I'm probably going to shell out some dosh for the Bloodbornebox and I'd love if I could get at least DeS on it. I'd buy DaS1 again if they remastered it a la DaS2 SotfS,finished Lost Izalith and allowed beards in character creator.

>>153968848
Sirris sat on their face.

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>>153968395
>there are smashfags in this general
reee

>>153968563
cry me a river, lil bitch

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>>153968939
>ds2/3
>getting stunlocked
lmao how shit are you
go backstab yourself

>>153969001
>autist about a shit tier competitive game gets trigerred by someone who's an autist about another shit tier competitive game

You just cannot make this up

>>153969048
>3
>no poise whatsoever
>stunlocked for two hits by anything
>"lmao bad"

A very well formulated argument, thanks for your input on the discussion.

Yo, are all of the Black Knight weapons broken is Ds1? I got a BKSword and wanted to see if I could replace my Halberd.

DAS2 HAD BEST PVP

PERIOD

>>153969152
>autist about a shit tier competitive game
That's a lot of assumptions going on here, my man. I don't give a single fuck about DaS3 pvp, or any DaS pvp for that matter, I just like to pick whatever is broken and shit on retards like >>153968563 and >>153968205, just to see them cry. Smashfags still need to fuck off back to /r/Kappa, though.

>>153969238
The Black Knight weapons pretty much destroy DS1 PvE. They stay good until the endgame and are kinda considered easymodo desu.

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>>153969224
>2 hits
>stunlock

>"no poise whatsoever"
>being too shit to use hypearmor
>needing poise with fast weapons

>>153969238
Yep.

Your run can be significantly easier broken if any black knight drops his weap.

BK Halberd is BAMF

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Will Selen of Vinland's set ever return?

>>153969272
only the beta was good because it had candle loading image

>>153969426
Hope so that I can cosplay as Asterix.

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>>153969001
>try farming sheckles for warmth at pontiff
>fight a metafag
>lose
>he posts the webm of that fight on /dsg/
fuck this gay earth

>>153969426
go away, worst girl

>>153969537
lamo

Oolacile - Poolacile. Coincidence?

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>>153967749
I just beat him :3, I skip most of the shaft but...

https://youtu.be/VjFDnCur1Ew?t=2m28s

>>153969537
>fighting /dsg/ outside of events

How that even happens?

>>153969628
pure luck... or actually its lack in this case

>>153969537

I wouldn't feel bad anon, you were fighting a halberd with a greatsword, there's like no way to win that match-up unless they're using the Crescent Axe or they're a moron.

>>153969537
Don't feel bad, they literally killed themselves in someone elses webm a while ago. All they had to fight was a greatshield estoc combo.

>>153969703
still pretty humiliating
it would be even worse if he recorded the whole fight
I accidentally cast heal aid instead of tears at the beginning, was too embarassed to try again, later noticed that he has tears on and cast them in combat, took a few hits for it of course

Since the move to Steamworks, does DaS1 display your character name or steam name when invading?

>>153970158
steam name
it can crash somebody's game if the name is too long

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While I am no longer doing the list, I'd like to point out a few people to avoid

>PvKiwi
>Dog
>Magic Knight
>Lord Letholdus

Have a pleasant day.

WHY ISN'T YHORM'S SET IN THE GAME

I WANT TO BE FULL YHORM WITH THE MACHETE

>>153970280

What's wrong with Dog? Also no idea who PvKiwi and Letholdus are.

>>153968395
>Brawl/DS2
>Added several quality of life improvements to the game
Like what? Tripping? DS2's bad footsies? I mean the analogy is on point but I don't see how you could call any of the changes in these games "quality of life improvements".

>S4/DS3
>People play it because it is newer or due to being tired of the older games, but consider it worse than them
That isn't really true of either smash 4 or ds3. I'd say they're considered more casual-friendly. As products they're far more complete and polished, as they don't rely on lucky accidents. DS1 and Melee got their names out, but they were cult games.

>>153968519
>not going 40/50 refined for more ar

>>153968939
>not parrying the third swing
>still thinking rapiers are OP in 3 after the nerf
>complaining about being locked into things, while defending backstab and wakeup-read based gameplay

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>>153969915
Funny thing you say that. I'm the one with the Shield Estoc combo in said webm.

>>153969921
That was pretty funny.

>>153970435
Wait, you aren't Ley?

>>153970230
Well thanks
I guess making a dragonbro invader called EmoDragonZ is something I'll reserve for DS2/3

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>>153970329
I want to be full Vordt

Him being on all fours isn't an excuse not to fucking have it either, because it was clearly originally meant to be bipedal

>>153968258
then get the bow of want
it does lightning damage and darklurker is weak to lightning
you'll need to level faith tho

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>>153970329

>He doesn't know

>>153970495
I remember that he was called "Princess (name I don't remember)", he's not Ley.

>>153970412
>not going 40/50 refined for more ar
I have like 6 120 builds, one of those is a 40/60.

>>153970495
Of course not. He stole my fashion, partially. I use the Sunless Leggings and he uses Knight.

I wish I could filter webmfag's spam.

>>153970329
>>153970551
>>153970329
ds3 is so shit god DAMN

ELITE CLERIC FIASCO DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO THIS SHIT.

>>153970617
>40/60
I said 40/50 so that I wasn't just demanding you put more stats into attack

>>153970412
I think he means the streamlining of the weapon upgrade system,warp from the start, inventory tabs and that sort of thing.

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Consider for a moment, that the skills needed to successfully compete against a high level opponent are also the same set of skills you use when evaluating the pvp as a whole.

Someone less experienced at a game may perceive a tactic that the opponent uses as "cheap" or "imbalanced" because they struggle with countering it. In his mind the tactic is actively damaging to his enjoyment of the game, regardless of if it is actually viable in the upper tiers of play.

This player is ill-equipped to properly analyze the state of the game because he lacks the skills to properly compete in it. Additionally he is unaware that he himself may not be a skilled player, as he cannot gauge the game itself, he is therefore unable to properly gauge his own abilities within that game.

This improper evaluation of concepts is the reason why people like dark souls 2 pvp.

Discuss.

Is Pyromancy fun in SotFS?
Never got around to playing it. Pretty much played the first month of Vanilla 2 and stopped.
Playing through 3 as a pyro was fun, so I thought I'd do 2 with it. Plus, I've never done the DLCs.

>>153970617
are you friends?

>>153970787
I guess that makes sense, but hows that apply to brawl?

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POST

CUTE

PLEASE

>>153970685
>Penetrator armor
>Plume
>Pursuer armor
>Logarius garb
>Dragonslayer armor armor

Which one hust the most?

>>153970784
Oh, ok.
>>153970797
Nope.

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>>153970923
Cute!!

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>>153970923
No you dumb bitch

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>>153970584
>that headpiece

>>153970968
The lack of plume stings the most because I've been denied it 3 times now.
Twice in games with cloth physics, so there's no excuse.

>>153968104
Did R2 just unironically combo into the WA or did he just choose not to roll out

>>153970584
What the fuck were they thinking with that headslot

Why not just let the neck chain hand down normally, why would they morph it to the head? Looks fucking dumb

does ne1 wanna help me clear arch dragon peak :3

>>153971268
It's a true combo. At least the R2 is fucking trash but still, fromsoftware.

>>153971297
They probably gave the job of modelling that to an intern and cut it when he royally bungled the whole damn thing.

>>153971268
cmon what's that 3 r1s it's much more efficient to just r1

>>153971327
Pc?

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>>153971160
>ywn stand guard at the ADP as Ornstein with your glorious plume flapping in the rain and the wind

>>153970280
who?

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>remember the grueling, five-hour slugfest I had with Twin Princes on my first playthrough

>beat them easily on my second try this playthrough

I wonder if NK will ever feel this easy.

JK I don't ever want to fight him again to find out.

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I tried posting this as a thread originally but didn't get any responses. Hopefully you anons can help me out.

I want to talk about Dark Souls 2.

I've played and very much enjoyed Dark Souls 1, Dark Souls 3, and Bloodborne.

After a hiatus, I've returned to Dark Souls 2 to give it another try.

My question is aimed at those who like the game. What do you actually like about it?

I'm only up to the Tower of Flame, but these are my pros and cons so far:

Pros:
>decent art style
>enough differences from the first game to make it viable
>interesting lore

Cons:
>attack tracking from enemies
>animations are a step down in quality
>pretty lackluster boss battles (so far)
>controller seems to have some sort of input lag that I don't get with DS1, DS3 (playing SoTFS on PC)
>world doesn't feel as tightly designed as the other games

I guess a follow-up question is does it get better as you progress? I want to beat this and then buy a PS3 to play DeS afterwards.

>>153971297
it looks cute

>>153971446
yep NK will feel easy

>>153971446
I tried Champ on 3 separate days, maybe between 10-15 attempts in total.

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>>153970923

>>153971630
Champ's ezpz for me for some reason. I don't even parry him or anything.

Same thing with DSA.

>>153971327
pc frequency

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>>153971370
This makes me mad because it's probably true.

It was his one job. Because he fucked up, there wasn't enough time and so we never got the armour.

Mad status:

>>153971446
Nameless is easy as fuck. If you're on PS4 I'll solo him for you.

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>>153970923
Ok.

>>153971705
I really fucking miss headgear like this.

Dark Souls 3 literally only has that shitter cloth rip mask shit.

Demon's had the awesome black leather veil thing for females and the ninja mouth cover etc, mephi's mask etc.


DaS2 had the awesome Lion Warrior Helm so you could have jewelry and shit like that would be great in DaS3 for eating up armour slots to sate their shitty defence/absorption requirement.

So fucking gay

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>>153970923

>>153971297
They were probably going to put the chainmail on later you gosh dang dingaling.
It's not finished.

I'm still mad though, because that chest piece is tight

>>153971530

It had the best fashion and lots of viable builds.

>>153971530
The PvP is the game's highlight, you won't get the full enjoyment out of it if you play just for the singleplayer.
The level design and boss fights don't get much better in the non-DLC part of the game, with a few exceptions.
Almost everything is viable in DS2, so try fucking around with the weapons and spells to create a fun and unique build. It's the easiest way to enjoy the game.

>>153971770
Maybe in the DLC, or maybe it'll end up being like the Pursuer's armour.

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>invaded by fatrolling full havel cosplayer who even uses shield wa
>just lose to him on purpose so he might at least have one win in his entire session

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>>153971954
Mephy is the OG Semon Demon

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>>153970923
>

>>153971530
I hate (and I cannot overstate how much) DaS2, but I will tell you what I liked about it.

>Shield Bashing
>Ultra/2H parrying
>Omni-directional movement while locked on

Now since I hate the game you may feel I'm unqualified to answer, but;
>I guess a follow-up question is does it get better as you progress?
No. As far as I'm concerned the game is a downward slope from square one in vanilla. The only redeeming PvE content, in my opinion, is Shulva and most of the other two DLCs.

Good god. Every single DaS2 characters face looks abysmal.
So much easier to make handsome/cute people in BB/DaS3

holy heck is astoras great sword even worth taking to 10?

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>>153971530
>What do you like about it?
There's actually new shit on NG+ cycles, the world is different and feels like an adventure into the unknown since it's different,decayed kingdom.

Gameplaywise I like that dual wielding actually works in the game with left handed weapons gaving viable movesets and there being a lot of content,especially iin SoftS.

>Does it get better?
The quality of the game's levels and combat encounters jumps around wildly but the DLCs are pretty damn solid.

DS3 was more solid quality but DaS2's inherent strength was experimenting a lot.

>>153970584

Looks like they salvaged some elements for the Firelink chestpiece. Or is it supposed to be the influence of Yhorm on the gestalt?

>>153971530
I like 2's pvp because I wasn't having much success in the previous soul's games pvp, people would just backstab me all the time. With 2 I don't have to think about if I'm going to get punished for swinging my weapon.

>>153972073
>The PvP is the game's highlight
Oh yes, dueling with spinning passive warped sword users will certainly make his experience better.

>>153970791
The quality of the game's PvP isn't about the highest skill cap, but the average one, because that's what affects the majority of players.
That's why most people say magic is better in 2, when it isn't, because most people don't follow the basics of rendering it useless, thus magic is and isn't actually the best there at the same time, unlike in BB where Arcane is truly one of the best ways to make a character, for instance.
Same reason they claim great weapons were nice in 2 when DBS is still probably the best a great weapon ever was.

But honestly, this is not only about 2 and I can't really relate it in any way other than it being the game with the highest amount of builds, meaning even a subpar one could compete because people weren't used to what it could do.

And let's not kid ourselves, 3 is fucking imbalanced, as are all other games, the series is a broken mess and you soon realise you can't truly run your favourites because they're plain bad. So I don't really give a shit, I'll just use whichever game has the more convenient PvP, which is why I dropped SotFS too soon and went back to 1 when it hid my orbs behind cancer and why I still play 3 which is the most active

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>>153970923
>

>>153972145
Oh and I also liked the dual wielding support for the greatest part.

Idea: Throwing an Alluring Skull somewhere as an invader will have all enemies around you go to that spot. They can only be affected by a skull every few seconds. They will not follow skulls off cliffs. This is to stop Host and friends from being giant bitches and refusing to fight invaders surrounded by enemies despite already having a numbers advantage over them, and an invader's only friends are the very unreliable npc enemies.

>>153972164

Yes.

>>153972145

Man I fucking hated Sunken Crown.
I liked Iron Crown and I loved Ivory Crown, but Sunken Crown was so shit for me.
Bosses were decent though.

>>153972238
Maybe that's all that's left after the DS3 release, but when I played the game before there was a decent variety of builds and playstyles.

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>>153972150
when it came to creation of characters in ds2 i just made all of them obsidian black to hide armor not covering neck/hands/belly which was a common issue there and gave them a giant goofy tattoo to completely hide their ugly faces

>>153972347
I fucking loved that it had actual environment interaction.

They should've taken the entire way further.

>>153972214
>I like 2's pvp because I wasn't having much success in the previous soul's games pvp, people would just backstab me all the time.
Playing DaS1 with people who didn't BS was so good. I'm sad for folks who don't know the experience.

>>153972395
nigga that looks scary as fuck

>>153972441
It was an ironic post, anon.

mother mask

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>>153970791
>everyone who disagrees with me is bad
>discuss

Now don't get me wrong; I groan every time I see some shitter tell someone to "go back to pvp souls 2!" as though its pvp had any merits outside of the population's willingness to play the mid tier (which isn't something you can credit the game for), but your mention of technicality makes me thing you're reffering to DS1 stabplay implying that only people who couldn't do it well didn't like it and/or you need to be an excellent player in DS1 to criticize it in general. That really isn't the case. Most games are made by people who don't even play them that much.

DS1 was technical, not complicated. The "complications" and depth you see in the PvP only got invented because everyone only had one part of the PvP to really focus on, so all of the effort and studying got focused on one thing. You're backstabbing and reading getups. It's only slightly more complicated than a gannondorf side-B tech chase, and believe me, if gannon were the only character in smash and his side B was as damaging as a backstab, we'd have a million videos about how to preform a ravioli flame-choke through the most nuanced of mechanics available. The depth is just a result of pushing the same volume down a more narrow tube.

>>153972338
Alluring Skulls already make the sound of player footsteps for their duration wherever they land. If you throw one as an invader, you can mask your own footsteps for a bit or make people thing you're somewhere that you're not.

Unfortunately, the sound when it first detonates is distinctive so it won't fool anybody who knows what they're doing, and since most host squads wait for you to come to them, they'll just stop moving and hunker down when they hear those footsteps anywho. Still kinda neat.

>>153972520
Oh, I see.

Still, my point stands. Playing like, and against dudes like, Yami; toggle escaping, switching weapons to keep things interesting, dead-angling, not just DWGR-ing for Hornet BSs... it was the fucking best.

>>153972596
Isn't that just the spell? Alluring skull just explodes

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Another thing, adding onto >>153971530

Is it just me, or does it seem that 2's combat controls seem quite... sluggish? I understand the need to commit to attacks and such, but DaS 1, 3 and BB seem to have a much more "fluid" system of combat. It's difficult to out into words.

>>153971530
Invasions are still possible when the boss is dead, meaning invading is always possible, as opposed to the tiny window where you can invade in 1 and 3.

No health cut for phantoms and invaders. Phantoms can heal themselves with their estus flask instead of relying on the host to take a sippy, although phantoms heal at a much slower rate than the host.

Drinking estus takes time, making it possible to interrupt and punish sipping during a fight. It also doesn't heal instantly like in 3.

Poison was actually kinda scary and a viable option for a build. Bleed as well, although it was in itself pretty weak, but I had some success with it.

Stamina costs and regen is pretty spot on in Dark Souls 2, it was much less spammy than 3 is where nothing costs stamina.

Animation canceling and other animation related glitches like quick attacks and quick rolling where possible, making ultra weapons kinda viable and adding some depth to the pvp.

etc

>>153971954
DaS2 also had Straid's mask. The ninja mask is also in FS3 though if you equip the thief mask as a female.

>>153972768
One thing is that you can't change direction that well when attacking multiple times?

>>153972768
ds2 uses retarded four-way deadzone for some reason on top of a different version of engine which feels like ds1 underwater so yes, it feels way more sluggish and less fluid

>>153972768

It's not an uncommon feeling, and there's a number of factors to it.

>>153972768
No, you're not the only one. I feels weird, like you're moving underwater.

>massive amounts of cut content
>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>invasions sucks
>Heavy armor sucks
>brown and grey
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one LOCKED BEHIND THE FINAL BOSS
>awful covenants
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for quirky weapons. In the end less weapon variety than BB
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frames
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB

>b-but the DLC will save it!
lmfao

>>153972751
>Aye simae armour

Everyone bangs on about Ciarans set, but this is the one I miss the most. Literally every piece of that armour was god teir looking.

>>153973056
You're late dude.

>>153972768
>s it just me, or does it seem that 2's combat controls seem quite... sluggish?
I don't know how to explain it pithy, but it's something awful. It's like your character's movement never really syncs up with how far they move: they look like they step wide but don't move, or step shallow and slide five feet over. There was no way to use sight to get one's bearings.

Then the awful sounds for hitting people and the even worse animations just made everything even more obfuscated.

>>153973097

My nigga!

I love that shit, even if it was a stats nightmare.

Crecent Axe. How is it?
I mean both pve and pvp. What sort of build should it have? Scales pretty bad.

>>153973194
best crescent axe in series, still mediocre at best but usable this time and pretty hilarious if you manage to hit someone with warcry r2

>>153972751
>that game from 2011 looks better than anything in DaS2 and a lot of 3
why is this allowed?

>>153972680
The ring-swapping, reverse rolling, avant garde style of play Yami did was just a flashy way of beating up bad players though. Souls is not DmC, and doesn't really support that kind of thing no matter how many youtube montages you make of it.

>>153973194

The worst halberd objectively speaking due to its range. Basic 27/40 quality build for optimal damage. Only real notable use is the Warcry R2s that will only hit someone due to people seeing it so little they have no idea what to do against it.

>>153973056
I do like that i-frames from backstepping is gone. imagine the reactive shitters when they would have access do this kind of thing.

>>153973056
Glad to see you're doing alright Tanimura.
You'll convince someone someday.

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ARE
MY
dragonsisters :3c

>>153971530
The immense replay value is it's best feature. There are so many weapons, spells, armors, and sorts of character you can make in this game. Also functional dual wielding.

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>>153973097
DLC
L
C

>Helm of the Wise
>Reduces FP consumption

>Gauntlets of the Vanquisher
>Increase Bare Fist Damage

>Boots of the Explorer
>Increases Luck by 5 points

>Armour of the Glorious
>Random chance to take 0 damage from a hit (inverse Engraved Gauntlets)

if they don't give me ciaran's set for DLC I'll never eat bread again in my life.

>>153973332
>The ring-swapping, reverse rolling, avant garde style of play Yami did was just a flashy way of beating up bad players though
When people (plural) choose to play that way together, that's not totally true.

Yes, DWGR Hornet fishing works """"better""" that's why it was the dominant playstyle. You needn't waste time showing off your e-peen telling me that.

>>153973383
yes, ds2 backsteps were one of the biggest balance holes which never were fixed
you could just backstep through any ugs attacks, it's fucking silly when someone starts crying about how "good" big weapons were in ds2 when it had probably the easiest way of dealing with them in series, even in ds1 you could catch someone with unlocked play once in a while

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I have only one question in regard to the souls games.


WHERE IS MY MAIDEN IN BLACK ART!??!?!?!?

(you know what I'm talking about)
(But, seriously though)

>>153973495
>immense replay value
When pve feels like utter shit it's not really that immense at all.
Samey weapon movesets don't help at all as well, even boss weapons r2 are just standard r2s with shitty elemental effect slapped over them.

>>153972958
>>153973042
>moving underwater

Yep, that's exactly what I mean. So basically they used the DS1 engine initially, then switched engines for DS2, then back to an updated DS1 engine for BB, and then kept that same engine for DS3?

What the heck

>>153973516
>everyone starts using the armor and mismatching to make the most out of it

Brilliant, if only we could put this in DaS 2 too

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>>153973694

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rate me
first time playing dark souls

>>153973274
>>153973364
So shitty in pvp. Fine. Pve?

>>153973709
BB's engine is more unique and part of the reason it was exclusive.
They used it for 3 too

>>153973740
I appreciate the proliferation of the few quality pictures out there, but in comparison to the rest of the female characters in the games she is woefully underrepresented.

I just want to tough her demonic insides

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>>153973740

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>>153973709
DS2 engine is just a heavily modded ds1 engine with enormous amount of new problems
Really glad they went back to ds1 version and improved it, playing in bb after ds2 felt extremely good

>>153973916
>most overrated DeS's girl
>underrepresented

Keep telling yourself that

>>153973540
Anon, I know there's a good deal of it on 4chan, but just because I'm not with you doesn't mean I'm against you.

People play the game as they like.

>>153973560
There were not many people who used this though, but if you've played against people that could pull this off all the time it was the most infuriating shit ever since you could literally backstep out of anything except pates spear and other multihit weapons that had some reach.

>>153973860

Like any other weapon in the game you can use it in PvE and win with it, I don't know what you want me to say really. Again though there's no reason to use it over other better halberds you get earlier like Lucerne or the (Red-Hilted) Halberd.

>>153973410
lmao

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>>153973969

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>>153973694

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>>153974163
And, my favorite

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Do you guys watch any Dark Souls/Bloodborne related YT channels?

Assume Vaati doesn't exist. Fuck that cunt.

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am i doing it right

>>153974393
I play the games instead of watching

>>153974032
I won't dispute that all of the girls in DeS don't have much art for them, but why argue for them when I know my favorite? I wouldn't mind seeing more Astraea, Yuria, Miralda, Selen, etc, though

>>153974393
I used to watch a bunch.

>>153974393
EpicMemeBro
OnlyMeme
Lobosjr
Other channels are Let's Players I like that don't do exclusively Souls content.

>>153974449
>>153974480
>>153974546
What about lore?

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>>153974479
>I wouldn't mind seeing more Yuria
I have one or two.

>>153974546
Lobos is such a piece of shit.

>>153974393
I don't really get the hate, was there some sort of revelation about him or something? His videos are decently edited, written, and his voice is pretty pleasant. They're nothing crazy, and they take an inordinate amount of time, but they aren't horrible.

>>153974393
cass

>>153974393
ds2 release killed majority of good channels like darksoulsmindeye
watching yami trying to play technically in ds2 was fucking painful as well

Is the Halberd worth upgrading? First time through DS2.

>>153974652
He's been accused of plagiarism with some pretty compelling evidence, even from a close friend of mine, who does lore videos. I create them myself, as well, so I can understand why people are angry at him, seeing as he hasn't really confronted the issue and said what he took and what he didn't.

>>153974690
did you see the new video?

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>>153974620
Lore not so much. I have my own ideas that I extrapolated from what I personally found, read, and saw, and don't really care what other people think.

>>153974640
Yuria tends to get the full anime treatment for some reason.

>>153974821
its a good weapon if you like keeping your distance, but you have to make sure you don't people with the pole if they get to close. I'd recommend a small sword or dagger in case they get close.

>>153974620
ashen hollow is somewhat entertaining
but the whole im going to speak in a relaxed asmr voice while speaking about souls lore its getting fucking annoying

i blame maatimovie for it

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Anyone on PS4 need help with anything?

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>>153974884
Last Yuria

>>153974072
I mean how is it? Is it good? It's not a very hard question.

>>153974620
EpicMemebro is good for DS1 lore, as far as the lore of the other games go, I listen to whichever Youtuber happens to have a theory on shit but after Dark Souls 2 happened and then DS3 kinda brushed it off(btw Drangleic bever was Lordran before the game was released the devs said it was taking place in a different region), I kinda stopped believing that From has a real plan for the overarching lore and just invents shit up as they go. I enjoy Dark Souls 3 lore as hints as to wgat we might see in the DLC, but the devs of DS will probably not give a "definitive" answer to a lot of the questions.

>>153974393
yung maestro

>>153975063
It's funny this image.

One would think that Karla in DaS3 should be Yuria and "Yuria" should be Mephistopheles.

>>153974990
He's a friend of mine. I'll probably be on a video of his soon. Same with Aegon, if he can get is act together.

>>153974821
Is it really plagiarism to agree with an idea and then proliferate it? I agree that its a shitty move and that you should point people back to the original person, but does it fall under plagiarism, per se? I always saw him as the guy who participated in the community, then gathered what he and others found and tried to make a more detailed and touched up piece.

So armor doesn't matter with the Bed of Chaos right? I wanna look good when I get frustrated .

>>153975168
Bed of Chaos is pretty much 100% RNG. Do it naked.

>>153975104

It's serviceable but every other halberd is better.

>>153974652
It's the same old story, he started out on 4chan making lore videos but immediately distanced himself from us when he got traction.
He started making money off of his channel/patreon as well, which apparently makes people angry. The production quality of his videos went up a lot, but the content itself had a sharp decline of quality since there is only so much to talk about in souls.

I personally don't feel the top 10 videos he shits out once a month deserve $4k in monthly donations, but whatever.

tl;dr
We are bitter people and don't handle breakups well.

>>153974479
No, I meant it. MiB has 15 or so pages on Pixiv alone, same going for boorus or other similar sources.
This is more than the double of the second highest image count girl from DeS (Yuria), while also beating most of DaS 1-3'and BB's cast except fan favourites like Priscilla, Doll or Firekeeper.

>>153975141
Yeah I have no idea why they did that. I mean even if it isn't some super sekret in-joke/reference, there are countless female names out there that haven't been used in a Souls game. The decision to use Yuria baffles me and actually rustles the shit out of my jimmies.

>>153974884
I never like it when artists take souls women and go full anime with them. I love most anime art styles, but souls to me distances itself from that style so much, it seems that it is a bit of a mistake to force it.

>>153975168
Theoretically stacking poise can matter if you don't want to get staggered by him so full Havel's can make a difference

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>>153975164
Yeah how can you even plagiarize item descriptions from each other lmao

Why do these people feel so entitled to their intepretations of the """lore""", and want to be the firsts to say it?

>>153975164
That's what it is though. If you take inspiration or someone else's idea without referencing them, that's plagiarism. He needed to cite his sources, and he didn't

>>153974870
The GG one? What about it?

>>153973298
SweetFX / ReShade
it's really not that hard to get it to look like that

>>153973194
it's okay, would be a lot better if warcry didn't cancel other weapon buffs, because the uncharged warcry r2s are actually pretty good. great tracking on both attacks.

>>153972751
>60FPS mod

Good luck using ladders.

>>153975443
If you look at Redgrave, who Vaati allegedly took ideas from, it goes far past item descriptions. BB allows a lot more theorising than a lot of DS lore, which is where the problems came from.

>>153975443
I don't know but I'll stab a bitch if someone steals my 4 with the hidden 5th theory and makes money with it.

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>>153975308
I guess I'm just looking in the wrong places. I appreciate the unintentional direction you pointed me in.

>>153975326
It's a return to Demon's Souls the end of the cycle the killing of the cash cow blah blah
same with the morion blade and the one other demon's thing
also unupgradeable armor

>>153974436
missing a couple 99's here and there but you're on the right way

what's the meta SL and location now?
Pontiff SL120?

>>153973760
doesn'tknowaboutscaling/10

>>153975628
http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=%E9%BB%92%E8%A1%A3%E3%81%AE%E7%81%AB%E9%98%B2%E5%A5%B3

Knock yourself out of thy shit taste

>>153975472
It's a very nebulous form of plagiarism, however. Most of the time, these ideas are molded in forums such as these, so many can take ownership of the ideas without being necessarily wrong. Especially on youtube, its hard to present ideas and then claim them unquestionably as your own.

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>>153975608
That's actually 30fps

Also

>>153975472
>>153975610
Both of them probably just had the same ideas because they read reddit and think alike. They came to the same conclusions because they were obvious conclusions and the safest interesting and cool way to interpret the backstory.

>>153975619
A long time ago in some dark souls forum I said "velka is the crow". Don't make the same mistake I did and let it go unpunished.

>>153975148
tell him to drop that if he wants to be recognized for other than another vaati clon then

people got this stupid idea that every time you talk about dark souls you have to do it in this somewhat calm voice, he's doing a nice job already but at first i thought i was watching vaati until he made his introduction

>149 hours in the game
>still can't into melee beyond having spams to try to be unpredictable, then spamming when I'm in range

I need some legitimate tips. PCs and NPCs alike know exactly when to start their attacks to nail me, while everything I do gets blocked, dodged, or simply walked away from. I have enough health and armour to have acceptable trades with mobs, but I can only stand a chance in an invasion if I run around and wait for blues.

My archer and sorcerer runs were a blast, now this is just fucking awful.

>>153975608
Its literally only 1 ladder, the one leading into Undead Parish from the Drake Bridge.

>>153975852
Dude, I love some Maiden in Black, but its honestly a tie between MiB, Priscilla, and Maria.

>>153973760
>EK with drake sword and midshield and GCF
>doesn't post stats
That's more of a stereotype than a big lipped nigger eating watermelon anon

You're gonna do great

>>153975905
Maybe, but when you make your own lore videos (like I do) you begin to understand the craft and you realise it's very easy to split your own thoughts from what you have absorbed from others or on forums.

It depends on the approach. If I decide to make some notes on my own interpretations and observations first, I can truthfully say what it mine and what is not.

Then if I want to view other people's theories and thoughts, I can make further notes on what others have said and whether it disproves on compliments what I had thought originally.

If you approach it correctly, it's very easy to make sure you're not taking someone else's hard work.

>>153976101

That's Quelaag's Furysword you dummy.

>>153976101
>Drake Sword

Actual newfag spotted

>>153976101
You forgot
>no humanity while having furysword and chaos pyro

>>153976164
>>153976163
Oh my fuck, no, I just haven't played it in forever.

I feel really bad, leave me alone.

>>153976101
>drake sword
Wow, just, like, stop posting anytime

>>153976157
Why would you consider someone elses "work" their own, when it's just an intepretation? Surely making a video copying someone else's video format is the actual issue here and you're not that stupid.

>>153975716
Here are some Demon's Souls throwbacks :
>Knight starting with longsword
>knight shield
>blessed upgrade path
>simple infusion
>mana
>Not Maiden in Black
>Archdragon's Greatshield
>Yhorm
>Stormruler
>Morne's great hammer
>Burger king mask
>Moron blade
>Second chance
>Temple knight starting class
>Karla
>Entire Irithyll dungeon
>Bridge to homoprinces

>>153976095
There's those too

http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=%E5%8D%8A%E7%AB%9C%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A9
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>>153976157
>hard work
>this is what lorefags think

Oh my, you people are little attention sluts aren't you?

>>153976393
Second chance is closer to what it was in 2 than in DeS, it's just bringing that one spell back.

>>153976393
You forgot one

>Crescent Falchion

>It's literally now an actual canon weapon in the shape of a fucking Crescent Moon, falchion moveset

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>>153976101
That was good b8, congrats.

>>153976393
You forgot Gundyr and homosword

>>153976576
I'd like to see you get more than ten people to listen to your useless opinion on anything, faggot.

>>153976621
>Crescent Weapons in DeS were created with Darkmoon Stones

DEEPEST

>>153976576
>he hasn't read the Paleblood hunt

Takes a lot of hard work to make something like that, you may call it autistic but that guy was certainly extremelly dedicated

>>153976157
Yes, but if someone presents something that you can't help but see as the only correct interpretation, you would be forcing yourself to misrepresent your ideas for no reason other than the fact that some other guy decided that "Hey, y'know the nameless king could be the firstborn of gwyn". Some of these 'plagiarized' ideas are completely tiny and nebulous things. Ashen Hollow recently posted a video talking about his experience with Vaati, and the whole time i couldnt help but think about how small and obvious these things were. Coincidence is easy to find when you have millions of passionate people scanning every second of your video to find congruence with your own hundreds of hours of sitting in threads

>>153976393
Regenerator's ring
Combining two swords into one
lmao2kat

>>153976621
I also forgot the Winged Knight Greataxes and the evangelist fat ministers.

>>153971989
TELL ME ABOUT GWYNDOLIN

WHY DOES HE HAVE SNAKES FOR LEGS

>Firelink Shrine
Not Nexus
>High Wall/Settlement
Not Burg
>Road of Sacrifices
Not Darkroot
>Farron Keep
Not Blight town/Valley of Defilement
>Carthus
Not Catacombs/Chalice Dungeon
>Smouldering Lake
Not Ash Lake/Izalith
>Irithyll
Not Anor Londo
>Irithyll Dungeon
Not Latria
>Anor Londo
Actually Anor Londo
>Lothric Castle
Not Boletaria Castle
>Grand Archive's
Not Duke's Archives
>Dark Firelink
Not Firelink
>Archdragon Peak
Not Dragon Aerie
>Kiln of the First Flame
Kiln of the First Flame

So here is the list of original areas in DkS3:
>Cathedral of the Deep
>Profaned Capital (lol)
>Consumed King's Garden

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Tbh i don't see the problem with the four kings guys, great music and arena

>>153976905
cause his dad is fucking Frampt or some shit idk any more

>>153976802
To be honest, Vaati promised Ashen a shoutout. He and I have both exchanged emails with Vaati.

He's an ok guy, but tends not to deliver on what he says he's going to do. I think that video was to make sure Vaati didn't "forget."

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>>153976101
right, i forgot my stats

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>>153976951
>four kings
>more than four kings can spawn
just fuck my shit up

>>153976905
porn

>>153976752
You say that as if you've earned some merit? I think not.

>>153976795
All he did was write everything from the game down. Impressive, sure.

>>153976951
The criticism that it's a DPS check is legitimate, however, I've seen a YTer fight all five at once at SL1 just to prove it was possible.

I like the boss, but I can see why anons who can't mete the gangbang hate them.

>Inheriting the cinders of the 5 lords and unlocking the kiln doesn't grant permanent ember status for the remainder of that NG cycle
Wasted oppourtunity

>>153977063

>start as pyromancy
>STR 35 while using Furysword

mmmmmmm

Wanderer is the best starting class of DaS1

>>153977101
What would you count as merit?

>>153976948
Road of Sacrifices isn't Darkroot. Farron Keep literally is darkroot on the other hand. If you wanted to accuse Road of sacrifices of being a knockoff of an area, it'd probably be Royal Wood.

>>153977169
i was a using black knight sword until recently and i figured i'd put more points in strenght
i have no idea what i'm doing but i'm having fun anyway

>>153977128
Yes, let's make the game even easier.
Stop posting at any time.

>>153977272

That's not how you spell warrior.

>>153977394
>he actually runs out of embers

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>>153977128
>Eclipse doesn't cause helldemons to get drawn to you and inders get directed to you even when solo
Even more of a wasted opportunity

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>>153977272
>no wanderer set in das3

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>>153973694

>>153977327
I wouldn't count as deserving of merit anything that the community does for discovering the lore in these games. It's ridiculous how big the circlejerk around it is.

I don't dislike this sort of thing, really, but come the fuck on.

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>>153976951
The fight is great, I just personally find it terrifyingly disorienting.

Abyss is spoopy

>>153977584
>everyone whines about too much DaS1 fanservice in DaS3
>at the same time, everyone whines about their favorite armor and weapons not making a comeback
really makes you think...

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>>153977593
I really really like this picture.

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>Reading the Demon's wiki again

What a sad sorry fucking state huge weapons became in this series.

>>153976951
CUTE!

>>153977601
>thousands of people watch and enjoy your content
>get money for doing so
>becomes a fun community to chat and discuss with

I'm going to bet you were bullied as a child or something.

>>153977756
Btw original art my friend made for me months ago.

>>153977645
Tbh it's the only boss fight that get me scared or uneasy as fuck, mainly because of the area

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=69&v=WNPD0EK9W34

am I the only one that is mildly hyped?

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Who /Edwad/ here?

>>153977658
>everyone
Not me. I'm in the "why the hell isn't every item from every other game in the game?" camp.

>>153977574

>Eclipse doesn't do anything at all