/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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I love this guy

BIG
GUY
SUIT
ARMOR

Best DS2 PvEstomper build that isn't a blunt weapon or red iron twinblade?

Best DS2 soul farming spot?

>If you don't read any item descriptions, you won't learn anything about the game's lore.

Is this good game design? Fuck man, if there weren't item descriptions during loading screens, no one would understand shit about the game. And fucking Miyazaki keeps boasting on twitter, saying he's a great developer because his games don't rely on cutscenes to tell the story. Fuck this guy and fuck this series.

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Grunbeld, look at me
I'm the giant now

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I love bullying Kriemhild!

>no dynamic lighting system when even basic indie games have them
>rehashed areas
>rehashed NPCs
>invasions sucks
>Heavy armor sucks
>brown and grey
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one LOCKED BEHIND THE FINAL BOSS
>awful covenants
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for quirky weapons. In the end less weapon variety than BB
>No animation canceling
>No backstep i-frames
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>pyromancy is the quality of casters
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB

>b-but the DLC will save it!
lmfao

>>153939610
I love shitty AI!

>>153939582
Drakeblood Greatsword

>>153939582
rapier, estoc, falchion

use soul vessel, get 30/30 int/fth, spam great resonant soul on giant lord

>Keep teaming up with a Darkwraith named Darkwraith in Irithyll when I invade and end up with him
Nice

>>153939696
>split damage
>takes too long to get

>>153939726
I was thinking estoc to still be metacancer but not use a twinblade or blunt weapon anyway, thanks

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Anybody know how to make Boss vs Boss fights ?

I want Pontiff to fight the Nameless King

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>tfw

>>153939573
That picture is super crappy though.

>>153939598
>taking miyazaki's tweets serious

There are layers of irony on everything he does. The guy is a living meme.

>>153939870
>constant source of humanity
>turn into a mangled husk
firelinkers, everybody

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>>153939870
o fuck

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Any PS4 players need any assistance?

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>Sword and board Smough

Vomit.jpg

>boss has a stunlock combo that you can't escape no matter what
>boss can juggle you for hours
>boss can hit you while you're lying down on the ground
>boss has infinite poise
>boss is too far away from the bonfire

>>153940116
well, it's pretty much impossible to actually hit the sacks with his hammer

>>153940158
>boss actually has dangerous combinations*
>boss doesnt give you free windows of rest to* recover mentally
>boss isnt cheesable with large weapons*
corrected a couple for you, you're welcome

>>153940116
>Ornstein
>not a single piece of his set

I will never understand this autism.

>>153940158
Manus?

>>153940158
so manus

>complaining about the difficulty of any boss in any game

Back to /skyrim/.

>>153940265
if this is NG, there's no way for him to obtain Ornstein's armor at this point of the game

>>153940158
>boss has infinite poise
There is literally nothing wrong with that

>>153940367
nor smoughs

>>153940367
>>153940265

It's NG, I'm only SL 20-something
I just wanted to farm some medals before moving on

>>153939970
>source of humanity
>implying
>implying that you're not just the strongest Undead in the room
>implying that you won't hollow out like all the other undead plebs
>implying that you weren't tricked by Kaathe so that he can laugh at your shuffling, zombified form has he hangs out with all the other serpents in the dark

>there are people who unironically dislike DaS3

I will never understand this type of autism.

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>>153940116
posting a superior smough

>>153939870
what anime does this reference? who is Kyuubey?

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>>153940269
>>153940326
you only need to kill 1 enemy to get to manus and it's a light trek if you've opened the shortcut
>>153940265
>not ceing his equipment at the start of a cosplay run
ha, what a loser
sounds like you're the autistic one
>>153940464
i got humanity for millenia, nigga. maybe you should git gud at invading

>>153940564
Madoka

>>153940564
>what is google

>>153940531
>DMB twinblades
>using a fucking talisman to buff
OOOOOH SHOOOOOT

>>153940449
>>153940367

Ah. k.

Ornstein & Smough still makes me cringe tho.

I legit met a Pikachu & Snorlax with full set & weapons on PS4 about a week after the game was launched.
It would've been epic but they were absolute shitters.

>>153940494
I dislike it because the PvP and lasting appeal are very bad compared to every other game in the series. It has great bosses and environments though, it's just too linear and the lack of poise+build variety is a bummer.

The inability to understand other peoples' opinions is a sign of autism, anon.

>>153940564
Madoka Magica

He's a monkey's paw wish granter kind of
>Oh yeah I granted your wish become magical girl now
>Oh yeah I forgot to mention we use your tears as fuel

>>153940158
I've been getting really salty about Champ Gundyr always hitting me while I'm on the ground, literally unable to do anything. I'm fine with a challenge until the game literally doesn't let me even attempt to react.

>>153940653
I only had 30 fth too
that was before people figured out how the buffs work

>>153940158
>boss has ridiculous elemental defence
>gotta make the NPC summon survive the fight to progress through the questline

>>153940590
>>153940693
is Madoka good?

>>153940726
Siegward's quest did this right

It's relatively easy to keep him alive on NG

>>153940780
It's alright as far as chinese cartoons go
I haven't watched the movie(s?) yet so I have no opinion there

SO I never triggered yuria for firelink shrine. Do her ashes appear anywhere or am i just fucked?

>DaS1
>lock onto an enemy
>roll directions literally become RNG

>>153940582
human form won't save you from losing your mind, moron, just ask the Crestfallen Merchant, who's human form and also on the verge of slipping

>>153940780
It's decent. It's slow to start but gets good after the third ep.

>>153940881
Can Siegward even die?

Isn't 58 mbps average? I spent 3 weeks making a PvP build on DaS1 and holy shit this lag is retarded. I can't believe you guys played this game for years.

>>153939903
Didn't I see you in those short-lived EDF 4.1 generals ?

>>153940726
>want Mirrah Greatsword so bad
>Lost Sinner keeps hitting her and she never even blocks

>>153940895
my loads'a'humanity will. i don't think crestfallen merchant has any humanity at all, just his human form. i'll go suck him and check

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>>153941002

>not using the connectivity mod

wew
e
w

>>153940887
>DaS1
>point up
>finger isn't all fucked up

>DaS2 bosses are so shit I can't even remember who the 4 Great Ones were without googling it

>>153941224
>Fume Knight
>Smelter Demon
>The Pursuer
>Burnt Ivory King
>Lud & Zallen
>not the best bosses in the series

>Summon Sif while fighting Manus
>He still has the moveset and AI of his boss while lacking damage and any offensive nature
>Just pussyfoots around the arena and hits Manus 3 times throughout the entire fight
>Eats the entirety of Manus' Dark Volley at point blank and dies instantly
He had the Health of Vengarl, the usefulness of Manhunter O'Harrah, and the damage of Sirris

>Summon phantom for nameless king
>Lightning buff on his ugs
>Kills dragon form in literally sub 60seconds
>Switches to katana on second form
>we duel it out with second form nk
>Right before boss dies he crystals out
>giving me all the souls
What a guy...

>>153941347
What about Alonne? He was my fav.

>>153941224
>Ivory Kang
>Shit

lad..

>>153941504
Go slit your wrist, Lucifer.

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>>153940895
>>153941151
yeah, 0 humanities with the dark hand, 0 humanities dropped after death

>>153941347
>>Fume Knight
Too easy.
>>Smelter Demon
Just another generic "big dude in armor" fight
>>The Pursuer
Parry 2 Win
>>Burnt Ivory King
Meh
>>Lud & Zallen
just another gank boss

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Nameless King keeps wrecking my shit. So far I've only managed to get him to about 50% hp before he combos my shit.
At least I got this staff.

Anyone got any tips? I'm currently using Hollowslayer for melee and the Avelyn for ranged.

>>153941556
What?

If you were to fight a firekeeper, would she use pyromancies or miracles?

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>>153941347
>>153941504
>>153941516
>no love for looking glass knight
Come on guys.

>>153937495
Don't beat yourself up. I'm the averagest of average players you'll ever see. If a slacker like myself made it, you can do it too!

>>153941703
>No Looking Glass Knight-type bossfight in DaS3
Sadness

>>153940158
>boss shares a critical weakness with a mid-game boss that lets you kill him in five or six attacks

>>153940780
It's Urobuchi, the guy re-uses plot and story points in every single one of his shows. But usually he uses them pretty damn well and they're a good change of pace from your regular Chinese cartoon.

>>153941347
>Smelter
Unless you're talking about Blue Smelter, no, the first Smelter wasn't that hard. Though granted, I'd summoned Lucatiel for that fight for her quest, so she took most of the aggro for me.

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>>153941178
>DaS1
>Gestures don't make your weapon disappear

>>153941703
I'm the one who posted Alonne. You're right, anon, LGK was great too.

>>153941610
that doesn't matter in the slightest, the only thing that prevents hollowing is stopping yourself from getting bored and staying driven. How many soft humanities that you've got in your counter is irrelevant

>>153941798
>get 99 dex 99 fth
>ds spear STILL has shit AR

>>153941781
First smelter was an absolute monster on vanilla release.

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>>153941674
>Based Ivory King
>me
I didn't know it was physically possible to have taste this fucking awful.

>>153941682
If you're on PS4 I'll solo him for you.
If not then I'll give you some advice.

NK heavily telegraphs his attacks. The catch is that when he's finished winding up his attacks come put ridiculously fast. Learn the timing on his wind ups and dodge as soon as the wind up is finished. 99% of the time you'll dodge whatever he throws at you once you get the timing down on those wind ups.

>meme character
>turns out to be super strong

which is better:
>girl
>girl (boy)

>>153942214
How about
>boy (girl)

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Guise, what class did you start with and why?

>>153942273
deprived for fun. Knight if im speeding through the game from now on

>>153941781
first smelter is ezpz when you learn his audio cues, he's super telegraphed

>>153942273
Assassin, completely based on looks, I loved that badass tunic.

I always pick my starting class based on the look of the starting gear, nothing else.

>>153942083
Not on PS4. Thanks for the offer though.
Is he weak to any elemental damage?

>>153942273
Cleric

I deleted the character after Abyss Watchers and started with K***ht

>>153942346
>he leveled adaptability

>>153940887
rolls aren't rng, you just need to realize 3 things:
1. you can only roll forwards, backwards and side to side, which is why learning to play unlocked is important
2. you roll according to where your character looks, not the camera
3. when locked, you have a turning speed, you can't immediately look to your back
as such, if you get knocked down and the enemy moves around you before you get up, you will think you're rolling one direction, but really you'll be rolling another. luckily, the remedy is simple. break lock whenever you get down, relock after you roll
>>153941870
im pretty driven on sucking out all this humanity.

>>153941780
That would probably be unfair as hell. Summoning an enemy player would be an insta-lose if the boss himself were as fast and dangerous as the standard DaS3 boss, the only reason it was remotely fair in the case of LGK was because he was slow and easy to predict and flank, so you could reliably deal with him and his phantom at the same time. Imagine if you had a Gundyr-fast boss who could stay on your ass, or could fill the arena with projectiles, all while another player fucks your shit up. Unless the summon works under some kind of handicap, you'd have a boss that breaks players harder than Ornstein and Smough.

>>153942495
>im pretty driven on sucking out all this humanity.
and what happens when you've sucked all the humanity and you're on top of a kingdom of hollows who all have nothing?

>>153941682
if you use a straight sword, you can do the stagger strat and kill him easily, but i don't know if it works for other weapon classes. you could also bleed him easily
you can do the fight quickly if you never get far away from him - when he flies away, always move towards him. the best attack he can do is the fast double swipe - roll two swipes and try to recover right in front of him - he will do a slow stab or lightning attack later on - roll the stab to the side and he won't followup - that gives you an enormous window to attack, you can probably get a R2 there. vertical swipe is another good attack, it doesn't have a followup - it has fast recovery though, you should probably punish it with rolling R1. when he flies away, you can probably shoot him but he can step forward a bit and the swipe combo will get you - it's safer to stand still after he does it, shoot and then move towards him

>>153942273
Knight because it seemed like it might be useful. Wish I stuck with my original gut feeling of Warrior, which would have been much better.

what do people mean when they say quality build

>>153942435
His dragon is EXTREMELY weak to lightning. You can easily beat the 1st phase in about 30 seconds with something that does lightning damage. Nameless himself is weak to fire, I believe.

>>153942663
DaS1: 28-45
DaS2: Sun Sword
DaS3: lol

>>153942663
40 Str, 40 Dex. Pure physical damage output, fuck spells.

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>Every single bit of lore about the court sorcerers is about how they're huge Logan wannabes

Poor guys.

>>153940780
It takes 3 episodes to get going, but then it really gets going.
The movie is a goddamn masterpiece.

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>>153942453
>I deleted the character after [early game] and started with [something else]

I always keep doing this ad infinitum in Souls games. This is the reason I own all 4 souls games, play them lots, but haven't finished a single one.

>>153942556
i redistribute it and start sucking all over, nigga you can't touch me. don't you have some soaperie to go enroll in?

>>153942737
LITERALLY ME

Never did any PvP because I can't finish any characters. I see some other build on the internet and delete my character.

>>153942663
softcapping both strength and dex to maximize the damage of any weapon that scales with both.

Traditionally, quality builds were primarily optimized for quality weapons, obviously. Pure strength and pure dex weapons were usable, but the 40 wasted points in the other stat put you at a disadvantage over a pure build. In DaS3, every weapon is a quality weapon so quality is always the best build.

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>Oceiros on a sorcerer

What.
What do you want from me

What is the point of hitting STR/DEX softcaps on DaS1 when Chaos weapons do the same damage? Holy shit I fucking hate this game.

>>153942273
Merc because I got fooled by the Legion Scimitar meme

>>153942880
It's your punishment for practicing witchcraft.

I got the mircle maiden in my shrine but the bro with the big hammer left my shrine and isn't at his usual place, did I miss my chance to murder him?

>>153942713
>45 dex
why

>>153942880
bandit knife

>>153942880
Go to Irithyll and get an Immolation Tinder from one of the Fire Witches. Max that shit out and thank me later.

dark souls 2 is the shittiest souls game

>>153943015
sanic black flames

>Invade as a mad phantom
>Kill the Host or 1 (now 2 more) phantoms
>Dunk his phantom
>Dont get my shekel
>Die because hosts are fags
IM GETTING CHEATED MY GOYIMS
WHERES MY SHIT MICKEYMOTO

>>153943015
max. black flame cast speed
makes a huge difference.

>decided to do an Offline cheese mode playthrough for fun
>cheat engine infinite souls
>everything lvl 99
>still died 7 times in Farron's Keep

holy niggers

>>153942735
>The movie is a goddamn masterpiece.
fuck off Homura

>>153943012

he dies eventually you'll know when his armor set shows up at the shop, then you go back to where you first met Irina to get his hammer and shield

>>153943015
presumably pyro cast speed since it's basically free

>>153942663
quality was an "infusion" in des, balancing the str and dex scaling of a weapon. commonly it's 40/40 or 27/40, depending on if you prefer to 1hand your weapon or 2hand. generally quality builds refer to that particular stat distribution and quality weapons are those who scale about equally with both str and dex. quality weapons in ds3 are considered the ones which benefit best from the refined gem. because of fromsoft's retardation, that comprises of 95% of infusable weapons.

>>153942273
Herald. Armor looked great, not a fan of spears but that can be replaced, and wanted to make a paladin.
Holy god that sucked. Besides the armor, everything about that class is just complete trash. Deleted him shortly after getting lightning spear.

>>153943129
what a bitch, I was about to murder the miracle maiden in hopes he showed back up

>>153943103
>>153943098
>unironically picking black flame over great combustion

>>153943117
AI YO

>>153942273
Herald because look at that fucking armor, man.

Just look at it.

>>153942094
I honestly think this is the feeling PvP was made for.

>>153943263
FUCK OFF Homura, stop being evil

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ITT: Characters that are literally you.

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YO WADDUP

>>153943202

You can make him come back and abduct miracle lady if you give her either the deep or londor tome and learn a dark miracle but it complicates things because if you use her to learn every dark miracle she gets fucked up and stops functioning as a vendor

>>153943202
You could also give her the Londor or Deep tomes and force her to read you a sad story. That causes him to get pissed at you and you can fight him at Gundyr's.

>>153943461
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour?

>>153943206
why the fuck would you ever pick GC over black flame? Black flame is basically GC+poise/stability damage for free

>>153942273
Herald because it looked like the perfect template for quality+miracles.

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>>153942589
Alright. I will try to outroll this fucker so I can take his shit. Wish me luck.

>>153943469
*dragon roars*
*ninja flips behind u*
*puts on hornet ring*
*backstabs with 2-handed power within red tearstone crystal great club +5*
*looks skyward*

>>153943191
No you're just bad.

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>>153943461

>blue estus gets halfed too
HAHAHHAHAHAHA
oh man
I mean, i already had to sacrifice stats for both int and att, but nw I'm halving my ALREADY HALVED estus?

God forbid anyone do anything other than pure quality

>>153943461
Wrong thread weebshit.

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>>153943489
me guesta

>>153943557
>he doesn't know
Anon, I...

>>153943556
sasuke is the most boring faggot ever, he has literally no sense of humor, and he's dumb as a bag of bricks too

>>153943607
good luck. Bloodring helps a lot with that

>>153943772
>*
what did they do?

>>153943698
>he didn't watch naruto in his childhood
>he didn't wake up at 5 am and walk silently barefeet at the tip of his toes in ice-cold house just to watch 12 year old ninjas locked up in a forest forced to murder each other on cartoon network

>>153943686
>15 max total estus
>You will GUARANTEED lose an estus if youre invading or helping anyone
Just fucking increase the estus count by 1 Fromsoft

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Least favorite area in each game? Also, argue about why we have shit taste.
Des: Hub
Das: crystal cave/duke archives
Das2:shrine of amana/iron keep
Das3:izalith v2.0

>>153943894
Oh man. Those were the good days. :(

>>153943945
Forest areas are always my least favourite. Everyone hates them, I don't know why From keeps forcing them into every game.

>>153943945
Smouldering Lake I get but holy fuck.
Pleb taste for everything else.
Who doesn't like the fucking Nexus?

>>153943761
you gave me awesome idea what build should I make. Thanks anon

>>153941674

Why in the fuck would you bother with parrying the pursuer when you can't even riposte, there is no point. Just dodge his first attack and shoot his ass.

>>153943894
I didn't watch that shit and I'm not 12 anymore

dude

what if

Dude what if...Miyazaki made a Super Smah Bros like game with the Bosses as characters ?

>>153943945
Shrine of Amana has amazing treasures though.
And I will never understand the Iron Keep hate.

>>153944103
>he cheeses bosses
>>>/out/

>>153944068
People tormented by lowres tvs when younger. Couldn't see half my shit. fell to my death too many times. Couldnt even see the compass on my skryim game.

>>153943945
>he didn't hate Unfinished Izalith
Duke's Archives were a bit convoluted, sure, and the invisible walkways inside Crystal Caves were bullshit, but at least they were complete experiences and not just open lava fields filled with bullshit enemies.

>>153944103
You parry him to set him up for the ballista

>>153943607
just get a bleed weapon
https://my.mixtape.moe/zfvokr.webm

>>153943945
Do you just not like the colour blue?

>>153944158

I wouldn't call it cheesing, only things that were not really intended that way by the developers that make the boss incredibly easy. But those ballistas are right there waiting for you.

Anyway, it's either that or roll to his right and poke his butt until he is dead. Equally exciting but the former is quicker.

>>153944158
Amana was a beautiful level, I can understand the hate for the casters but the rest of the level more than makes up for it.

People just hate the furnace room in Iron Keep because of the Weeb Knight gank squad. I found it grating but not a deal-breaker, honestly.

>>153944290
or just dodge every attack and hit him until he dies?

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>>153943570
Jokes on you Knight is a better choice for that build.

>>153944490
Wouldnt using a good weapon kill him just as fast? Dealing ~600 damage every 8 hits or so at the cost of only dealing 70 damage a hit doesnt seem that worthwile.

Anyone need help on PC?

>>153944610
yeah but you can upgrade the bleed weapon too

>>153944610
that's a +2 raw barbed sword, surely you can get a +9 with better infusion

>>153944486
I hated amana for multiple reasons. Falling off water cliffs, invasion hotspot, bullshit range on casting. It was beautiful though. And Iron keep just plain hurts my eyes and I find it hideous after spending so much time there pvping in dark souls 2.

>>153944460
If you're fighting Pursuer for the first time, you're probably not going to notice the huge blind spots to his right until after you've been hollowed down to 50%. And at low levels you're not going to try to parry him because missing will cause you to eat his combo and probably die.

>we will never get a DLC based on a former chosen undead who refused to link the fire

i want to make an omnicaster in ds2, do i start sorcerer and leg it to heides>copse or is there something more to it? funnest spells in each category?
>>153944503
knight is a better choice for almost any build, including some casters.
>not starting your character with a class for cosplay purposes

>>153943945
DeS: N/A
DaS: Undead Burg
DaS2: No Man's Wharf
DaS3: Farron Keep
BB: Nightmare Frontier

>>153943945
DeS: Stonefang
DS1: Royal Wood
DS2: Virtually entire fucking game, i seriously can't remember an area where i had fun with the exception of Brume Tower maybe
DS3: Probably Road of Sacrifices and only because it takes longer to traverse than the majority of levels if you're just rushing for something

>>153943945
DeS: 4-2 or 2-2. I have unpleasent memories of getting lost for hours in the bugbear hive on a shitty low-rez tv, then realizing that entire section of the level is optional and didn't have anything worth getting anyway.
DaS: Izalith, I guess? There's no area in 1 I outright dislike.
DaS2: Frozen Outskirts.
DaS3: Farron Keep. Hey, so we've got these enemies with huge, slow hits and lots of homing projectiles, and these really fast, maneuverable enemies, AND these enemies that shoot clouds that kill you if you linger in them. Let's put ALL of these things in deep swamp where you can barely fucking move. Difficulty!

>>153944779
Dark Soul will be the final boss of a second DLC, mark my word.

>>153944946
>he unironically wants visually attractive areas

You're missing out the point of the game. It's supposed to be ugly. That's why DaS2 is statistically the best game in the series.

>>153943945
>DeS
???

>DaS
FPStown

>2
Outskirts of Ivory Kang DLC

>BB
Lmao

>3
I dunno
The wall-clipping-chain-axe dude in archdragon peak is beyond frustrating.

There should be a petition to retcon Dark Souls 2.

>>153945092
>i-it's supposed to look bad

Stupid.

>>153943945
>DaS: Obviously Izalith
>DaS2: Earthern peak (because 4 attempts at a no death run ended there)
>BB: Forbidden Woods
>DaS3: Farron keep

Can we send an ambassador to reddit so we can unite forces and revive DaS2?

>>153944808
Miracles are largely worthless until late game because Lightning Spear has been nerfed into the ground, and you don't get Sunlight Blade until Shrine of Amana (one of the five final areas of the game not counting DLC). The only reason to use them early is if you want Caressing Prayer and/or Homeward, the former is useful in Harvest Valley and Earthen Peak while the latter can save you souls (and reduce SM inflation) from not having to buy Homeward Bones. The healing spells can be useful for not using Lifegems and saving on Estus, but not much else.

You'll probably want to go for Int first while slowly raising Faith for Hexes. Early Attunement is also worthwhile because it actually improves casting speed.

>>153942273
On my newest, K***ht because he's thematically the best for a tanky fucker

Vit gouging etc etc

>>153944158
>And I will never understand the Iron Keep hate.
dude what if we threw 100 enemies into a 100 sqft room and had them all aggro to you from twice their own draw distance away? that's fun, right?

>>153944892
why undead burg?

>>153945212
18+

>>153945231
Every day we get worse baits

>>153945053
cringe

I can kill the stray demon myself but if anyone wants to team up, on pc soul lvl 55 pls consider me!

Dark Souls II was abysmal. How did this even become a souls game?

>>153945320
>being THIS bad

Back to /bbg/.

>>153943945
>Demon's Souls
4-2. Really linear, no interesting encounters, fuck manta rays.
>Dark Souls
Anor Londo. It's amazing first time but I always get bored there on subsequent playthroughs. Yeah Izalith is unfinished garbage but it's short and easy, I can usually beat BoC first try with the quit/load trick.
>Dark Souls 2
Drangleic Castle. Arguably the only area with worse enemy placement in SOTFS than the original. Cool aesthetic from the outside, but the interiors are hideous and make no sense.
>Bloodborne
Nightmare of Mensis. Micolash is fantastic, Wet Nurse is weak, rest of the level is linear and bland considering it's a nightmare. The drop out of the moving elevator to reach the brain switch is the most frustrating thing in the entire game.
>Dark Souls 3
Farron Keep. Poison swamp levels are always shit and this one is the worst. First part of the game where the callbacks take precedent over new ideas.

>>153945320
>he can't handle fighting two enemies at once
lol

>>153945496
>>153945572

>if you didn't like the area you must automatically be too shit at the game to get past it
blind fanboy defense #1, every time

>>153945336
Can't say I hate it, but it was the most frustrating area as a noob.

>>153945472
what's the password/where do i put my sign?

>>153943945
das: the depths
das2: shaded woods
das3: farron keep because no rusted iron ring (the most important ring in dark souls)

>>153945239
Don't you dare discount heavenly thunder and emit force and soul appease. The lightning spear nerf really hurts and is still the worst thing From's ever done, but miracles are still relatively fine.

>>153945320
And then you learn you gotta move forward a little slowly and let them come to you and it's completely fine.

>>153945640
dsg put your sign at keep ruins, I havent been to the area yet

>>153941687
probably would instacurse you

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>>153943945
Probably 2-1. Can't put my finger on it. Just feels like a slog everytime.

Tomb of the Giants. Having my vision impaired in non horror games is a pet peeve.

The area with the windmill/snake lady/poison whatever. Just dull, ugly and uninteresting. Picked up once you got in the building, but even then felt like a poor man's Sens Fortress. Also, the Jabba boss sucked major cock.

Farron Keep.
Love the boss fight, love going up on the bridge, the dead mushrooms is some of the more impactful imagery in the game. Just going through it really hampers my enjoyment.

Even though you didn't ask for it, just to be thorough, for BB I dislike Nightmare Frontier.
Amy is disappointing, unappealing colour palette, winter lanterns, the mandatory 'youre being poisoned and can't run' water.
Not hard, just not fun either

>>153945605
but he literally admitted he hates the area because he can't fight more than one enemy

>>153945717
>And then you learn you gotta move forward a little slowly and let them come to you and it's completely fine.
still super tedious and unfun

>no pursuer covenant where you invade players as the pursuer
>get dropped by a bird
>get randomly assigned one weapon from the pursuer's arsenal

Are miracles worth it in the long run?

The Divine Pillars spell looks fun, and the upcoming light disc looks cool as fuck, so I'm really tempted to invest in FTH.

>>153945739
i will probably get grabbed

>STILL no summon skeleton hex

>SL 45 +5 cleansing chapel invasions

So this is what fun is supposed to feel like

>>153945873
no you wont!

>>153945861
But anon, that would be nice, how dare you

>>153945861
this sounds too fun to happen

>>153945826
I admitted no such thing, I hate it because the gank makes boss runs on Smelter very annoying, and it's also very tedious

>>153945861
>No Pursuer Covenant
>Instead we got that fag Tetchy Gren
>You have to win ONE THOUSAND consecutive invasions/ duels to get GCF
Covenants in DaS2 were ass

>>153945496
>/bbg/

>DUDE 50 MILLION RED SPIDERS LMFAO

>tfw missed out on teenage sex
>will never fuck virgin pussy

Rank the souls games out of 10. Go.

>>153945861
You want fun covenants?
Hahaha, go back to grind bellfags while we hold your orbs hostage

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>>153945870
good offensive miracles are slow hard hitters, they wipe out everything in pve even on extremely high ng cycles but have troubles in pvp unless you're fighting retards though 95% of players are retards

>>153945870
It's supposed to be pretty good now, one of the recent patches gave several weapons FTH scaling, Wolnir's is supposed to be one of the best FTH weapons in the game now.

>>153946051
Optional content tbf

>>153945843
It's really not very tedious. There's like two spots where it's best to pause and wait.

>>153946054
fuck off Lothric

>>153943945
DaS1: Lost Izalith, I don't think I need to explain why
DaS2: Huntsman's Copse. Ugly, uninteresting and the road to Executioner's Chariot is fucking bullshit.
DaS3: Farron Keep. Ugly as fuck, swamp shit that slows you down but doesn't affect enemies everywhere, naked ghru and elder ghru. Just thinking about the area makes me vomit.

by the way, you should consider suicide if you hate based duke's archives

>>153946069
DeS: 9/10
DS1: 8/10
DS2: 4/10
DS3: 8/10

I miss Ippiki. He really was the best player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YfVIJMvM1Y

>>153946130
>those graphics
>that fashion

Someone for the love of god PLEASE gift me this fucking game
Everytime someone posts a webm I die inside

>>153946147
Keep is optional

>>153945092
You can make unappealing areas still nice to look at stylistically.
A bunch of people developing and going 'Okay team, let's make this look awful' is fucking dumb.

>>153945873
oh shit i gotta change my clothes over in the wash 2 minutes!

>>153946069
DaS1: 9/10
DaS2: 8/10
DaS3: 6.5/10

>>153946069
Demon: 10
Dark: 10
Dark 2: 8 as souls, 9.0 as a game
Bloodborne: 10
Dark 3: 9.5

why does chosen undead never eat or poop or masturbate

>>153946401
The entire game takes place in less than a day

>>153946401
he does poop
there's a jar filled with shit in your cell in undead asylum

>>153946069
DeS: 9/10
DaS: 9/10
DaS2: 3/10
DaS3: 8.5/10

>>153946401
Why does he make sex noises when an assassin jumps on him and slits his throat?

Do you think rolling will get nerfed? Im tired of fags just watching me take 3-4 swings and waiting until I exhaust my stamina because HOW DARE I decide to play aggressively and make fucking anything happen.

>>153946069
Demon's Souls: 10/10
Dark Souls: 10/10
Dark Souls 2: 10/10
Bloodborne: 10/10
Dark Souls 3: 10/10

If I can play a game for 200 hours and still want more, it's a 10/10, regardless of its flaws.

>>153946401
Because he/she is undead.

>>153946267
Give adress

>>153946401
they are dead bodies animated by humanity
they can't even eat normal food anymore as evident during Sieg's questline as he invented estus soup and siegbrau to remind himself of mortal pleasures.

Reminder that if you think Dark Souls 2 was anything more than a 5/10 game you're a cuck.

>>153939903

Did you know, Bleach is scientifically proven to enlarge your penis and increase your IQ by 50%, all you need to do is drink it.

>>153946563
>skinny brainless zombie with no muscle pokes your armor with a torch a few times
>die instantly
>assassin with sharp knife slits your throat
>lose %20 health

>>153945873
ok if your still down I'm ready

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>>153946035
No, that's wrong. you just have to get rank 2 in the arena to get GCF, which is 100 wins over losses, I think. The reward for 1000 invasions is not consecutive, it's just wins and it's this.

>>153946718
Torch hollows are so bullshit. If I was shirtless and someone swung a torch at me a few times, nothing would happen. Fucking bullcrap.
>touch gaping dragon as he is walking
>instant death

how do I kick /dsg/?

>>153946853
>>153946718
Zombies are really flammable. I guess.

>>153946727
yeah, Keep Ruins bonfire, pass is dsg

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>>153946729
It wasnt 1000, but it sure as hell wasnt as rational an amount as 100. That fucking cuck Wellager holds out on you until NG++ too, which is rediculous since you can Ascetic him for it. Considering Im pretty sure you have to Ascetic AFTER beating Nashandra, which means youve proven you can beat the game, its really bullshit that theyd withhold spells that arent even that amazing in such ways.

>>153946513

>des
>9/10

>shit bosses
>one cool area
>broken physics
>scraping spear
>headbutt stunlock
>grass

Dude, Demons is a solid 7/10 game at best. Dark Souls and Dark Souls 3 improve upon every single facet of Demons, it's time to quit looking at the game with beer filled nostalgia goggles.

>>153943945
Das: Shitetown
Das2: Windmill
Das3: Farron Keep
MGS2: Strut F

How the hell can you hate Duke's more than Blighttown or Izalith? Duke's isn't bad at all. I suppose the puzzle element is annoying, but other than that its fine.

>>153947068
>fextralife

>>153946964
/kick "/dsg/"
Begins the vote

>>153946696
Reminder people who spam cucks are cucks themselves.

>>153947120
It was a first encounter kind of thing. I had such a difficult time navigating the place because each floor looked the same, which looked the same as each room. Blighttown was an easyrun through for me, although Ive skipped it since. Izalith was shit indeed. But its easy to shit on because it actually does suck. Dukes is more frustrating because it's a solid area so you cant even claim bullshit

I just found out that Hellkite Drake is trans. I'm going to have to go through all my likes and remove them + unsub.

one (nothing wrong with me)

>>153947058
waiting for ur sign anon :D

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>>153947318

*tips Washing Pole*

>>153943945
>DaS
Izalith
>DaS2
Brightstone Cove Tseldora
>DaS3
Crucifixion Woods

>>153947334
two (nothing wrong with me)

>>153947318
>a dragon on a bridge is trans
Tumblr please go

>>153947368
the sign's been down for quite a while

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Post messages.

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>>153947514
>200x112

>>153947514
Messages for ants?

>>153947514
>two hundred pixels by one hundred and twelve pixels
what is this shit

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>>153947386
I love that pic

>>153947514
lamo

Dark Souls 1 had the best PvP
Dark Souls 2 and 3 are nowhere near as good.

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>>153947514
Welp.

>>153947068
Everywhere I've checked says that ascetics don't work. You have to get him on NG++ the old fashion way. Or get 500 victories of course.

Way of Blue was a mistake
If people dont want invasions they can play offline or stay unembered

>>153947085
Spoken like a true PCuck whose only experience with DeS is watching youtube videos of it

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>>153947514
How does he dew it?

>>153946718
>>153946853
>>153947023

>Wearing a full plate armor set.

>Armorless, beefjerky hollows wearing rags attack you with potentially centuries old, blunted, broken fragments of swords.

>staggers you and takes off a chunk of your health if you're hit.

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>>153947514
favorite so far

>>153947685
DaS2 had best visual aesthetics
DaS3 had best poise system and build variety

>>153947703
Sorry, meant to say you CANT Ascetic him, which is the bullshit part. NG+ for them legit? Maybe, sure. Still a slog but manageable. NG++? FUUUUCK THAT, especially since Asceticed areas carry over to the other playthroughs, so some areas would be NG+++, or even more.

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i guess you'll have to kill him alone then

>>153947772
>DaS3 had best poise system
So go it's nonexistent.

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>>153947514
I love this one, it's hilarious

>>153947772
Higher bait achieved

>>153947858
That's the point, kiddo. You think the first guy was serious when he said DaS1 had best PvP?

>>153947853
are you sure you have dsg as a password>>

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>>153947768

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>>153947917
>r1 the game
>better than anything

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What's the best dagger in 3 ?

>miyazaki is single

Is it too late for him? Jap women age horribly. Maybe he has a fetish for dragons.

>>153947953
yes. me and some other anon spent like half an hour trying to get summoned there the other day, our signs weren't visible as well

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>>153947514

The dragon body in Dark Souls 3 really turns me on. Especially their cute skinny feet.

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>>153947772
>DaS3 had best poise system and build variety

>>153948070
oki

Why the fuck does the CCS hit so fast

>>153946130
>purple is called vilgefortz
>not playing a sorceror
reeeeeeeee

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>>153948128

>>153948205
>he doesn't measure the latency as soon as invading and parry accordingly

>>153947731
Collector's Edition only.
Those likes are also cheated.

>>153948018
Agree, DaS is indeed the worst one

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>>153947772

Are the ghost phantoms real-time? I always wave at them.

>>153948287
That message has been around a long time, it used to have significantly fewer appraisals

>>153948287
The collector's edition has different messages?
How does one cheat to get more likes? Do likes even do anything in this game?

>>153948418
>Collector's Edition
>CE

You all have some weak ass bait game.

If you wanted to trigger people you should have said Dark Souls 2 PvP was the best because it accommodated reddit honor duels by allowing an item to negate backstabbing.

Pick it up you fucking losers.

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>>153948418
lol

>>153948406
No

(it staaaarts with)
ONE THING

>>153947574
>using flame arc just for a screenshot

>>153948418
what's up with all the new people today

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>>153948406
I believe they were real time in DaS. I don't think the ghost can necessarily see you just because you can see them though. Honestly, I have no idea how that works.

>Invade a world
>Host has CCS, Carthus Rouge, 2 phantoms with katanas, tears of denial, and uses green blossoms
>Starts losing in a 2v2, runs back to bonfire to summon the same katana phantoms again
Holy fuck how much of a faggot can you possibly be

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>>153948128
A starving african with a goat head turns you on?

>>153948501
>backstab
>good game mechanic

God bless Jester's Robes.
Also:
>heavier weapons are harder to backstab with
DaS2 PvP was a blessing.

>>153948696
Rolls are also trash in dark souls 2, compared to flippers and stupid ass dark souls 3 no stamina rolls
That pvp is basically perfect

>>153944103
Because it gives you a huge window to do massive damage, and all he can do is stand there and take it.

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Post webms

There was a photo where some guy wearing a medieval helmet was covered up in a blanket with one of those anime pillows, anyone got it?

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Someone please carry my twink ass through Dancer.

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>>153948406

There's some delay. For example in this webm you can see a ghost with a great club in the end, that's the havel cosplay. Sometimes you can even see the replay of your kill / you dying after returning to your world if I remember correctly.

>>153949043
You have to earn it, trash.

>can summon Sif for manus
does this mean that doggo is undead? only undead use soapstones, because normies don't have their own pocket universes

>>153949043
Earn it faggot, i've done it with a +1 raw plow

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Started my first run today, 70% blind.

Wish me luck guise.

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post underrated bosses

MWN has a seriously cool design and a spooky second phase

>>153949043
>can't beat a boss
>waaah /dsg/ carry me pls
twinks, everybody

>>153949065
>Sometimes you can even see the replay of your kill / you dying after returning to your world if I remember correctly.
You're right, though that's usually if the activity in the area is super low.
>Gravelording somewhere
>Kill someone with GLGSD
>Bloodstain and phantom of the kill/guy getting launched into the air appears a few moments later.

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>>153948824

>ENB's stream quality
lmao

>>153948406
I think the full-color ones near bonfires are real-time. the white ones aren't though

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>>153948824

>>153949043
PC or PS4?

>>153949335
No one cares, Markus.