/qsg/ - Quest Thread General

>>151224
>useful
Yes.
>could have only /tg/?
Sure, we could do that. It's how things were before.

But we've evolved past the need for could have been's.

>>151224
Would it have killed you to wait until the last one hit page 10? This is a slow board for goddammit.

>>151266
Bump limit, bitch.

>>151224
>>QM question:
>Are you satisfied with the choices of players in your quest?
for the most part yes.

>>Player question:
>Did you think the QM is a good anon?
Uhh.. Sure?

>>Everyone question:
>Did you think that board is useful
Yeah for me to throw all my ideas to a wall and see if it sticks. I found this board a few weeks back and I fell in love with the idea of having a anonymous story-driven board for all the write fags out there.

>or could have only /tg/?
Sure? but I feel like /tg/ had an established rule set and many quests wouldn't of been able to flourish like they have here.

Also I still haven't been added to the directory.
https://twitter.com/Kov_QM

Also I need a player to break a tie for a vote. Thread basically just started.
>>150450
Shameless advertising.

>>151271
And? That thread still has like 2 days on it's lifespan.

Ah who cares, it's not liked we bumped off anything important. Most of the board is trash.

>>151291
I dont are OP for other threads, so i dont now about it.

Anyway, added and if have more links, i will add.

http://pastebin.com/w4b5BmNZ

>>151327
I'm very confused in what you said.

>>151351
OP might have took English as a second or third language, or he might be one of those underage illiterates that the American school system churns out every once in a while

>>151382
First option.

>>151396
I saw >>151380 when my post went through, but your correction is appreciated.

>>151380
Lol, sorry man.
>>151396
Oh then that's perfectly acceptable. From the previous posts I would be very convinced you were a native speaker.

>>151433
I'm still not convinced you're a native speaker.

>>151294
personally, I'd wait until about page 7.

>>151445
why so?

>>151445
I'm not entirely convinced that the people posting on 4chan are not complete figments of my imagination, but that's just my own crazy talking.

>>151469
I like to squeeze as much out of a general when I can. Which means that I am of the "Let's ride the thread its death" crowd.

>>151488
Something about the way you weave words together in the formation of your sentences.

I'd peg you as one of those nordic fuckers.

>>151508
That's pretty cool. What is it?

>>151508
You would probably get a better reception for sheets here >>147193
.>>151526
It's a civ game tracker.

>>151532
I know, I'm just making a joke because he posted it without context.

>>151521
100% Usa.

In other news, Royce has managed to find himself on a hive of scum and villainy. Pt3 ahoy!

>>151486
>>151486
>>151486

Um, I kind of asked this three times over in the last thread, but could you add me to the QM directory?
It's @haremhorn
Thank you. =w=

>>151826
I don't think I was added to the directory either It doesn't show as if I was listed within the directory. He said he added me but I'm unsure to what exactly.

>>151845
I'm assuming Op is a he.

I'm also in dire need of players.
>>150450

>>151829
/qst/. It's the only thing ITT I care about.
>>151837
>/qsg/ by the way fucker, not /qst/
That was in reference to the anon that said: >>151294
>Most of the board is trash.

/qsg/ itself doesn't really have any kind of central guiding dynamic that would make it shit or not. /qsg/ is free to be shit as far as I'm concerned.
>>151845
I think they added you to the pastebin, which is...

We can pretty much delete this thread and go back to the last one. OP is clearly incompetent.

>>151867
>/qsg/ is free to be shit as far as I'm concerned.

And yet you freak out over a offhand /pol/ joke. You seem pretty damn concerned anon.

And most of the board is trash currently. Bunch of abandoned 'wat do?' threads at the bottom.

>>151867
>Insults the OP
>Triggered by benign political humor
>Doesn't care about /qsg/ yet complains about what goes on it while insulting others for not caring about /qst/ apparently, proving himself a hypocrite in multiple ways
>Makes garbage posts that are decidedly not funny

That's it, I'm a #cruzmissile now.

Rolled 5, 6, 5, 2 = 18 (4d9)

test

>>151909
>seem pretty damn concerned
Yes. /qsg/ is the central discussion node that the rest of /qst/ lacks. It's the source of the budding /qst/ board culture. The precedents set in these threads will subtly influence /qst/ as is progresses.

I just wanted to nip the /pol/bug in the bud. It's not going to make this place any comfier.
>>151919
/qsg/ isn't /qst/, but the two are linked and related. /qsg/ is relatively irrelevant to /qst/ at large, but its role isn't zero influence.

>>151954
>nip the /pol/bug in the bud.

That metaphor isn't even internally consistent.

>>151954
Be consistent, for fucks sake.

>>151867
>OP is clearly incompetent.
That is kind of uncalled for desu. There is no reason to really insult OP.

If you post this here
> /qsg/ is free to be shit

Then post this:
>>151954
>two are linked and related
I think you have a problem with keeping up with your own discussion. Contradictions are terrible.

>>151968
This.

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so whatever happened to Yuri Quest

>>151954
Do you even know what you are typing half the time?

You said you didn't care about /qsg/ but now say you do.

Christ I think I'm talking to a child.

>>151967
>>151968
>>151975
>consistency
I'm not sure why, of all boards, on a quest board, you care about consistency, of all things.

It's like you have no appreciation for flying by the seat of your pants.

>>151994
>no appreciation for flying by the seat of your pants

It's because when you stir shit you have to at least try to keep stirring the shit the same way unless you want it to start to stick to the spoon.

>>151994
If I didn't care about consistency, I'd have participated in Republic Commando while it was still running.

Ooh! Zing!

>>152010
A good way to keep /qtg/, sorry /qsg/, from being cancer is to limit when the thread is up on the board. There's a nice Friday to Sunday slot open that we can use, probably call it /qsg/ Weekend or something like that.

>>152018
Not at all. The drama that happens in /qsg/ is all but ignored the moment it's done. /qsg/ goes on, QMs keep advertising their quests, newbies ask about the board limits, and /qst/ lives. Basically, /qsg/ is the entire board's place to post their pent up urge to shitpost. It's like a black hole for everything this board doesn't need. It's beautiful, really.
>>152019
Exactly. I knew you'd understand. Eventually.

>>152042
That's actually a pretty decent idea. A weekly thread would sort of force people to cohere to some semblance of a schedule.

Basic Advice for (New) QMs:
>Read other quests. Learn from their mistakes.
>Use prompts. Don't remove prompts unless your players are creative with write-ins or they'll stop posting.
>Only give options you want to write. Yes, they will pick the joke and demand you run with it.
>Use a majority vote. Don't use last number of their post or highest roll to decide which option is picked.
>Rolling goes after the option is locked in. Players otherwise choose the best option that can't fail.
>Read your update out loud before you post it. Don't spend hours editing your update because of this.
>Chargen kills quests. Usually. Hide it or remove it until you git gud.
>Never demand your players name anything. They either disappear or post the worst suggestions.
>Don't feed the trolls. Shut down their stupid write-ins before they sink your quest.
>Don't meta-talk during the thread. Save anything not about clarifying the vote until the session's done.
>Don't fear failure. Experience helps more than any guide. Don't get too attached to your premises.
>Don't be afraid to stop. If you're not having fun, don't force yourself. Tell your players and try a different idea.
>Make a Twitter so people know when you're running; so your quest doesn't fizzle out for lack of votes. Link it at the start (and end) of your thread. Give at least several hours notice before running. Use UTC for times; not everyone lives in America.
>Don't be afraid to ask for advice in the IRCs/Discord. In there, you know who's giving the advice.
>Don't write in the 4chan reply window; you'll lose an update someday. Use a word processor that autosaves and back up your previous updates with a private pastebin or file upload.

>>152055
It was the only way to keep the community from stagnating back on /tg/ and it kept the anti-questfags from shitting up the 24/7 general that we used to have.

>>152055
>ignored the moment it's done.
Why are you so intent on stopping this then? If you seem to have no worry of /qsg/'s future then why try to convince those who have fun to stop?

>>152152
Beautiful post. Should be saved.

>>152152
>>Read other quests. Learn from their mistakes.
Other quests are a mistake.
>>Use prompts. Don't remove prompts unless your players are creative with write-ins or they'll stop posting.
Prompts are railroading.
>>Use a majority vote. Don't use last number of their post or highest roll to decide which option is picked.
Tyranny of the majority is a thing.

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>>152201
Here you go.

>>152215
Get out of here.

>>152201
It's from the Discord channel's topic: http://pastebin.com/vRzRFfe4

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>>152215

>>152152
Great stuff

>>152226
Thank you. I will post this when anyone asks about QMing.

>>152215
Nice b8

>>152152
Nearly perfect.

>Player question
I feel like QMs always sound a little conceited or arrogant, but that may just be my hardwired dislike for trips. Can't be a good anon if you're not anon anymore, after all.

QMs are pretty cool people in general, though.

>>152055
>>152153
People will shitpost whenever they feel like it. Just because you set the /qsg/ to the weekends, doesn't mean the shitposters will start respect the board or thread any more to not post bait.

If we limit the time of /qsg/ to just the weekend, it'll only be a detriment to the people who actually need a place - the only place on /qsg/ - to ask for advice.


Also, how ready is everyone for the influx of college-student-summerfag-QMs that are going to be coming in about a month?

If your thread has gone 20 min without a reply, is that rip thread?

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>>152305
>Also, how ready is everyone for the influx of college-student-summerfag-QMs that are going to be coming in about a month?
I don't really know, considering I'm probably going to be among them.

Granted, it's just that this board was formed a month before semester's end and its existence got me thinking about running something, so it just lined up more than anything. I probably would've been able to run something easily around my class schedule.

I'm the guy from like 3 threads ago who had interest in a JoJo quest with an original cast, for the record. I'm almost done filling out my characterization bible for major characters, and then all I want to do is put together a simple combat system (since it's JoJo I'd prefer it to be free-form) and come up with a few more Stand User Of The Week-style stands.

>>152152
Thank you! =w=

>>152365
On /tg/? Eh I'd give it 30. Then yeah, pack it up.

On here? Hell if I know.

>>152365
I had to wait an hour a few times, no problem. As long as people reply, you still have a chance at reviving it.

>>152365
I've actually had several hours between post and player input; my threads stretch the upper bound of how long a session is, though.

If there was a lot of people posting in a spurt, just give it some time. Do keep note of what your options were, and see if maybe it was a little off putting a set of choices. I wait for replies by fiddling with other stuff, and just check back to the thread occasionally.

>>152389
I hope you have some idea on how to direct the player to some goal. That Jojo quest a while back was way too open ended.

>>152153
That's kind of what I figured. Getting your own board is pretty much winning, so it's the perfect excuse to throw off/grow past the cult mentality. Should be smooth sailing here on out.
>>152215
'zactly.
>>152226
"QM master race" is an obsolete cult meme. Not everyone's going to be on board with constantly snubbing potential players.

>>152365
Sorry man, I thought I had posted that but it turns out I forgot to verify and push the post button.

Fuck snakes.

>>152365
link your quest here if you want.

>>152419
It doesn't really feel like we won out to be honest.

>>152365
Having the vote timer be from x minutes after the first vote can cut down on your anxiety of waiting for the players to know you are running a quest/have posted an update. Maybe not by much, but patience is fucking difficult at times.

>>152409
I have a plot direction planned out. The main crew is working for the Speedwagon Foundation, which points them in various directions for missions which make up arcs of various lengths. I also have a clear villain in mind, and the nature of their crimes are going to be touched on by the backgrounds and personalities of every major character.

I could dump a quick synopsis here if anyone's interested in the premise.

>>152465
Dump it.

>>152465
Nice. When are you doing this quest?

>>152451
>doesn't really feel like we won
You seriously did. Having a board made is the goal of literally every general thread. It's just that it isn't always what you'd hoped it would be. I'm sorry to say that you'll never get back the feel you had for /qtg/ back when it was on /tg/, but you've did help give birth to something ....... that might some day become ....... not shit.

The battle against shit quality isn't over and it might never be over or it might not even be a battle you can win, but your existence is no longer under any real threat. You have the site-sponsored right to exist, so use it. I'm just the first in a long line of newfags that will feed your growth. You're the only ones that can really decide if that growth is cancer or not.

It's not always gonna be pretty, but that's is what it means to have a board.

>>152465
Do it!

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>>152476
Without spoiling anything major:
>The year is 1976
>MC is Joshua J. O'Malley, a second-generation Irish Immigrant and young NYPD Officer fresh out of the academy who's had a weird spirit for a few years now that he's never mentioned to anyone
>Joshua is a little high-strung and caught up with the concept of "Justice" and serving it, his veteran partner urges him to relax more
>One day, a bank robbery occurs, followed by a large explosion at the site; it's a stand user robbing the place
>This encounter, and Joshua's first use of his stand in combat, leads to the Speedwagon Foundation recruiting him, along with various other stand users in the public sector, into a task force to combat a drug smuggling ring/cartel that has employed stand users
>various major characters in the task force include a firefighter, an FBI Agent, an army vet, a hot shot Air Force Pilot, a high-ranking member of a SWAT team, etc.
>Most of the main cast has stands named after songs by The Police
I called it JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Quest: Justice Vice

>>152483
Probably once I'm confident in my materials/system, create a twitter, and have a general sense of when I'll be free this Summer. Maybe once I get a kind drawfriend to do a handful of character art pieces.

>>152541
>goal of literally every general thread
That completely misinterprets the situation

>>>/qa/

>>152572
I think this thread has already established that WLS's opinions aren't worth much.

>>152572
Was talking about /tg/'s /qtg/, not /qsg/.

>>152581
>opinions
>worth much
This is not unique to me.

>>152365
longest wait i've dealt with is about 40mins for first reply, 20mins aint jack.

And really the only reason i had to wait that long is because my workday ends right when this board is at its slowest. My shift starts right when this /qst starts getting active.
Sometimes its suffering, but i know i have a good number of lurkers during my workdays. Hopefully this thursday night they can get in on a session.

>>152305
>Also, how ready is everyone for the influx of college-student-summerfag-QMs that are going to be coming in about a month?
>summerfags
Can we stop this meme?
Work/school/life has never stopped anyone from going on 4chan/the internet when they should be spending their time being productive.

>>152607
Running a quest takes more effort than shitposting.

>>152641
Huh, so I was accurate with the assessment that that was you.

Make sure to conclude the run in the actual thread though.

Might want to do that first, in fact. Next time.

>>152623
So? You've done nothing to disprove my point. You'd be stupid to think that summer vacation will create an explosion of anons who were responsible enough to focus on their studies and not spend effort elsewhere.

>>152652
>spend effort
Shitposting doesn't take effort.

>>152651
I appreciate the advice; thanks for playing.

>>152666
Assuming they will be shitposting like you are.

>>152666
You'd be surprised at the lengths some shitposters will go to. Granted they can't really keep it up for long, but I give them a C- for effort.

>tfw a month+ without your favorite quest

its dead r-right?

>>152562
Do it man.

>>152700
They're waiting until they have free time.

When school's out.

>>152690
>You'd be surprised at the lengths some shitposters will go to.

D. Report him to Cooler

>>152684
I think I learned from some of my mistakes in my Harry Potter dungeoncrawler quest

>>152713
What were your mistakes in that one?

Other than the fact that that crossover was a ridiculous concept.

>>152152

I have one to add, actually.

Never let your players be safe.

What does 'safe' mean? It means - Never let your players turtle up. Never give them a place they can be absolutely secure. Quests live and die on momentum, and momentum means that the PCs must keep multiple plates spinning in the air at the same time.

Beware the endless passive powerlevelling loop, as seen in so much manga and Light Novels: Don't let the player train until he gets good, or spend weeks researching that single perfect spell or power. If he can do that, he's encouraged not to do anything except spend all that time crafting the perfect solution.

I also highly advise against any resource that renews itself over time, because it encourages the player to 'camp' on a single location to constantly harvest the benefits. Everything in a quest should encourage a player to keep going, to keep moving, like a shark in a hunger frenzy: If he stops, he dies.

Why do I advise this? Well, it's also for the QM's sake. If the PC doesn't do anything, the QM gets bored, and when you get bored, you stop running a Quest. I've been able to sustain interest in my Quest by ensuring that things continue to happen: After each session, I mark how the plans of the NPCs are progressing up to the point the PC slams into them. If things weren't building towards some kind of catastrophe, if there was no time pressure, I'd have been bored a long time ago.

That's the best advice I can give, really. Everything should be fluid and shifting. Make sure that your players have no zone of safety they can hide in, and this doesn't just refer to combat or resources - It refers to relationships, allies, and the progression of the plot itself. The PC should be encouraged to get out and do things, or the story bogs down.

In my Quest, I've done this by ensuring that the entire economy is death-focused. You only gain XP, really, by killing other NPCs. Hunting 'mobs' has greatly diminishing returns, barring the powerful and unique creatures that are boss fights in their own regard. The best resources also mostly come from other people (Sort of how Soulforging was carried out in Wraith: The Oblivion) or are artifacts that require adventure, interaction and combat to acquire. (At which point the PC is doing something anyway.)

If not for that, I would have thrown in the towel years ago.

>>152705
but my qm's reportedly a semi-functioning Adult!

>>152726
>semi-functioning
Wait until they're done giving lectures.

To their students.

>>152720
Make smaller, more focused dungeons
Write faster
And have a less ridiculous premise

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>>152731

>>152723
Joker Quest, is that you?

>>152723
Excellent advice. Definitely something to consider for /tg/ style quests.

Guys, I think we should enstablish that lWLSd/Gg is actual cancer. Don't talk to it, it will try to talk back with SJW shit and complete incompetence within their own argument. Do not entice it to have a reason to talk. just stop. it isn't real. ignore it.

>>152741
I'd consider your offer if you weren't the faggot that tried to bring /pol/ "humor" to my /qst/.
>>152759
'zactly. IDs help with that. So long as nobody has anything decent to say to me, we're all better off if nobody tries.

>>152759
>>152777
And to add on to that, I literally said this earlier: >>152541
>You're the only ones that can really decide if that growth is cancer or not.

Literally, it's your decision to make. You have more experience with 4chan-based-quests than I do. So long as you're actually making an effort to distinguish cancer from legitimate growth, I'll never have anything to complain about.

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To QM or to not QM, that is the question.

>>153138
Just do it!

i always wanted to run a sunless sea quest where we and our zailors explore the horrors of the zee....

fuck

>>153296
AND NOW YOU MUST.

>>152723
>>152751

Terrible advice.

>>153312
How so?

>>153301
i really don't know man....may be?

spit ball with me on this one. should we stick to the source material? or what

>>151224
>QM question:
I think they tend to be a bit too risk-averse, which is something I'm trying to work on by making the riskier options more obviously worth the risk. But it's hard to get that type of player to bite.
>Player question:
What does that even mean.
>Everyone question yes, i invented that
If this board really exists for the sake of the literal >what-do
quests and one-and-done drawquests, then it has a point: because those things couldn't and probably shouldn't survive on /tg/. But for already-established, "author-driven collaborative storytelling", and for authors who want to try and establish something, /tg/ was and currently still is fine under the pre-/qst/ arrangement.

/qst/ wasn't something I wanted, it's not something "we" needed, and it's not something I've embraced aside from the odd shitpost in /qsg/.

>that dead thread

This one should be obvious, but how does everyone like tutorials? I mean, not the hand-holding variety that say do this do that no don't go there, but laid out in a manner where the MCs basic abilities are explained over the course of their exploration.

In the quests I've read, the players don't seem to consider all the options available, favoring only the prompts over write-ins, or when they do write-in, they fall back to the same memetic responses.

I'm not saying that's an inherently bad or wrong thing to do, especially if the character has a ton of abilities/items. I just would like to know if there's a good way to ingrain at least the basics so the players know what they are capable of, to make the most of what they have.

Obviously, most anons/names here follow multiple quests, so I may just be answering my own question on that one.

>>153702
A "tutorial" or a showcase of the protagonist's abilities/equipment often goes hand in hand with the "show, don't tell" rule, so go for it.

>>153702
definitely a show, don't tell thing. Having it explained to you as if it's the first time for the MC to do it does not inspire confidence in its effectiveness.

>>151224
>QM question:
NO.
The write-ins are very nice to!

>Akun going with enforced registration
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO TITS GOD DAMNIT

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>>153803
>Akun going with enforced registration
It was bound to happen.

I think it's now safe to say that the panic over /qst/'s very existence was overblown and the board is doing fine without /tg/'s supposed "traffic" of faggots who repost the same images in the same DnD and Warhammer topics all day.

>>153826
Safe to say it, sure, but that doesn't necessarily make it true.

>>153826
>I think it's now safe to say that /qst/'s very existence was completely unnecessary and quests were doing fine with /tg/'s supposed "traffic" of faggots who repost the same images in the same DnD and Warhammer topics all day as that traffic is what brought in new players.

FTFY

>>153826
Go ahead, start a new quest without a previous userbase.

>>153839
Just because you're a shitty writer and make a boring quest with a boring setting and a cast of boring characters doesn't mean the quest board is an abject failure, hope this helps

>>153845
This doesn't have anything to do with what I said, though.

>>153845
Is that why you can't make a new quest? Are you projecting your faults onto him?

Or are you just shitposting?

>>153845
There's no need to resort to insults. At least try to argue your point in a civil manner.

>>153845
>>153826

Has there been a single Quest that has really taken off here? All of them are dead, half-dead, or shitty. Even discussion has completely died down. Face it, this board is basically living death. It's a ghetto.

>>153943
A few. Melancholic, Dark Gate, and a few others. But like that's less than 10% of a 150 thread board.

Just like how it was on /tg/.

>>153943
Dark Gate Academy, maybe.

>>153943
Melancholic, Dark Gate Academy, Jara, Genocide, and GreenText seem to have taken off quite well.

>>153951

They're insanely slow-moving. That's another time I sincerely don't like. I've speed-read through them (personal opinion) and I honestly don't think they're any good.

>>153955
Well quest quality got thoroughly reset once this board came up. All that survival of the fittest on /tg/ that accumulated for years vanished.

>>153960

Basically this, yeah. I'm surprised that the Quests here are quite this bad. There's no rhyme, no reason, very little structure.

>>153943
>They're insanely slow-moving
I wanted to ask about this myself, but since you brought it up I'd like to add to issue. What do people generally prefer, a burst of updates in daily sessions or updates throughout the day?

In the quest I'm currently running, I tend to make 4-5 updates in a 4~ hour session. That might be a bit slow compared to some other quests, but I do like to spend some time on world building and drawing.

I currently have around 2-3 regular players and it's alright. I don't know if slower updates are off-putting to a lot of people, so I'm curious what you guys think about the topic.

>>153971

Frankly, I prefer to set aside time to run a long session properly.

>>153971
>I tend to make 4-5 updates in a 4~ hour session
That's extremely slow imho. When I ran on /tg/ I could cram in a new update every 20-30 minutes (voting time excluded) over the course of a 8-10 hour session.

>>153971
It's hard to say cause this new board changes all the rules that we had to do on /tg/.

On /tg/ 4-5 updates in a 4~ hour session wouldn't be good. Your threads would be short and not much would get done since by the time you want to come back to it, it would have fallen off the board since that board actually has traffic.

On here though you can get away with it and the slowness of this board might be easier for QMs that couldn't hack it on /tg/'s speed.

Anyways to answer your question, as a player, I would rather have faster QMs that can set aside 6-8 hours for their quest.

>>153971
As a guy who runs one of the quests mentioned above, I'll just say how I tend to do things. I usually run long sessions, with a new update every 20-40 minutes, dependant on the word length of the update and the time it takes for a decisive vote to be reached between player.

Last night's session was particularly long, lasting 12 hours with 27 updates. I usually run 2-3 hours less than that.

Of course, I don't run a drawquest, and the times between updates would obviously be much slower if I did.

>>153977
What kind of quest? What issues do you face most of the time?

>>153999
>I could cram in a new update every 20-30 minutes (voting time excluded) over the course of a 8-10 hour session
That's pretty impressive. I'm new to the whole questing business, so it might be my inexperience, but how do you manage to pump out updates so fast? Any "secret techniques" or does it come with practice?

>>154002
>Your threads would be short and not much would get done since by the time you want to come back to it
So far I've ran 5 sessions, I've started last week. You're right on short threads, I've barely passed the 100 post mark.

>>154005
>Of course, I don't run a drawquest, and the times between updates would obviously be much slower if I did

I draw between 1-2 panels to visualize key moments in a scene, and fill in the gaps with some text in the post. I want both of the element to be at least decent in quality, which takes around 20-40 minutes depending on how detailed/complex I want the following scenes to be.

Though I witnessed a few quests that have 2-3 updates through the day, "Legend of Peter Titmouse" comes to mind, and I noticed there was a ton of people participating, around 80 to 100 IPs. So it makes me think that if you have a decent amount of regulars in your audience, maybe the time format doesn't really matter that much in the end. The bigger problem would be acquiring and up-keeping a recurring audience in the first place.

>>154025

Mostly having to work, and wanting a day off to myself. I used to run up to twelve hours in a single shot. Alas, those halycon days are gone.

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>>154025
>but how do you manage to pump out updates so fast? Any "secret techniques" or does it come with practice?
Just practice. Either you figure out how to write an update with a light amount of text that is still a fleshed out enough to be an update or you eventually become fast enough to write a word heavy update in a short amount of time.

My trick (and maybe others' as well) was that I usually spent the 10-12 minutes my players voted on a choice to figure out what should and could happen next for every prompt available so I had several skeleton-updates in mind to flesh out the one chosen within 20-30 minutes of pure writing.

Star Wars quest when?
Hogwarts quest when?
X-men quest when?
Avatar quest when?

>>154080
When you run it x4

>>154080
>Star Wars quest when?
All the decent ones died or went on hiatus from what I know.
Sith Apprentice, Republic Commando, Jedi Apprentice Quest all died. AT-TE and the smuggler quest Schteel ran went on hiatus if I'm not wrong. The Inquisitor quests' QM is waiting for its co-QM to be free to run his.
>Hogwarts quest when?
Used to be one on /tg/. Don't know what happened to it.
>X-men quest when?
When you run it.
>Avatar quest when?
The only one I know of played out like 200-300 years after the first avatar and the MC died fighting his dad due to bad rolls. The shitposting and crying broke the quest. When the QM tried to retcon the death, not even a third of the playerbase came back.

>>154086
but i am a shit writer that only has a few ideas for each

>>154107
Brainstorm them with us and they might get picked up by someone good or they become good enough to motivate you to git gud.

>>154113
Alright well I've more ideas for the Star Wars one so I guess I'll start with that.
Set in the Old Republic but well after Darth Bane's time (so no Sith), the Jedi are at the height of their power with Temples all over the galaxy and numbers in the hundreds of thousands, and while the Sith are no more, there are a few known Dark Jedi running around. The Galaxy is at a relatively good place with a few exceptions (Hutt Space, Zygerrian Slave Empire, and a few independent systems and planets thrown in). The Republic is a bit smaller at this time, consisting of most of the Core Worlds and some in the Mid Rim. The rest of the known Galaxy is divided up between the Hutts and the ZSE on the Outer Rim and the Wilds (independent systems and planets) covering the rest of the Mid and Outer Rim.
The PC would be a new Jedi Apprentice joining there Master on a planet in the Wilds. The Master is an adviser to the ruler of the system.
And that's pretty much all I have. Not sure where I want the plot to go, whether it be a civil war breaks out in the system or it being near the Hutt/ZSE boarder and afraid of getting caught up in the brewing war or something smaller in scale like taking down the current crime ring that is reeking havoc on the system.

>>153713
>>153737
Sweet. Thanks guys.

>>150450
Alright, I'm back and alive.

>>154181
The Hogwarts one is one I'd much rather be a player in as most of my ideas are for the PC, other than it being set in modern time
American Muggle born, moved to England the summer before the school year started
Obsessed with music and has 3 ipods full of all kinds
I like the idea of them finding out that tech doesn't work right at Hogwarts and they will have to hunt down the least magical spots just to listen to music and introducing all the wizard born to different types of muggle music and maybe starting a band or something

>>154242
Bandit quest is updating!

>>154241
X-men would be the easiest as I've read a ton of the comics. It would be set in a world similar to Evolution (or maybe just in that worlds near future) where Mutants are the only super group in town. The PC would be a new student at Xavier's and the plot would just be general X-men stuff adapted to fit this world.

>>154256
Avatar would actually be Republic City Quest and set sometime after Aang dies but before Korra is found/grows up.
The PC could be anyone from a new immigrant, a seasoned pro bender player, to an underground fighter. It doesn't really matter.
The real point is the setting, I feel Legend of Korra really missed out on exploring Republic City. It had such a cool Noir Hong Kong vibe going for it. The PC would deal with corruption, gang violence, and other such things.

>>153964
> I'm surprised that the Quests here are quite this bad.

Here's a hot take for you: most people who want to run quests suck shit at writing regular stories, much less anything that takes the input of people outside of themselves and doing so within a reasonable time frame. You aren't going to see an explosive growth of "popular quests" around here not merely because of the fact that this is /qst/, but because this is fucking 4chan and good writers and QMs are as much a needle in a haystack as you can expect anywhere else on the internet.

>>154287
I could definitely enjoy a Pro Bending Quest that focuses on the relationships within the team, training your element and discover or create new techniques for it. The aim is to reach the very top of the pro bending scene. Some gang/corruption and debt problems that one of them is involved with could go out over their performance in tournaments is also a possibility etc.

>>154256
>X-Men Quest
Well it's not about the X-Men in particular here is a very popular and well written Mutant Quest: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Homeless%20Mutant%20Quest

Go nuts, it's a ride.

>>153999
>voting time excluded
Then that's really not all that impressive. This board isn't nearly as active or as fast as /tg/ would have been before the split.
Voting time is what takes up the bulk of 90% of these slow threads. the other 10% are packed full of players with just a slow writing QM's. Even writing at 40 WPM is enough to hit character limit in all of 15 minutes.

My personal problem is that i have a job working 12 hour shifts, leaving little time after work for a solid session unless i want to go to work with 4 hours of sleep the next day. But thats besides the point. There's a lot of variables at play.

>>154025
Either you're slow to come up with ideas, or you're slow to write them down. Practice is the only thing that can fill either of those weak points. Occasionally if you're still in the voting period and you have a majority your votes already locked in, you can pre write a little.

>>154288
basically this. Secondly, every thread in /qst/ doesn't NEED to be composed of fantastic writing. Not everyone shares your tastes.

>>154376
>Then that's really not all that impressive.
Never said it was, but a new update every 30 or 40 minutes after the last update, which is with the 10 minutes voting time included, over 8-10 hours is a helluva lot faster than the majority of the /qst/ quests. It doesn't get much faster than that without a drop in quality.

>>154252
Would love some help fixing up this thread/doing a test run.

trying to set up a decent template for a Multi-Character quest, the kind where individuals each control their own character etc.

Pretty much a cluttered shit hole of an image at the moment, but it will improve.

>>154387
True enough.
I wish my quests were active enough to call it after a 10 minute vote to be completely honest.
With my work, my fanbase is pretty split across all timezones and hours of the day.

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>>154398
>Multi-Character quest, the kind where individuals each control their own character
Last I checked, that's not a quest.

>>154409
Quest or not, it's there and the only people who can stop it are the mods

>>154240
>>>150450
>Alright, I'm back and alive.
Guys I need some players bad. Been almost an hour since last post.

>>154409
> In a quest there is a single author who controls the plot of the story and who drives the creative process. They can choose to take suggestions from other posters, or not, at their sole discretion. Quests can be text-based, image-based, or a combination of the two.

> In a quest there is a single author who controls the plot of the story and who drives the creative process.

Check

>They can choose to take suggestions from other posters, or not, at their sole discretion.

Check

>Quests can be text-based, image-based, or a combination of the two.

Check

>>154409
And what exactly is wrong with a quest with multiple characters as long as the OP controls the narrative?

Oh right you're just being a salty bitch for no reason

>>154448
Are we really going to have this argument every general?

>>154456
Better here than in the quests themselves. Lighten up.
This is still 4chan after all.

>>154456
I'd suppose so.

>>154464
Let's have a containment board for all non-quests

>>154474
sounds like trash.

>>154417
True.

>>154436
>>154448
Not a quest. A quest is where anyone can jump in and participate at any time while the author/QM drives the plot forward with their help. Restricting it to limited slots available and different characters solely controlled by one player/ID is NOT a quest. That's a forum RP or something more akin to D&D.
Please look up the difference before trying to resort to insults instead of valid arguments.

What's a good waiting window for replies?

>>154498
30-40 minutes if you're just starting out. 10-20 recommended, 5-10 if you're controlling a very active quest.

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>>154486
>That's a forum RP

>>154486
Where did I insult anyone...?

And no, a quest is a collaborative story, PC's can interact or not and creative a cohesive storyline.

Your argument is like say a narrative can only follow one entity and nothing else, I;E Game of Thrones isn't considered a story but a collection of stories with no relation

The stories WILL have relation, ergo by default it is a narrative created with input by each character.

And where did you get limits from? I only said I would create a limit if too many players for me to keep track of showed up. Which I highly doubt it will ever reach that point as /qst/ is so slow compared to /tg/

>>154520 Not you.

>>154448
/\ Him.

>>154520
A quest is a collaborative story, true, but not in the sense that you think; it's how a QM and an unlimited amount of anons (based on the amount of players and not limited to the slots taken/available) help each other write a story through the eyes of one character or several, BUT the keypoint is that there's not a single anon that controls a single character. Everyone controls the same character with their right to vote for what said character should say/do next.

That's not what you are describing. It's not a quest, it's forum RP.

>>154547
There actually are multi-PC quests with each player controlling a single character, those are called skirmish quests.

Most of them are on /tg/ right now, but I think the QMs of it actually do allow players to jump in with their own characters as needed.

Granted, the gameplay makes it even more niche than quests already are, but people do join and those kinds of quests do exist.

>>154498
20 minutes is pretty solid.
Really it just depends on how quickly you get responses, and knowing how many active posters you have during a session.

>>154547
But why can't a quest be a collaborative story based on the world rather than the individuals in said world, you aren't answering that. That makes no sense limiting the scope to a single entity unless you want every quest to follow the EXACT same format.

In the way mine will operate, I fit every criteria you propose.

> QM and unlimited amount of anons help eachother write a story through one character or several

This happens, not every anon can affect the actions of each individual actor, but they can shape the overall state of the narrative (world) by interacting with it. Instead of voting for a linear action, they "vote" by making their own moves and the resulting conclusion is what happens when you combine all of those actions.

Ergo,
>Everyone controls the same character with their right to vote for what said character should say/do next.

I accomplish this by focusing on the WORLD as the entity of the quest, rather than the journey of a single character in said world.

You're being nitpicky for no reason. I don't get why everyone seems so against these being considered as 'quests' just because it takes a different approach from the tired old "X character is Y, choose an action"

>>154557
>There actually are multi-PC quests with each player controlling a single character, those are called skirmish quests.
Again, those aren't quests like I've argued. They are forum RP threads at best.

>>154570
>But why can't a quest be a collaborative story based on the world rather than the individuals in said world, you aren't answering that.
I already did. It's not the how quests have always worked and how their format is.
>the tired old "X character is Y, choose an action"
You call it "tired", most others would call it a true and tested format that has succeeded where all else have failed. What you are essentially proposing is running a forum RP thread and calling it a "quest" when it's not. You're the one nitpicking here, not me though.

>>154570
>But why can't a quest be a collaborative story based on the world rather than the individuals in said world, you aren't answering that.
Because that simply isn't a Quest. It's not a matter of nitpicking, but mixing up definitions. That's it.

>>154570
>X character is Y, choose an action
That's a fundamental part of what makes a quest. It's like calling a game where you just go from area to area a sandbox game. What you're proposing fits the forum RP definition better than a quest.

Which, considering boards can get filled up with stuff that don't fit their original definitions, are probably gonna wind up on /qst/. But don't call them quests.

Oy QTG, Where do you believe romance belongs best in a quest?

>>154594
>>154595
>>154603


Well, guess this is decided by the community then. I'll keep running the threads in /qst/ and won't post in qsg, sorry for the inconvenience.

>>154594
Barely even RP at that. It's mostly "describe action using short sentence, maybe with a quip, a character sheet, and dice roll" for the players.

>>154607
At the very list, it shouldn't be the focus.

>>154607
After slow build up where the MC learns about the love interest through character interactions, plot revelations and stuff like that.

Or just keep it between NPCs. God knows can get waifu wars fucking intolerable and derail a thread entirely.

>>154610
Don't worry about it, Mods have already decided way back in /tg/ that it doesn't matter.

The salty bitches will remain salty bitches while they drown in their 524 threads of shittily drawn "lelrandom" quests and weird magical realm threads that they'd defend all day as amazing works of literature

>>154626
>amazing works of literature
Nothing on this board is amazing works of literature. Everyone expects quick posts of story not something that is well written. Which sucks. I'm trying to have some form of good writing within my quest and keep it interesting with other elements.

But good writing takes too long.

>>154656
> Not worried about diminished quality of quests
> Somehow worried that expanding the definition of quest will result in quest armeggedon

Fuck off with your cognitive dissonance riddled ass

>>154656
>Everyone expects quick posts of story not something that is well written
If it takes you more than two hours to write an update, you can only blame yourself when the players start getting impatient. It just means that the format is not for you and you should use Anonkun or something else.

Players can be very patient if they know that they're going to get quality stuff, but they're not going to wait if you never promise quality in the first place and have done nothing to make them think it's worth waiting for you to finish.

>>154672
>Somehow worried that expanding the definition of quest will result in quest armeggedon
It ain't about armageddon, we're just pedantic motherfuckers. It's like calling a visual novel a video game; it triggers the autism.

>>154656
Fuck Quest is an amazing work of literature.

>>154672
We don't really care about all of the zero-effort lolrandum quests here in /qsg/. The good stuff has always been a needle in a haystack to find, even on present day /tg/.

>>154697
I'd also venture to say that BFQ is right up there with New York Time's best sellers.

>>154672
>expanding the definition of quest
When was this? If you got this idea from me then I assure you that is not my belief.

>>154684
>more than two hours
Where? Most of my post do not exceed the 30 min mark. If you are talking about my most recent post with the guy speculating and my post is because I woke up. I wonder what you mean by this.

>>154693
>It's like calling a visual novel a video game; it triggers the autism.
Only people who have never actually played VNs get triggered by that.

>>154672
You seem extremely hostile and angry for a person who calls others "salty bitches"...

>>154712
>Where? Most of my post do not exceed the 30 min mark.
I wasn't referring to you specifically, but QMs in general. Players are generally fine with waiting for up to two hours if they know they're going to get long and interesting updates each time. A dozen threads in and that time increases, but the playerbases ability to react to updates quickly decreases.

If you can get a regular update within 30 minutes, then I don't get your complaint about speed and writing quality. Take your time and make longer and better-written updates if you want to. You have the time.

>>154672
You're the one coming across as a salty bitch here.

Nobody's even bitching about forum rps, they're just being pedantic and making it clear that they don't fit the definition of what a Quest is.

>>154610
It's not that you shouldn't run it in /qst/ at all.

I think there's something you should be reconsidering here.

It's just, you know all those Skirmish and Risk and Adventure Guild and Builder threads, right? You know that they aren't exactly new, right? As in a couple years old, just like quests?

There are several issues that arise when any given player/character is only going to show up once in a blue moon. It takes FOREVER for anybody to get done, simply by the nature of the overhead needed for a new character to make an impact on the world. And factoring for 5+ different players takes TIME, lots of it. Builder threads commonly took 2 hours before the OP lists down literally 2-line responses for each action, half of them are basically "you fail and/or nothing of immediate worth happens".

That's why those culture civs are doing so well: they attempt to strike a balance between having just 1 character and having each and every player control a character. The QM is completely aware of how many acting factions there are, and is able to plan accordingly around a set structure.

You're saying you're trying something new, when in fact you're trying something that's never taken off without addressing the known concerns surrounding it.

>>154607
No

it is not supposed to be the main focus. otherwise, it is fine.

>>154607
Everywhere.

Fantastical coincidences, larger than life characters, a sense of adventure and-

oh, you meant the OTHER romance.

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>>155024
>oh, you meant the OTHER romance.

>>155044
>Doesn't know what a Man's Romance is.

>>155044
IIRC a romance is a story written in the romantic artistic tradition

>>154080
>Avatar quest when?
You should make it James Cameron's Na'vi: the Last Airbender.

>>154474
>>>/tg/

>>155230
lmao No.

>>152152
>Use prompts. Don't remove prompts unless your players are creative with write-ins or they'll stop posting.
You select an audience of train-lovers by forcing prompts down their throat. How do you expect them to behave free of the railroad?

>Don't meta-talk during the thread. Save anything not about clarifying the vote until the session's done.
Or actually talk with your players and pretend to be a human being having fun.

I'd add:
This isn't /a/utism. People might be interested by a concept without having read/watched every media of the franchise you're parodying. Sprinkle some background info and IC knowledge in the first posts.

>>155689
Prompts aren't railroad though, and while talking with the players can be all fine and dandy, you're slowing down the thread by not writing the next update and if you answer questions in the middle of the thread, then you're providing them with meta knowledge that some of them might or might not use.

>>155689
>train-lovers
Kek. You're only railroading if you force an option. If you present three equal options and a write-in and they choose one of those three then it is not railroading. It would be railroading if only one is obviously the correct choice.

Prompts are move of a suggestion for the players not really a DO THIS its more like, here are some possibilities and they have different results and consequences you can choose them or do something else that the QM hadn't thought about immediately after writing.

>>155689
>You select an audience of train-lovers by forcing prompts down their throat. How do you expect them to behave free of the railroad?
There's a difference between "don't remove prompts" and "do nothing but provide choices with predetermined consequences". Just because there are prompts doesn't mean players aren't allowed to make write-ins and prompts are crucial for providing direction to the players by presenting potential choices that players can use to understand what they can do at the moment and use that to form their own ideas. Other times they're good for giving players the idea of what kind of choices the QMC can take in the given situation, which lets the players get a better idea of how to roleplay him/her.

>Or actually talk with your players and pretend to be a human being having fun.
Bad fucking idea 90% of the time. It takes the players out of immersion and forces the QMC to distract himself from writing the next update to converse or give out meta knowledge that could interfere with further decision-making on the players part.
It can be useful for clarifying some things that the QMC should be able to understand but can't be stated outright, but otherwise it generally leads to dumb stuff like people requesting setting dumps, asking for meta knowledge or arguing with the QM about things they didn't like. It's just not worth the trouble.

>>155773
>Just because there are prompts doesn't mean players aren't allowed to make write-ins
You'll get 3 to 4 votes without any arguments for one of the prompts before the guy that takes the time to think and post a write-in posts, his suggestion won't be discussed and he'll stop caring after a couple tries.

>>156200
Totally unnecessary, your fast board experiences are showing. Most of the slow board generals at least wait until page 9 before a blatant bump.

>>156228
Fuket.
Also.
>welcome to /quest/
>/quest/
>the board is /qst/

>>156371
There is usually a wait of more than 1 fucking hour between discussions in this general. Listen, I am nursing a headache from eating some food that did not agree with me so I am sorry for coming across angry. You could have at least made an inquiry about something quest related in your bump to actually spark banter between anons, so I will ask you, are there any quests on /qst/ right now that you think are good for a look through and why you like them? I can at least parse broken English reasonably so I can get a good idea of what you like.

>>154456
>>154464
No. It's going to die down once the prior generation realizes that the board needs content more than it needs quality.

>>154570
>unless you want every quest to follow the EXACT same format
Some people think creativity comes from formats.

Those people are wrong.

>>148774
With the day off, Genocide quest is running a session for the peeps who normally can't make it for the crack ass of dawn sessions.
Artwork with every update, and looking to run for a good 7 hours minimum, maybe longer if activity picks up.

>>154594
>nitpicking
Minor nitpick on my part.

The topic itself is nitpicky. Engaging in it implies nitpicking on the part of each participant.
>>154595
>simply isn't a Quest
>anything I don't like isn't a quest
Entirely unhelpful.
>>154603
If it's going to be allowed either way, then trying to be picky and choosy about what makes a quest is pointless. If RP can be done well, and an author can make it work, there's no reason to complain.

>>154607

Look, I think romance in a Quest is a big thing.

See, Quests are very, very different from your traditional tabletop game or even a play-by-post RPG. For start, there's less emphasis on loot, and more on 'broad strokes' - this is because with so many people playing, the standard level-up and loot treadmill is less exciting. You have less investment in it, because it's a joint character.

But at the same time, Quests allow for more focused, individual narratives. For instance, in a standard D&D game, it's unlikely that you'll designate one guy as the hero - Everyone wants a chance to shine. So it's always a party of heroes, with each character getting equal spotlight. Interestingly, the RPG that's further from this is Exalted, where each PC is basically a superhero and the party is a superhero team-up. (Or like those crossovers where Conan meets Elric, or the Grey Mouser, and so on.)

So the big draw in a Quest is character interactions. And naturally, with character interaction comes romance.

But how should romance be done? Well, to my mind, romance should be another impetus to the plot. There's the 'safe' kind of romance that doesn't go anywhere, that's basically a comforting prize - i.e. it's an established relationship with no drama - and then there's the 'dangerous' kind that's tied into the story and forces it to progress. You love the princess, but she's going to be married off to unite the warring kingdoms. You love the swordswoman, but she's sworn to defeat the Demon King or die trying. Your lover from a past life has returned, but she's evil and cruel, warped by a thousand years of solitude - and she's holding your best friend in all the world at swordpoint.

Like everything else in a Quest, it should push the player to keep doing things, to keep moving. The least realistic - and most boring - kind of romance is the one where there's nothing exciting happening. Love is really, really *boring* except for the people involved. It's also another 'safe space' of emotional support, sort of like a crutch the PC can lean on.

You know what the most exciting part of it is? The chase. Consumnation, and everything that comes after that, is a flat line. Why do so many LNs keep a vague kind of status quo? It's not just to keep selling books, but also to keep one of the conflicts going; there's a kind of tension, a back-and-forth, that makes you wonder how it'll all play out. Ultimately, suspense is what drives Quests.

For instance, if you had a Quest that was entirely about a peaceful life with your lovely and caring wife, the QM would eventually quit out of boredom. Nothing happens on that front, and it isn't interesting. Just like everything else, it has to serve some kind of narrative purpose, something the PC can poke at or something that's coming out of alignment.

(More)

>>156653

Basically, it's an incitement to drama and adventure. It's also an important part of characterization. Nothing changes someone's personality more than being in love, and (conversely) nothing makes them more blind. It can make people do great and really stupid things.

I've personally always thought of a Quest as more of a weekly anime series than an outright RPG, so my perceptions of it are likely slanted that way, however. And the heart of every show is meaningful conflict and drama.

>>156653
>>156660
Now THIS is feedback! Thank you incredibly for this. I will do my best to make good use of it.

>>154610
>inconvenience
Nothing's getting bumped off because of an influx of shitty "RP" threads, so it's definitely not an inconvenience. It's a gripe without purpose.
>>154626
>defend all day as amazing works of literature
Nobody does this. There's a terrible lack of real criticism (constructive or otherwise) on this board.

All the saltiness and shitposting does is limit how willing people are to ask for feedback. If you want quality, you'll need to actually become a critic in a useful sense and express your gripes in a meaningful way that authors can actually take lesson from.

>>154672
>diminished quality of quests
As opposed to what? How it was on /tg/? You can't help that. Influx of newfags will always create crap quality. What makes or breaks a board is how well the oldfags can get the newfags to start making quality. On any other board, shitposting can help with that. On this board, you'll actually need to get into the habit of making well thought out replies with actual talking points. "Just follow the format" does not inspire creativity.
>>154782
I don't see any consensus about where to draw the line between the two.

>>154883
Underrated post.

Yo guys, I'm running a Samurai Jack one-off to test this board out.

Anyone want to jump in for a few hours?

>>156725
link it.

>>156731
>>156725
>>156623

>>156725
If you can't get three players on your first prompt, I can make time for it.

Local Man Visits Earth is rearin' to resume. Let's go, I have a vote up in the air and our intrepid hero's stuck on a station that wants to bury him.

>>153392
>>153392
>>153392

>>157021
I just got a 100 on a d100. Holy shit.

>>157056
Had a quest where we had four 1 on a d100 critfails in one session.

>>157056
I hope it wasn't something like Rogue Trader, where 100 is a guaranteed/critical failure

>>157063
Sounds like my luck with dice haha

Hi! I'm Lowell, and I just started my quest!
>>157119
It's fully drawn by me! Any anons willing to test it out?

>>155837
So you've never actually participated in a Quest. Good to know.

>>156608
Oh fuck off. Nobody is saying that the author can't do whatever he wants, but he shouldn't call it a Quest because that's not what it fucking is. Changing the definition of the term just because one person wants to do something that isn't a Quest on a Quest board is fucking retarded.

>>156675
>"Just follow the format" does not inspire creativity.
Nobody is saying you can't follow the format, but if you're not following the format then don't fucking misuse the name of the format. What's so damn hard to understand about this?

>>157461
>What's so damn hard to understand about this?
That salt. If nobody actually wants RP gone, then I can't imagine why anyone cares to be pedantic about what a quest is. Seems completely pointless.

>>157471
What's RP?

>>156675
>I don't see any consensus about where to draw the line between the two.
You're a troll and you should feel bad for implying it isn't clear as cristal. It's a RP when you limit which player can decide which choice. It's a quest when it can run without tripfagging or looking at IDs.

>>157573
>RP when you limit which player can decide which
Thanks. Literally all I was asking for. A little bit of clarity goes a long way.

>>157579
Not to be rude, but if you had read the discussion in its entirety you would have found this answer on your own.

>>157624
Equivocation is the opposite of consensus. Until it actually gets written explicitly, there will be people that don't/won't appreciate the difference. "Infer the exact meaning of the oldfags" doesn't work to help newfags. A little bit of clarity goes a long way here.

>>157709
My point still stands since
>It's a RP when you limit which player can decide which choice.
is the explanation you found clarity in. However, it was explained earlier as well in the discussion. Anyhow, just wanted to point out that it's often better to read through all the replies before asking questions or making statements that has already been answered or picked apart/confirmed beforehand. At least we're on the same wavelength now on what's what.

Hey guys.

I am the QM of Fate/Broken Destinies.
I don't usually shill new thread here and I won't today either.

But given that I will be on a hiatus, I decided to create a Discord channel for my players. You're welcome to join if you want to learn more about the quest so far.

https://discord.gg/011NY5v89Xnf6mSa9

Ded thread.
Ded board.

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>>157974

>>157980
Sadly.

QMs:
>Do you keep in contact with other QMs? If so, how? If not, why not?

Players:
>What makes you drop a quest that you've been following for several/many threads?

>>158005
>QM question
IRC or Discord channels found in the OP.

>>158013
Yes, but do you actually use them beyond lurking?

>>158017
Of course, otherwise I wouldn't have answered the question...

>>158005
>Player
Quest goes wildly outside of the advertised premise. Bait and Switch is okay, but if it's really NOT what I was looking for, no point in staying.
QM starts running in completely incompatible timezones before I get the chance to get invested.
I've long since reduced to lurking and finally can't find justification to care about the quest.

How do I pick a good name for my quest?

>>158141
Give it a relevant name to the plot?

New Dark Gate Academy thread is up.
>>158162
>>158162
>>158162

Is using black/grey/white stockphotos with watermarks removed, and blurred/blended acceptable as background?

>>158277
Doesn't really seem to matter to some anons.

>>151497
It's been in autosage for two days and hasn't left page 8.

>>152541
> Having a board made is the goal of literally every general thread.
It really wasn't in this case. It was forced on us by habitual haters who were entirely delusional.

>>158364
It's been on page 9 for at least an hour, try to keep up.

>>153845
>>153826
When a complete pandering overpowered MC yuri quest gets two entire posters, you can be sure that the playerbase of a board is entirely nonexistent.

Look at the previous /qsg/. It's on page 8, and has been on page 8 for two days even with autosage. There's no movement on the board to push it off page 10. That's not a healthy, active board at all. And since it is players that make a quest board active...the math is done for you.

10% of the board is nothing - proven not just on /tg/, but here as well. Empirical evidence isn't something you can argue with.

>>158382
You are correct, my bad.

>>151224
>If you do not intend to run a collaborative story, do not post a thread here! This includes meta-threads
>better spam muh "general" because if it isn't on the front page I don't exist.
What's a catalog?

Solo Dungeoneering Quest tonight at 1730 Eastern. You are Abram, a Dwarven fighter-thief who has returned to town to rest and prepare for the next adventure.

Rules are based on Swords & Wizardry, an old school D&D retroclone.

Dramatic Princesses Rescue Quest continues and most likely concludes. >>158565

>>158608
>Yuri smut quest
yeah, nah

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How do you guys do a popular vote when no one's replying?

Likewise, what do you guys do when no one's there?

>>158694
>How do you guys do a popular vote when no one's replying?
Isn't that a contradiction in itself?

>>158732

I really wanted to have a popular vote; I have a series of prompts and then the most popular one is chosen. Unfortunately, my quests have like 2 people max at most given moments. Is there an alternative to popular vote, besides rolling?

>>158751
Oh, you mean majority vote. It's the best system, no matter how small or large your playerbase is. The only exception is drawquests where it's generally accepted that the drawfag QM is allowed to pick any suggestions.

>>158769
I'm a drawfag qm. So, is there a way to make your quests not die, or is it just because this board is sorta slow?

>>158786
It is the middle of the workday/schoolday for most of everyone in the EST timezone.

>>158786
The board is slow, but that's not the reason you don't get a lot of players. I guess people just don't find the setting of your quest entertaining? I really can't tell you, but lack of interest/quality is usually (not always) the reason a quest only gets a small number of players.

>>158802
So my quest is basically just boring.
Well, I'm just going to keep on drawing because I wanna finish something in my lifetime.

>>158810
What is your quest´s setting, anon?

>>158834
I'm the guy who did those 4tress quest things, but I didn't like it so I stopped doing it. Now I'm doing the Generic Fantasy Quest story.

Thinking of running a quest about a group of people with assorted powers being shoved into a dungeon crawl. Basically the government takes a bunch of criminals/heretics, throws them into an ancient temple dungeon type area, and tells them that they can get a pardon if they get to the bottom.

I would likely try to balance out combat bits and puzzle bits, because too much puzzles in quests either ends with the PC knowing all of the answers all the time and being far too useful, or not knowing the answer and the thread devolves into endless durdling. Gonna try to add a bit of politics and social stuff, in the form of the group devolving into a bunch of cliques who think the group should progress in one way or another.

Setting would likely be pre-modern, think like mid 19th century, and I will probably have only humans and no magic outside of small corner cases (like the group that gets sent in).

Thoughts?

>>159058
>>in the form of the group devolving into a bunch of cliques who think the group should progress in one way or another.
>'Lord of the Flies' feeling intensifies.

>>159079
Ideally.

I will also add that I intend the quest to have moderately high lethality, with the PC able to die, and then one of the other people taking over as the PC.

Note, I only had this idea this morning, and I would want to flesh out quite a bit of stuff before actually running it, so it will probably be a good 3 weeks or so before I actually get around to running it, but if there is interest, I can post periodic updates and get feedback on what people want before it starts. And if there isnt interest I can just drop the idea before I invest too much time, or recycle the idea into an RPG I run in the future.

>>159058
>>159092
Interesting. Do you have a MC at the ready, or is there going to be some kind of character select. Don't go with letting the players create the character themselves, get them to choose from templates you have created. Templates that include the general personality guidelines and their powers. Gender and sexual preferences should not be put into the hands of the players, as they will devolve into waifuing and harems of all kinds.

>>159097
I intend to create around 20 characters with a moderate amount of flesh before the game begins, divided into 3 cliques that suit the way they would want to do things, probably something like one who wants to progress quickly (might-makes-right), one who wants to progress slowly and carefully (life is precious), and one of misfits who are basically freaking out all the time (the most archetypal group to be the focus of a shounen anime). I might replace the last one if I can come up with a better idea, or if somebody wants to offer one.

Anyway, I would have three characters (one for each faction) fleshed out much more intensely, and the first option would be a choice between one of the three.

>>159110
The whole thing sounds cool, I'd like to see it someday.

>>159110
>>159092
Do it!

Delayed by some doggy diarrhea. Will run Solo Dungeoneering Quest at 1830 Eastern

>>157432
>>157432
>>157432

One last shill of this thread, before I go into "last resort" and do a pt4 thread and update all the pastebins for a new session entirely.

back again with Our Vessel of Ash.

>>138292
>>138292
>>138292

The quest I'm planning right now has a Muslim girl QMC living in Paris suburbs. How much /pol/posting can I expect? I'd like to run it here, or on /tg/, since the combat system is going to be a tad involved.

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So tempted to run a Fighting Fantasy style quest...

Solo Dungeoneering Quest is go

>>>/tg/47358023

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>>159796

>>159824
>>159824
>>159824

Beleaguered Prince Quest is up once more.

Delayed by work, but I should have the next installment of Cyberpunk Detective up rather soon, if anyone's interested.

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I woke up this morning with a sudden urge to run a quest based on Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei. I remember someone bringing it up in /qsg/ a while ago, but I don't think anything came of it, and it brings up a few points about fanfic quests that I'd like a second opinion on.

For those who aren't familiar with it, Mahouka is, like a lot of Japanese light novels, an okay premise with a terrible execution. The author is absolute shit at geography and international politics (pic related) and he really, really fucking hates the Chinese. The series has a relatively interesting blend of magic and science, but the author goes out of his way to make it sound as boring and tedious as possible.

Basically, the only way to run a quest in this setting is to put it in Europe or maybe America (it also gets fucked up) and completely ignore the vast majority of the setting, plot and characters, but at that point, I might as well just rip off the parts that aren't complete shit and turn it into an original setting.

How would other QMs deal with an idea like this? How much can you take from existing settings when you're doing an original quest?

>>159892
My biggest problem with that series (having only watched the anime) is that they spent most of the promoting how mediocre the MC is at 90% of things, and then in the last few episodes, they go full Deus Ex Machina and turn it all around and make him basically god.

The world was interesting enough though, I'd tune in.

>>159947
>>159947
>>159947

Active with a new thread. If this one doesn't stick, I'll try another quest. Feedback helps, too!

>>159947
>>159947
>>159947

Active with a new thread. If this one doesn't stick, I'll try another quest in the same setting. Feedback helps, too!

How pissed would my players be if I used Homestuck music in my quest?

>>160005
I really don't think anyone would be bothered if the music wasn't awful.

Tobyfox's stuff is pretty solid for RPGs. Megalovania I know made a tabletop session 100% better.

>>159800
Alright, it's been thirty minutes without a response. Should I call it a the night?

>>150450
I feel like either I'm really bad at being a QM or this board is basically dead. The community is so small and the lack of players is really killing my quest. Did I do anything wrong? is my quest boring?

I have no idea what to do to get more players because I'm putting a lot of effort into the quest but I just feel like no one is really enjoying it. The main progression I get is mainly by players who just happen by or 100% mobile players.

Any tips? or something? I have no idea what I'm asking. But I'm just saying there isn't much motivation for me to continue a quest that has been kept alive solely by my stubbornness to quit. I feel like my writing is fine and the pictures make it less of a word wall.

>>160070
Try an hour. If no one comments just keep the tab open and on auto and do something else. That's what I've been doing the entirety of my quest.

>>160076
This is on /tg/, mind you

>>160091
I don't know the dynamics of /tg/. Best pack it up if it's been that long on a faster board.

>>160091
>>160117
No, just wait until it hits Page 10 without any votes, that's like a 4 hour wait from Page 1.

>>160128
>4 hour

>>160076
Way I see it there are two types of people who would come here: a relatively small number of /tg/ posters who are mainly following migrated quests, and people who were in it for the shiny new board.

Many of the former aren't going to really be looking for a new quest to participate in, and most of the latter seem to have lost interest. In other words, we're seeing exactly what we predicted from the start: /qst/ isn't actually sustainable.

>>160143
Sometimes being right feels awful.

>>160076
The community is pretty close to dead - the preferences are so specialized, there's no way to tell if anyone might be interested here.

you you take concepts based on total pandering that should at least get 10-15 people at least lookign at it, and you get 2-4 players and only 6 lookie-loos....there's really no hope.

I am pretty much going to continue one quest here, and the other on /tg/ as long as I can, and see if things improve in time.

I doubt they will.

This boards basically dead now right?

Been checking on it now and then every day and theres little playerbase left in a lot of the currently running quests and the very few new ones that start up just die immediately

>>160164
Nah, I honestly feel pretty great about being right. Just watching /qst/ slowly die has been great, it's not like any quests I read have been impacted by it and it also gave us that great planefag meltdown.

>>160201
I wouldnt really know what constitutes dead, but at certain times during the day its pretty normal for a thread to be front paged for about an hour from one bump before hitting page 2.

>>160218
>great planefag meltdown

wut

>>160221
He got totally fucking #rekt by his players in one of his threads because he kept going on about how /qst/ was a fine idea and wouldn't negatively impact questing at all or some bullshit like that.

It was great. http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/21205/#p22822

>>160164
Eh. I honestly don't feel too strongly one way or the other. Not much has really changed for me, and even the shitposters on /tg/ have apparently given up. I've still got the summaries written up in case Moderation decides to follow through and force me onto /qst/, but I'm pretty glad that I haven't been forced to use them yet.

>>160239
Yeah. I guess it's mostly a problem for new quests which aren't draw quests by good artists like Awake. And even that one wasn't that populated.

>>160233

>planefag refuses to make sweeping assumptions about /qst/ and wants to remain optimistic
>this means he got rekt when salty faggots screamed and shouted at him like whiny little bitches

>>160128
Try closer to two days.

>>160277
I was talking about the board speed of /tg/ where Solo Dungeoneering Quest is being run, not /qst/. The speed of /qst/ is currently 3 days to fall off the board during autosage.

Honestly when /qst/ first showed up, I didn't really mind it at all. I read the QnA threads a bit, had some fun in the first few (mostly meme or shitposting) quests, and went to bed. Over the next few days I saw a few somewhat interesting quests I played in, and some older quests tried running here and seemed to be doing fine, so I figured things would be good.

I did notice however that even the more popular new quests here often seemed to be kinda low-effort. Like the greentext quest which was just no-effort when it came to writing and also had a 'plot' fully based on wish-fulfilment which is fun for a bit but kinda needs some nice writing if it wants to last. That one seems about dead now. Or the Yuri quest which seemed pretty directionless and the QM apparently gave up on it. There's also tons of quest with mediocre to poor art that don't seem to draw in nearly as many players, in general, as quests that just crib whatever animu or fantasy or sci-fi images they can find instead and seem to get no players. And I can't really blame them - after the first few days, I honestly stopped looking through the catalog for new things because everything seemed either dead, low-effort, or civ (which I'm not interested in). The civ quests seemed to especially thrive for a while, dunno how they're doing now though.

I've barely looked at /qst/ the past week. Whenever I open the catalog it's just quests with 40 posts in two days or yet another civ quest. Dead quests propagate dead quests. But it's not like I'd have much interest in most of them even were they active, to be honest. There does finally seem to be less low-effort fare than before, but I feel like the board has already stagnated and ground to a halt. Just looking at the post numbers of these last posts the board only seems to be getting about 3 - 4 posts a minute right now for example, and this is while not prime-time, still pretty damn good time for activity on most boards! I wish /qst/ was more active but I dunno how you'd go about making it so.

>>160299
Ah, my bad. sorry.

>>160302
It's shit, and that's why I'm not running there

>>160302
I regret not drawfagging, now, to be honest.

Back to the drawing board.

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Tried starting a quest last week, giving it one last shot, 3 players needed!

>>160346

>>159892
have you heard the phrase "file off serial numbers"?

>>160339
I'm drawfagging. Not like it's helping that much, as far as I can tell.

>>160371

Just need one more person for this to get going!

>>159110
This guy here, buzzing in from my phone, was wondering if there were any good guides out there for writing dialogue well, I'm ter

>>160412
What quest?

My sinking feeling, and what I'm getting in Discord, is that I've got really bad choice in opening images.

>>160516
Excluding weekends Your threads go up right when this board starts slowing down it seems like.

Outside that i really dont have any answers for you.
Generally speaking, drawfaggotry catches my eye more than googled images, not to say it gets me looking into the thread.
Personally speaking i never thought your writing was bad, just that the story is formulaic, nothing came as a surprise.

I gotta ask, since there are still new quests popping up:

Why are people STILL asking for names as the first option?

>>160680
Laziness or a desire to give the players control of more than just the actions of the protagonist.

Any word on Death Among the Stars quest or GraveQM?

Are tumblr links frowned upon in here?

I'm planning to drawfag and I figure I could use one to set up a persistent Inventory and character profiles.

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>>160198
>>160302
The low activity of this board is the reason I haven't started my quest yet. /tg/ is an option, but I don't know if I want to risk dividing my archive if /qst/ becomes permanent.

>>160815
Might as well go for it. Only if you get a huge audience (unlikely) or somehow get a dedicated shitposter (also unlikely) will there be some shitposting of tumblr, but most likely nobody will give a damn and a place to keep track of everything sounds good.

>>160821
Shouldn't be too hard to direct people to the /qst/ archive if need be. It is annoying though.

>>160409
>>160409

Started ep 2 of my Quest today, but it's slow going. I'll probably not end this one until some good progress has been made, even if that means leaving it open for a day or two.

I do wish there was a skosh more activity here, but at least the time in between responses allows me to draw decent images.

>>160633
That's another question: when does the board pick up, generally? I'm in USTZ, -6 GMT. Lately I've just been posting whenever I can, but I turned into a night owl on the first thread.

And yea, LMVE follows a bit of a formula. I'd say it's because there's a rough outline in place, but it may be more because of the fact that I've got some writing on the side that follows the quest. I imagine it'll get a little less formulaic when I move off what's been established (I have a rough draft kind of version of the quest's plot on a googledoc), and start getting past that. Which, ironically enough, is right where we're at.

>>160875
Can't tell you about /qst/ but on /tg/ American noon or primetime would be solid. 5pm EST maybe? More leeway on the weekends of course.

>>160861
You should probably only post a two-part update when you got both parts finished. Cause I just decided to go do something else in the meantime.

>>160861
Also, write-ins only when we know nothing about the situation kinda kills participation.

>>160931
>>160766
>Responding to yourself, pretending to be the person you were talking about.

Oh shit nigger, what are you doing?