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New Benatar drops today.
Who /HYPED/?
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Did all the Benatar fans kill themselves?
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>>9701307
my sides
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Even though I'm an antinatalist I think Benetar's rhetoric is pretty terrible.
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You know the drill, post yer shelf. Rec, r8, depcrec8.
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it's trash, i know.
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>>9700986
cool. a guy came into my house the other day and i was in my robe and he just looked at my bookshelves for like 10 minutes
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What is the literary zeitgeist of our age? It seems like the best classic authors were able to tap into the biggest cultural shifts of their time and write literary works that metaphorically channelled and catalogued these shifts. What would the characteristics of a 21st century "defining" work of literature look like?
Can it be defined by genre? Transrealism seems to be the direction that we're heading; is that appropriate for this kind of work?
Is the novel too archaic a form for our time? With the advent of blogging, tweeting, and shitposting on forums, would the next great literary work look drastically different?
Would it follow the same conventions of traditional prose storytelling? Would it, perhaps, be an assemblage of intertextual quips and asides that only hold special significance when read in tandem with one another?
Speculate, folks.
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We're just 17 years in dude
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Comic book
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whatever it is when it comes out you're (we're) going to hate it because the star of the show is going to be younger than us, more privileged than us, attended better schools than us, and quite frankly writes better than us, it's sort of like that moment when you realize who the steve jobs of your generation is and it's not you, what a downer
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Seriously, is this shit a fucking meme? I am 30% of the way through. What the fuck is your problem /lit/?
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>is this shit a fucking meme?
W-what?
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Salinger was a jew and /lit/ is full of thought-policing jews who like to promote their fellow chosenites. Catcher is the epitome teen angst trash. It's a terrible book promoted to kids for subversive purposes.
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>>9700638
You fucking heard me, pal!
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>"The only thing which consoles us for our miseries is diversion, and yet this is the greatest of our miseries. For it is this which principally hinders us from reflecting upon ourselves, and which makes us insensibly ruin ourselves. Without this we should be in a state of weariness and this weariness would spur us to seek a more solid means of escaping from it. But diversion amuses us, and leads us unconsciously to death."
Is reading for escapism wrong?
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>>9700313
Yep. But we're all escapists anyways.
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>>9700313
>more solid escapism
like death perhaps?
look, pascal, according to you, both ways lead to death, one conscious and one unconscious. searching for bullshit paradoxes in the human condition is obviously your diversion, but it sure as fuck wearies me.
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>>9701502
t. ernest becker
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Why is Akutagawa such a smug piece of shit?
I mean, he has a right to be one, he wrote some amazing stuff (Mori Sensei is one of my favourite short stories) but still.
Every image I see, he has this smug look on.
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Just look at the guy!
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>>9700299
you are like a little baby
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If you could only choose ONE other language to read in, either than your mother tongue, which would you pick?
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Latin. The only right answer
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Russian. It's an excellent language for poetry. If not that, then german.
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English because I'd suffer trying to find translations to French.
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Volker Ullrich's Hitler: Ascent, 1889-1939 2017-06-30 07:45:56 Post No.9699793
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Volker Ullrich's Hitler: Ascent, 1889-1939
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I hear good thing about this biography of Hitler, is it worth a read?
How does it compare to the works of Ian Kershaw and Richard J. Evans?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28185975-hitler
https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/Book-Reviews/2016/1007/Hitler-Ascent-1889-1939-is-the-richest-most-convincing-portrait-yet
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>>9699793
>4.41 @ GR.
I can already tell you that it will be shit.
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>>9699801
>747 ratings
That's not that many tho
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>>9700090
Fair point.
I'd take any book released 10+ years after WW2 about Hitler with a truck of salt.
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>“War is thus divine in itself, since it is a law of the world. War is divine through its consequences of a supernatural nature which are as much general as particular. War is divine in the mysterious glory that surrounds it and in the no less inexplicable attraction that draws us to it. War is divine by the manner in which it breaks out.
So, /lit/ is Maistre right?
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>War is divine by the manner in which it breaks out.
de maistre v rene girard v judge holden v clauswitz v &c
who wore it better
will be watching this thread
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>>9699666
That sounds like it was ripped right out of some incel's okcupid profile
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>>9699699
meme af senpai
>>9699691
v heraclitus v military-industrial complex v drone industry v your aunt gladys
bellum omnium contra omnes v bellum omnium contra hominem
and shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA
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What will I actually miss if I just read a bit through the sophists, the entire wikipedia article on Socrates and then read the Republic?
I'm not looking to be an expert on the greeks or anything I kind of just want to get a basic understanding of them so that I can read the later western philosophy.
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>>9699647
That's not the way this works, bub. It's either do it the right way, or don't even bother.
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>>9699647
Aristotle arguably had the greatest impact of the three on Western thought, so it would be a crime to skip him altogether. At least read either Metaphysics or Nicomachean Ethics as they dominated western philosophy until about the Renaissance and are still relevant now.
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Then read them
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Just recieved the results of my Mensa test 2017-06-30 07:08:33 Post No.9699595
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Just recieved the results of my Mensa test
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And I have an IQ in the top 2% of all test takers.
I feel so relieved and confident. I really believe I can do anything I put my mind to, I honestly do. Yeah I have my problems, no my writing's not perfect, yes I'm a lazy sadsack, but I also have the capacity to achieve great and incredible things. The wiring in my brain is there, all I need is the will
At this moment I am overcome with a very intense love for life and beauty. I love you, /lit/. I love literature. I am alive!
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>>9699595
Hey, congrats. Can you please elaborate on the testing. Your IQ score, etc?
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>>9699595
gj anon
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>he fell for the IQ meme
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Tim Severin's Viking Trilogy 2017-06-30 06:56:07 Post No.9699533
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Tim Severin's Viking Trilogy
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Is this good?
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>>9699533
Read the Saxon Stories instead. Its the inspiration for The Last Kingdom and its outstanding.
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>>9700099
It's not finished
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>>9699533
hello facebook !!!
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On the existence of God 2017-06-30 05:07:17 Post No.9699115
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Does God exist?
Surely, on the head of every theist, and I am a theist in every regard, rests a burden – to produce proof of God’s existence – but, when did the burden turn into a noose around their neck?
So, what is proof? Is proof only valid through sight? Surely then infrared rays don’t exist. Or dark energy, the mystery which pervades the entire universe. Is it smell? Is it taste?
Or is it science? Will atheists accept God after a machine quantifies his attributes?
What counts as proof? The atheist argument boils down to the absurd notion of an omnipotent, omniscient, moral God. And the underlying assumption that the absence of proof is proof of absence. But proof is not absent. Not for God’s existence.
Here, I will use a quote by an Islamic mystic to argue against a scientific proof of God:
He cannot be protected by something above Him nor supported by something below Him. He cannot be defined by something that preceded Him, no togetherness can appear next to Him, no behindness can follow Him, no in-frontness can grasp Him, no beforeness can prevail over Him, no afterness can annihilate Him. No term can comprehensively define Him, no becoming can add existence onto Him, no absence can cause Him to disappear. There is no description of Him whatsoever; His actions have no cause; His existence has no end. He is far removed from the characteristics of His creatures, nor does He mix with them; His actions require no intermediary. He is distinct from His creatures through His eternity, while they are distinct from His through their origination in time.
If you ask “When?”, His being preceded all time. If you ask “Where?”, His existence was there before any place. The letters are but His signs; His existence is the confirmation of Him; His knowledge is the knowledge of His oneness; and the knowledge of His oneness is what makes Him distinct from His creatures. Whatever the imagination might fathom regarding Him, He will be different from it. How can anything that originated from Him dwell in Him? How can anything that He produced try to join Him? The eyes cannot contemplate Him nor can thought grasp Him. Closeness to Him is [a sign of] His beneficence; remoteness from Him is [a sign of] His neglect; His elevation takes place without climbing up; His descent occurs without stepping down. He is “the First and the Last, the Manifest and the Hidden”, the Close and the Remote, “like Him there is naught; He is the Hearing, the Seeing”.
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>cont.
Now, as you all can see, science cannot determine through the scientific method an entity which exists outside the physical universe, outside dimensions, outside the natural forces.
So, we must resort to personal, more subjective proof.
Numerous individuals have experienced profound mystical states they attribute to God and have written about such phenomena. Furthermore, the evidence of miracles recorded at the hands of Godmen, prophets, and so on act as proofs for the existence of God.
So, for theists v. atheists, we have two opposing factions arguing over truth. Theists, though, accept the proofs presented to them as viable proofs of God. Theists have, to the best of their abilities, given proof of God, physical evidence notwithstanding, as God is beyond quantification, He simply exists outside the universe, outside space and time.
My question is that atheists have rejected numerous proofs accepted widely by theists. Yet they claim the burden of proof is on the head of theists. Why?
Theists are content with the proof for God’s existence. The absence of God is the presence of void. So, theists argue for the presence of a void, as the universe began from nothing, with the big bang. And if it was created by nothing as well, as the atheists argue, what exists outside the universe is a void.
Why is there no proof on the head of atheists to prove that there’s a void? Nothing created something out of nothing.
The last “proof” came 1400 years ago in the form of Islamic scripture, affirming God’s existence. Yet atheists claim He does not exist.
So, /lit/, my argument stands before you. Why are theists still taken to task over God’s existence? Why aren’t atheists over the existence of a void?
Thank you.
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"Openly appearing to those who look for Him with all their heart, while hiding from those who run from Him with all their heart, God governs human knowledge of His presence. He gives signs that are visible to those who search for Him, and yet invisible to those who are indifferent to Him. To those who wish to see, God gives sufficient light; to those who do not wish to see, He gives sufficient darkness."
-Blaise Pascal
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>>9699166
This is beautiful.
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/lit/ New York City Meetup III 2017-06-30 02:55:58 Post No.9698679
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/lit/ New York City Meetup III
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Hello /lit/. The time of year has come again for the students of literature on /lit/ to meet up in New York City, to discuss literature and share a meal together.
So far two meetings over the past year have been successful and this event is shaping up to have the biggest turnout yet. We're going to have dinner and drinks together, and discuss the literature we've been reading.
The date will be July 6th, 2017 at 6pm. If you're interested, join the server at this link and let us know so we can reserve a seat for you.
https://discord.gg/8fUwYh
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Comfy
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are there...girls..
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are there girls(male)
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I want to learn about Catholicism. What should I read?
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Anyone?
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a whole mess a dem dusty tomes
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>>9698690
this, dusty tomes are the way to go