I.
AM.
SMARTER THAN YOU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZV8Juna40
>>9703809
whoa...he revealed his full power level!
Reminds me that I need to fucking exercise already. What's the best way to get enough exercise in the least amount of time?
>>9703809
>/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but ideally those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.
>age
>interesting factoid about yourself
>current book you're reading
>>9703384
>18
>I have a homophilic crush
>Infinite Jest
>26
>Own a fleshlight
>Mythology by Edith Hamilton and War and War by Laszlo Krasznahorkai
remove datamining
>Man is a dark beast, and an unruly one. So much so that he has to codify laws to tame his nature, it being so depraved it shocks even himself.
>He was polite to the point of being rude; never speaking unless spoken to, avoiding eye contact lest he give off an air of intimidation, and distant for fear of encroaching on someone else's stage
Also, short but sweet
>Thought itself is a kind of psychosis
I screencapped this so don't go thinking you can plagiarise my brilliance.
I'm going to steal it and re-word it very carefully so that it fits into my much-better-than-you-could-possibly-do story (they're not very good)
I'm going to translate it and give it off as my original work.
I AM THE POSTER OF THIS THREAD. IF ANYONE FINDS THIS THREAD, THEY MUST UNDERSTAND: ALL KIKES MUST BE GASSED
GERMANY'S FUTURE MUST BE SECURED FROM THE REVOLTING JEW MENACE
DON'T PLAGIARISE MY WORK
IF YOU WANT TO QUOTE ME, REMEMBER TO QUOTE ME AT MY BEST:
>Man is a dark beast, and an unruly one.
>Thought itself is a kind of psychosis.
So there is a thread about this on /cm/, but I figured this would be a better place for it.
What are some books with gay themes that aren't complete shit written for horny fujoshis?
Look up Yukio Mishima.
>>9703317
Picture of Dorian Gray. I had a gay crush while I read it, and the way Basil describes his feelings for Dorian Gray is exactly the way gay crushes feel like.
>>9703317
>A Single Man
>Giovanni's Room
>Confessions of a Mask
>Orlando
>Mrs. Dalloway
are podcasts /lit/?
yo bro they lit af doo is like this shit was all 'bout his childhood drama BOOM bitch! mind blown, knowwhatamsaying?
>>9703147
Denis, is that you?
>>9703147
Entitled Opinions
>scan library card and book
>message pops up on terminal screen asking me to wait for assistance
>stern looking lady approaches me with two security guards
>"sir, could you please follow me. this will only take a moment."
>they lead me to small room with a few waiting chairs
>i sit down and notice that the guards are blocking the exit
>lady assures me she will be back in a moment and enters an adjoining room
>she closes the door behind her and i notice that on the door is written 'penis inspection lab'
i can hear her putting on rubber gloves. what do i do?
>>9702723
>not wanting a sexy librarian/lab technician to jerk you off into a sample cup
I have some bad news for you son
>>9702723
Kek. Nice greentext, lad.
lmfao this shit going on r/4chan
>Dude, you know a great way to get over your writer's slump?
>COFFEE!
>coffee
>not suicide
I set those coffee "enthusiasts" on the same plain as junkies. They're annoying, quirky and talk about how great it is without you even asking.
Can free will be reconciled with Providence?
god can contradict himself, presumably. so, in the end, free will is just another drop in the bucket. the rule of non contradiction is irrelevant since it is a fragment of human consciousness, and not necessarily indicative of reality, and even if it is, god is a supreme being and can obviously determine and violate rules of a reality he created to begin with.
>>9701697
except to find me on the next band of the spiral :~)
>>9701720
Your spiral shit is exactly that—shit.
anybody can listen to Tool, friend, but only assholes would.
I've been told I shouldn't read sad and depressing books because of my depression diagnosis and start reading some cheerful books. Are there really any cheerful books except YA and genre fiction? Are there any cheerful classics?
Pride and Prejudice.
>>9701555
Swift
Cervantès
Molière
>>9701555
The Pickwick Papers
Jeeves and Wooster
Why haven't you accepted idealism and God?
There are three main responses to the mind body problem. Either we accept that a) protons are unconscious and human beings are conscious: meaning that there exists a collection of unthinking atoms somewhere in between the two that when arranged in a slightly different configuration to another, practically identical, collection of unthinking atoms, miraculously gives rise to a first person experience of the self (materialism), or b) telekinetic interaction between the different substances (dualism), or c) the notion of ‘conscious’ protons combining together in though some mysterious mechanism (Panpsychism).
But what if idealism is true?
Contrary to common sense? Well so is physics. Quantum mechanics teaches us that objective reality, contrary to our common sense intuition, does not exist prior to measurement. In the standard Copengagen interpretation of quantum mechanics there exists a ‘Heisenberg cut’ – a boundary between the observer and the observed. Von Neumann argued that all material objects must be placed on the ‘observed’ side of the Heisenberg cut, and that only consciousness can be placed on the ‘observer’ side. The Heisenberg cut is one of the main axioms underlying quantum mechanics, and since ‘dechoherance’ can’t solve the measurement problem, the boundary must be placed somewhere. Defining an observer as an immaterial mind is difficult to accept for someone wedded to materialism; but it is the only way to solve the problem of ‘where to put the cut’, while holding to the Copenhagen interpretation. Otherwise, the measurement problem simply remains a mystery.
Thus, only idealism can solve the hard problem and the measurement problem. But this doctrine raises some serious questions: if the world is nothing but ideas, why do they seem to show more persistence and stability than objects of our imaginations or in our dreams? How is it that these ideas are ordered to such minute details so as to make the most detailed scientific investigations show consistency? When I use the word ‘idea’ here I’m referring to the Berkeleyan notion of ‘ideas of the sense’ – these are the physical objects we passively perceive through our senses, as opposed to what we are able to willingly conjure up in our mind’s eye though imagination. Since these ‘ideas of the sense’ are necessarily the product of a mind, and evidently not of our own mind – because I cannot, however hard I try, imagine anything as remotely detailed and ordered as what we perceive through the senses (even in a dream) – it follows that these ideas must be caused by another, far more powerful, mind.
That mind must be God.
>>9700013
Garbage.
>Quantum mechanics teaches us that objective reality, contrary to our common sense intuition, does not exist prior to measurement.
It does not. Operationally and mathematically, quantum mechanics tells us nothing about how the world is.
> In the standard Copengagen interpretation of quantum mechanics there exists a ‘Heisenberg cut’ – a boundary between the observer and the observed. Von Neumann argued that all material objects must be placed on the ‘observed’ side of the Heisenberg cut, and that only consciousness can be placed on the ‘observer’ side.
Neumann and Bohr's interpretations are vastly different. Copenhagen does not postulate consciousness as a necessary requirement for the collapse of the wave function nor is there even a consensus over what Bohr really meant, although his own statements point towards a belief in an objective reality underlying quantum phenomenon. Neumann's is usually ranked lower than other interpretations because there is no explicit mechanism by which consciousness might be said to cause collapse. Why pick this over Bohmian or Everettian mechanics? Everett's contribution towards the development of decoherence would at least point in the direction of Many Worlds as opposed to consciousness.
The saddest thing of all is that you completely overlook the one thing that could potentially support your point: Bell's Theorem. A rejection of counterfactual definiteness would entail a notion of scientific discovery that becomes nothing more than reading the pointer clicks on our instruments as opposed to acquiring privileged access to the external world. Only then might the moon not be there when no one is looking.
>>9700118
>It does not. Operationally and mathematically, quantum mechanics tells us nothing about how the world is
What? Quantum mechanics tells us that a system prior to measurement (observation) is described by the ‘wave function’, which evolves deterministically according to the Schrödinger equation as a ‘superposition’ of different states.
We can get into the ontology of a wave function if you like, but an object in a superposition cannot be said to 'exist' in the same way a table 'exists' when I look at it.
The double slit experiment, and others like it, tells a great deal about how the world is and your assertion there is frankly bizarre.
>Copenhagen does not postulate consciousness as a necessary requirement for the collapse of the wave function
Not *necessarily* no. You can always take the 'shut up and calculate' approach, but von-Neumann's logic is undeniable.
If we start with a superposition (S), the interaction of S with a measurement apparatus (M) would result in a superposition. But we could think of another apparatus (M0 ) that measures M and S, and we’d still have a superposition, and keeping doing this indefinitely, ever adding more measurement apparatuses to the chain – including our eyes, our optical nerves and our brain. We would be left with a brain/measurement apparatus/system that is still in a superposition. But since we never actually observe a superposition, this chain needs to stop somewhere. According to von Neumann there is only one step when we know for sure that we do not have a superposition: when we gain conscious knowledge of the measurement apparatus; i.e. when matter interacts with the mind.
>Why pick this over Bohmian or Everettian mechanics?
It's telling that even Einstein - who hated Copenhagen - couldn't bring himself to adopt 'Bohm's approach'. (It was actually Prince Louis de Broglie who invented the 'pilot-wave theory', but he wasn't a media savvy commie like Bohm...) The theory is incomplete. It is incompatible with relativistic quantum mechanical models and with loop corrections (Feynman diagrams), as Hardy's paradox shows. It is simply a caricature of nature.
As for 'Everettian mechanics', it is an outright violation of Occam's Razor. And more importantly, no Everettian has been able to find a consistent derivation of the Born probabilities.
The choice between Copenhagen and other 'interpretations' isn't a philosophical decision on my part, it's just a better theory.
>The saddest thing of all is that you completely overlook the one thing that could potentially support your point: Bell's Theorem.
Well yes, the experimental violation Bell's (and Laggatt's) inequality only supports my argument and invalidates your very first claim in your post.
This all you have managed to achieve in this post is adding to the strength of my argument, whilst failing to debunk it with two vastly inferior interpretations of QM.
>>9700013
you are right desu. Look into the weirdway and Oneirosophy.
Look at the Kabbalah tree of life.
Consciousness (essence of God) -> Intellect -> emotions/feeling -> the world. It is the same way our perception is crafted. Both God is God and we are God -- more accurately, our piece of consciousness is divine.
ITT: Write the smartest, most profund thing you can think of
>>9699300
This is nothing but a meretricious deceit, for my solemn is nothing but fathomable and ostentatious. This is true to the extend of ontologism and Kiergegaardism, thereby through all of certainty. You shall be of verboten and censured into utter dissension, for your imbroglio is nothing but a unilateral anathema, antithesis; recherche. This is to the periphery of abomination, to the brink of Existentialism and ethical egoism. For thou must be interdicted in all of certainty. Though it may seem a concomitant, let be a contumacious individual. This shall not avail, such defamatory and garrulous desultory shall not prevail. Thus, it shall be obliterated fecklessly with no lachrymose, for it shall never be remembered.
Reality as we see it may just an illusion. it could be all a projection of our conciousness, analyzing complex math equations in order to create in our mind the world we are experiencing.
deep enough for you?
>>9699300
Apathy to the goodness and badness around you, and not being self aware about your apathy is one of the purest virtues.
>feminist interpretation
These niggas for real? How the fuck can you think something written by a 19th century German philosopher was in any way feminist?
>>9697403
That's not what feminist literary theory is.
>>9697403
That's not how interpretation works.
Post your drafts, story ideas, whatever, anything goes and other anons rate.
>/lit/
>>9696548
The forest had begun transforming itself in a labyrinth with twists and turns on the trails they had taken. Her eyes wandered left and right, and what she saw was bushes, trees, and vines. A scenery which Ava, an huntswoman no younger than thirteen, had known all of her life, found herself foreboding. Nonetheless, Ava put those foreboding thoughts aside, and walked forward, she was born into a tribe that for a time in the past once sacked towns to their heart's content so the Storyteller would say.
can i get crit please https://pastebin.com/LywtY7BH
Haven't had one of these in a while, lets see some good shit boys
We're all reading/annotating good ol Dosty on this:
http://174.138.60.204/
Today is Day 4: chapters VIII and IX
Thank you guys for reading along :) :) :)
fook yea
>>9695125
I added annotations to the side so it's easier to use the thing now. Let me know what you guys think also if you have any suggestions let me hear them
>>9695217
Annotations seem to have disappeared for me as well as the ability to annotate.
I'm using Firefox and also tested it in Safari.