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Please help me; my other hobbies (video games and cinema) are failing me so I'm returning to literature my one true love.
I've read many of the essentials, a lot of Russian stuff, and anything I could get my hands on with a vaguely Philosophical bent (Camus and shit). I recently discovered Murakami: I think he's fantastic but I'm sure he's considered pleb here.
If anyone could take the time to give a recommendation or two I would really appreciate it. Done wasting my time on vidya.
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I'll bump once.
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>>7639670
and I'll end the thread:
look at the stick
have fun
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>>7639676
What stick asshole? It's a bear in a kiddy-pool where are you seeing suspicious sticks?
I'm currently reading Dune and I find all the ecological stuff Herbert incorporated really interesting. So where do I start with ecology?
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Marx
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I'm currently reading The Stranger and I find all the swimming and beach stuff Camus incorporated really interesting. So where do I start with swimwear?
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>>7641574
Excellent analogy.You are really clever.
so, i don´t come to /lit/ often so i don't know if im breaking any rules, i didn't find anything that could help me on the wikia
i need a easy, short greek tragedy, what would you reccomend?
>inb4 >>>/wsr/
this could also be a greeks general or something, idk
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iphigenia in aulis
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King Oedipus by Sophocles is the most well-known greek tragedy so I'd recommend that one.
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the clouds aristophanes is really fun to read
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About to start reading this. Any advice? I've heard it's a tough read. How long would it take on average to get through it?
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I only read the Constance Gardner translation, but it was great. It does suffer from issues that most 19th century writing does, but if you can get past that, it was phenomenal.
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>>7640735
you should be hooked by the family meeting at the monastery
>mfw literally every scene with Dmitri
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>>7640735
> I've heard it's a tough read.
It's not.It can be a bore if you're not used to old school type of writing and Dosty does tend to ramble a lot but that's all.It's not hard to grasp stylistically or conceptually.
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Hey /lit/
Valentine's Day is in two weeks. There's a girl who works in my office complex who I'd like to give a card to anonymously. Would the following message be autistic?
For Amy,
Happy Valentine's Day.
With love and squalor,
Bartleby
Does it sound like I'm trying to be deep&edgy or tryhard or something? The "joke" or reference here is that I'm a pretty quiet and expressionless individual in work. I've always like the Salinger story and her name sounds kinda similar to Esme's, though I'm not sure if it's sort of creepy since the girl in the story is around thirteen years old. Also I think using the word "love" here is maybe premature and again a little creepy perhaps.
Are there any females here willing to tell me what they think and what their reaction would perhaps be to receiving this?
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Has she read the book and discussed it with you?
If yes, that's probably fine.
In not, don't.
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>>7638809
No but I imagine she does read books. She's a pretty quote unquote cultural person.
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>>7638813
or cultured* I should say
Also why not if not?
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Is Infinite Jest just a shitty postmodern ripoff of Ulysses?
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>>7639253
No, but you're just a shitty postmodern ripoff of an intellectual.
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>>7639253
haha i love that scene where mario is in the wheelchair talking in ebonics while hal smokes a doobie and accidentally passes it to him
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uhhh.... not at all.
it's more like a self righteous didactic parable without the common sense to keep the parable lean, exploring every tiny detail - and ironically finding its only merits in those digressions
but no. not ulysses at all. 'postmodern' is a dubious label too, especially considering its rigid moral compass.
Let's talk about the plays of ancient Greece. They're a good way to start with the greeks, since they were stories widely known by the average greek citizen.
What's the best greek play, in your opinion, /lit/? I like The Bacchae, Oedipus Rex and Prometheus Bound. Medea is pretty nice too.
The plays were a huge influence over many writers - Shakespeare, Milton, etc.
Any important works that should be read in order to understand the plays even more?
Maybe, greeks general.
>inb4 meme
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>>7637155
meme
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>>7637155
I like Ibsen very much, OP.
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>>7637195
Greeks, not romans, imbecile.
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Each passing year his words ring truer and truer 2016-01-30 19:00:39 Post No.7641204
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Each passing year his words ring truer and truer
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He tried to warn you
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The white man marches on.
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>>7641239
find a man who talks about "progress" and "economic growth" and you'll find who's marching
protip: it's all races, in every continent
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So I found this old book from 1902. Very interesting content. Here's a few pics of the poems I found
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I'm waiting...
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http://imgur.com/a/NIL9Y
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Am trying to do this from phone, pics too large for the board. Had to upload to imgur. Sorry for my incompetence.
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Story is the most important factor 2016-01-30 15:46:02 Post No.7640603
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Story is the most important factor
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Recently /lit/ have been saying story is second to characters and themes - that's wrong. Saying that story doesn't matter at all might be acceptable for a work like porn where the point has nothing to do with appreciating the story, characters, or things like that. But in a serious work where actual effort is put into its creation, a good story will only improve the overall quality whether it's character-driven or not. It's just a fact that the story is a weak point of Karamazov and that it could be better.
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>>7640603
>Recently /lit/ have been saying story is second to characters and themes
No, we've been saying plot is second to those. There's a difference.
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Weak bait, everyone who replies in earnest is fucking stupid
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>>7640605
You're wrong.
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That is no country for old men. The young
In one another’s arms, birds in the trees
—Those dying generations—at their song,
The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas,
Fish, flesh, or fowl, commend all summer long
Whatever is begotten, born, and dies.
Caught in that sensual music all neglect
Monuments of unageing intellect.
An aged man is but a paltry thing,
A tattered coat upon a stick, unless
Soul clap its hands and sing, and louder sing
For every tatter in its mortal dress,
Nor is there singing school but studying
Monuments of its own magnificence;
And therefore I have sailed the seas and come
To the holy city of Byzantium.
O sages standing in God’s holy fire
As in the gold mosaic of a wall,
Come from the holy fire, perne in a gyre,
And be the singing-masters of my soul.
Consume my heart away; sick with desire
And fastened to a dying animal
It knows not what it is; and gather me
Into the artifice of eternity.
Once out of nature I shall never take
My bodily form from any natural thing,
But such a form as Grecian goldsmiths make
Of hammered gold and gold enamelling
To keep a drowsy Emperor awake;
Or set upon a golden bough to sing
To lords and ladies of Byzantium
Of what is past, or passing, or to come.
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>>7640219
Looks like a bird nested on his head.
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>>7640313
Maybe
Are readers better at scrabble?
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Readers may bring a large vocab, but Scrabble is ultimately a game and those who know the rules, who've played it more, and are clever, will win.
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>>7638827
No, especially WWF. The game where people can get lucky and play "xu" and "xi" at the same time over a triple word score because they're testing out where to put their X.
Also, not /lit/.
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I fucking suck at scrabble and I do nothing but read.
Bad brain I guess.
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What was your favourite avant-garde movement /lit/?
Not just in art but in literature.
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>>7633856
Im redpilled, so I am vehemently against all forms of avant-garde expression. It's degenerate
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>>7633865
This! Hitler was right about that
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>avant-garde
>Pop art
end your life kid
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>in class
>every student has to take turns reading
Is there anything worse than this?
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>>7633629
Are you in high school?
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>>7633629
How is 8th grade OP
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>That meathead who was stuttering and pausing between every word and couldn't pronounce "privacy"
how old were you when you read LOTR?
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i was 10 and i skipped entire pages that bored the living shit out of me
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>>7628679
middle school.
I moved on when I realized that fantasy is just a substitute for people too dumb to get into history.
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>>7628685
I see