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So I'm halfway through the Flemming Bond series. It's been a pretty wild ride and very well written. Curious what the favourite books of the set are for some of you.

Pic related has probably been the best with From Russia in second. The 70 or so pages of Casino were possibly the best I've ever read.

Also, I was poking around for some other good spy novels and Le Carre's George Smiley series has come up. Although it seems to be aesthetically different from the more action-adventure oriented Bond tales, I've read rave reviews. Can anyone confirm?
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>>7642145
The last 70 or so* whoops
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"'I had a little Bessarabian hell-cat. I had won her in a fight with some gipsies, here in the hills behind Istanbul. They came after me, but I got on board the boat. I had to knock her unconscious first. She was still trying to kill me when we got back to Trebizond, so I got her to my place and took away all her clothes and kept her chained naked under the table. When I ate, I used to throw scraps to her under the table, like a dog. She had to learn who was master. Before that could happen, my mother did an unheard of thing. She visited my place without warning. She came to tell me that my father wanted to see me immediately. She found the girl. My mother was really angry with me for the first time in my life. Angry? She was beside herself. I was a cruel ne'er-do-well and she was ashamed to call me son. The girl must immediately be taken back to her people. My mother brought her some of her own clothes from the house. The girl put them on, but when the time came, she refused to leave me.' Kerim laughed heartily. 'An interesting lesson in female psychology, my dear friend.'"
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What the fuck compelled you to read all the Bond novels

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I can't remember the name of this one book I read in high school, and I alsoforgot most of the plot. I remember it being a good book, I just didn't have the appreciation for literature back in those days and now I'd like to re-read it again. I'll try to summarize the plot from what I remember:

It's a story about teen/young adult who doesn't know what to do with his life/down on his luck. For some reason or another events lead up to him doing 4(?) unselfish actions to 4 different people. I remember one of the people he helped was a woman who was a dedicated runner, but was never able to come in first place. A new contest is coming up so he gives her a shoe box that has no shoes symbolizing that she should run in the contest barefoot. She comes in second place.
Also I think that these events are tracked via poker cards (diamond,hearts etc.)
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Might be Marcus Zusak - I Am The Messenger
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>>7641395
sorry to bump, but this is it, thank you anon

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I don't want to sound like a pleb but this was really a pain in the ass to get through. Dante's character is one of the most unsympathetic I've ever had to follow. Couldn't relate with him at all.
I would probably had to read it through again to really appreciate the vision of the Hell that Dante presented but after first reading it didn't leave any marks on me at all.

Also I think that it aged horribly due to altered conception of Christianity. I don't know...I was pretty hyped for it though.
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I'm talking just about the Inferno, how are the other two standing?
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Maybe you're just a pleb. What translation you reading?
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>>7641048
>Couldn't relate with him at all.
Am I really reading this?
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>>7641200
Yes, you are reading it.

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http://www.parentherald.com/articles/17911/20160128/the-winds-of-winter-release-date-update-george-rr-martin-book-nowhere-near-finished.htm

Hello everyone, I am a lazy fatass fuck. It takes me 7 fucking years to write a penny-dreadful, film-script based "novel". And it doesn't matter that it's my full time fucking job, literally the only thing I'm required to do, or that I jack off at 67 years of age by taking bum fuck vacations all over the world to live off the prestige of my now stagnate series that I can't fucking finish, that I'm constantly giving interviews and bullshit for the industry, and that I'm writing OTHER books that literally no one gives a fuck about. That's right, I'm not writing for the series that is the sole reason for all my fame and which everyone wants, no, I write other books that are truly shit and no one gives a fuck about. And when those that gave me all this money call me out on this shit, the best I can do is twiddle my fat fingers, flip them off and then whine on my blog about how ashamed I am of being a lazy fatass fuck. Oh, did I mention that I waste time playing videogames? I have all this responsibility, I'm 67 fucking years old and I waste time playing videogames, because that's really going to get the job done and get all these people off my back.
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>>7640988
No one cares faggot
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>>7640988
>implying he writes for your pleasure, not his

i know it hurts your ego, but he's not beholden to you
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Hello everyone, I care enough about Game of Thrones to write a two-hundred word rant about it.

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Thoughts?
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>>7640788
Pretty and poignant, though a tad too cliche IMO desu
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>>7640788
Trite and cliched. Too on the nose.
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overblown and not wholly original. polaroids have been popular for a while now.

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Have you ever paid respects to your favorite authors by visiting their graves, houses, etc.?

When I was in Russia this past summer I visited Yasnaya Polyana (Tolstoy's estate and final resting place), Dostoevsky's apartment and grave, Gogol's grave, Chekhov's grave, Pushkin's favorite cafe, Nabokov's home in Peterburg, and probably a few others that I can't recall at the moment.

>pic related

The guide said that the small window in the top middle was the supposed home of pawn broker.
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I've visited Sade's castle and village once. Beautiful place.
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Went to the Spanish Steps in Rome,
Keats died somewhere around there.
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I visited Áron Tamási's grave and childhood home in Transylvania. It was really nice. The author's niece and her husband own the place and they turned it into a memorial house with lots, lots of manuscripts, diaries, letters, photos and interviews. Some first edition stuff, too.
It was also the first place I visited that had no Romanian text at all and had everything in Hungarian.

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Who are your favourite short story writers? Can we have a thread about some less popular writers of short fiction (ie not Hemmingway, Chekhov, Carver, Salinger, Gogol)

My favourites are Kjell Askildsen and Breece D'J Pancake (and Katherine Mansfield, but she's quite popular I think). Anyone else ever read these writers? Have some unheard of favourites?
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I've read Breece DJ Pancake and enjoyed his stories Trilobytes, The Hollow and A Room Forever.

Pinckney Bennedict has a collection called Town Smokes. He's another West Virginia boy that made it to a fancy school and had some famous writer teachers who helped him along (like Pancake)

James Alan McPherson (one of Pancake's teachers) had a collection of short stories called Hue and Cry that I really liked.

Scott Wolven wrote a collection of short stories called Controlled Burn mostly about New England meth hicks and Idaho white supremacist militia types. He's a bit more noirish than Pancake and doesn't have Pancake's lyricism but he does tell some interesting stories.


Mary Gaitskill's Bad Behavior was pretty good and sexy and depressing.

Harold Brodkey's first collection of stories First Love and Other Sorrows was pretty awesome.
His later stories were a mix of interesting and "Jesus fuck you are self-absorbed you narcissistic asshole".
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This trap queen
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>>7640472

I think McPherson wrote the introduction to the book of Pancake's that I have, I've been interested in reading his stuff for a while - unfortunately I imagine it's hard and/or expensive to get in Australia.

>>7640482

Never read any O'Connor, where should I start my man?

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I found blood meridian to be comparable to moby dick, what are some other novels like these?
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never read moby dick but i have read BM.

may i suggest Count of Monte Cristo? its memed a lot because its really THAT good.
if you can suffer through 100 pages of Ayn Rand you might like Anthem.
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>>7640381
Moby Dick's primary influence is the Bible, Blood Meridian's primary influences are the Bible and Moby Dick. Read the bible if you haven't.
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>>7640381
Butcher's Crossing by John Williams was a little closer in theme and characters to Moby Dick, but wasn't a complete rip off. I enjoyed it throughly.

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>450 pages in
>All the Ennet house chapters are the same
>drip feed of useful information

Does it progress to be the book everyone hypes it out to be or will I not enjoy the remaining pages if I didn't enjoy the ones thus far?
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i have to go to work in like an hour, i don't really have to shit that bad, but if i don't squeeze one out now i know the urge to turd will strike like halfway through my shift, and since the building was built by some corrupt contractor there's no guarantee the bathroom won't be busted, fuck what should i do
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>>7640255
that book is ass
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If you don't enjoy it for the day to day lives of the characters stuff you won't find it getting any better. That is the main focus right up until the end.

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In this thread we appreciate the masterwork that is Finnegans Wake.

Babadalgharaghtakamminarronkonbronntonnerontuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurunk.

This is one of the thunderwords which actually depicts the falling of the tower of babel and the division of language.

babadal - stuttering of babel
gharagta - from the hindi for thunder
kamminaronkon - from the japanese for thunder
bronn - from the greek for thunder
tonnerron - from the french for thunder
tuon - from the italian for thunder
thunn - from the english for thunder
trovarr - from the t. alberto barbosa for thunder
hounawnskawn - a combination of the swedish and irish for thunder
toohoohoordenen - a stuttering of the danish for thunder
thurunk - from another irish way to say thunder

As you can see, it is an onomatopoeic word that demonstrates each new language describing the event. It is a celebration of different languages and the pleasure of speech itself.
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i was scared to start FW after finishing Ulysses. It felt like he was sucking away my english and replacing it with a new language. I can only imagine FW. this is incredible though.
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>>7640270
The fact that the book is a cycle invites you to dip into it wherever you want. It is truly one of those books which enables you to get from it what you can, so to speak.
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>>7640276
>The fact that the book is a cycle
Care to elaborate? i know nothing of FW, only actually what the OP said, really excited to read ulysses and then FW

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What is Riding the Tiger? Embracing degeneracy but not enjoying it?
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No, surfing the wave of degenerate age until it crashes, neither partaking in it or resisting it outright.
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>>7638661
If you don't partake in it, isn't that resisting it though? I can't wrap my head around that.
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How would you explain Evola's philosophy and worldview in few words? Is he similar to any other philosopher/author? People talk about him a lot here and I'm curious.

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What do you think about this book?

Also, do you like this cover or which one do you prefer?
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>>7638605
I just finished reading it a few days ago. I liked it, it was what I expected.
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its one of the books ive been wanting to read but i haven't found a copy that doesn't have that cover and i do not like that cover it is shit
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>>7638605
I like that cover, it really gives you the

THIS BOOK IS A SATIRE ON COMMUNISM feel

Is the 'patrician' just a prefabricated identity for those 'sophisticate' consumers who wish
(or think they wish) content consumption was capable of fulfilling the role of a meaningful experience? Is /lit/ essentially a space for consumers to reinforce this dynamic myth of the 'sophisticate' consumer through a series joyless and endlessly repeating rituals?
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Patrician is a quality of book, not a quality of person. Only plebs use it in the latter sense.
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>>7642220
nah, pleb archetype seems a boogeyman/justification for consumer habits. So you saying patrician-ness is some nebulous quality that is found in patrician content?
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I spend most of my time looking for high-end authentic content that reflects my unique personal brand. its way harder than it looks

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Self-insert fanfiction.
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>>7641653
Pretty much.
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>>7641653
Yup.
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cicero did it better

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A profoundly and arrogantly racist work, grounded entirely in baseless supposition and sweeping generalization. It reads like a fervent and heartfelt prayer whose direct answer came in the person of Adolf Hitler. It may be true that Nietzsche, in contrast to many of his contemporaries, was not an anti-Semite - however, his unmasked contempt and loathing for the infirm and marginalized members of society looms large and ironical given his own eventual fate.

The chief point of interest that I found in this work was his speculative exploration of morality arising out of the master / slave mentality, the sole basis of which, however, flowed unproven from his own unbounded thought-experiments. A masterpiece of vague and self-serving circular logic.

Seriously.
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>>7641494
please have sex
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>>7641516
Irrelevant.
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>>7641494
How many pairs of cargo shorts do you own OP?

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