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There is no reason why reading fiction is important. The whole it gives you empathy reason is bullshit and used by autistic shut-ins to feel superior for feeling emotions to a fictional character that they would never with a real person. And given this board is filled with raging retards who live for shitflinging, the empathy discourse is even more bullshit on a stupid board like this, despite no one on this board actually reading.
Either it's fun or it's not. There is no intrinsic worth to reading fiction. It's a waste of time either way.

>>7733617
Your life is a fictional tale and you and me learn from the characters inside it. That is why you learn more about your real life from reading fiction than any biology textbook, at least good fiction that is.

>>7733815
That makes no sense.

My dad writes historical fiction about Indians (feather, not red dot), so I guess I count my interactions with him.

I'm going to meet dfw soon, anyone got any messages you want me to pass on?

>>7733590
I met Jared Diamond, He was bird watching and asked me and my wife if we knew where the bird watching pamphlets were because there was no park staff working.

u should start with my ass whole ;)

>>7733578

start by waking up as a giant insect

>>7733578
>Is there anything I should read
Flaubert

>>7733554
Sounded like racist garbage to me. I didn't bother.

Its pretty dope. I don't remember it much tho. It had a cross dressing boy or something so I'm sure most people here would like it.

>>7733566

Could you recommend some racist gold?

>>7733537
have you tried buzzfeed good sir?

At Swim, Two Boys by Jamie O'Neill is the best I've read.

There's also Confessions of a Mask, The City and the Pillar, Maurice.

>>7733489
>cheesey
>to do with seasons
Vivaldi desu

>>7733505
I meant the title had something to do with it

>>7733412
The bigger the book the better it is, right?
>fucking faggot.

>>7733422
I think OP (while certainly a faggot) was rather implying that its length is what motivates their request for reliable 4chan opinions before jumping into it

>>7733495
basing whether or not to read something off of 4chan opinions is retarded and not worth making a thread about. what you want out of the book is a personal matter

Oh my god! people ITT were born in the same city as great people! I wish I were that special

>>7733406
Not city, but I know a few who share my race and gender. Does that count? A...are we /pol/ now? Please?

>>7733413
I wanted to see if the same applies for other city's.
But now you mention it I am at a more elevated status than you, worship me plebeian! Bask in the literary glory of my forefathers!!

>Reading gutter philosophy

>>7733461
Why do you think this ideology has no value?

The real problem with anarchism starts with people asking for a clear definition of what it is. There is no unity or agreement.

If Tao is finding the way of things and being in balance with your surroundings; Anarchism is finding discord chaos and imbalance, refusing to fit in or accept.

It's babbys first taste of independence, and considered shit-tier by any self-respecting thinker, why? Because most contrarian ideals have poorly formed value structures (mostly negations) and quickly become authoritarian and violent once they seize the slightest bit of power.

What are you rebelling against? You're living in the greatest age of mankind, shiny affordable handheld computers answer any question you could ever ask. Poverty and it's related diseases are close to eradicated. There are less people dying of war now that at any other point in all recorded history, despite the fact we have the largest ever global population. People are mostly free to travel, work and love as they desire.

Why be contrarian? Is it that you're reacting to some deep injustice in the world, or are you just a sour loser desperate for attention?

If you reject a system that has brought so many out of misery and into prosperity simply on moral grounds, without offering any tenable alternative, claiming only superiority of ideas, then expect to be rightly ignored.

Remember people were mocking Anarchists in the 1930s for being completely shut out by Lenin and Trotsky a decade earlier and having to flee for political asylum into the USA. Reading about this topic for anything other than historical context on the rise of the USSR seems pretty useless.

By the 1970s people stopped even bothering to pay attention.

An anarchist and a socialist are having a dinner conversation:
S: What is your favorite food?
A: I reject the construct of food, or favorites. By eating you are simply submitting to power, I will not make this concession, nor do I consent for you to do so on my behalf.
S: I like bread.
A: I hate fucking bread.

it probably has something to do with the distinction between kitsch and sublime

It depends on the reader.

The Japanese, for instance, are particularly unconcerned with separating drama from melodrama, and so you get stuff like Kurosawa's Ran.

It's basically the difference between guilt and shame; feeling guilt is drama, expressing shame is sentimentality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shame_society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt_society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melodrama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_%28style%29

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A lot of that depends on the reader.

Obligatory DFW connection: Wallace thought IJ was a very sad book.

Here's what's printed in the front of my edition:

"Uproarious" -New York Times

IJ is a "wickedly comic epic"- Seattle Times

"A blockbuster comedy"- Elle

"Brashly funny" -Chicago Tribune

General consensus on lit is that it's very sad, but very funny.

I just think it's sad. But that's understandable. Not everyone gets David like I do.

None. The reader associates "We hit it off" with people getting along well so all of those sound horrible. Just say "We got off on the wrong foot".

>>7733377
Thanks!

Is there some way to phrase it in a way younger people would say that?

>>7733368

As >>7733377 said, the two halves don't go together since the former implies a positive interaction. Instead of 'we hit it off', you would say 'we got off'. For the preposition, you would say 'to a bad start'. So 'We got off to a bad start'.

notes from the underground

>>7733352
The Recognitions.

look! listen! vibrate! smile!

Just watch more Satoshi Kon, especially Perfect Blue

>>7733348
How do you see brief bits of a movie? Is it that hard to marathon the whole thing?

As for books, if you like Mamoru Oshii read Phillip K. Dick (Ubik, The Man in the High Castle, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch) and Robert Anton Wilson (Prometheus Rising).

>>7733348
100 Years of Solitude.

Depends what you're going for. If your character is a regular everyman, then yeah.

>>7733326
Why is that puppy so cute.

>>7733326
no, stuttering and making mistakes and self corrections in literature is stupid. the way normal people talk is the way nervous or stupid people speak in literature and movies.

Lol read the lost world

>>7733294
This is currently the top post on r/books right now, nice try leddit

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>>7733363

you know where you can fuck off back to