Any good book recommendations. I want something to make me feel human. The Humans by Matt Haig did well.
Go back to redd1t.
Matt Haig is shit-tier.
>>7733092
there is nothing wrong with reddit. just ignore the posts you don't want to read
>>7733103
While I'm tired of the reddit bogeyman bullshit, reddit itself is stifling to discussion. Power tripping moderators and sitewide autobans don't do anything but shut out people with dissenting opinions who have no interest in sucking moderator Johnson.
Do you have a reading duck?
Are you happy with it?
>>7733043
What's a reading duck?
>>7733043
I do and yes, we are very happy together.
>>7733043
Yes. Mine stopped defecating years ago, but I wouldn't part with it for any reason.
Hey /lit/,
Anyone know any books on Jungian/psychoanalytic interpretation of Greek mythology? I'm looking specifically for stuff in relation to the odyssey, and the archetypes that underlie the gods and their actions.
pic unrelated
>>7733041
Tumblr would be your best bet for finding this. If you're interested in forcing fake 'science' into great literature that's where you should be. I swear that in the last few years every wannabe university reader latches on to wikipedia articles about Jung instead of reading legitimate work.
>>7733333
K dude
Nice quints
>>7733041
Try a Library.
Where can I find a plot summary for this?
I had a bit of trouble realizing what exactly happened in chapter 7.
It's been a while ... for my memory the chapter is pretty complex but the jist of it is political unrest, an attempted art theft, and Papa Stencil's hearing of Vheissu from Old Man Godolphin and meeting Victoria Wren.
Does that help at all? Any questions in specific?
>>7733003
Yeah that's what I figured out to be the general idea of the chapter.. But I don't know, it just feels very vague like I missed a lot of important stuff. I was just wondering if there's some kind of chapter by chapter plot summary that's more than 2 lines long, because I'm reading Mondaugen's Story (chapter 10) right now and I get the same feeling as chapter 7.
>>7733049
No, not that I know of. The thing of Pynchon is you ARE missing something and you SHOULD be and isn't it GREAT that you are.
Mondaugen's chapter is brilliant, one of Pynchon's best pieces of writing by far, so take it slow. If you don't catch the specifics of Bongo Shaftsbury's story or the Venus heist, that's fine, but Mondaugen's part should be read slowly and deeply imo
Where is the literature which gives a voice or details the life of the lower-middle class or lower class citizens who are caught in a tragic disintegration of reality - as the imperative to both enjoy and self-realize leads them to immerse themself fully in degenerated infantile fantasies?
hover hand.
>>7732934
Literally the most reviled caste of people in our society. Writing about folks such as us is not only unpublishable, but wouldn't even pass as an ironic critic of society, but would just drown the reader in disgust and hatred.
>>7732942
Seems than that it holds some subversive potential and the potentiality for exploring the unknown beauty of the forgotten folks.
>Deadline is March 22nd
>Tons of work to do
>I feel completely uninspired and have no impetus
how do you force yourself to write when you arent 'feeling it'?
>>7732889
The shining
>>7732889
The Shiningj
My birthday is on March 22nd
If you get very close to the deadline panic will probably set in and do the motivating
>One time Matt told Andrew to deliver a pizza with his hat sideways, shirt untucked, belt unbuckled; and gave him a bike chain to wear around his neck. Andrew did it. The man came to the door, terrified. Andrew felt abstract and out-of-control. It took a long time because it was a large order, with Buffalo wings and extra bleu cheese. The man’s face turned red and neither of them spoke, even when Andrew dropped a container of bleu cheese and they both watched it fall into a little hole in the concrete. It was difficult to get the bleu cheese out because it fit almost perfectly in the strange hole. “What happened,” Matt said. “The person was afraid of me,” Andrew said. “You’re a good worker,” Matt said. ''For you'' Andrew answered.
What did he mean by this?
>>7732750
Is that an actual Tao Lin passage? Goddamn this guy sucks.
>>7732750
I'm new and even I can understand how ass this is
Father dubs please fuck off and stop Taoposting.
So, did Williams capture the genuine nature DFW could only hope to reach?
He was a good musician
>>7732758
Binary sunset is the greatest leitmotif of all time. Thank god he stopped writing boring misogynistic power fantasies.
>>7732764
lit, where do I start if I want to learn how to write? Broad strokes, from the bottom, how to write. Aiming for science fiction.
I've tried to write three books now, I stopped writing the first one because what I wanted to do was too complicated, and I needed more experience with a simpler story. The second book I started writing also turned out to be too complicated for me to write, even though it only had three characters and was mostly monologue and one-on-one dialog. The third book I've just given up on because I've reduced my scope to two people walking down a road and I still have no idea what I'm doing. I don't know how to write, which hurts because now I'm up to my neck in unwritten ideas and characters and events and all sorts of miscellaneous thoughts I just want to get out on paper.
>>7732671
see, your problem anon, just like 99% of the rest of the world is that you're probably thinking about the end goal right now, where you're a published author and you get showered with praise and pussy.
ain't gon be like that son
my advice to you. If you have any narcissistic, wishy-washy dreams like this about success from writing, get them the fuck out of your system. Get a real job, and start writing seriously every day, using it as a way to excise whatever thoughts and ideas you have pent up inside of your head. Good writers aren't "taught" in their MFA programs. They just produce little memey faggots like tao-lin and his cuck-crew. Let yourself sink into life. If you never stop writing, in the worst case you won't "make it" in any conventional sense, but you will have lived a good, valuable life. Good luck bruv.
i think Elements of Fiction Writing - Conflict and Suspense by James Bell is the book you should read. i got mine from bookzz.org
Sounds like you're not really planning anything out OP, if you're beginning books and then abandoning them as too complicated. You're not going to write a novel (at least not one worth writing) by just stringing sentences together and trusting in your instinct that it's going in the right direction. Start with a skeletal structure of your themes/plot/whatever the point of your book is. Fill in chapter by chapter how you intend to build it. Then think about drafting the actual prose, but be aware that things will change and there will be editing and re-editing. That's how writing works.
Even a practised hack like GRRM, who was very successful at just stringing events together for a long time - and did actually have a plan - eventually came unstuck and sank into a mire of writer's block because his plan wasn't robust enough and he relied too much on improvisation to get him where he was going.
Look, I fucking love this book but can we give it a rest already?
Every post on this shitty ass board that has to do with Ullyses is some moron blanket statementing that it's the greatest piece of shit ever farted and nobody has ever or will ever understand anything about it; or the same poster immediately writing a bait post stating the opposite.
Finnegan's Wake is more Ulysses than Ulysses anyway, but that's never mentioned because it isn't part of college curriculum.
Seriously, I bet most of you can't even name a theme outside of 'Kekkolding' or 'Irish'
>>7732479
>every post
no. not every post, Anon.
I vaguely remember a museum tour.
I couldn't agree more!
I've posted my thoughts on Joyce's best work elsewhere but, as you're a fan, I'll reproduce them here:
"I find that each chapter of Finnegans Wake can be taken alone as a canto.
In fact, in conversation with friends (usually over espresso), I prefer to refer to Finnegans wake as "The Cantos of Jim Joyce".
"Jim" because I feel that I've developed something of a bond with the bespectacled Irishman. You see, on my mother's side we're Irish. Imagine what it would be like having a mustache like his. I close my eyes and, when I concentrate, I can feel the tickle of whiskers, like a trace of pepper caught in the steam rising off of my grandmother's mashed potatoes-- caught, drawn in by my breath to rest just inside my left nostril and sending my nose into a nervous little wiggle."
Thoughts?
>>7732518
His five hundred wives
May have had the times of their lives
But no number of women could bear
The smell your post brings to the air
Do I need to read all the dialogues, or can I just read the republic?
>>7732371
start with the Greeks
>>7732384
That does not answer my question...
>>7732371
Dude, you can do whatever you want. What do you want out of Plato? To say "I've read him", or what?
Is his short work or novels worth reading? Or is he just some crazy guy that people who are into magic pretend is good. I know Nick Land likes him, not sure why though.
>>7732362
>guy helped create scientology
well, OP, what do you think, really?
>>7732386
Uncle Fester helped create Scientology?
>>7732362
i'd like to hear more thoughts on this too bc i know a lot of the modernists were really into the occult stuff like anthroposophy/theosophy/etc. the only examples i have are andrei bely and ts eliot, but joyce referenced the theosophists in ulysses too
What if all of classical music is just making a joke out of the ego's problems? all sad music is sarcastically sad, and all jovial music is just sarcastically happy. Imagine one giant creepy dude playing all of your music that you love but playing it with a giant grin on his face. Don't take it as a depressing thought, you're supposed to laugh at your humanity. It's like the AI that looks past at itself. Once you've realized this thought, imagine that you feel depressed at this thought itself and then you decide to play music that expresses your depression of this thought but that music you create is also sarcastically "depressive-knowing-this-thought." Your philosophy is one of trvializing. Yeah I'm talking to you post-modern society. You're the guy who sits in the back of the theater of human emotions who just yells "DUDE EMOTIONS LMAO, DUDE NARATIVE STRUCTURE, DUDE WEED, DUDE LSD, DUDE DEADPOOL LMAO, PEOPLE ACTUALLY FIND THAT FUNNY? AHAHA PLEBS." Post-modernism is a guy who just sits in the backroun trivializing all human conceptions, the narrative structure, philosophy itself, film, games, etc. Post-modernism is just one giant edgy neckbeard with glasses on. Fucking lmao.
Here you go post-modern society. I just gave you your ego. You're looking at him. Pic related.
Youtube series coming soon. Expect me. Await me. Kek. Or are you supposed to take all of what I just said as sarcasm as well?
ah fuck off.
dude postmodeernism is fucking gay you can just shit on a canvas and call it art >_>
I find that each chapter of Finnegans Wake can be taken alone as a canto.
In fact, in conversation with friends (usually over espresso), I prefer to refer to Finnegans wake as "The Cantos of Jim Joyce".
"Jim" because I feel that I've developed something of a bond with the bespectacled Irishman. You see, on my mother's side we're Irish. Imagine what it would be like having a mustache like his. I close my eyes and, when I concentrate, I can feel the tickle of whiskers, like a trace of pepper caught in the steam rising off of my grandmother's mashed potatoes-- caught, drawn in by my breath to rest just inside my left nostril and sending my nose into a nervous little wiggle.
>>7732260
Every time I discuss this idea with friends I'm told it's schizoid to think so. I played music for years with these people until I realized their art only served to manipulate the emotions and well being of others and themselves. I am still deeply interested in music though-- my resolve has since heen to tune the guitar to whatever I like and pull music out of the air. I had anxieties before about not being able to play the same sound twice but that spook got rekt eventually.
>tfw I feel like everything I want to write about has been written about
>tfw I want to find a way to write a politically/philosophically original novel when every idea has been beaten with a stick over and over
Maybe I'll write a dystopian novel about equa- Harrison Bergeron.
That's okay because I can still write a novel and a totalitarian sta- 1984.
No, I'm fine. I can neatly intertwine romance with politics in a- Great Gatsby.
I feel like if I write anything it would be relegated to the young adult romance genre because the only original thing I can think of is a setting.
What are your writer's block feels /lit/?
i've been struggling with writer's block for a little bit but i've started reading again and i find that the more i read the more ideas i get and finally the urge to write grows larger than my writer's block and i manage to churn out something interesting, or at least something i think is interesting. don't really worry if something's been "done before" at first and just write what you want
it's about execution not originality ya goof
>writing dystopias
>2016
So, /lit/, is this the great literary critic of our time. Moreover, is he the last of us to deserve the moniker "Renaissance Man?"
who dat
>>7732012
George Steiner, you philistine.
>>7732007
>Greatest literary critic of our time
>Fails to post a picture of papa bloom.