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I'm in college right now and I'm more of a math guy than a Language Arts/English one.

I want to ask how to get good at writing essays, everything I write is so cringe-worthy, gay and stupid.
I don't read so much on my free time so that might be why.

I know in art you usually imitate the artists or photos to get gud, is it the same with writing? Do I just need to copy down some sections of a good book or essay and will the rest come naturally?
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>>7842899
>I don't read so much
>that might be why.

you are a genius, no need to learn how to write
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tackle your papers like equations
structure them befor putting them into prose
make sure every paragraph and sentence has a purpose in

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Post comfy philosophers, lads.
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eastern champion coming through
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8. The Art of Life

Yen-Ping-Chung asked Kuan-Yi-Wu as to cherishing life.

Kuan-Yi-Wu replied: “It suffices to give it its free course, neither checking nor obstructing it.”

Yen-Ping-Chung said: “And as to details?”

Kuan-Yi-Wu replied: “Allow the ear to hear what it likes, the eye to see what it likes, the nose to smell what it likes, the mouth to say what it likes, the body to enjoy the comforts it likes to have, and the mind to do what it likes.

“Now what the ear likes to hear is music, and the prohibition of it is what I call obstruction to the ear.

“What the eye likes to look at is beauty; and its not being permitted to regard this beauty I call obstruction of sight.

“What the nose likes to smell is perfume; and its not being permitted to smell I call obstruction to scent.

“What the mouth likes to talk about is right and wrong; and if it is not permitted to speak I call it obstruction of the understanding.

“The comforts the body enjoys to have are rich food and fine clothing; and if it is not permitted, then I call that obstruction of the senses of the body.

“What the mind likes is to be at peace; and its not being permitted rest I call obstruction of the mind's nature.

“All these obstructions are a source of the most painful vexation.

“Morbidly to cultivate this cause of vexation, unable to get rid of it, and so have a long but very sad life of a hundred, a thousand, or ten thousand years, is not what I call cherishing life.

“But to check this source of obstruction and with calm enjoyment to await death for a day, a month, or a year or ten years, is what I understand by enjoying life.”

Kuan-Yi-Wu said: “Since I have told you about cherishing life, please tell me how it is with the burial of the dead.”

Yen-Ping-Chung said: “Burying the dead is but of very little importance. What shall I tell you about it?”

Kuan-Yi-Wu replied: “I really wish to hear it.”

Yen-Ping-Chung answered: “What can I do when I am dead? They may burn my body, or cast it into deep water, or inter it, or leave it uninterred, or throw it wrapped up in a mat into some ditch, or cover it with princely apparel and embroidered garments and rest it in a stone sarcophagus. All that depends on mere chance.”

Kuan-Yi-Wu looked round at Pao-Shu-huang-tse and said to him: “Both of us have made some progress in the doctrine of life and death.”
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>>7842645
Seneca

"Disaster is Virtue's opportunity. Justly may those be termed unhappy who are dulled by an excess of good fortune, who rest, as it were, in dead calm upon a quiet sea; whatever happens will come to them as a change."

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why cant humans face facts straight in the face but need to make stories about it? is it to cope with their feeling of impotency about them?
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>>7842419
complete conjecture but i think its just how we process information

we think in events along a timescale, and we describe events and objects in a certain context, describing the details needed for understanding the events occurring with the objects, then describing what they do, then saying why it might matter. exposition, conflict, resolution.

"me and oog were out west from here, hunting for mammoth. while we were there, we were attacked by a leopard, and it appeared to come from the north. do not go into that area until we can get more men next week when za's party comes back."

we then apply this to just about everything, including atoms and shit. i dunno.
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>>7842419
telling stories is how we practice for real life
it lets us consider emotions, think about what we would do in certain situations etc

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Let's build a writing class.

>Read 1 poem (memorize it), 1 essay, 1 short story every day/night.
>Write 1 short story (finish it) a week.

What else?
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>>7842184
Don't tell me what to do, fucking faggot
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WRITE A PULP NOVEL A DAY
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>read
>write
>read more
>repeat
the end

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I saw this article from the AV club posted on facebook and kind of got triggered. Why do people pretend that Dune is deep or complex? It's really not more complex than Star Wars or Lord of the Rings at all, thematically or plot-wise yet this nigger and popular opinion seems to claim so

>For all that the book is in terms of its influence and acclaim, Dune has the plot structure density of a supermassive black hole. Yes, Star Wars tells a better visual story (for the most part), but taking into account the kind of detailed, non-cursory perspective of every character, setting, background, and thematic narrative down to the subatomic level would make seven films work just as an introduction piece if there was any hope of giving any semblance of justice to the depth of Herbert’s book. The simple fact is that in its own strange way, a film’s inability to capture the enormity and grandeur of a book is less a criticism of the filmmaker and more a testament to the book’s incalculable brilliance.

http://www.avclub.com/article/dune-cant-capture-novels-incalculable-brilliance-233858

literally why?
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Atlas Shrugged
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> Star Wars tells a better visual story
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>Muh genre fiction sucks

This is a spook.

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What do I need to learn to become a very persuasive writer?
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How to write persuasively.
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>>7841658
Rhetoric.

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ITT: Book Collections

hey /lit/, don't think I've ever seen a thread like this before and I think you guys would have fun with it.

my uni is hosting a contest for book collecting next year with a cash prize hopefully large enough to justify the creation of a collection in the first place, but my current bookcase is pretty random, basically just /lit/core and similar. I'm willing to lay down a good amount of money to start a collection from scratch, but am also pretty scarce on ideas (was considering doing one about the infrarealists, Bolano's OG poetry group), so post premises for (or content of) a book collection you'd like to have given time/resources, shit on anons spheres of interest, you know the deal
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>>7841631
do bootleg copies of things or censored East German novels
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>>7841631
I collect anything I can get my hands on. My area has a place that without fail, every weekend, exclusively sells 1 dollar books, no matter the subject or text

that's how I got copies of Pynchon, Bolano, Plato, Woolf, to more obscure shit like Juan Goytisolo

in particular I focus on collecting surrealist and modernist novels.

Lately i've been grabbing up and really interested in Christian theology. Anselm, Augustine, etc. Of course I've got the more popular guys and am yet to snag the more rare ones

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What is /lit/ think of it?
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gurdjeiff is like an insufferable hippy but from like before hippies were a thing
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Started it but got burnt out. Remember sort of enjoying it though. Been meaning to come back to it for ages.

Pretty useless post really.

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Which book has your favorite written dialogue of all time?

Pic related has been one of my favorite books for a long while, every time I read it I am so engrossed and excited by Griffin's electrifying, passionate monologues that I'm practically glued to pages that I've already read countless times. There's such a fiery rythym and contentious passion in his monologues as he's explaining to Kemp how he came to be invisible. It's entrancing.
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I can't contribute. But that book is very good.
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Haven't read that since third grade. Guess it's time to read it again.

Can you write a better haiku?

http:/en.rocketnews24.com/2016/03/20/winning-poems-from-otaku-haiku-contest-are-hilarious-but-also-hit-way-too-close-to-home/
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a post, my waifu
a pose lascivious and lewd
"delete this!", I cry
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>>7841063
8/10

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How reliable are they /lit/, would you trust them, to check your paper?
pic not related
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>>7840128
As long as you use the same one your school uses.
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>>7840133
I used the one the school uses, and it shows my stories are plagiarist, While the one I always says no plagiarism detected

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So guys, I think I'm missing something. I just don't understand everything I read, I sit down I take in the words on the page, I even reflect on what happened chapter by chapter but I can't seem to understand it. I just read fahrenheit 451, which is the reason I'm here right now, when Guy says that he doesn't understand, that there just words on a page, it made me realize that that's how I've been reading forever now. Maybe I'm just being an idiot or maybe it's because I haven't read enough but I honestly don't see anything outside of the text unless it's explained to me. Which sucks since part of the reason people read is to make their own assumptions from evidence throughout the book isn't it?
TL;DR any advice for someone who's having trouble understanding literature but wants to get into it? Pic only slightly related
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Keep reading. Read something easy and read shmoop chapter summaries and analyses as you read. Understand how they reach those conclusions. Continue that, then start trying to analyze yourself. Keep it up. You'll get better with practice.
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A well-written book makes you understand what you're suppose to. In this case, it's not that you don't understand Fahrenheit 451, it's that it only made communicable sense in fractions. Which follows, because it was speedwritten in 9 days on a typewriter.

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This anon is retarded, ignore him.

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Anyone know of any good secondary literature to Homer that might grant some insight into the poems?
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/r/ing this but for virgil
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>>7839943
Cambridge Companion to Homer, on Bookzz.

There was one of.those meme chart for starting with the greeks that included some secondary sources on the Homeric epics. Have a look at that too.

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does anyone on here even know about simplicissimus?

Its a great, weird, brutal, honest and funny story, written a few hundred years ago.

are there even translations from german? has anyone read both the english and german version? how horrible is the english translation?
do you think that its the best book of the 17th century?

ive never even met anyone that knew this book.
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>>7839790
Know about it? Sure, but haven't read.
>are there even translations from german?
Of course

If you feel there's something strange about it being so unknown I can't explain it but what other long stories from the 17th c do you know about?
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>>7839839
I am not studying literature or anything I just picked it up in the libary one day.

It just seemed so obscure and kind of like a hidden book.

it would also be cool to know how they translated "Knan" and the other weird words.

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Do i need anything other than Heidegger, Lacan and Set Theory before trudging through this?
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A delusional belief in the intellectual value of this sort of academic text is required.
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>>7839736
:^

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