What did DFW (David Foster Wallace) 'write out' for Franzen around the 11:50 mark?
Me, I think it was the cover for the twentieth anniversary edition of The Infinite Jest
>>7844431
>leaving no video link
>spelling out dfw
wtf
>>7844431
enlighten me
>>7844431
"There will be a thread on /lit/ about this note in 20 years"
I`m looking for some book or short history about people struggling to find food but I don`t want some post apocalypse shit. Suggestions?
>>7844326
>history
The Great Depression, I guess.
>>7844326
Grapes of Wrath
Hunger by Knut Hamsun is a novel about a poorfag /lit/-tier guy who pretends to be not starving at all because it's such a plebby thing to do. And his denial has it's ups and downs.
Is learning Latin worth it?
>>7844259
No. Wish I'd taken French, Spanish, German, Japanese or Mandarin.
>worth
worth more than posting on 4skins
Any of you read The Dying Earth series by Jack Vance? I hear a lot of good things about it. Some people go as far as to say it's one of their favorite books. But I read the opening and it just seems absolutely uninteresting. What's so good about the series? How is it distinguishable from all the pre-new wave sci-fi crap that was published?
>>7843836
haven't read it, but:
- not all pre-new wave sci-fi is crap, and
- a lot of new wave/post-new wave sci-fi is crap, and
- 90% of sci-fi is crap anyway
>>7843836
Its a collection of tales, so it builds a world up very slowly with a mythic/folk tale feel. The earth is dying and there are all these ruins and stories half buried. That's what I see in it. I think other people like the rogue character who has a few stories, or are fantasy geeks in general. It's not really comparable to scifi new wave or not, it can be compared to or be classified as sword and sorcery
I love 'Eyes of the Overworld' and 'Cudgel's Saga' but Rhialto just bored me to tears.
Working on a comparative essay between The Virgin Suicides as a novel compared to the movie. I can't think of a thesis statement, though. Any help is appreciated.
/lit/ is for the discussion of literature... for all homework enquiries, ask /hm/, the homework board...
>>>/hm/
>>7843700
underrated post
Anyone have any good books or resources on cognitive behavioural therapy and how to implement it? Preferably but not necessarily with a focus on addiction?
Cognitive-Behavioral Treatment of Borderline Personality Disorder by Marsha Linehan
plus the skills training manuals and the worksheets
but you should be doing CBT with a licensed therapist and they should give you worksheets, you can't really do it by yourself from reading a book
>>7843683
Are you sure because I really want to try it myself?
>>7844318
For what purpose?
I'm currently starting to write a short story based on a passer by's view of Travis Bickle and his carousing around grimy New York based from the film Taxi Driver. I'm sorta keen on this... how bad can this be though lbr
>>7843537
very bad
>>7843537
Fan fiction gets a bad rap for obvious reasons. That being said, write away, practicing one's craft is good.
The Borges who appears in the works Borges, just acts as Borges, but isn't Borges, although in reality he is Borges.
Let's discuss this thought /lit/
Only that one does not believe in the other so they differ in time.
>>7843441
Could you please elaborate? Also, what short story are you talking about?
dude like what if there was an infinite library lmao -takes another puff-
Is it depressing to read Schopenhauer and Nietzsche?
>>7843324
Schopenhauer maybe.
I find Nietzsche empowering more than anything.
>>7843324
I dont think reading any book can be depressing. Its only depressing if you agree with the depressing message in it, and even then not always
No. It makes you smug. Schopenhauer is more depressing than Nietzsche though.
Hey /lit/, I’ve got a project I’m working on for myself and after having a few other people express an interest in it, I’d figure I’d extend the invitation to you guys. I’d especially love your input, as though I may be considered well-read by the general public, I’m pleb-tier compared to all of you.
The project is this: I’m trying to put together a “Bible” so to speak, comprised of literature from the Western tradition. When I say Bible, I don’t mean the texts must be Christian or anything explicitly religious, though being such would not exclude anything. I mean I wish to compile a large sized book with small print, in physical form, leather bound that I can take with me physically, as Christians do their Bibles. Essentially, a physical collection of spiritual wisdom I can keep away from the computer and other electronics.
I’m looking for ideas of what would be most essential to include in this home-made Bible of sorts. Ideally, I intend to cover a lot of ground (history, poetry, philosophy, proverbs, songs) and need to boil down just which works I’m going to include. I will mostly be limiting this to the Western canon, and mostly works of English, French, German, Latin, and Greek authors. However, exceptions are most certainly welcome.
One final caveat: since books of the Bible were necessarily shorter than novels, I cannot include many works of that length. As for my own ideas, I intend to include parts of Aristotle’s Nichomachean Ethics and Rhetoric, Plotinus’ Enneads, certain poems by William Blake, Excerpts from Nietzsche and Heidegger, Emerson’s Walden, and a few other lesser known essays from blogs that I’ve found particularly moving.
Well /lit/, what would you include?
>>7843323
The amount of replies you have shows how much anyone on here really knows
>>7843411
Haha, that could very well be the case. I'll take the blame for this one for leaving essentially a Great Wall of text.
>>7843323
> though I may be considered well-read by the general public, I’m pleb-tier compared to all of you.
I'm sorry anon, but I think we must be familiar with different /lit/'s. Nobody on here actually knows how to read.
As for what I would include... I'm not entirely sure, although I have thought about doing something like this before. There would be a few short stories, and some poems, and excerpts from philosophical texts, but the main thing I read is novels, and particularly large ones at that. They tend to be the holders of passages that affect me the most, and so a lot of "books" in my "bible" would probably be excerpts from them. (from Within a Budding Grove) Elstir's talk to Marcel on the repudiation of past selves or Shimamura's watching of the 'couple' on the train in Snow Country are examples that come to mind.
You say you'd avoid long novels, but plenty of novels have one or more sequences in particular that're concentrated droplets of the things the novel encompasses.
I do still quite like the idea of this. I know some people collect passages in notebooks or on their computer or else have bookmarks always in, but something like this strikes me as a different level of respect for these writings.
Post Art, recommend books based on that art.
What would you consider essential utilitarian literature?
>utilitarian
>>7843273
Fate/stay night
>>7843273
pic related
Anyone else have the feeling after reading John Fante that other authors write overcomplicated? Or is it just that I prefer a barebones writing style? Or is it just that I am pleb?
You're grasping in the dark due to your inexperience regarding stylistics.
>>7843261
Read Proust.
>Wake up, Finnegan
What did he mean by this?
>>7843088
Either read it while you're drunk or read it while imagining you're an Irish drunk. You still won't understand it, but it makes it more fun at least.
>>7843088
Whiskey, the Water of Life, resurrecting.
Which translation of Ovid's Metamorphosis is best suited to a first time reader?
I like Ted Hughes' translation. It's not a complete translation though.
I just finished it, and had a pretty good time with the A.D. Melville translation -- the only annoying bit was endnotes rather than footnotes (but they tended to have pretty good stuff in them, e.g. explanations of brilliant wordplay that cannot be translated)
other than that, I'm pretty sure the Mandelbaum is highly acclaimed, and he did a good job with Dante too. He'd have been my go-to if I didn't like the Melville excerpt I read so much
I'd recommend the Melville too. He manages to keep it somewhat poetic but still readable