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/lit/, what's your opinion on him?
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>/lit/, what's your opinion on him?
I love him. I've been trying to copy him in building languages and so on but I'm not knowledgeable or creative enough.
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>>7994575
Madlibs a foreign language grammar/vocab book
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>>7994528
I just want him to be my grandfather and read me stuff.

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Hey /lit/faggots im writing a letter to my friend in the Navy, tell me what to write him. Hes sort of an autistic robot who played video games all day and kept getting fired from his job.

Dear swine..
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>>8000959
navy seal copypasta
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>>8000959
Hey bitch, how you doing? I hope you don't get fired this time. Lol, if you know what I mean. "fired", get it? you know, they have gun and shit in the navy. ok. My anus miss you too. Cum home soon, my love.

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is this book worth reading mates? if not any recommendations of good sad/thriller/suspense books?
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if you read that, you will come back as a tampon in your next life
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>>8000563

No, and I resent that her last name is similar to W.G. Sebald's so his books have to suffer being next to this piece of shit.
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>>8000563
I didn't read it but my sister told me about it long ago.

It's nothing special.

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Im probably going to transfer schools after this gap year I've taken. Anyone have any thoughts or opinions on pic related? The school i go to currently is ranked much higher than this place but does it really matter? Seems alright
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>>8000463
/lit/ - literature
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>>8000496
This is a lifestyle board now didnt you get the memo?
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>>8000463
Where do you go to school now? You need to factor in cost of living to the equation.

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What's the difference between a literary text and a non-literary text?
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stupid distinction, bad question
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stupid question, bad distinction
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>>8000441
dumb frogposter

can anyone reccomend me essays or books on the culture of or the effects of technology and the internet /social media age?

i really enjyoed parts of dfw's e unibus pluram analyzing the culture of the 1990's, the use of irony in popular culture, and the effects of television on the masses - but i'm interested in somehting more contemporary, and more pointedly critical. dfw's essay is pretty free form and its attention is divided between culture and US fiction

already read ellul and zerzan too
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I know a certain Byung-Chul Han has written some stuff related to this, but it might be crap.
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>>7999310
Deetz?
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>>7999918
full name?

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Im thinking on picking up Adam Smiths
The Wealth of Nations..
My friend has the Oxford university press edition
should i give that version a read?
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>>7998792
Check if it's the full text. I know modern library offers the unabridged version for about $15.
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>>7998816
this version has 688 pages
the unabridged version has around 1,100 pages?
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>>7998828
Shit man, how do you fill that many pages with 'specialisation is efficient'?

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so, /lit/, lemme get this straight:

harold bloom (and half of /lit/) thinks david foster wallace is shit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Bloom#Reception.2C_criticism_and_controversy)
bloom thinks new criticism is shit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_canon#The_debate)
dfw thinks new criticism is shit (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/03/on-fredric-jameson/)

eagleton thinks bloom is shit (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2000/aug/20/classics)
eagleton, zizek, and jameson are critbros (https://newleftreview.org/II/59/terry-eagleton-jameson-and-form)

militant social justice warriors think all of the above are shit
everyone else thinks militant social justice is shit

and analytic philosophers are laughing they're asses off
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Hold on, let me get this straight:

People have opinions?

What the actual fuck is going on
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How can Bloom be against New Criticism?
New Criticism is one of the only ways through which the canon continues to be talked about
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>DFW cites Fredric Jameson by name as one of a group of critics whose English is "appalling"
>"pompous, abstruse, claustral, inflated, euphuistic, pleonastic, solecistic, sesquipidelian, Heliogabaline, occluded, obscure, jargon-ridden, empty: resplendently dead.”
I bet DFW could not have written this with a straight face. he was either smugpepe or wincing.

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Can we get some 80s-core /lit/?
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wtf happened to breifcases sss sss. like seriously. I've never seen something that was around for so goddamn long just disappear in the blink of an eye.
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>>7996740
virgin detected lmao

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How can we make /lit/ great again, my fellow posters? Some suggestions:

>a lenghty guide to translations, from homer to dostoevsky
>update the wiki or change the wiki
>fewer dfw, pynchon, bolaño or whatever meme author threads
>more non-anglophone literature discussion
>ban "i started this book today, what do you think of it /lit/" posters
>ban frogposters
>ban butterfly
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>>7996711
Goodbye, Rato
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I think we should start a curriculum that isn't necessarily to be followed in a fixed amount of time or fixed chronology of texts, but instead groups of texts that consist of novels, poetry, essays, theory, philosophy and nonfiction, etc... that come from all backgrounds to provide for a wider read lit. It would take a group effort to design and perfect but i'm willing to try
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>>7996737
and of course in turn each "group" that is created could be made into individual posts for years to come for discussion. Does this make sense?

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Is it just me or are some of Nietzsche's arguments *really* fucking facile?

Check this shit:

> If self defence is in general held a valid justification, then nearly every manifestation of so called immoral egoism must be justified, too. Pain is inflicted, robbery or killing done in order to maintain life or to protect oneself and ward off harm. A man lies when cunning and delusion are valid means of self preservation. To injure intentionally when our safety and our existence are involved, or the continuance of our well being, is conceded to be moral. The state itself injures from this motive when it hangs criminals. In unintentional injury the immoral, of course, can not be present, as accident alone is involved. But is there any sort of intentional injury in which our existence and the maintenance of our well being be not involved?[129] Is there such a thing as injuring from absolute badness, for example, in the case of cruelty? If a man does not know what pain an act occasions, that act is not one of wickedness. Thus the child is not bad to the animal, not evil. It disturbs and rends it as if it were one of its playthings. Does a man ever fully know how much pain an act may cause another? As far as our nervous system extends, we shield ourselves from pain. If it extended further, that is, to our fellow men, we would never cause anyone else any pain (except in such cases as we cause it to ourselves, when we cut ourselves, surgically, to heal our ills, or strive and trouble ourselves to gain health). We conclude from analogy that something pains somebody and can in consequence, through recollection and the power of imagination, feel pain also. But what a difference there always is between the tooth ache and the pain (sympathy) that the spectacle of tooth ache occasions! Therefore when injury is inflicted from so called badness the degree of pain thereby experienced is always unknown to us: in so far, however, as pleasure is felt in the act (a sense of one's own power, of one's own excitation) the act is committed to maintain the well being of the individual and hence comes under the purview of self defence and lying for self preservation. Without pleasure, there is no[130] life; the struggle for pleasure is the struggle for life.

I don't see how you can wriggle out of this argument being shit by saying I've 'misinterpreted' or 'misread' him.

His point stands alone with out any need for prior reading, and it sucks.

He's basically saying:

We can't know how much pain we're causing people unless we share their nervous system, so when somebody attacks someone else they're exempt from guilt because they don't know wtf they did.

This is just such outrageous reaching, I can't even.
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>I don't see how you can wriggle out of this argument being shit by saying I've 'misinterpreted' or 'misread' him.

But you have absolutely misinterpreted and misread him. At one point is this passage talking about guilt? To say that an act is not one of wickedness is not the same as saying that act is permissible.
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>>7995992
If harming somebody in self defense is morally justifiable, then many things considered immoral becomes morally justifiable.

If harming somebody innocently/accidently is morally justifiable, then many things considered immoral becomes morally justifiable.
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>>7995992

In general, the people Nietzsche is responding to believe the act of causing pain, injury, or death to be immoral so long as the act
a. is intentional -- exempli gratia, you are not at fault if somebody dives in front of your car and paints the pavement.
b. is understood to be causing harm -- if you play a game of football and kick around the ball, but later learn that the ball was filled with small, fluffy animals, you have not done anything wrong, as you didn't know what was in the ball.
c. is not intended to do good -- if a surgeon breaks your ribcage and rips out your organs, you are caused severe injury and pain and are at a significant risk of death, but generally, these procedures are done for your eventual benefit.
Nietzsche takes it for granted that, if an individual harms another to save himself from pain, injury, or death, then he has not committed evil, even if he causes more harm to another than he prevents in himself. If a victim cripples her rapist or murders his torturer, it would be argued, she or he has done nothing wrong, even though more harm has been done than would likely be done otherwise.

His response, then, stems from a number of observations:
1. We always learn that others feel pain, die, etcetera by analogy. We feel pain ourselves, and we in turn assume that when others exhibit the same symptoms that we do when we are in pain, that they feel pain as well. Nietzsche conjures the image of a child who tortures an animal but does not understand that the animal is in distress. Is the child at fault if it can't identify the symptoms of distress in a species that isn't even its own? Of course not! The child hasn't even been taught. Imagine a more colourful example: a creature that exhibits pain and terror by laughing uproariously and stating in plain English it's absolute pleasure, and which is driven to agony whenever fed chocolate and given sexual favours. How could you be at fault for torturing this creature if every bit of information you have learned about it informed you that it felt the opposite of pain?
2. Extending this somewhat, the child itself experiences a great deal of pleasure from tormenting a kitten, and you would feel a sense of pride and charitableness at torturing the faux-masochist. There is no biological reason at all for you to believe that you are inflicting pain.\
3. Humans have a capacity for sympathy. That is, when another individual feels pain, we feel pain also. However, we, as far as seems reasonable, don't feel as much pain as they do. Since we cannot be certain of how painful their injury is any more than a very young child can gauge the degree of a kitten's pain from the loudness and intensity of its screeches, we cannot be at fault when we misjudge the application of pain against the weighted benefit.
(1/2 Cont . . .)

What novels have suicide in them? How do different authors deal with the topic? What's your favourite way the topic is dealt with?
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the quintessential suicide novel would probably be Werther
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It really depends on what you're looking for. If you're just beginning to look into the subject, I think you should start by reading the book Notes on Suicide by Simon Critchley because he explains a number of different perspectives on suicide ranging from Christian to Buddhist to Philosophical and everything in between and lays out each of their arguments thoroughly so you can come to a conclusion on your own.

Personally, I like the writing of Camus on the subject, starting with Myth of Sisyphus and then reading his novels (especially The Fall and The Outsider). Quite a few great writers on suicide are in pic related and I definitely suggest reading Cioran, Miller, and Williams.
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I love Frobisher in Cloud Atlas. I am a big fan of Cloud Atlas and I herald it as a masterpiece.

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Why was he so based, /lit/?
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>>7997966
>refuse empiricism
>based
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>disproved and embarrassed by Sam harris
>based
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>disproved and embarrassed by John Stuart Mill
>based

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I like to describe this book with all my anonymous /lit/ brainiacts.
I love this board.
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the book is okay, definitely not the best book I've ever read about a traveling salesman who transforms into a giant bug and gets apples chucked at him
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Gregor was a dung beetle.
The cleaning lady called out for Gregor and called him a dung beetle. I'm thinking fermentation because the book was published in Germany translated to other languages.
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>>7997621
By his own father.
The mother loves him by the sister doesn't althought she cleaned the room his was in for some time.

Hey /lit/, I am writing a paper on the validity of synthetic, a priori principles. Most of what I know comes from Kant's "Critique of Pure Reason" and "Prolegomena."

I critique Kants' proofs from a logical viewpoint; mainly via the framework used in Oliver A. Johnson's "Denial of the Synthetic, A Priori."

I will need to field questions from my class and then in a one-on-one with my professor. I was hoping some of you well-versed in the subject could toss up possible problems/challenges/interesting implications/general discussion regarding my argument or the topic/philosophical works in general.

I will update the string of my argument in separate posts, accompanied with the diagrams/proofs I'll be writing on the board during my presentation.
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Does reading exist? Where is reading?

It's about the same question.
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Part I: Kant's Synthetic A Priori

We should begin with what Kant considers a ‘judgment.’

- Judgment: “I think [subject + predicate]” = A statement or assertion

RE: ‘I think' ...

"The ‘I think’ must have the ability to accompany all my representations; for otherwise something would be represented in me that could not be thought at all, which is as much as to say that the representation would either be impossible or at least would be nothing to me (Transcendental Deduction of the Categories, Part 16).

- A judgment may either be analytic or synthetic.

In all judgments in which the relation of a subject to the predicate is thought, this relation is possible in two different ways. Either the predicateBbelongs to the subjectAas something that is contained in this conceptA; orBlies entirely outside the conceptA, though to be sure it stands in connection with it. In the first case, I call the judgment analytic, in the second synthetic (Critique of Pure Reason, 6-7).
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- Analytic: “true just in the virtue of how the subject relates to the predicate”

- Synthetic: “something entirely different from that which I think in the mere concept of body in general” (Critique, 7).

Knowledge comes from judgment and is classified as either empirical (a posteriori) or a priori.

Judgment --> Knowledge

a posteriori: grounded in experience

- Limited in its application

- Susceptible to contradiction

a priori: based upon reason alone

- Independent of sensory experience

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