Rate my stack, /lit/? Post yours, too.
0/12
you started a topic with a different version of this stack already, just go read them man
>>8135036
I just like fun and slightly-off-topic threads :>
ITT: the Titans
Answering seriously, William Gaddis and Billiam Gass.
Cronus
>>8134887
Franzen was too dumb for Gaddis, LOL
Is this Sadboy: The Novel?
Fancyboy
i normally don't meme this hard but i genuinely think you should go to bed ta
How do you know you're not reading to seem smart?
I find being a pseud wrt music and film much easier because I eventually come to actually enjoy the "classics" and develop my own taste. Whether I initially did it to >feel cool> becomes irrelevant, because I know now what I like in these media.
Since reading (especially nonfiction) seems to demand greater engagement from the consumer, consumption of lit feels much more tedious. I don't even know if I like it/feel like it was worth it. Especially when I could have watched a bunch of instantly gratifying movies instead.
The final checkoff on ur yearly reading plan and gaining the rights to seem patrician and saying u read those books to English majors is worth the reading, plus it gets better as u read something enjoyable. You can also seem smart, which watching movie isnt gonna bring.
The secret is that it doesn't really matter. What you read should be entirely your choice. You shouldn't read an author our of imagined necessity, no matter how much the autists on this board think you should.
>>8134740
Because no one really cares about me anyway, so by extension no one cares what I'm reading and how it makes me look. Also
>the consumer
If you're consuming literature rather than experiencing it, then you definitely are just a pseud.
Hey /lit/, I have started working on a dark fantasy story. I still don't know if its going to be short or long but at this pace it might be huge.
What do you guys consider to be do and don't in fantasy? More specifically what gets you interested and what immediatly turns you off?
>>8134684
>More specifically what gets you interested and what immediatly turns you off?
Turn on's:
When the writer is inspired by an unknown force to relinquish all the benefits of social life and pursue the materialization of the Symbol the muse has let him see
Turn off's:
When the writer comes on 4chan to ask other people how he should write the novel he thinks he should write, 'cause you know, he'd be great at it, he's so smart, besides he's been writing in the basement so long, reading so many DARK FUCKING FANTASY stories, oh he's dark, you know, real dark, like you wouldn't even understand, and, I mean, he's also part of a huge demographics for insipid and tasteless works of literature that do not demand the will to widen the soul, and just sort of tell these tales about what you could be dreaming about if you where also a destinyless neckbeard regulating his faps per hour to fill in a fake routine to fill his mediocre hours of breath and pulse
>>8134684
Good:
>well-written, interesting prose
>well though-out, interesting imagery
>complex, multi-faceted characters
>some level of content or meat
>complex, interesting plot
Bad:
>weird, offputting names for stuff
>sex of any kind
>shockjocking
>cliches
>chosen one trope
>killing off characters all the time and pretending that that makes it interesting
Write what's on your mind
cum
As someone who made literature their life, I hate this board.
Let's see if /lit/ is smarter than an smart Irish 15 year old:
http://www.thejournal.ie/quiz-junior-cert-english-2795420-Jun2016/
>>8134559
I got a D, a pass is a pass!
5/10
Got all the Shakespeare questions correct.
3/10
tbf of the 10 works tested on I was taught 0 in school and read 1 on my own.
where do I start with nietzsche?
>>8134363
If you're going to just read one book, I'd recc on the genealogy of morals. If you're going to try and really understand him go in this order:
Daybreak
The Gay Science
Beyond good and Evil
On the genealogy of morals
Thus spoke zarathustra
And then supplement with the birth of tragedy, ecce homo, etc. as you see fit.
If you aren't intending on reading the primary text, then go enjoy your le overman xd tipping elsewhere
>>8134363
Plato
>>8134403
the primary text?
…the last few years of the postmodern era have seemed a bit like the way you feel when you’re in high school and your parents go on a trip, and you throw a party…. For a while it’s great, free and freeing, parental authority gone and overthrown…. but the sense I get of my generation of writers and intellectuals or whatever is that it’s 3:00 a.m. and the couch has several burn-holes and somebody’s thrown up in the umbrella stand and we’re wishing the revel would end. The postmodern founders’ patricidal work was great, but patricide produces orphans, and no amount of revelry can make up for the fact that writers my age have been literary orphans throughout our formative years. We’re kind of wishing some parents would come back. And of course we’re uneasy about the fact that we wish they’d come back…. Is there something about authorities and limits we actually need? And then the uneasiest feeling of all, as we start gradually realizing that parents in fact aren’t ever coming back — which means we’re going to have to be the parents.
Whenever I see that dfw pic I feel comfy, just thought I'd let you know
>>8135487
me too dude
>>8134347
David was the closest thing to a patriarchal post-,modernist.
Underneath all that post-modern misanthropy he actually wanted to impart a message of hope, of course he ultimately failed at that by killing himself but that too has been greatly misconstrued by ignorant parties who dont really understand art or why someone in his position might have done that but yeah he warned us about our generations return to traditional forms of narratives (the anti-rebels).
This is why we have John Green, young-adult dystopia and Twilight as the new prime lit. This is sincere fiction, your new parents are just lame plebs.
I actually hope theres a return to that sort of experimental fiction but i think it will look very different from the novels we've come to know in the pre-internet age
Who is the best author who killed himself who isn't Hemingway or DFW?
>>8134337
I you mean "best" in an objective literary sense, Virginia Woolf.
She suffered bouts of depression and during a particularly overwhelming one she put on a coat, filled it's pockets with stones, and walked into a river, drowning herself.
I'm a bad writer. Most of the time when I plot out a story it feels original but once I begin writing it's some really lame ripoff-DFW kind of thing.
Should I make a point of not copying others' styles? or is the experience of writing in an unoriginal fashion - writing anything at all - worthwhile for the experience?
>>8134183
truth is, most people start off copying their favorite writer- look at Beckett. The good writers evolve their own style
You probably just need to write more. You'll find your voice if you stick at it for long enough.
>>8134192
the thing is I don't even particularly like DFW. I definetely don't like the pseudo-DFW I produce.
Anyone else realizing they won't make it as a writer?
>>8134150
If you ever seriously thought in terms of "making it" or not "making it" you were doomed from the start.
>>8134150
I realized that a long time ago, when I was young and believed I would be the next big literary genius. But I was awful, admitted it to myself, and moved on.
No reason to let that make you stop though.
>>8134150
I'm the favorite in the english department at my uni...I hang out and drink with all the professors and we trade stories. I'm in a semi-relationship with a 45 year old professor. She's divorced and she likes my company. We sleep together, actually sleep, sometimes and others we just fuck.
She can deepthroat. I am a successful writer.
/lit/izens who write short forms (stories, essays, poems): what are some places where you've been published? I'd like to check out the publications we write for, in addition to what we read.
arxiv.org
>>8134057
>implying published writers browse /lit/
don't be cute
I'm not telling you because the two creative works I've published are merely ok. My best work is always rejected.
Non-fiction work, I'd consider revealing here. Maybe.
>he dies
>zero threads on /lit/
further proof /lit/ is a bunch of pseuds who don't read.
>>8133959
is that roger ebert?
>>8133959
>reading plays
>>8133959
I make it a moral principle not to read writers who attended Oxbridge or an Ivy
What do you think of him, /lit/?
I've read Animal Farm and 1984 and they're my personal favorites, something about his literature is simply beautiful.
Open for discussion.
>>8133864
/r/books class of 2016
>>8133864
>>8133864
I know you're the one making all these 1984 threads and it needs to stop.
I get it. Welcome to literature.