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Post the names of your works, be they finished or not. Translate to English if necessary.
Iiris (a female name, so no point in translating)
The Islands and the Sea
The First 19 Years
The Fall of Eden (meaning autumn, not falling down, although I realized the name is much better in English due to possible double meaning of the name, as it fits the theme of the novella so well)
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Freshly Battered Leviathan
Gamma Ray Bursts & Other Light-Hearted Matters
Terrorism of [Gorgut's Third Album]
Chipped Stanza #2
Portrait of a Kinetic Sculpture
Artificer's Death (Bright and Gleaming)
and yes they are that bad
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Them Heavy People
The Emergency Exit Door
Watching
Talk
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>>8137148
I know this will sound horribly nit picky, but verb titles drive me bonkers, like "Watching". The other ones sound cool though.
I'm 25 pages deep and already ecstatic. I fucking love Bodine.
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Me too. Good thread anon :P)
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glad you're enjoying it
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>>8136997
Does Bodine appear that early? I thought he didn't appear til the ferryman, Whatsisname Ice.
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What gives 'philosophers' grounds to preach? 2016-06-07 18:16:03 Post No.8136981
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What gives 'philosophers' grounds to preach?
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Pic unrelated
So i've started writing out my thoughts/opinions on power in society and the meaning of evil.
Everything was going along fine until I realized that, from the perspective of a reader, i'm just some asshole using a book as a soapbox to yell my ideas.
How do I avoid this? I'll be honest, I havent read much Philo aside from Machiavelli, so I am not sure how they structure their works.
Should I write it as an essay?
Should I make it a narrative and stuff my ideaology in it (Ayn Rand style)?
Or should I keep it as is, just a stream of my thoughts to be edited later?
Thanks
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>>8136981
>evil
>existing
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Gravity.
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>>8136981
You are confusing philosophy with social commentary. They have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
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Finally getting around to reading pic related.
Is it worth it, /lit/?
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Why don't you read it and find out?
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>>8136962
dude, no.
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>>8136969
Because its a behemoth and I want to gauge the room first to see if its worth my time.
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books on how woman control men using their sexual manipulation or whatever.
Like how the only reason we are born is to procreate. And our "will to life" compels us to mate with females.
I don't want "men r better coz im white init", I want it to be based on facts and evidence, sexism is okay when it's based on hard cold truths. No matter how cold they are, as long as it's evidence
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>>8136945
r9k plz
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>>8136958
not an argument
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>>8136945
>I want it to be based on facts and evidence, sexism is okay when it's based on hard cold truths. No matter how cold they are, as long as it's evidence
Bruh, if psychoanalysis couldn't do it in almost 100 years, you certainly won't find it anywhere else.
About to read pic related. What should I expect?
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>>8136924
Shit, like everything else that hack wrote.
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Beautiful tragedy
Also the best Metallica song
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>>8136936
Shit like this post is ruining /lit/. You're not funny, you're fucking annoying.
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Where did the "le fantasy isnt literature" meme come from?
All the "lit approved" memes like moby dick, infinite jest, ulysses etc are all fantasy
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>>8136687
T. Rectally ruinated genrepleb
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>>8136693
You sound like you validate yourself by what books you read, the OP pic describes you in particular
The only thing even close to genre fiction Ive read is probably Gene Wolfes BOTNS series and bram stokers dracula
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Moby-Dick isn't fantasy, it just feels that way because the circumstances of the book are so wildly different from everyday ordinary life.
Is there a name for that sort of literature, incidentally? Blood Meridian is sort of like that too. It's not 'fantasy' but it's completely alien to normal people in contemporary society, and was even when it was written.
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Just finished this baby want some the notes? 2016-06-07 16:40:08 Post No.8136621
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Just finished this baby want some the notes?
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This are parts that i found interesting from the book The Black Swan
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/242472.The_Black_Swan
recorded books - audio
A black swan is a highly probable event with three principal characteristics
It is unpredictable
It carries a massive impact
After the fact we make up an explanation which makes it look less random and more predictable than it was
One single observation can invalidate a valid statement derived from millennia of confirmatory sightings of millions of people
The author of the harry book series does not have to write a new book each time someone wants to read it , but a baker needs to bake bread every time he wants to sell bread
this is the diference between professions that can add zeros to their earning without more work and those who cant
Don't simplify beyond what is necessary
Our minds are like inmates captured to our biology unless we manage a cunning escape
A lot of mildly good news is preferable to a single lump of good news regarding what makes you happy
Superior qualities are only superior if most people don't have them
Respectable literary publishers accept 1 in 10 000 manuscripts the receive from first time authors
It is the worst case that matters when engaging in a policy , the worst case is far more consequential than the forecast itself
It is often said that he is wise who can see things coming but perhaps the wise one is the one who knows he cannot see things far away
A bad prediction can be worse than no prediction
We over estimate the length of the effect of misfortune on our lifes, you thing that the lost of your fortune or job will be devastating but you are probably wrong , more likely you will adapt
Scholars are judged mostly on how many times their work was referenced on others people work
Popular science books that summarize research in complex systems
Mark Buchanan - Ubiquity
Philip Ball - Critical mass
Paul Ormerod - Why most things fail
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>>8136621
This book was on a /bizlit chart and when I posted it on /biz, it got smug Pepe replies. Why is it so? What's in the book that it elicits such a reaction?
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>>8136756
Taleb is a pretty smug dude so that might be why
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so is this book legit?
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dear Kartoffels of /lit/,
I never ever get to talk about my favorite author, because he is not at all (or barely) even translated.
any of the Germans here familiar with Max Goldt? I've read all of his works, I've been to his readings twice and he has remained my favorite author for almost a decade now.
ask me anything about Max Goldt.
in here I will be posting a few of his cartoons & collabs incase no one will respond (which is gonna happen, isn't it?)
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literally who
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>>8136634
sadly a lot of fantastic German writers, like Goldt, Arno Schmidt, or Herbert Achternbusch are rarely to ever discussed on this forum. I don't blame anyone, they're not very well-known. maybe Schmidt is.
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>>8136619
What makes him so great?
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hey, /lit,
I'm broke and have this shitty Kindle fire.
Hit me up with some genuinely well written and compelling novel recommendations that I can download for FREE off the Amazon book store.
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what the fuck is a torrent I asked for a BOOK recommendation off Amazon reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
what do you mean why Amazon reeee that's where you buy books, where else would I look reeeee
WHAT THE FUCK IS A TORRENT I ASKED FOR A BOOK GOD DAMN IT
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I've been reading The Master's Marionnettes and it's fucking fantastic. Give it a shot.
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>>8136603
just go on bookzz.org and download PDFs senpai, that's what I do.
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Memes can be best understood in analogy with unicelluar life. In my perception, as a "dialectecal materialist" rather than a Cartesian "All is dead matter" naturalist, I do not see a single cell as an organism. Unicellular reproduction generally results in virtual clones, so a population of unicells is almost as genetically uniform as a multicellular one. These unicells communicate with each other by means of hormones and pheromes, and act as a unit.
Recent studies have shown deep similarities between the way natural language functions among groups and the way other natural systems function (such as a disease virus). Language systems behave as living organisms in the way they maintain homeostasis across their populations. The mechanism by which they transmit the information is the same way group perception is maintained, "chatter", like a cloud of pheromes, which constitutes the routine 90 % of communication. This living being, language, may itself have less awareness than a virus or a photon, or it may have a deeper structure. I have seen a few maps and models which might describe such, but I am literally agnostic about that question. What I am nearly 100% confident of, in terms of verifiable knowledge, is the lifelike behavior of language.
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Language arose well before individual group consciousness became the norm. The ancestors originally thought by means of images. Image. or archtype dominated awareness prevailed for a long time after we started productively chattering and growing the base of routine universal code. Slowly, individuals bagan to actually use this language internally to think. When this state spread thruough the majority of the popluation, a quantum jump occured. A measure of the difference in mentality between verbal thinkers as they evolved, and surviving image dominated populations, is remembered in stories of soul-less elves, "who know not what they do, or why!" I suspect, such jumps occured time and again as language evolved and or linguistic consciousness devloped. I think some people today are "Philosophical zombies" or "skinnerian robots" and one such variety may be those who still think only in images, archetypes, and gut.
This is my third post tonite if you missed the one at the bottom of page two. I will continue.
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From what I have read of the populations of Australia, and to a lesser extent, the Americas, such group onsciousness may have dominated until contact. But it also appears that such mimetic systems, once they have evolved, spread by contagion, transforming even populations that are not yet otherwise cuulturally, or possibly even psychologically adapted to it.
The phenomenae Jayne observed in his work on the bicameral mind was the emergence of the concept embodied in the pronoun "I", which he saw indicative of the emergence of individual consciousness, yet does not appear in the earlist books of Genesis or the entire Illiad. I suspect by this time the change was linguistic, and represented a focusing of individual consciousness so exstreme it made the memes of an individual more important than the group meme. Before this, in the Illiad and Odyssey, they speak of shame, which is something one feels in relation to others. After that, they speak of guilt, which follows one to the wastelands. The actual transition to verbal consciousness, much less its first emergence in some twinspeak, were, I suspect, much earlier.
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What comes next? I am having a hard enough time time figuring out what is going on now. Writing and reading, which reconnects language to visual imagery, made for a powerful intensification of mental imagery. In my own personal experience, I started habitually running an internal dialogue only after I had learned to run one by visualizing imagery to accompany what I read, and words in my thoughts are, on a subliminal level that occasionally makes itself obvious, always accompanied by an image, even if that image is only the letters which spell it. Marshall McLuhan, whose account of historical psychology starts where Jaynes stops, said the printing press was caused by people reading more, rather than visa versa, and that each subsequent media invented revolutionized our thought processes and social relations.
To take any more about the future, I would have to change my analogy for the life-like qualities of language from the "emotional plague" model of Wilhelm Reich to the mimetic ecology theories of Robert Anton Wilson and others, and even then I would just be laying groundwork before I could make any meaningful predictions about the future. All that I can say for sure about the future is that the future is...
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>be /lit/izen for some years now
>randomly go to /an/ to ask a random question
>educated discussion with arguments and scientific references
>minimal shitposting
>stimulating and thought provoking overall experience
>mfw
>>>/an/2138614
you guys should be ashamed. i am.
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How funny that your post is what you imply /lit/ to be like.
Perhaps it cannot be helped.
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>>8136417
what cant be helped, lit and its shittyness or my naive expectations?
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>>8136461
your inability to self-examine
Where to start with Evelyn Waugh?
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WAAAAAAUGH
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At the end.
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Waugh isn't a woman? Jesus christ.
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>Her cunt became the world
what did he mean by this?
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>>8136056
That everything in GoT is an allegory for a vagina
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>>8136056
It was his way of showing what a poor writer he is.
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That might be a Gass quote haha
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Is it modern? Is it postmodern? Is itliterature?
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It's a damn fine book.
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>>8135844
It's modernism which takes a punch at many postmodern techniques and subverts them, so a jumbled, almost chaotic narrative with an unreliable narrator has a message that God orders this world like an engineer and we can see his handywork if we look past the surface.
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>>8135844
>literature
>Fantasyshit
Take a guess