Can someone give me the name of that website where you pay about 5 dollars a month and they will submit your articles?
I cannot.
>>8139317
Damn anon I was just thinking about this the other day. Here's a bump.
Duotrope? I dunno.
>I refuse to "look up." Optimism nauseates me. It is perverse. Since man's fall, his proper position in the universe has been one of misery.
John Kennedy Toole
>>8139137
>Christianity
>>8139137
Man's fall?
>that one time 1,895 years of christianity was completely and utterly BTFO forever in just 88 pages of text
>>8139135
What does btfo mean?
>>8139204
>btfo
backed the fuck off
>>8139250
Cheers
y'all.
I'm literally crying right now. I can't handle the fact that sacks died. I read his last letters at the bookstore a few months ago and i can't control myself anymore. He didn't even write much about death. I don't know what to do with myself. Did he publish anything on death? I just want to email him again. I just want to imagine him alive again.
SACKS MORE LIKE BALLSACKS
LMAO
>>8139016
HOLY SHIT OP ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>8139016
DOHOHO FUKN REKD
THE MONSTER DID NOTHING WRONG
how did hollywood fuck this up so bad
>>8139004
You think normies want to watch a movie about a well spoken ed monster, it might shatter their pre conveiled notions of good and evil
The real monster was us all along. :(
Have any of you read Spencer's The Faerie Queen? I read Pope's Rape of the Locke a few weeks ago but it was over too quickly and I'm looking to scratch that heroic couplet itch. What's a good edition?
>>8138971
>The Faerie Queen
>heroic couplet itch
you will be disappointed, anon, it's not written with heroic couplets, it's written with spenserian stanza
if you want heroic couplets read... pale fire
Pope's Homer if the form's really important to you.
if you want to loosen it up a bit, you could read fourteeners too, which brings in Chapman's Homer.
Keats' Lamia is pretty strict, come to think of it. There's a BBC 4 radio play of it too, if the form really isn't important.
But yeah, not Spencer.
>>8138996
>Spencer
Any historybros still on /lit/ and want to talk about history books?
/his/ is a shitty fanfiction board.
Related disciplines also welcome.
How about we talk about Dickens' A Child's History of England?
The classics of History books, can someone name a few for me?
I think that Anne Frank's diary is one of them, but i'm not 100% sure
Thanks in advance
>>8139618
The Big Ol' Book of Stuff What Happened
What's this book about?
Why does it inspire killers?
Is it worth the read?
>What's this book about?
An edgy kid
>Why does it inspire killers?
They relate to the edgy kid
>Is it worth the read?
You like YA?
>>8138442
how have you not read it?
didn't you go to school?
>>8138457
I was supposed to read it senior year, but my teacher made us read Catch-22 instead.
Are any of Gaddis' other works as Salinger-esque as JR? It finally just clicked for meat the introduction of Eigen's wife and their relationship followed by Schramm's suicideand I'm hoping The Recognitions has the same, despite its main focus on following the story ofFaust.
>>8138421
Bump
Just a sentence, for gods sake
The Recognitions isn't that much like JR to be honest, you have to consider how much time there was between these two novels. The Recognitions itself took like seven years to write and JR wasn't published until twenty some odd years after that.
>>8138653
Thanks, fella.
Can someone walk me through Nietzsche's catalog of work and give a brief explanation of what each one has in it so I can decide which one I want to buy? I already have Thus Spoke zarathustra, but I don't really like the whole story metaphor set up. I was thinking about getting Beyond Good and Evil just because the title seems to both something interesting, but I really have no idea.
>>8138345
>not your personal wiki
>>8138435
humor me
>>8138345
Birth of Tragedy: Sets up Nietzsche's aesthetics, understanding of Apollonian and Dionysian through a new interpretation of Greek civilization. This is the first of Nietzsche's forays into historical deconstruction. His one and only major work as a philologist, though his education obviously echoes throughout his work. Was one of his most popular books but was panned by the philology community of the time. Over time people came to respect Nietzsche's viewpoint though most modern philologists disagree with his account for different reasons
On Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense: Sets up Nietzsche's approach towards epistemology, it's a very short work. Many people credit this work as the founding document of postmodernism.
Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks: Nietzsche trying to psychoanalyze Greek philosophers through the lens of their work. He abandoned this before finishing it to start writing Untimely Meditations.
Untimely Meditations: Another unfinished work, he intended to produce 13 essays but produced only four. The ones on Strauss, Schopenhauer and Wagner are interesting bits that require some historical background to appreciate but the true gem is On the Use and Abuse of History for Life which expounds on the ideas presented in On Truth and Lies. This was the essay that inspired much of Foucault's philosophy.
Human, all too Human: This is the first work of 'middle Nietzsche', the period immediately after Nietzsche abandoned Wagner and Schopenhauer's philosophy, quit his job at the university and became a wandering NEET. In this period Nietzsche is a little less bombastic than the late period and much more optimistic towards the merits of science and skepticism. Nietzsche begins to write in aphorism in part due to his poor health and eye problems (which contributed to his failure to finish his prior two works). This work explores a lot of questions of what it means to be an artist or a thinker (he also trashes the idea of 'genius' and 'divine inspiration' here) and the early portions spend a lot of time talking about dreams. This book was a major inspiration to Freud. He develops the idea of the Free Spirit in this book which is in some ways a prototype for the Ubermensch.
The Dawn: A short, odd work where Nietzsche presents many ideas that are completely antithetical to what he posits elsewhere. He writes antagonistically, almost reminiscent of his later works.
The Gay Science: Nietzsche claimed this was his most personal book. This is where the Eternal Recurrence of the same and the death of god emerge in Nietzsche's thought. He also includes poems and songs that make no sense if you don't read it in German.
I'm gonna get the ego and it's own. Which edition should I get?
>>8138213
The cheapest.
Or go balls deep and get it in German, unlike all the other plebs here.
>>8138213
Luckily for you there is only one edition in English
>>8138213
They're all mine btw
Good evening /lit/,
I've just finished Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. It was fun and I had interesting contemplations afterwards. Where do I go next to stay roughly in the same vein of roman/greek (not necessarily) stoicism?
Aurelius mentioned Epictetus and Plato a lot, any recommendations for them maybe?
Read The Enchiridion or Golden Sayings by Epictetus.
Read Letters From a Stoic by Seneca
Read Cicero in general, start off with On Old Age or On Friendship (then read the one you didn't read)
>>8138170
>>8138179
>Aphoristic "literature"
>>8138179
On Friendship seems interesting, I'll go with that first
Who are the essential modernist/absurdist playwrights?
Albee, Mamet, Beckett
>>8138051
Genet, Ionesco, Albee, Beckett, Adamov,Camus
Let me just lay things out for you in just as broad a way as I can, then try to narrow it down. I think it's disgusting that our society has a system of justice, I think that it is horrible for the people that live in society. People are just people with no cosmic good and bad and right and wrong attached. When you break those things down, you realize that they make no sense and they are, no matter how badly you'd like to believe otherwise, completely arbitrary.
So since the people in our society are living under these arbitrary moral laws, and anyone who breaks them is subject to punishment and the torment of being locked up, doesn't it seem like society is ultimately a bad thing for everyone who lives inside of it? You may be thinking, of course it's not a bad thing, just don't do wrong things and you won't be sent to jail. Seems easy enough, right? Well, disregarding the fact for a moment for the sake of an argument, and the fact that it's unfortunate for those who are constrained by laws, we can see that society actually constrains us in many other ways.
Consider the ways in which society enslaves every person who lives in it. We not only cannot break the laws, but we can't break the unwritten laws, the norms and mores of our culture. We're also bound by money, our family, our country, all of these things are at times very unfortunate things that people are bound by.
So, seeing as we're all ultimately slaves to society, I don't know why people don't have more respect and sympathy for people like pedophiles and rapists and murderers, and not just people who break large social rules, but people who simply rebel against the authoritative class of society, the people who rule above them. You're brainwashed if you think society is a good thing, and you're just part of the attempt to normalize and program others around you into conforming to the society you live in if you say otherwise.
Do you see my point? I wish I knew some literature that related to this topic but unfortunately I don't. I also wanted to say for the millionth time, I hate religion more than I hate pedophiles, rapists, murderers, and anyone who goes against the grain of society. Religion is the epitome of that authoritarian programming that tries to get people to fall in line with the social program. Social - program, it fits nicely doesn't it, it's because that's exactly what it means; social programming of your own mind.
>>8137971
>>>/reddit/
>>8137971
Stop trying to justify your love for children. We get it, you don't want to be judged by society for your way of thinking. Sure, I'd like to fuck a 12 year old as well, but NO, OP, don't do it. Okay? All your rationalizing on the arbitrariness of good and evil doesn't justify your sick thought.
>>8138073
I actually am not a pedophile, but you'd be willing to scapegoat me to make yourself feel better about what I said. You're an idiot, you only rationalize to make yourself feel better.
So I've seen the movie American Psycho probably a dozen times and don't really feel like reading the book. Is there anything else by him I should check out?
American Psycho is his only good book.
>>8137872
The Rules of Attraction is one of my favorite books. Much better than American Psycho, don't let people who haven't read either fool you.
>>8137872
none of his books are a massive departure in style