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Is Franzen a hack?
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>>8190568
Yes.
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>>8190574
How so?
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>>8190588
It works but it's not good engineering.
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this isn't bait pls don't meme me
are there any good books about being trans/with trans characters
this is the only one i found it was ok
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The Wasp Factory
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>>8190337
Middlesex, though it's more about identity, and intersexuality.
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We had this thread 2 days ago
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Anyone else here just completely put off by translations and translated works?
The older I get and the more I advance in my literature studies, the less I can stand translated works. Let me try to phrase this right. I'm not saying translation is useless, I'm not saying it shouldn't exist, I'm not saying people who read translated works are plebs or any of that shit (trying to have a serious discussion). I care a lot about the formal qualities of literature (structure, metre, syntax), and I mostly read poetry and novels. I have come to accept the fact that some things are just out of reach. Because I am fluent in several different languages and have a decent grasp on some others, I have often compared translations with the originals. It's not that all translations are bad at all, it's just that they're essentially entirely different products in the end. Of course, this doesn't happen to the same extent with entirely plot-based novels with mediocre style, but for the sort of literature I'm interested in, it's pretty noticeable. Fortunately for me, I have good enough reading comprehension in the 5 languages I care about the most. Still butthurt I'll never be able to read Russian lit, and Japanese lit to a lesser extent.
Tl;dr I find reading works from cultures entirely foreign to yours originally written in a language you know nothing about is not good enough for me and I would much rather entirely focus on stuff I can understand better at the expense of a narrow, in a sense, knowledge of literature.
What's your stance on this issue, /lit/?
Pic unrelated.
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>>8190198
>Because I am fluent in several different languages
>I have good enough reading comprehension in the 5 languages
We get it. You speak multiple languages.
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Translations are shit and they should be avoided at all costs.
They are for the monolingual American masses, not for intelligent people who actually care for literature.
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>>8190198
Humblebrag.
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Can translating a book make the book worse or even ruin it?
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Potentially yeah
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>>8190081
did you seriously have to ask this?
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>>8190081
are you retarded?
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What have you bought/borrowed lately?
Pic is my latest haul from the local book shop, cost about $25 total, most expensive book was Directive 51 at $8.50. Why do people pay $30+ for new books that we have piles of?
>inb4 poorfag
Getting the exact same experience for less money is just good finance logic.
The fucking bird encyclopedia is 1000 pages full color hardback, $3. Reference material is cheap as fuck.
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>>8189963
Bottom right two look pretty good.
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Sometimes I forget I am on 4chan and that people actually buys these books, lol.
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>>8189981
I was super excited about them. I love reference books and birds so the encyclopedia was a great snag.
The forestry book was pretty neat. I wanted the Official Handbook they had on the shelf, but when I put it back to check out the red one, some old guy who was next to me snatched it up and walked away, so I had to settle for this one. It has a lot of really interesting information in it.
>>8189987
It's mostly cookbooks and a couple "informational" books. There's literally two narratives there, and they're both pretty decent series, what could you possibly have a problem with?
Or are you just memeing it up because you saw the word Halo and haven't actually read any of the books at all?
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How can I start with Stirner? Could you orientate me in which of his books should I read first in order to 'get him right'?
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1. The Ego and Its Own.
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None, whenever he references a specific work he quotes or paraphrases the parts that he's referencing.
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>>8189870
>orientate
Orient.
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Which novelist do you find to dissect our 21st century situation best?
I'd say Houellebecq. Maybe Bret Easton Ellis too.
I don't think many come close really.
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Can't forget about Knausgaard.
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>>8189717
Pynchon or Delillo.
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Ive read posts on 4chan that are more int une with the problems of humanity than anyone in the media.
BEE is pretty much generation x.txt
There was a segment i saw on CNN about the alt right and it was a bunch of multicultural corporate stooges decrying them and then they mention how they masturbate to anime and worship taylor swift.
And its like, olds cant even comprehend when people are fucking with them, especially on the internet
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Has anyone on /lit/ been published?
What is the title of your best known work?
How long did it take you to write?
How long did it take you to get published?
Has it all been worth it?
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My roommate worked at the university paper and published something I had written about the campus's ugliness and lack of character. It was published under a pseudonym because the architect who designed some of the newer buildings is very much alive and I don't want that kind of static.
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Wrote for a couple school newspapers. Did some MMA journalism online for a while. Have done blogs and put some poetry snd shit out there too, but no glorious published Work of Art for me, yet.
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No one on /lit/ accomplishes anything.
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Is this the key to being alt lit?
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actually it's more benzos and e.
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no, xanax, anti-depressants and low testosterone
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Eros is a mysterious energy inherent in the whole of creation, fascinating seekers all over the world. Across the cultures, Eros takes different names but still remains the same agent that has to be awakened from within, since it is the only element that can transform the human psyche. Psyche has to be pacified and Eros’ "fire" has to be transformed into "light" so that he can become the mediator and guide that gently pushes and pulls the seeker towards the source of divine love—Eros the Beloved—that awakens from within, guides and accompanies the seeker from within the inner planes. He is the inner witness, the agent within the seeker that unfolds gnosis, or divine knowledge
>"fire" has to be transformed into "light"
Ellie Goulding Burn
https://youtu.be/M1SqP9ePky8
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This divine knowledge awakens higher levels of consciousness within him and, in turn, these levels of consciousness aroused by Eros lead the seeker back to the source of light
Ellie Goulding - 'Stay Awake'
https://youtu.be/JKvEUJpAEQc
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i clearly see the influences of hesiod's theogony and dante's divine comedy
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Ban all shitposters and tripfags
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To those who have read David Sedaris, what do you think of him? I picked this book up for 50¢ at a library bookstore and really enjoyed it. It was an unexpectedly entertaining collection of stories to read.
tl;dr: discuss David Sedaris
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kept my sane during my awful fall semester in texas when i was 18, will always be thankful. not the worst popular author to read for the sake of being able to talk about him with others
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>>8189448
He's got some pretty funny stuff out; his books of essays are great. My favorite of those I've read is When You Are Engulfed in Flames. He's got a good Christmas book, which if I remember right is about a time he worked as a stoner mall Santa.
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>>8189458
Santaland diaries was the final essay in OP pic, perhaps thats what you're referring to. And I want to read another Sedaris book now, would you recommend that I go with When You Are Engulfed In Flames?
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learning multiple languages
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Hey guys, I thought this was just a meme, but are people actually fluent in at least 3 European languages/other languages with a significant literary canon? I mean I took 2 years of French in high school(from Canada), but I barely retained anything, probably because I'm a retard, but that's besides the point. I can't even imagine becoming fluent enough to be able to appreciate good prose/poetry in their native tongue. Can someone please explain to me how you're supposed to know not one, but maybe 2 or 3 other langages?
I'm in uni atm btw
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>Pick language
>Study/Practice
>Know language
Wow.
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I know 4.
You need to practice every day. Go through a structured textbook, read, listen, speak. There's no magic tricks.
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>>8189408
And you do need to continue practicing all the languages forever (even your native language needs practice).
Who is your favourite zen poet, /lit/?
>inb4 Basho
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>>8189329
Ryokan
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>>8189329
Basho
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i want to read zen poetry, but is it worth it to read in translation?
i've read some han shan in translation and liked it, but i always am wary of reading poetry in translation, especially poetry in an eastern language that has religious significance.
are there recommended translations?
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">We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.
what did he mean by this
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>>8189299
We see things the way we want to see them. Pretty basic man.
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>>8189299
dream symbolism and shit
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innernet says bertrand didn't say it. but i assume it means that our perception of things depend entirely on our own sensation of them.
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50 pages in.
Not sure if I want to finish it not sure if it will get better.
What do?
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read some spoilers and decide if you want to go the rest of the way?
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>>8189250
Wolfe is kind of a hack. The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test was the only even halfway decent book he ever wrote.
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>>8189264
the painted word is a serious, vital piece of late 20th century art criticism
i've also heard good good shit about the right stuff