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lit's opinion on
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>Selected, translated, and adapted
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>>8234579
well im not reading that specific copy, reading an untranslated one with glossary.
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>>8234589
Chaucer is brilliant. After the Canterbury Tales read Troilus and Criseyde.

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Do you think we are going to call the period of writing after the death of internet culture postmemernism?
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>>8234561
fuck off
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Why did you put an 'n' in there?

-ism is a suffix.
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>>8234581
/thread

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What are some books that no pseud would ever read? What are some books that are only read by intellectuals?
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_____________________________________________my diary 2bh_____________________________________________
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but in all seriousness pseudom is more about attitude than the books you read

looking for books that make you seem like a Certified Intellectualâ„¢ is the kind of behaviour a pseud would have
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the only sure example would be non meme stuff aimed squarely at specialist in a field

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So this aside what Vonnegut books are worth reading?
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>>8234428
Cat's Cradle was far and away my favorite of his
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>>8234428
New reader here. I've just started reading this. What makes it come second to his other works?
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Mother Night

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What version of Bibliotheca of Pseudo-Apollodorus should I read? Pic related is only 300 pages long, while the Harvard Volumes are around 900 pages combined.
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>>8234389
This just shows how none of you fagots actually read the fucking Greeks if you can't even answer me a single question about a book ABOUT FUCKING GREEK ANCIENT MYTHOLOGY.

Go fuck yourself you pseudo fags.
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>>8234389
>>8234420
>9 minutes until maximum butthurt

Regardless of that I'll help as best I can. I read the OWC edition (your pic) and finished just a few days back. Only ~140 pages of it is actual content, with a ~30 page intro, and ~80 pages of notes.

Also I didn't realize which Harvard edition you were talking about until I google it and realized you're talking about the 2 volume Loeb set. I'm gonna quickly get these comments out of the way:

>not knowing what Loebs are
>calling Loebs "Harvard Volumes"
>calling other people pseuds
>laughinggirls.jpg

With that said, here are your real answers: Loebs (the little Harvard books, green for Greek, red for Roman) retain the original text (Latin/Greek) on each left page, with the English translation facing it. So the "900 page" volumes you saw are actually 450 pages of actual English text. On top of that, the books themselves are very small and have generous margins (pic related for a Loeb compared to the OWC Apollodorus), so usually 1 Loeb page will be ~1.5-2 Oxford/Penguin/Modern Library pages, and with only half the pages being in English, every page of a normal book ends up being 3-4 pages in a Loeb. Loebs are designed to be expensive as fuck because there are no other publishers with English translations that preserve the Greek/Latin original text. Also Loebs have no end notes, minimal footnotes, and varying but usually very brief introductions, so there's not much to help you along the way as you read. So they're usually the way to go if and only if (a) you are reading the original language, or (b) literally nobody else publishes the book you want, because although they are pretty, they are expensive as fuck especially for larger works which get split into a bunch of volumes, and they almost never go on sale.

In short, unless you can and want to read it in Greek, or want to spend $50 for less content when you can spend $10, buy Oxford.

PS This was a very boring read. Informative but painfully dry.
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>>8234674
>usually 1 Loeb page will be ~1.5-2 Oxford/Penguin/Modern Library pages

I fucked that up. It's the reverse: 1 regular page will be 1.5-2 Loeb pages. My bad.

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Is this really fucking necessary?
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the books are 50% descriptions of clothes and food and rooms and shit, if not more. get used to it if you wanna read em
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He's a genuinely fucking awful prose writer. I do think the stories are pretty entertaining and he could have been a brilliant TV writer but Jesus Christ.
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>>8234299
Necessary? I don't know. But colours are used to tell stories by their association with qualities. A nine year old would know as much.

And in fantasy writing this sort of thing is expected - even demanded, by readers.

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Goethe and Kant aside, the 18th century was completely worthless w/r/t literature.
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>>8234220
>shitting on Swift
outplebbing a five year old, well done OP
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>>8234235
Swift and Sterne were curiosities, but can't bear the weight of a century on their backs alone.
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>>8234246
lol, if you were trying to not look like an idiot, you failed.

while we're at it, swedenborg was praised by both kant and goethe as better than themselves

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Hey /lit/, where should I start with Christian (specifically, Catholic) theology, church order, and other topics pertaining to the Church? I remember seeing a pic on her once that broke it down into three or four topics, each with intro/middle/advanced readings.

All help is appreciated.
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that world is gone forever
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Paul-->Origen-->augustine-->aquinas
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Find some schools with good theology programs and then look at their online course descriptions. When you find the ones that are interesting to you go to the school's library webpage and enter the class number/s and it will give you the required reading for the class.

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What does /lit/ think of Milton, particularly Paradise Lost? What should I know before reading it?
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I thought it was pretty boring
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It's pretty amazing. You can just go into it without any prior reading since you very likely know general Bible stuff, but it would help to have read that.
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My grandma had some crazy people come to her house because they had a seance and the ghost of Milton apparently told them to go there (england) and find a civil war tunnel full of documents that would prevent an upcoming civil war in america.

I havent read any of him though.

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Has anyone read this? What does /lit/ think about Roger Scrutiny.
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I like his history of Modern Philosophy book. I've ripped off and destroyed the last section of Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy book and improved it by gluing Scruton's book in it's place.
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>>8234006
That's quite funny. I have some irrational hatred of Berty. Maybe it was because he was a cuck, but I'm not even /pol/. Probably because he had an affair with T S Elliot's wife now that I think about it.
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>>8233993
Got it signed by him yesterday, haven't read it yet but I'm FUCKING hyped desu.
I actually got a little wet when I saw that it was being released.
Scruton is a fucking God.

This is a pretty good book
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>>8233964
wow I started reading that today what a coincidence
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>>8234013
Don't read too much into it.
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>>8233964
What is this it looks extremely interesting

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Why is this considered so great?
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Because it has a lot of interesting concepts in it.
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Didn't you see all his advertisements?
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>>8233936
Borges is one of very few authors where if you can't appreciate his works then you have hopelessly shitty tastes.

What philospher has the best writing style and why is it Cioran.
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Wittgenstein
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>>8233829
Baudrillard
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Me lmao

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>>8233752
start with the greeks
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>>8233752
Sun and Steel.
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>>8233774
Any particular Greek?

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>most great authors weren't properly recognized in their lifetime

Is this even remotely true anymore? It seems as though the elements of literature that would previously make something subversive and controversial are now widely accepted, and authors that /lit/ masturbates to like Pynchon and DFW got to be called geniuses in their lifetime, while academics turn their nose up to "genre shit." And even then, the best "genre shit" writers get good reviews for their books.

The books that really do get terrible reviews across the board are things like 50 Shades of Grey, which I don't think is likely to be reevaluated centuries from now as some sort of masterpiece.
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>>8233693
>most great authors weren't properly recognized in their lifetime
>kills himself in order to be recognized
the biggest risk of them all
well meme'd, Mr. Wallace.
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>>8233703
>lifetime of clinical depression
>goes off meds due to change in efficacy
>"he killed himself for attention"
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>>8233703

except Infinite Jest was a critical success and got called "the best novel in the past 30 years"

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