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Has there ever lived a man more mysterious and shrouded by legend than this guy?
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>>8230881

Literally who?
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Pynchon. not even meming
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>>8230885
It appears to be Rasputin

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Are there any stories about a student who is hated by their teacher and the teacher uses their power against the student?

I'm not interested in a silly plot where a teacher hates the student's mom for rejecting him and is taking it out on the student, or something similar.

I'm talking about a visceral personal difference that brings out the worst in a teacher.

Maybe I should write such a story...

I've had two teachers like that.
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Any coming-of-age novel ever
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Whiplash
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"Settle down, settle down," Ms. Shell says as she walks into the classroom. I glance around and see my fellow classmates doing the same. Barely anyone had been talking.

"So, let's get started. Did anyone not read the assignment?" Nobody raises their hand. "Good. Then we'll get right into it. First of all, why do you think the author begins the story with a dream? Yes, Paul?"

"I think it's because a dream is the easiest way for a magical being, such as the goddess in the story, to communicate."

"Well, no, that's not exactly right. It's a reference to when God sent an angel to tell Mary she would bear his Son. This, also, supposedly happened in a dream."

They're both wrong, I think. Paul's closer though. I did it because people can have memories in dreams that they don't really have in real life. I even say that in the story! How could they get it wrong...?

"And speaking of Mary, this, I think, is what the goddess herself is based on as well. She's clearly a caring, motherly figure. That's why she is willing to sacrifice herself for the good of the protagonist. Yes, Rachel?"

"I didn't see it that way. I thought the goddess's relationship with the protagonist was more romantic than familial."

Thank you! I think. At least SOMEONE gets it!

"Come on, Rachel, if you were a follower of a pagan goddess, would you want a romantic relationship with her?" Ms. Shell asks sarcastically.

But she's right! I scream in my head. That's exactly what I was going for!

"Well, I'm straight, so not really...." The class chuckles at Rachel's response. Ms. Shell ignores it and keeps going.

"Now, finally, one of the most obvious symbols in this story are the bible verses the protagonist sees on his watch. Can anyone guess which verses these are referencing?"

Nobody speaks, not that Ms. Shell gives them time to anyway.

"All of the quotes are from the First Book of Samuel. The first one, 22:20, involves someone named Abiathar running away to join David. The protagonist sees this while he's running to join his goddess.

The second one, 24:15, is about David showing mercy to Saul, like how the goddess is merciful towards the protagonist despite him not recognizing her.

The last one, 26:28, isn't actually a real verse. The 26th chapter in the First Book of Samuel only has 27 verses. This indicates the unknown, emphasizing the uncertainty of the goddess and protagonist's futures."

Okay, screw it. I put my hand up.

Friendly reminder he did absolutely nothing wrong.
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I forgive you.
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While he did fuck everything up in the isle just so he could eat ham, Ralph was the biggest fuck up. So, yeah.
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>>8230859
jack was cute!

CUTE!

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Does /lit/ also do filename threads?
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>>8230853
>tfw post from a phone
>tfw no filenames
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>>8230858

(its Blood Meridian)

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Is writing a diary literature?
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yeah
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Why would you put a comma there?
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>>8230836

If a person is moved to create some sort of literature, artwork, or other material as a consequence of their depression, or even of their upper-middle class "sadness", and even if it happens to be a very boring or trite form of personal expression, then the statement in OP's image is literally false. And it is clear from the context that "creatives" and their ilk are meant, and not simply depressed people who do not manage to create anything.

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>That praises are without reason lavished on the dead, and that the honours due only to excellence are paid to antiquity, is a complaint likely to be always continued by those, who, being able to add nothing to truth, hope for eminence from the heresies of paradox; or those, who, being forced by disappointment upon consolatory expedients, are willing to hope from posterity what the present age refuses, and flatter themselves that the regard which is yet denied by envy, will be at last bestowed by time.
— Dr. Samuel Johnson, "Preface to Shakespeare"

Is this the single most titanic fucking sentence ever written? Every time I read it I see a volcano erupting.
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>>8230765
>Is this the single most titanic fucking sentence ever written?
yes
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>>8230765
Gotdam
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The pusher man

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Why is stoicism so attractive to people? I noticed girls eat that shit up. Is it composure or having your shit together? I want to learn
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>>8230763
/lit/ - literature
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>>8230763
>.jpg
the MADMAN
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Stoicism is just western Buddhism where you suppress your emotions till the whole nation ends up with a suicide rate the size of japan

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I bought a second-hand book and it has a moldy odor. How do I get it out? I was thinking of sticking it in the oven for a while, not sure what temps I should go for though.
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Fahrenheit 451
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>>8230690
Use fine sandpaper on the edges of the pages to remove the top layer of grime, which may be contributing to the smell.

Then open the book and check for loose dirt, insects, fleas, tobacco, chocolate, biscuit crumbs, whatever, and remove these.

Gently go over the front and back cover with rubbing alcohol to remove surface stains and bacteria from people who read on the toilet, etc.

Seal the book in an airtight bag along with something fragrant for a few days.

(optional) Put the book, in a bag, in a freezer for a few days to kill any silverfish/eggs/whatever else maybe festering among the pages.
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>>8230897
But if there is actual, visible mould - just chuck it.

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Geoffrey Hill was tremendous. I read some of his poetry on the web and immediately started saving money to buy his collected poems. I bought them today, afraid that someone would take them from the second-hand bookstore before me.

As for Bonnefoy, I know nothing about him, because my French is terrible. I just decided to make one thread for both of them.

A terrible day for poetry.

Bonnefoy: http://www.corriere.it/cultura/16_luglio_01/morto-yves-bonnefoy-eb51adc0-3fbe-11e6-83d3-27b43c152609.shtml

Hill: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/what-to-read/britains-greatest-poet-geoffrey-hill-dead-at-84/
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it's pretty depressing how many authors I only hear about because they died

I only read Salter because he died recently and he's amazing
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Goodnight sweet Prince Geoffrey.

I had hoped that there was still more to come from him. I read through his collected works all through last year, astounded that there were still people producing poetry like it. I love his grumpy persona, I loved his bitching about Carol Ann Duffy to the press. I loved the prophetic drive and anger in his work. He seemed to pick up speed later in life and I really wanted more. And now he's gone.
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>>8230700
I sometimes find it depressing to read him because his poetry is so obviously above anything that I will ever be able to write.

The collection I bought contains all of his poetry up to 1992. I couldn't find other works of his, because I live in Brazil, and the dollar is very expensive now.

Have you read his critical writings? A Brazilian poet once said he was the best poetry critic of our time.

His YouTube interviews are very funny. He seemed to be a wonderful, wonderful person.

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About half through this and I don't really get it. Thackery has wit enough, but the prose falls too flat to deliver it. Melville proved that clause-dense English could jive; Joyce (in the Bloom chapters) that choppy could fly like a kite; Dickens is ample proof that satire of the era still plays. But Thackery just isn't registering with me. Does it get better? (recent chapters have improved some - married couples about to go to Belgium) Am I just retarded? (dime for every post says this)

Plot-wise seems like what would've happened if Gogol wrote War and Peace - but I'm not sure I can dig that either. Is there anything profound or deep in pure cynicism? The gestural (because unfinished) religious epiphany in Dead Souls struck me as far from a mistake and rather central to the book as art.

Vanity Fair general.
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I'd self bump but apparently the self is a spook... So... Something bumps, anyway.
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>prose
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>>8230645

Recently read this, thought it was excellent.
You might just be retarded.

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Thoughts on Paul Celan ?

Similar poets?
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fucking great
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I don't understand why the Jews are drinking milk in Death Fugue. Surely the Germans wouldn't have given them milk. It just seemed poorly researched.
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>>8230545
Don't like him, too disjointed, not aesthetically pleasing in most cases. J. H. Prynne and maybe John Ashbery could be considered similar.

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Rejecting the God of his ancestors, modern man worships the People. Just as the God of our fathers is invisible, all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-loving, so is the People.

Nobody has ever seen the People with his own eyes, yet many men believe in the People. The People is not something that can be empirically tested or physically measured, yet its existence is not questioned - children are brought up to believe in the People. The People is immortal, it cannot be killed; the People is infallible, it cannot be put on trial.

Many people have lived in service of the People, many people have died for the People's sake.

Modern men complain that our ancestors killed men in the name of God, but far more men have been killed in the name of the People. Instead of "God has spoken", they now say, "the People has spoken".

Just as our fathers worshipped God in the temple and tried to discern his will through prayer, so do the worshippers of the People hold plebiscites and referendums in order to discern the will of the People. Just as bishops and priests are the incarnations of God placed by him in positions of authority to rule the faithful, so are communist dictators and democratic representatives the incarnations of the People that the People has placed to rule over the citizens.

God has his prophets, priests, penitents, saints and martyrs, and so does the People. The God has his sacred texts and laws, and so does the People.

The People usurping the throne of God - this is what the servants of the People call the Revolution.

The People does not exist.
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>have a great idea for a screenplay
>no clue how to write

this idea is going to go to waste. how long does it take to learn how to write ?
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>>8230516
5-50 years depending on how much talent you have.
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As long as you let it
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couple weeks

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/lit/ I was thinking about ending the summer later this year with some epic poetry and have been meaning to get to Paradise Lost for the longest time.

I was wondering if the experience would fall flat without reading the bible, any insight would help.
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Reading the bible is critical for understanding the entirety of the western canon.
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>>8230462
>entirety
Well I mean not classicism m8, and that is truly the most important part.
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>>8230427
Paradise Lost is probably my favourite thing written in English. Just go for it. Definitely read the bible eventually, but you can still get a ton out Milton with some standard biblical knowledge.

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>Kazuo Ishiguro on newsnight saying he wants all leave voters to explicitly say that they're not racists

Literature, not even once. and he's part of academia. What a cancer
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>>8230383
what?
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>>8230383
We won.
We aren't denying our racism anymore.
We have a mandate.
Walk on Jap. Walk on.
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>>>/trash/

not lit

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