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had he lived longer, would he have regretted writing his works?
it's no more than a teen whining about his life, what's so special about this guy?
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>>8586827
>“To whom shall I hire myself out? What beast should I adore? What holy image is attacked? What hearts shall I break? What lies shall I uphold? In what blood tread?”
>In cities, suddenly, the mud seemed red and black like a mirror when the lamp moves about in the adjoining room, like a treasure in the forest! Good luck, I cried, and I saw a sea of flames and smoke in the sky; to the right, to the left all the riches of the world flaming like a billion thunder-bolts.”
He's gud.
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>>8586827
Watched the Leonardo Dicap movie about this, he was a bit of a shit but
>9/9 would fugg an underage male teen writer
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He completely turned his back on poetry for the last two decades of his life, I don't think he held his works in high regard when he died.
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What was Stirners history with Marx? What arguments did they have?
I can't find much info on this but I remember stuff mentioned about this
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>>8586792
striner forced marx to never use moral arguments when advocating for communism
pretty based, but regrettably nowadays moral arguments are the only ones undergrads and other retards trot out in defense of communism
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>>8586799
Can you tell it in more detail?
How did stirner btfo marx
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What is crucial to understand is that in the German Ideology, Marx devoted around two thirds of the book to refute Max Stirner, because his thinking, if taken lightly, will shake the earth and destroy any hope for utopias.
Finished the /lit/ starter pack, what should I read next? Charts?
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Now read Mysteries by Knut Hamsun.
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Start with the greeks.
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Anyone have that red pilled, brown pilled, green pilled, purple pilled ect chart?
Are there any books that would give a general overview of the history and recent activities of radical ideologies such as klu klux and fascism?
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dahmer wasn't racist, he actually fucked and killed mainly minorities.
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>>8586752
I don't care what Dahmer did. Do you have a suggestion for a book?
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>>8586759
>Bookstore has a copy of "Kapital", volume one, by Karl Marx
>Bookstore also has an economics section
>Bookstore's copy of Kapital isn't shelved in the economics section
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>>8586732
Pure ideology
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>>8586732
It's political economy, not economics
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Should be in children's books
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I unironically love this book.
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>>8586679
i'm reading it right now. it has some absolutely great moments and I like the general ideas it presents, but at the same time it's frustratingly long-winded and filled with seemingly meaningless crap. i guess i'll end up liking it more towards the end, as it usually happens with longer novels.
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>>8586679
Pleb
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>>8586679
I'm 135 pages in. When does it get good?
I'm not even joking. I just find it bland and directionless atm.
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>It would be like an episode of "Are You Being Served?" by Dostoyevsky.
>"Mr. Humphries, are you free?"
>"None of us are truly free, dear Mrs. Slocum, unless it is in the act of murder."
Jerusalem is 10/10.
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>>8586668
>reference jokes xD
this is trash.
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>>8586668
Pretty funny!
Do you have to be really well read to read this book? Because if there is a lot of literally references like that then i won't get them.
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What books should I read to gain a thorough understanding of Mexican culture and society (not necessarily classics but ones that encapsulate the country)?
Also which ones are in fact the classics?
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>>8586659
t. Latin American but not Mexican.
The best 4 Mexican writers are Octavio Paz (a poet), Rulfo, Alfonso Reyes and Carlos Fuentes. They are all dead.
The best novel by a Mexican about Mexico is almost certainly Pedro Paramo by Rulfo, which is also probably the best Mexican book.
2 great novels about Mexico written by non Mexicans are The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene, and The Savage Detectives by Bolaño, who was Chilean but lived a few years in Mexico as a teenager and young adult.
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Do it about a girl that rub shit in her pussy.
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>>8586779
>octavio paz
hell no
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This is a general for discussing the theory of Forms.
Discuss the theory of Forms.
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>tfw this thread is a lower form
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>>8587137
>a concrete existent is a Form
Quit being retarded.
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>>8586653
So, does anyone at all genuinely believe that Plato/Socrates is being unironic in book X of the Republic where he scolds art?
Where does one start with reading this man's books?
Could I just dive right into whatever seems interesting or is there something best for someone new to his works?
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Didn't he die from the disease that made Desiigner a good rapper?
That's Michael J Fox, right?
Down syndrome I mean.
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>reading racist literature
>>>/pol/
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>>8586600
lol ebin :p
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I want to study literature but everyone keeps telling me to go for software engineering instead.
I want to learn to write, but not sure if literature is the right choice because it seems like a glorified high school teacher diploma teaching history of literature.
Will I learn to write like a master if I take some elective classes on grammar and figures of speech and read on the weekends the western canon from the library?
Will I learn to write if I besides studying grammar and figures of speech, learn also oratory and rethoric (maybe take some classes on that)?
What are some classes I can take that would be great towards learning to write?
Creative writing workshops?
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>I want to study literature but everyone keeps telling me to go for software engineering instead.
Then study lit. If you get into a major you have no desire to be in, it's just going to cause trouble for you.
>I want to learn to write, but not sure if literature is the right choice because it seems like a glorified high school teacher diploma teaching history of literature.
It basically is this. You can't learn to write by studying lit, I had several lit professors tell me this flat-out. You learn to write by writing, that's it. A lit degree might not hurt this, and could broaden your horizons a little bit, but will do little to teach you how to write. Get a lit degree if you want to learn how to study lit in an academic sense.
>Will I learn to write like a master if I take some elective classes on grammar and figures of speech and read on the weekends the western canon from the library?
No, not necessarily. Some people have gone that path and become great writers, but they were potential great writers to begin with. 99% of these types are pretentious bullshitters who's stuff is painful to read.
>Will I learn to write if I besides studying grammar and figures of speech, learn also oratory and rethoric (maybe take some classes on that)?
I dunno, won't necessarily hurt, but won't necessarily help.
>What are some classes I can take that would be great towards learning to write?
Creative writing workshops?
None. They can't hurt, but just because you take them it won't necessarily help.
Most great writers will tell you to go to a keyboard, type, do what comes natural. If it's not natural, keep typing until it is.
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>>8586610
look bro.
I'm not a complete newfag in what entails to be a writer.
You can't seriously tell me go to write and you'll become a good writer.
If you haven't studied grammar, oratory, figures of speech, tropes, poetrhy metric, classical metric, rethoric, history, philosophy, theology you WONT BE A GOOD WRITER.
It doesn't matter how much you write if you haven't learn those topics, you will be an average mediocre faggot after 20 years of writing.
YOU CANT REACH A MASTER LEVEL BY JUST BLINDELLY WRITING FAGGOT.
I fucking hate y'all fags who keep telling me to simply write and not study grammar, fuck you.
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>>8586620
You're a thick one.
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I need some help with an essay for school.
The title is "Kilping's poetry from the colonial West justifies imperial and racist sentiments" (to what extent do you agree?)
For the sake of easy points, I'm going with yes, he was racist - but I need some help, how is racism reflected in his poetry? I've talked about the white man's burden, is there any other poems with good examples?
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You want the homework help board friend.
>>>/hm/
good luck
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>>8586577
Post proof that this is a genuine assignment.
You're making this up to have le epic nigger bashing thread on /lit/
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What does /lit/ think about Invisible Man?
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>>8586457
this
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One of my favorite books. It actually made me rethink the history of race and class in America.
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>>8586454
The First book that i was genuenly affected by. I need to read it again.
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What does /lit/ make of the alt right - what are its founding texts? Who publicly disavows it?
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>>8586438
First post; best post.
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>>8586428
>what are it's founding texts
Any /pol/ thread with 200+ replies from 2013 and 2014.
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I find it pretty fascinating. Have we ever seen a right-wing culture jamming movement prior to them?
How come Oscar Wilde is so widely venerated as a cultural icon when he fugged little boys?
>In the company of Oscar Wilde, [André Gide] had several sexual encounters with young boys abroad.
>Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued. […] My joy was unbounded, and I cannot imagine it greater, even if love had been added.
>How should there have been any question of love? How should I have allowed desire to dispose of my heart? No scruple clouded my pleasure and no remorse followed it. But what name then am I to give the rapture I felt as I clasped in my naked arms that perfect little body, so wild, so ardent, so sombrely lascivious? For a long time after Mohammed had left me, I remained in a state of passionate jubilation, and though I had already achieved pleasure five times with him, I renewed my ecstasy again and again, and when I got back to my room in the hotel, I prolonged its echoes until morning.
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>most of his victims were Muslim, probably refugees
Kinda makes u think
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>>8586357
Not making any judgements ;^)? It just seems strange that in a society that condemns pedophilia so strongly, people turn a complete blind eye to the pederasty of major figures.
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>>8586379
>tfw born in the wrong century
At least I won't be around in 2500 when you're only aloud to fuck frumpy 30+ year old women.