Thoughts?
>>8813989
one of my hobbies is reading bible passages in an exaggerated, hysterical southern drawl sometimes for hours at a time; the neighbors once called the police for disturbing them
The historical books are interesting, but to get the most out of them they should be read side by side with contemporary sources. Ecclesiastes is probably the high point of the Old Testament. The prophecies are fun. The poetic books are either shit, or shit in translation. I don't speak Jew.
The New Testament, overall, is a step down. The sermon on the mount is powerful, and getting a first person account of life in Rome is neat, even if that first person happens to be a retard who can't appreciate what he sees around him. But it's not until Revelations that you get any particularly juicy language.
>>8814013
lol'd
How does this stuff get published?
>>8813940
Why is this bad writing?
What constitutes good writing?
According to you, of course.
Not disagreeing with you, just curious about the criteria you use to evaluate.
Someone's bitter about tfw no gd
>>8813940
I'm taste and can confirm that's good writing.
Anything like pic related?
Green Mars and Blue Mars :^)
What are your thoughts on the book?
I read the first chapter or so so far
>>8813917
this book is shitty. no thanks
Are females better translators?
why would you survey literature by gender? that's like servicing your car by doing all the round bits first and coming back for anything that has corners; it's profoundly retarded.
>>8813806
that girl is pretty
i like the way her face looks
i bet she smells like vanilla and pronounces the letter s in a sharp way
brown girls are great
>>8813873
>i bet she smells like curry
What is your absolute favorite book, /lit/?
>>8813791
It's a secret, OP.
>>8813791
I don't think I have ever really liked a novel. If I had to choose it would be Salammbo by Flaubert due to the language, but I still don't like most of it.
>>8813791
Baudolino is sitting on my bookshelf and I am fairly anxious to read it. Did you like it all that much, OP?
Seriously, Im about to graduate with an undergraduate in English Literature and it feels completely useless. I haven't even read any shakespeare for any of my classes, we just read Toni Morrison and James Baldwin. I haven't even read the Canterbury tales.
I should have just gone STEM. I feel like if I go to grad school, I'll have to write a thesis like "How Whitey is Bad in Literature: A Study"
Does anyone else feel this way? Anyone made the switch to STEM late in the game because of how awful humanities are?
How much money have you spent already? I think you're fucked, buddy. Good luck.
>>8813783
I've taken out 70k in loans already. I could probably switch to Math and finish in 2 years. I just feel like I've already wasted 3 years
I'm graduating in the summer with my degree in English Literature and it does feel useless, but I'm going to community college for IT in the near future. Luckily my parents payed for my BA so I have no debt.
Seriously...I can't believe people take out loans for a fucking arts degree. The general rule is that your debt shouldn't exceed the salary of your first year of post-school work.
what mental illness do I have. I feel like my life is worth writing about and People would take pleasure in reading about it . I've never written a single thing and I think I could do it and do it well.
>>8813741
I diagnose you with Special Snowflake Syndrome
>>8813741
give me one unique observation you made today. dont be a pussy, tell me one thing you thought about today that you thought was unique
>>8813762
Ding Ding Ding
>>8813700
Sizes and Bloom aren't pseuds
>>8813700
IGNORE ALL IRONIC-FROGMEN
>>8813700
Stop.
Does anyone else have a very hard time choosing what book to read? Out of the hundreds of books I own about a quarter are unread. I just sit in my chair like a dumb faggot staring at them and can't decide which to read.
It happens like clockwork, I finish a book after being engrossed for hours and then it takes up to a day of agonizing to start the next one. I just wander around my office saying "you stupid fag, you bought these books to read, so just pick one up and start reading you moron."
Autism?
OCD?
Childhood trauma?
Repressed homo feelings?
>>8813688
self absoprtion
>>8813688
>holy shit this book is boring
>i cant wait to read the next one on line
>the same thing happen
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>8813695
>wow this book is amazing, I don't want this to end
>it ends
>can't stop thinking about it
Such is life when working through Russian literature
What's the deal with the Iowa Writer's Workshop? Having grown up and now currently living in Iowa (albiet Des Moines), I was surprised to only recently learn that it was somehow revered. Like because Vonnegut set foot here it now has a better reputation than many coastal programs.
What's up with that? Why does anyone care what happens in this state? Nevermind the recent political spotlight or the new apparent "trendiness". I genuinely don't have a sense of the literary history attached to the program/place, even though I live so close. Is it actually good or am I just in an echo chamber here?
>>8813640
Flannery O'conner came from there, and Carver went there briefly.
>>8813640
>Is it actually good or am I just in an echo chamber here?
Guess It depends on your perspective. But yes, Iowa is considered by all of academia to be the best/most prestigious creative writing program in America for whatever that is worth.
I'm highly skeptical of the writer's workshop/MFA system in America in general and I think contemporary American fiction is in a pretty bad place. I'm willing to wage that in Iowa as anywhere you're going to find the same shitty uninteresting MFA students writing shitty uninteresting crap in a shitty, easily imitateable style about shitty solipsistic nonsense where nothing happens.
>>8813870
>But yes, Iowa is considered by all of academia to be the best/most prestigious creative writing program in America for whatever that is worth.
Huh. Do you think that's based on the history of writers it's produced, or a current sentiment of recent batches?
I want to start with the greeks but I want to read the tragedies before diving into the philosophical teachings, where do I start?
>>8813630
Just read the three major tragedians and Aristophanes if you want
There are many ways to go, but I recommend starting with the Theban plays of Sophocles. As mentioned before, Sophocles, Euripides and Aeschylus are the core of the greek tragedy.
Sup fellas
Have to write a little essay for my journalism course regarding ethics and philosophers who are useful for journalists
Any of you philosophy experts care to give me some pointers?
>>8813563
>kierkegaard in the same category as sartre
top kek
>>8813568
idk senpai it's put together by our professor
care to elaborate?
I'd say you can construe the teachings of any major philosopher to be compatible with the ethics of journalism, if you're creative enough.
Think outside the box a little.
What was his end game?
>>8813528
An anarchist, Christian, peaceful society, which taxed land according to Henry George's book.
>>8813536
so he was an idiot?
>>8813543
He was a genius.
>“The poet only asks to get his head into the heavens. It is the logician who seeks to get the heavens into his head. And it is his head that splits.”
>-G.K. Chesterton
It's the smartest people who take their ideas so far- they have to try to make the world make sense, they want a complete, perfect system.
Tolstoy just took his ideas too far. I love reading him, but I'm not a Tolstoyan anymore.
I am having a bit of an issue.
I've been trying to read Paradise Lost and try as I might I'm incapable of finding anything about the language poetically interesting. It barely reads like poetry to me at all.
I know Milton is hugely respected as a poet, so what is going on here. What am I missing, or is this a common response to him
it's lost on you
>>8813509
You must be a women
If you were living in the 17th century, then yes it would be a common response. Have you tried reading other non-rhyming poetry?
So /lit/, I'm picky as fuck when it comes to fiction, these are the only pieces of fiction I own and I just keep re-reading them, based on the fictional books I enjoy, what can you rec me?
iain banks is trash man, but since you're into edgelord sadistic xd stuff read Story of the Eye
heres a revolutionary idea that will make your hat spin around on your head and then fly away into the sky: more books..by the same writers...?
pynchon