>You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
Why can't Christians follow this simple rule?
>>3009187
Because that's the Mosaic covenant.
>>3009192
/thread
>>3009192
I think God wanted this rule to apply to everyone including Christians
What is the greatest tragedy in western civilization, /his/, and why?
What single event or war had the largest negative outcome for the western world?
I'm almost split between the First World War and the Napoleonic Wars. Let me make my case:
The Napoleonic Wars ended the period of European history, in which the powers fought limited wars, with a few thousand deaths, one state would concede, some territory would change hands, and everything went back to normal more or less. Napoleon unleashed total war for the first time since the Wars of Reformation, and set the stage for all subsequent wars to be fought with near total conscription of the population, setting the stage for the World Wars to follow to be civilization-ending.
At this point you can already see how much of the terribleness of World War 1, I already tie back to Napoleon, but that doesn't let World War 1 off the hook. Europe still hasn't recovered from the trauma of World War 1. It can never recover from that loss. Before it, Europe still valued its own life, and I don't think it has forgiven itself for what it did there, tearing itself apart. Although we have had wars in the past and even the terror of World War 2 since, nothing can match, the degree to which Europe destroyed its own identity and culture in that war.
I think F. Scott Fitzgerald put it best, in my opinion, in Tender is the Night, when his characters looked out at the carnage of just one little battle in the uncounted millions that made up this Death of Civilization:
“General Grant invented this kind of battle at Petersburg in sixty- five.”
“No, he didn’t — he just invented mass butchery. This kind of battle was invented by Lewis Carroll and Jules Verne and whoever wrote Undine, and country deacons bowling and marraines in Marseilles and girls seduced in the back lanes of Wurtemburg and Westphalia. Why, this was a love battle — there was a century of middle-class love spent here. This was the last love battle.”
30 Years War
>>3009184
It was hardly Napoleon who started it, but the French Revolutionary state that was literally in a battle for its very survival with the rest of Europe. If the monarchies hadn't pushed it to the brink, it wouldn't have needed to engage in absolute total war.
The fall of WW1 Empires. The end of monarchism paved the way for cancerous ideologies
What was the most consequential battle in history?
I don't know, but I can give you a top 18 for the past 2500 years:
- Marathon
- Issus
- Zama
- Alesia
- Actium
- Tours
- Paris
- Hastings
- Bouvines
- Baghdad
- Poitiers
- Rocroi
- Vienna
- Valmy
- Austerlitz
- Leipzig
- Marne
- Stalingrad
>>3008335
At a very shaky guess, I'd say Salamis.
>>3008403
.t retard
I mean for fuck's sake, you sometimes manage to score important wars (Greco-Persian, Second Punic, 8th century Islamo-Christian wars), but pick out shitty battles in each case. Marathon was a tiny sideshow next to the second invasion, Tours was tiny next to the sieges of Consantinople. Zama? Carthage had already been effectively crushed before it.
Waterloo
Name a successful matriarchal society.
every bee hive ever
>>3007364
so·ci·e·ty
1.
the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community
peo·ple
1.
human beings in general or considered collectively.
>>3006012
>human
>denial of global warming and other examples of basic science like gender or evolution among both plebs and politicians
>contempt for academics and scientists (at for those who don't pander to Amerifat shortsightedness)
>We Wuz Kangz and other examples of historical revisionism
>Conspiracy Theories
>Electing a man with an underwhelming record in higher education (Dubya)
>Electing a man who loves the undereducated (Trump)
>And so on
Is it having too many Negroes? Or the Puritians?
>>3003990
The US is still more successful than any European country except for Switzerland and maybe Ireland.
>>3003990
>underwhelming record in higher education (Dubya)
I hate Bush but that guy literally graduated from Harvard and Yale. Meanwhile Eurocucks have guys like Martin Schulz, a literal highschool dropout, ruling the EU.
Why is popular media determined to portray the Celts as technologically inferior savages?
Is the Eternal Roman behind it all?
A lot of media does this to barbarian civilizations. They have this idea that Celts and Germanics were all crazy berserkers with tattoos and beards and retarded looking armour. It'd actually be great for once to see costumes that look historically accurate. Much more aesthetic than this retarded bullshit like you see in Vikings or the Last Kingdom.
>>3001929
Rule of cool and general design choices for stylized games.
>>3001929
Because they play on our perceptions of people
And we don't know how widespread this armour was, did just the generals wear chain mail or did it go down to the common man, if so how did the romans BTFO them with stabbing swords
We've had historical photos and waifu threads. Lets a thread with art (mostly modern) that recreates the life of the Ancients. I'll post what I have.
1/?
>>2979546
2/?
>>2979553
3/?
>>2979554
Carthaginians or Phoenicians. Not sure but one of those.
4/?
Did the Romans see the people of north Africa as a different race?
Roman world is split between 2 things, Roman and everyone else
>>3000657
Romans pretty much had three divisions:
>fellow romans and our italic cousins
>effete easterners (even when living west of Rome, like the greek colonists of Marseilles)
>uncultured barbarians
Within these groupings they divided people by nation. Race as in white black yellow wasn't a thing to them. Hardly could be, since they weren't really exposed to anything darker or yellower than gyppos and sarmatians.
>>3000657
They saw them as a different kind of people like the germanics above them and Greeks beside them.
>Chinese dynasties are considered each legitimate successors
>Successors of Rome (the Byzantines, the Holy Roman Empire, the Ottomans, Moscow) get dismissed
Why is this the case? The Chinese dynasties arose from different geographical regions, were based in different capitals, controlled different territories, were ruled by different ethnicities, spoke different languages, and yet the narrative of "4000 years of Chinese history" is often taken for granted. Hell, even the Republic and the People's Republic are considered part of the legitimate succession. Meanwhile, even the Byzantines are dismissed as Greeks LARPing as Romans.
>>2994210
The Byzantine Empire isn't a successor of Rome, it IS Rome. The only ones who deny it are le epic memesters or legitimate retards.
No professional historians dismiss the Byzantine Empire. They consider it to be the same state as the Roman Empire. The Holy Roman Empire, the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire have no relation to the Roman Empire at all, and only claimed the title out of desire for prestige. In actual fact, the Russians and Ottomans never seriously claimed to be the Roman Empire at all, it's just something that gets blown way out of proportion.
>>2994223
If Britain had been conquered by Hitler would Canada have been considered the new Britain?
What are your personal favorite historical books
GG&S
Self bump
>>2989034
Arrian's book on Alexander the Great
>war is bad. Join me!
>civil war
>polish-bolshevik war
>>3011263
Nothing wrong with defending against reactionaries
Those were defensive wars
>>3011282
1st WW also was defensive.
also
>literally invading poland is defensive
>the right wingers will try and kill you before they let you see the true architectural genius of India
>stormfags will tell you whites made them
>Muslims will claim it was their culture that influenced it
Why don't we ever appreciate Indian History? It had its very own cradle of life and can quite possibly be in itself a link to the seed of civilization.
>>3009791
>stormfags will tell you whites made them
This is true though. The good parts of Indian history such as the Maurya Empire and Ashoka were Aryans who were basically white even though the concept of race wasn't a big deal back then. I don't mean to flaunt it around but all of Indias accomplishments are white accomplishments.
>>3009910
The Aryans mixed with the indigenous populations since the Vedic period. Even if that's true Indians are the cultural heirs to the Aryans. (Hungarians and Magyars)
>>3009791
Indian 'people' are the subhuman servant race whose rebellion destroyed Earth's first civilization.
The Aryan civilized the Indian only to be betrayed. Sad.
He has a point, you know?
>guy takes your money
>spends it on things the police to keep your neighbors from stealing your shit
>spends it on the military to enforce national borders to keep foreign armies from occupying your shit
>spends it on public works projects like schools and hospitals so that your neighbors aren't sickly imbeciles who want to steal your shit
>spends it on roads so that you can order your dragon dildos off the internet
>literally invented the internet with tax money
yeah man this is totally comparable to theft, where you get your money removed and have absolutely NOTHING provided in return
>>3007037
guess theft is not theft anymore if you happen benefit from it.
>>3007037
>guy takes your money without your consent to spend it at his sole discretion while telling you that he knows better than you
How true is this?
so deep
>>3006456
truly stimulates your encephalon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws
How does something like this start? Like how does someone suddenly decide "hmmm i wonder what would happen if i broke all the bones in my feet and folded it in to make it smaller"?
>>3004773
traditional chinese callous disregard for life
>>3004773
Probably some noble somewhere mentioning offhandedly that they like small feet, and over time people start to go to more and more extremes to seem appealing to them. Other nobles would've agreed with the first guy (if for no other reason than just to get on his good side) and it becomes self perpetuating.
In other words: footfags ruin everything, again.
>>3004799
first post best