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Let's talk about Andrew "Old Memery" Jackson, /his/.

Did he put the USA on the road to civil war? Did he create democracy or ruin it? What do you think of him?
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>>306436
He killed the second "national" bank. He's a hero for that reason alone.
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>>306441
True, one of his more reasonable acts.
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>>306441
This.

Jackson honestly believed it was his God-given duty to protect the interests of the common American; for this reason he was and continues to be considered insane by the Beltway.

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If you don't accept Spinoza's arguments as sound, why would you defend his method or insist on the consistency of his system and the soundness of his arguments? I often see people saying things like 'Spinoza was the greatest genius of the early modern era, BTFO religion, revealed the true nature of Deus sive Natura...what's that? His definitions are flawed, his method is confusing, and his logic isn't sound by modern standards? Ah, you're right, but all the same, Spinoza's system is correct.'
How do people take this stance? I just do t understand it. It only happens with Spinoza, too. No other philosopher who's popular on 4chan has had so many cases of people defending his system and its logical consistency to the death despite admitting that it's not even valid by the standards of formal logic. If you accept Spinoza's arguments as valid informally, you still have to admit that they're only informal and thus can't be treated the same way a valid formal argument would be treated.
Why do people ride Spinoza's dick so much when they neither agree with him nor think his method is capable of yielding sound arguments? It's literally a case of 'I don't agree with him, but I'm going to endorse him as if I do until you call me out on it, and then, once I've been called out, I'll continue defending a position I admit is wrong just to spite non-Spinozans.' Why does this happen?
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>>306353
soundness and consistency are memes that the rationalist has formalized in order to realize his puerile fantasy of a framework wherein he can use soundness and consistency, since he cannot find it in natural language in his desperate attempt to reach some objectivity in order to avoid any choice at all which scares him to death.

read spinoza and stop worrying about consistency and soundness, as if those concepts are found in natural languages. soundness is nothing but ''I like it'' and unsound arguments are nothing but ''I do not like it'' from people who try to objectivate their feelings, in order to persuade other parties that they are right, since precisely they think that it is the fault of the argument if there are not persuaded, or it is the grace of the reason is they are persuaded. all of this leads to nihilism for they create themselves an outside world which is supposed to be rational and that we must abide by this rationality.
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>>306415
>dude just turn your brain off lmao
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>>306415
>the rationalist
Are you the same idiot who doesn't understand the definitions of rationalism and empiricism in every thread?
>read spinoza and stop worrying about consistency and soundness
It's hard to do that and care what he thinks when he literally this ks his system is logically correct and bases all of his claims off of geometric proofs while claiming his conclusions are co sostwnt with his definitions and axioms.
I don't even disagree with your assessment of the nature of Logic as just a part of natural language that logicians privilege too much, I just don't understand why an ardent antirationalist would defend Spinoza, one of the 2 great rationalists of his century.

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when will this meme of socialism end?

moreover how can anyone actually believe in it
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>I lack critical thinking skills and genuinely can't understand that people disagree with me
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>>306312
Yeah right because capitalism works so well.
Also, what a poor excuse for a thread.
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>>306318
>Says someone who probably bitches about /pol/

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Capable rulers in incapable empires.
I'll start.
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>>306212
>late 18th century america
>an empire
u wot
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>>306209
He certainly halted the decline of the Byzzies for a time but ultimately he made it way too dependent on "capable" Komnenos rulers. Once an incapable one came along it was all ogre.

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Did he fix Spain or did he ruin it further?
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>>306113
ruin it obviously
whoever thinks otherwise is an idiot
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>>306117

>Implying Spain would be better off as a Soviet puppet state

Franco stopped the mass murders of middle class people, the clergy, and political conservatives.

His economic policies right after the war were foolish, but his implementation of a more open economy resulted in an economic boom for Spain
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>>306141
>a Soviet puppet state
the republic was a democracy, never a communist state. Political conservatives ruled the country for two years (CEDA), until there were new elections. The people of Spain voted for the Republic and elected its leaders until the military intervened and stripped off the people's freedoms. Please go back to /pol/.

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Why has Britain (and the city of London) historically been associated with international financial manipulation in the minds of Americans and other Europeans. Is there any truth to the idea that the UK exploits the rest of the world through financial means? If not, why do people believe this?
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Britain being island jews pitting the continentals against each other is an age old thing. And London being the oldest of the great economic centres of the world sure does lend it credibility.
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Because people believe some bullshit chivalrous notion that dominating others through force is more "honourable" than dominating them through financial means. If muh anglos had put their puppets on thrones across europe through economic means that would be bad, napoleon doing it through violent conquest is good.
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>>306091
>Is there any truth to the idea that the UK exploits the rest of the world through financial means?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire

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Does anyone else here immensely enjoy haplogroups and population genetics?

There have been many times when I find that some ancient piece of text refers to a people related to others which is confirmed by haplogroups.
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>>306084
where does this map comes from? are there any further indications? I'd like to know the haplogroup of my zone.
to answer your question: I love this kind of studies, I've read som Cavalli-Sforza, but I hate when /pol/tards use it to support some wacky racist theory. If it is done seriously, it is a great field of studies
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Is this Carthaginian legacy in Tunis? And why South Italy differs so much from North Italy?
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>>306114
because they had some celtic and norrenic influence, we had greek-arab-phoenicians influence.
Sicilyfag here

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Has there ever been a dictator who changed his country for the better more than this guy?

He's definitely the most successful that's lived in our lifetime at least.
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>>306037
>changed his country for the better
Even if you're a nazi you should disagree since his failure pushed Germany in the completely opposite direction and the war ended with Germany literally getting raped and partitioned.

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"You turned them agaisnt me!"
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YOU HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELF - Marcus Brutus
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>>305892
"YOU WILL NOT TAKE THE SENATE FROM ME"
-Julius Caesar
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HE WAS A BIG GUY OF ROME

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Has familial closeness always been a part of humanity or is family just a marketing gimmick invented to fuel another capitalist money grab?
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>>305694
Families were closer before the invention of modern electronic technology and entertainment mediums.
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>>305719
I just find that amazing.
I have nieces and nephews living in the same town I have met maybe three times. I don't think they know my name
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>>305694
>Has familial closeness always been a part of humanity or is family just a marketing gimmick invented to fuel another capitalist money grab?
You do know the first fucking societies in the world was the family unit right?

Like people are already "racist" to you because you're from another clan village back in the real early days.

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Sup /his/, something different for a change: any fans of legal history here?

For the past week I've been working on an essay on the czech legal history and I have to say, it's a fascinating new perspective on history.
Unfortunately there is this gigantic circlejerk of every author here on the continent of
>muh roman law

The fucking french made an awesome civil code, so the germans of course made theirs way too technical. Meanwhile, you got the british hanging on to their 'fuck any systematic law' attitute.
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>>305570
Czech legal system is based on Austrian law
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>>305570
>the czech legal history and I have to say, it's a fascinating new perspective on history.
elaborate
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>>305581
Can we discuss Krtek history instead? He's way more based that some law garbage.

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why didn't we (by we, the americans) forcibly integrate the native americans instead of pushing them off more and more of their land?
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>>305436
Because Anglos.

Spaniards integrated their subject Natives.
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I don't know their thought process, but, I think that they thought of it as too much of a hassle and them as too much of a threat.

Or Anglos.
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>>305436
Because you can't forcibly integrate people, it's literally impossible.

>won the Phi Beta Kappa Award in Science
>won the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction
>wone the Royal Society's Rhône-Poulenc Prize for Science Books
>The National Geographic Society produced a documentary for PBS

Why is this not the history book to end all history books /his/?


Redpill me on this gem, I'm all ears.

I very much need opposing viewpoints on this and seek them for any topic but I feel like Diamond has conclusively and successfully explained his theory and there's no room for improvement but very much would like to see if it can be picked apart.

please no /pol/ bullshit and no half assed domestication arguments from people that don't understand what domestication is, just a serious deliberation on the ideas put forth by this book
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I'm sure you meant well OP but I can't be the only one who's fucking sick of talking about this.
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>>305191
haven't read the book personally but i have this saved

what's your take on it senpai?
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This AGAIN?

It's not a bad book, especially as an introduction to this sort of thing, but it attributes way too much to geography when there are certainly other factors that contribute to the success of certain civilizations. It also fails to address some of the more obvious criticisms.

What did the Celts actually believe? I've read several times that they weren't truly polytheistic and instead were animists, is this some crazy fringe theory or is it legit?
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Mainly neo-platonists
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>>305120
Just no.

>>305117
Paganism, which is by default polytheistic
Many pagan "deities" have animal forms or representatives, it's a bit muddled.

Think ancient egypt, man-animals are quite common pagan gods.
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>>305117
Their Gods usually could morph into animals, but they weren't animists.
Heck, they weren't even that polytheistic, since the commonly recorded Keltoi "Gods" (Children of Danu) were more akin to elves who were just really powerful, but gave up the ghost when humans (Celts) decided to mosey on through, so they receded into the world and became Fae.
Danu was the progenitor of them, and The Dagda was closer to the Christian belief of God, but still more happily interactive with the Children of Danu, and the Celts.

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Can any other Christians rate and comment om the prayer I just wrote.

In the Holy Spirit, Son of God, and the Supreme Father,
Until I feel love of God, I go to God.
By practicing Generosity and so forth,
In order to benefit beings, may I feel love of God.
Lord, unmarred by imperfection, body white in color,
whose head is ornamented with a perfect light,
gazing on beings with the eye of love,
to God I reverently pray.
On the crown of my head and the heads of all beings filling space,
Upon a white cloud and moon disk, is the word of GOD.
From this word appears the Supreme Exalted One God.
Luminescent white, radiating five-colored rays of light,
He gazes with eyes of love.
He is adorned with garmets of silk and precious ornaments
He is crowned by the Holy Spirit, the manifestation of Boundless Light.
his back is supported by an immaculate moon disk.
He is, in essence, all the sources of prayer combined.
light rays emanating from the Exalted One’s body
forgives sinful actions and appearances, and confused mental states.
The outer environment becomes the land of Heaven
For the beings within, their body, speech and mind
become the body, speech and mind of the Lord;
appearances, sounds and mental states becomes inseparable from the Trinity.
The bodies of myself and others, all appearances, are the form of the Exalted One;
all sounds are the melody of angels;
all mental constructs are the expanse of awareness of God.
By the virtue of this activity,
may I quickly gain the love of the Lord,
and having done so, then establish all beings
without exception in that same state.

At the conclusion of the prayer, think that God bathes you and all beings in purifying light, washing away your ignorance and negativities. He then dissolves into light and merges with you, blessing your soul.
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>>305063
nl;dr
(not latin didn't read)
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>>305063
>From this word appears the Supreme Exalted One God.
>Luminescent white, radiating five-colored rays of light,
>He gazes with eyes of love.

This is how gay I felt when I read your prayer. Also Jesus was black, or at least brown, not luminescent white.
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>>305063
Here's the real deal senpai, is this just a fancy-worded prayer, or actual connection?

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