what do you think about Göbekli Tepe?
it's rather extraordnary
>over 9 000 BC
>megalithic structure predating Stonhenge by thousands of years
>buried around 7 - 8 000 BC for unknown reasons
>predates agriculture
>built by hunter-gatherers
thoughts? I find it fascinating, but I wonder who built it. there were no Semites in the area at that time. was it the proto-Sumerians?
link for everyone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
>>308520
There's no reason hunter-gatherers would be incapable of building monumental structures its that they have less reason to aggregate in one area than agriculturalists although sites such as starr carr saw seasonal occupation and hence more developed structures.
>>308520
Could one group have started it as a shrine, another group finds it and adopts it as such, and instead of fighting over it they both agree to use it in cooperation, and the whole thing snowballs from there?
Thread for atheists and those who are interested in being atheists. Questions and answers welcome.
Tell me about the Armenians /his/
Basically the last remnant left of Alexanders dream of a united Persian-Greek empire.
>>308376
Why do they wear the green?
>>308419
Could you elaborate?
What caused continental philosophy to become to laughingstock of the intellectual world? Was it their unwillingness to side with science?
Also who are you favorite analytical philies?
>>308340
>>308340
>Why do people who agree with me share my distaste for a certain group
hurr durr
It is and isn't a laughing stock depending on the university you are in, even down to the department.
Also
>implying the historical context of a philosophy isn't incredibly important.
Why is more important than when and what.
They thought that by writing gibberish, they would appear smart. Eventually, people started parsing their texts... To find out it had no meaning.
>>308373
Find me one example of a continental text that is "nonesense".
And I will show you how you have completely failed to understand it.
What went wrong?
>>308033
Nationalism. It is a sad story.
Accordions
too isolationist + tried to mend it's deep cultural and religious problems solely with nationalism which is unsustainable
Why are the Alans so obscure compared to the other major tribes of the Migration Period? Were they just not considered cool enough?
>>307882
they were only considered alans in the mid ages and sarmatians in the ancient times when they started to heavily mix with the slavs
What do you think happened to them eventually?
>>307897
See the expansion of R1a1
And also they were pushed towards Georgia to become the Ossetians
People who did nothing wrong.
Hurr he defended his homeland but he was cruel and had Dracula nickname he was such a le villain.
>HURR DURR EATING CEREAL IS NOTHING LIKE DATING A GIRL
fuck off, its an analogy
He had a hard fucking life all things considered and Matthias Corvinus should have been impaled for what he did to him.
>not liking the impaler
I've heard a lot of conflicting reports, but I don't actually know the truth.
My elementary school religion teacher said Denmark converted and allied themselves with Germany before waging war on the other Scandis and forcibly converting them, Someone I know told me parts of Norway were the first to convert, after having brought over christian thralls from their raids, and I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that it was all a slow crawl of peaceful conversion after peaceful conversion, with very little force involved in any of it.
What exactly made the Vikings decide to stop believing in the Norse pantheon?
>elementary school religion teacher
How is this even a thing? Do you live in Saudi Arabia?
>>307800
Do they not teach you religious studies in whatever country you're from? That seems like a pretty big gap in your education.
Saint Olaf
ITT: We discuss the history, learning, and everything related to ancient languages. Ask, answer, share, discuss.
Anything Latin, Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, etc. is welcome here.
>>307571
shit map
>>307587
Why? Looks good to me.
>>307618
It's not a shit map, it just has one shitty mistake: grouping armenian into the family of caucasian languages.
Does proselytising work on 4chan? Has anybody here ever changed their religious beliefs due to this site?
yeah man some neckbeard here showed me the light and now I'm gonna suicide bomb myself right in my asshole thanks mates
>>307416
I used to be a commie living in a fantasy world, but I gradually became a nationalist with some libertarian views.
>>307436
sounds hot
In a civil law system do the courts have the power to 'read into law' different rights into the constitution or bill of rights?
By that I mean the US supreme court ruled a ban on gay marriage unconstitutional which is what made gay marriage legal; it wasn't government legislation that legalized it.
Whereas in Mexico the supreme court recently ruled the law banning marijuana for personal use violated the constitution because of privacy rights, however the supreme court ruling in Mexico wasn't biding and pot is still illegal whereas the supreme court ruling in the US, a common law country, was binding and in effect legalized gay marriage.
Do supreme court's really have much power in civil law countries ?
In theory you're right, as Anglo law is based on precedents and you can't just pull stuff out of your ass. In practice it's all politics.
They have a whole lot of power yes.
>>306994
Elaborate
Name 3 things that aren't spooks
>>306932
Me
I
Myself
le spooky drawn man
>>306932
Blood, Goats, and Children.
Post extinct peoples/cultures
Starting off with Forest Finns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Finns
Pretty much every indo-iranian tribe living in the steppes of CA and the Caucasus. But mostly wondering what happened to the Scythians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians
Considering Herodotus described them to all have red hair and blue/green eyes unlike the other nomads of turkic origin.
>>306893
Most likely they just assimilated into the more successful Sarmatians, who also ended up disappearing
>>306893
The Scythians probably never existed as a distinct culture. Herodotus basically just used the term to describe everyone central Asian group of people, and even made distinctions about different types of them.
Why don't we discuss the 3000+ years of recorded Chinese history?
This thread is dedicated to people who have questions or want to discuss Chinese history. Now of course 3000+ years is a lot and covering it all in just one thread will not do. So lets mainly talk about the rise of Taiping and the Qing Dynasty in its effort to modernize. Though any questions and discussion about other periods in Chinese history are welcomed.
I had a Western education therefore I know nothing of China aside from Europe selling China opium and the Boxer Rebellion.
On January 11, 1851,his 38 birthday, Hong Xiuquan formally declared the establishment of the Heavenly Kingdom of Peace (Taiping Tianguo) with himself as absolute ruler, at Jintian village in Guangxi. He ordained that he be called sovereign (chu) and reserved the title shang for God and Jesus.The rebellion was proclaimed to be a native uprising against the Manchu oppressors with a heavenly mandate.
Taiping's goal was not only to overthrow the ruling Manchu, but to modernize. The humiliating defeat China saw at the hand of the Western powers could not stand.
>>306803
The Opium wars is one of the leading reasons for the Taiping uprising. After the western powers rekt China, their whole world viewed collapsed, considering China had successfully dealt with them before. So of course, the population blamed the Manchu rulers.
What's /his/ opinion of Taoism, in general?
Was Taoism ever "important" in history, like Confucianism was in China?
Or was it always a tradition of / for hermits and mystics?
Also I wonder: has Taoism any merits for modern societies?
I've always liked the basic ideas of Taoism, also practiced a little Qi Gong and T'ai Chi.
My favourite books are Tao Te Ching and Zhuangzi, by the way.
"Daoism" is an artificial category when referred to as a kind of Western-style religion. Daoist mystics existed but the tradition had a major influence on East Asian literature, philosophy, and culture in general that wasn't confined to what we would call 'devotional' or 'religious' phenomena. Daoism as a set of rituals is really just a slight formalization of the Chinese folk religion synthesized with a dank philosophy.
I've never understood why Taoism was never a "thing", only in modern times (in the West, I mean) - it's healthy, it's kinda neutral and anyone can practice it.
I think the answer is in passivity.
And it's too peaceful; history is full of wars and conquests - there is no profit in peace...
Daoism was something the lower class could get into. To be a proper Confucian scholar you needed wealth and prestige sufficient to attract a suitable tutor. Even Kong Zi himself was considered too poor to study, until he got a lucky break.