Can somone recomend some good historical books in the likes of conn iggulden, i have allready read conn iggulden ,simon cornwell and simon scarrow books and i wonder if there is any auther in the likes you can recomend
>>523693
Try Bernard Cornwell. He's written books on vikings, 100 year war and napoleonic war.
Just finished a good book, "Looking Forward to the Spring" by Caty Hammock.
>>523704
lol i wrote the sam guy twice, Bernard Cornwell was meant to be in there to, i have read the viking and 100 year war but i have to look up the napolenic war ty for the tip
ITT: DINDU NUFFINs thread
>>523448
He did the world a favor
His cause was just, he can't be helped the rest of the ruling elite was idiots.
Why do semites write backwards?
Why do Westerners write backwards?
>>522713
Assuming that most people are right handed, writing left to right makes sense, it's the natural and easier motion for a guy holding a pen.
back in the day there was no standard direction to write, it was common for people to write both ways, even on the same paper, alternating on each line. The west eventually settled on left to right, while the east did the opposite.
Hey /his/ I was wondering
Exactly how bloody was the muslim conquest?
My housemate is a history buff and she told me that muslims just came to places and declared it to be under muslim ocntrol and only ever fought when they were opposed by an army
Futhermore she claims people had many freedoms like freedom of religion and people who were a part of the muslim caliphate experienced a golden age
Is this true?
It seems hard to believe that a conquest would be peaceful
>>522052
They weren't any more bloody than Roman, Byzantine, or Persian campaigns, they were just more rapid because of the lack of opposition. Plus the Arabs didn't raze cities and towns to the ground like the Mongols would.
>freedom of religion
In the early caliphate, Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians were allowed to practice their religion but they weren't permitted to build new religious buildings without consent, display religious symbols on buildings, or ring church bells.
>>522052
>only ever fought when they were opposed by an army
That's accurate, but that's generally what invading armies do unless they're deliberately trying to raid or plunder.
The conquest of Egypt was achieved with a small force of around 4000 that was bolstered by defections and Bedouin tribes to around 12000 by the time Alexandria surrendered.
>muslims just came to places and declared it to be under muslim ocntrol
Again, pretty much. In the Rashidun period Islam was very much a Arab-centric religion so conversion was dissuaded. They'd turn up, leave a garrison, and move on.
>people had many freedoms like freedom of religion and people who were a part of the muslim caliphate experienced a golden age
The "golden age" is a bit of a meme, for the most part life just continued as normal. Arabic wouldn't replace Coptic and Greek as Egypt's first language until almost 500 years after the conquest
>>522052
It was relatively peaceful given the amount of land conquered in a short amount of time. This may have been helped by the fact that the Eastern Romans and Persians had simply exhausted themselves through the last war, and the populace of the respective empires had grown disillusioned and likely to capitulate. As a result, there wasn't much opposition to the Arabs- therefore the Arabs didn't have to resort to much violence in subduing the population.
The early Muslims were quite fair in respecting local religions if they paid a Jizya tax( keep in mind that Muslims paid a Zakat tax). The "spread by the sword"meme propagated by conservative historians is a bit dishonest considering that most conquered areas didnt even become majority Muslim for centuries. Persia for example was Zoroastrian well into the Abbasid era and Christianity was long very prevalent in Egypt and the levant.
Tell me about pre islamic arabia, /his/.
Were they advanced scientifically, compared to their contemporaries?
>>519672
Why?
>>519658
Before Islam, can you name one famous Arab or Berber? Seriously I'll wait.
Unfortunately, the Islamic Golden Age has come to mean Arab Golden Age which could not be farther from the truth, as the biggest contributors were Persian, Turkish, and Spanish.
Don't even try and mention Mesopotamian and Assyrians... they were a completely different "breed".
>>519658
Yes OP, the pre-Islamic Arabs all lived in buildings larger than the Burj Khalifa, drove around in even more guady 4x4s, and could extract their yearly amount of oil production in a day
Then Islam came along and ruined it all. I imagine they must've been pissed off considering how they now had to live in Mediaeval conditions
Oh, that dang Islam!
We have a required reading thread up but I want to know what /his/ is currently reading.
Pic semi related. Been listening to this while I've been working after getting a copy of it for free.
The Peloponnesian War - Donald Kagan
Very enjoyable so far. Nice to see different interpretations rather than just knowing Thucydides'.
Going through Susan Bauer's 'history of the world' series, currently on the second book.
>>519429
How has the series been so far?
Can the depopulation of Native Americans be objectively considered genocide? Even if the biggest cause of deaths among Native American tribes inadvertent contact with disease for which they had no immunity to? Is it too politically correct and motive to use a broad definition of genocide that encompasses unintentional epidemics?
No, no, and yes.
The fact that most were killed by disease doesn't negate the genocidal practices by European and later on American governments. The smallpox of flu outbreaks doesn't mean the Trail of Tears never happened.
>>533714
Yeah, but it's pretty over-simplistic to state that Native Americans were as a whole victims of genocide.
Daily reminder, that during one point of history, Swedes had a most disciplined and combat-able army in the entire world.
look at them now.
They did
Probably my ancestors fought in it as well
>>521725
And had 0 significance in Global History whatsoever.
This thread is about books that are critical to a general understanding of history.
Please post an image of the cover as well as a link to where it can be purchased, along with a small summary and why it is worth reading.
I'll start.
The Inheritance of Rome
Chris Wickham
This is the quintessential tome of knowledge in regards to a modern, factually accurate understanding of what is known as the Dark Ages. It covers a span of 600 years, which is an immense timeframe for a single history book to cover with good detail, but it does so spectacularly. Wickham covers the general chronological development between the decline of Roman Imperial authority to the beginnings of Europe as we know it.
He takes a time period that is generally a mystery to most people and breaks down the political, theological, and migratory developments of each specific piece of the European stage as well as the Mid East. By the time you are down with this book, you will have a comprehensive understanding of the Early Middle Ages and what exactly happened during them, as well as the significance of the societal breakdowns and eventual rebuilding of new ones in their place.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Inheritance-Rome-Illuminating-400-1000/dp/0143117424
The Histories of Herodotus
You'd be a pleb not to.
>>508474
>Herodotus
>Historian
Pick one
Obvious, most important work ever written on history.
Sins of the Western civilization through history.
Are they grave enough to justify the current trend of Western nations sacrificing themselves and their citizens (children from Rotherham, women from Cologne) to Muslims and other such immigrants? Is it justified that news don't want to report speficic instances of these sacrifices? And that progressives ignore them?
Please discuss according to /his/ rules, this isn't /pol/.
>>536024
They let them in because of the economic growth it brings. Free workers which you dont need to educate again.
Also, you made this a /pol/ thread the second you stated >Western nations sacrificing themselves and their citizens (children from Rotherham, women from Cologne) to Muslims and other such immigrants?
Why would it be a sacrifice in the first place?
>>536055
>Why would it be a sacrifice in the first place?
What else could it be? Why else would authorities overlook it? They clearly wanted to atone for the sins of the West.
>>536064
This is a /pol/ statement
anarchism thread
will anarchism ever work?
is there any example of a working social-anarchic societal system?
>>531999
Anarchist here.
It can literally ONLY work if the vast majority of the populace is made up of anarchists, something like 70% minimum. Otherwise statists have plenty of strength to reestablish coercive organization and thus the state.
(Also voluntarist anarchism is the only true anarchism)
revolutionary catalonia, free ukrainian territory
inb4 "anarcho"-capitalist /pol/aks shitting up the thread
Who else /pacifist/ here?
>tfw war is sweet to those who have never experieneced it
>>531205
How is this not a political stance?
>>531206
Who said it wasn't?
>>531206
Philosophy?
What went wrong?
White/Afrikaner ethnocentrism
Why is Africa so unstable compared to other former colonies? i.e Australia, New Zealand, America etc
>>530165
AIDS
Has there ever been a successful socialist state besides Nazi Germany?
Reminder that nordic countries are welfare capitalist.
Nice b8
Ah yes, I remember the socialist state of Germany
The one where the means of production were owned by such socialist governments as IG Farben, Krupp, Porsche, Mauserwerke, Siemens, Opel, Volkswagen, Rheinmetall, Focke-Wolfe, Messerschmidt, Junkers and Zeppelin.
And of course one can't forget the lack of aristocrats in leading position: Generalfeldmarschallen Von Manstein, Von Below and Colonel Von Stauffenberg were all just happy coincidences
And really can one forget their universal employment scheme?
Of course their victory over the USSR solidified their position as successful socialists
2/10 made me reply
>>529304
Strasser and Röhm got rekt before any of the "socialist" parts out of national socialist could be applied...
Does Canada count ? :(
Can any Orthodox prove that icons were ever used before 300 AD? If not, how can the church claim to be carrying on the tradition of the first apostles?
The same way they can claim Jesus actually existed and wasn't just some mythological representation unto which they could project their christian beliefs:
Just bullshit your way through it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dura-Europos_synagogue
>>529245
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depiction_of_Jesus