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>>866297
>unfounded bullshit sounds smart if I word it cleverly!

The only spook in this post is you even thinking that it's relevant.

Regardless, what is generally agreed upon is that several weeks into the occupation of Nanking large numbers of Chinese civilians and prisoners of war were killed. I'm going to attempt to tackle this book chapter by chapter by comparing it to the more credible works of centrist and great massacre historians.
In the introduction Tanaka rightfully critiques Chang's seriously flawed The Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of World War II, arguing (quite correctly) the nature of the Holocaust in Europe differed quite substantially from what happened in Nanking. He then criticizes the Japanese government for not having a backbone and not countering Chang's “lies, hyperbole and propaganda”. Again, while his critique of Chang is somewhat correct I don't think it's the state's job to carry out the work of historians. Tanaka goes onto defend General Iwane Matsui, the commander-in-chief of the Central China Area Army and who was (in my opinion wrongly) ultimately held responsible for the massacres that occurred during and after the battle of Nanking, citing his order that

“The entrance of the Imperial Army into the capital of a foreign nation is a historic event. The attention of the world will be focused on you. You are to observe military regulations to the letter, to set an example for the future” (Tanaka, What Really Happened in Nanking, 2000, pp 3).
Evidently, this order went unheard. Tanaka emphasizes the humanitarian side of Gen. Iwane Matsui by highlighting the shrine and memorial tablet he had dedicated to KMT soldiers killed in action. Through this, Tanaka is attempting to create an image of a benevolent army which valued the life of its Chinese enemy. As noted earlier, this view is not widely held among Japanese historians, and as we will see for good reason.

Chapter 1: Defining “Massacre”
Tanaka attempts to give his own definition of a massacre, defining it as
“The unlawful, premeditated, methodical killing of large numbers of innocent people” (Ibid, pp 7).
Believing that nothing out of a combat situation occurred in Nanking, he asks then why the battle of Iwo Jima is not referred to as the “Iwo Jima Massacre” when more soldiers allegedly died there than in Nanking. There are two main issues with this. The most obvious one is that there were no mass executions of prisoners of war or captured plainclothes soldiers on Iwo Jima (the latter which Tanaka does not deny the occurrence of in Nanking). Secondly, his claim that more people were killed in Iwo Jima than in Nanking does not stand up to scrutiny when compared to the sources of the time. For instance, the Japanese Army on the 29th of December, 1937, announced 84,000 Chinese soldiers had been killed in Nanking (Masahiro Yamamoto, Nanking: Anatomy of an Atrocity, 2000, pp. 88). Tanaka disregards this estimate later on in the book, calling it an exaggeration. However, the Japanese 65th Regiment's battle report cited a similar figure of 58,774 (ibid). On the lower end, we have New York Times correspondent F. Tillman Durdin who estimated 33,000 Chinese had been killed, 20,000 of which had been executed (ibid). It should be noted these estimates do not include Japanese war dead which undoubtedly was in the several thousands. Nonetheless, it can be safely assumed there were drastic differences between the battle of Iwo Jima and the Fall of Nanking both in terms of what happened in the number of fatalities.

This is some terminal level of autism.

>>865753
Man, I tried to find a relevant image to the question, but not many of them really showed what I was talking about. I was just trying to make some guide to whatever the fuck I'm saying

>>865733
It depends how you view ethnic groups.

If you apply the same rationale to the whole world, then it's basically like that everywhere on the planet except the supercolonised countries.

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There was pic related in the Paleolithic

>The three people buried at Sungir were all adorned with elaborate grave goods that included ivory-beaded jewelry, clothing, and spears. More than 13,000 beads were found (which would have taken 10,000 hours to produce).

>>865565
Interesting. Don't suppose you know of any similar sites in the Neolithic? Or any similar sites in Britain before the Bronze Age?

>>865565
Also interesting to see the position of the hands. Most face-up burials either have the arms to the side, over the chest, or holding onto items, whereas this burial has the hands covering the groin... maybe relevant to fertility? In which case it could have some religious connotations.

I have no clue but I think a fair guess would be related to the different kinds of materials in each of the continents, in such a way that they developed different weapons and armor because of the local geographic resources.

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>>865343
by the traditional rules you could agree to duel with almost any weapon in japan, even a bow. The sword was popular because it was the side arm of choice, and and when warfare ended they just carried a lighter and shorter version of the same sword rather than changing the core morphology.

>>865343

Because then, as now, the Japanese were a homogenous society of weirdos. Thrusting is simply more efficient in unarmoured duels. The Japanese, however, don't give a fuck about efficiency; hence the tea ceremony. Yumi are also profoundly shit bows, their swords are too ridiculously short to be useful, their polearms are universally inferior to European designs, and their armour was immensely badly designed before the sengoku jidai. These things were allowed to continue because nobody bothered to invade Japan because it has nothing you'd worth taking, and so they had no one else to contend with apart from themselves.

sometimes there are 3

>>865202
This is nuanced on many scales, the inclination in politics of rights to be conservatives. They are the ones who see the world as it is at the moment. They are needed to meet the task in front. The left dream of how the world ahead can be. They are needed to establish the world ahead. However, once that world is established the right is needed to move forward and build the world ahead. Hence the world must move on a pendulum. However the positive right and negative left do not move in the same way. The right moves in a straight line, moving steady and gradually. The left stays in the back and thinks of the world in the far point ahead, and put forth the ideas to form that dot. While the negatives create that dot the positives lead society forward to reach that goal. Positives are active because they must face the world ahead and move. The negatives are passive because they stay back and dream of the point the collective sum of souls want to reach. The positives and negatives are the two parts of every spirit called the Collective Spirit.
The world is therefore both dualistic and one. There are two great creative forces in the world, what many interpret to be gods.

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>>865202
Often time spirits are put into roles.Negatives are the cool hues of the universe. The cold temperature, the dark night, the moon, the mother's gentleness. They are submissive, more passive, and bring forth the future. Positives are the warm hues of the universe. The heated temperatures, the bright day,the sun, the father’s guidance. They are dominant, more active, and pull forth to reach that future. The two forces make the sphere of Collective spirit.

YOU'VE CONVINCED ME YOU ARE AMAZING GOOD JOBBBBBBB

This is cool and all, but I'd expect any /his/torian to know this. Doubt you'd find some Dawkins or Harris lover on here.

>>865071

>1) Claims about metaphysical claims are themselves metaphysical claims

This isn't obvious and needs defending. This doesn't apply in analogous cases. For instance, the claim "phrenological claims are universally false" is not a phrenological claim, it is a claim ABOUT phrenology, not a claim WITHIN phrenology.

No, while powerful, the Aztecs were in no way a world power. They didn't even know most of the world existed.

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>>864978

Mesoamerica =/= Mexico

Aztecs =/= Mexicans

>>864963
I would say that while it was new spain, it definetaly a world power due to gdp, and just by seeing those old cities you can see how rich it was.
then in the 50s, 60s, it probably was the most powerful of the non aligned countries. it had a super infrastructure for the population, and a nuclear capabilities. I mean, no other country at the time could take communists and such without an american invasion except mexico. then at the beginning of the 70s as the government started losing power, and the united states really tried to make a coup happen in 1968 the country really went to hell. it's always has had a huge fucking economy, but with huge wage disparity.

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>greatest mass-murders were Eurasian
>
mfw

>>863571
>asian inceldom
>white ambition
literally the stupidest shit ever written

>>863571
>Leopold II
>Mao Zedong
>Hitler
>Pol Pot
>Stalin
"Eurasians"

>>863369
the german giraffe parades are shaping quite nicely this year

Well Europeans did leave some infrastructure behind (railways, harbors and such) but because Europeans left such a mess of government behind there was no one to take care of those.

it sucks because i know the only reason i have all of this shit, is because some poor asshole built it for me in some shit hole 3rd world somewhere.... feels bad man.

>>863058
Hi redd!t.

>>863072
>anything I don't like is reddit

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My drive back home from school is seven and a half hours. Always difficult to hold off listening to his new shows before the next break.

It would split up again

The big blue blob takes the northern part of it.

>>863022
No war in Italy with France and Spain.

Well, I suppose there wouldn't have been all that fighting between Anglicans and Catholics now, would it?

This also changes North Americans, because it's not Puritans migrating, but Catholics - UNLESS Britain pulls a Netherlands/Geneva and goes Protestant during the Reformation.

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Shelly and Blake murder the pope

>>862858

WASC does not sound as good, they will need another labell.

Theodora

Olga of Kiev

>>862902
>tfw Olga will never step on you

It was too rad to last

>>862559
Do you agree that they were within their rights to say "Fuck the king" and set up shop on New Providence?

>>862566
yep