ITT: people who died just at the right time because they were going to fuck things up
>>1120978
Tamerlane was set to invade China actually. But he thankfully died.
Dunno if he'd be successful. Because if he did he'd be facing Yongle, who was a military genius in his own right and was actually wrecking the shit out of the Mongs.
>>1120995
To be fair Tamrlane fucked a lot of things up before dying.
post your emotions regarding this GIF.
>>1120886
Indifferent, is from Gallipoli campaign or something?
>>1120886
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3577177/A-right-royal-mess-Man-s-selfie-126-year-old-statue-16th-century-Portuguese-king-ends-disaster-knocks-smashes-pieces.html
>The 24-year-old climbed the statue's pedestal in order to get a perfect selfie. But he toppled the revered 126-year-old statue off and it smashed into bits. He tried to flee from scene, but authorities caught up with him soon after.
normies ruin everything
Unemployment was a mistake
>>1120815
>Statue of Dom SebastiĆ£o
Nothing of value was lost.
Wasn't he that idiot that got himself killed by Moroccans?
Was William Shakespeare a real person?
He was a horse.
>>1120742
In the future this what will be taught in all schools around the world. Even posting it as a joke is bad.
>>1120731
Was tupac a real person?
Who's that one annoying slav philosopher?
Marx
>>1120684
Nah nah the one that's alive.
>>1120677
Plato
Were fairy tales "sanitized" in the 20th century, as is so often claimed in various online articles?
Should people blame Disney for the sanitation of fairy tales--particularly starting with their animated films from the 1930s-50s (Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty)--when only one of these (Snow White) was based on a version with darker elements that Disney removed? And some of the Grimm fairy tales, such as Aschenputtel, are considerably newer than earlier versions like Perrault's Cinderella, which contains none of the eye pecking or foot slicing of the Grimm version?
I think it was a result of fairy tales going from brutal cautionary tales to fetishistic escapism for children and/or little girls.
You would be amazed if you knew how many fairy tales have hidden sexual connotations.
To some extent, yes. But mostly no.
Those online articles tend to take the "Grittiest" version of a fairy tale and use it to imply Disney and/or parents sanitized them. But Aschenputtel is not The Little Glass Slipper, The Sleeping Beauty in the Wood is not Sun Moon and Talia, etc. So when an article brags about how Disney sanitized Cinderella because the stepsisters don't get their eyes pecked out, or because Sleeping Beauty wasn't raped, well... neither of those Disney films were based on those fairy tales.
The only Disney film based directly on a Grimm fairy tale was Snow White, which was altered. Instead of the piece of cursed apple being dislodged from Snow White's throat (because she was slapped by a servant tired of carrying her dead ass around in 1812, in later editions because the servant tripped on the way to the king's castle) it's true love that wakes her; instead of the queen showing up at the wedding and dancing to death in hot iron shoes, she falls off the cliff.
The Grimm brothers sanitized their own fairy tales, also. For example, in their first published version of Rapunzel, the witch finds out because Rapunzel's stomach swells and her clothes no longer fit aka the entire time the prince and Rapunzel had been fucking. In their edited version, Gothel finds out because Rapunzel asks "why are you so much harder to pull up than my prince, Frau Gothel?" In the Frog Prince, the just-turned-back-into-a-prince frog and the princess fuck on the bed she flung him on, whereas in the later edition they get married. in the original Snow White, it's Snow White's own mother who tries to kill her, and in the revised edition it's her stepmother. And so on.
Their original collection of fairy tales published in 1812 was meant to be a collection of folk and fairy tales, as-is. Then the book became popular with parents and they complained about the violence, sex and brutality, so the Grimm brothers complied and edited them down for younger audiences.
I'm new on this board, can someone explain to me this Holy Roman Empire meme?
>>1119879
Yep
>>1119879
The "state" known as the Holy Roman Empire wasn't holy, nor Roman, nor an empire. It was a confederation of German principalities with completely autonomous leaders ostensibly under an emperor but the emperors were just as powerful and politically relevant as Queen Elizabeth, and their empire was the was a lot like the EU, only even less centralized and ineffective in the policies of the actual polities that existed within it.
>>1119879
Idiots who haven't even read Voltaire misquote him on his opinion of the late HRE.
So /his/, how accurate is this film?
>>1119856
It's actually pretty authentic if you consider early Islamic sources to be true.
Yes, some poetic license is taken like the scene in which Abdullah bin Ubay and Abu Sufyan meet and plan together to destabilize Medina while in reality Abdullah bin Ubay and Abu Sufyan had different goals. Abdullah wanted to be the Amir of Medina while Abu Sufyan wanted to finish Islam and keep his tribe's honour alive
>>1119856
Nice to see Arabs using straight swords for once.
>>1121833
The curved blades only appeared after the Mamluk takeover of Egypt IIRC, early to mid 14th century. Their blades were straight when they were crossing them with the Crusaders
Who are the three most important men in history, i.e. those who had the biggest influence on shaping our world into what it is today?
Protip: the correct answer is pic related.
Jesus
Confucius
Marx
>Caesar
Yes
>Napoleon
Yes
>Alexander
No
I'd put Jesus (or Paul) and Muhammad there too.
>>1119606
Literal memesters.
Was the reformation, in one way or another, inevitable?
There's always a schism from orthodox churches once in a while. See the Gnostics, Cathars, Unification Church etc.
>social and class inevitability is a thing
Marx please fuck off and never return.
>>1119078
I don't remember any of those spreading like wild fire and gobbling up half continents.
The Reformation was rather different to what that came before it.
What would you say is the first modern state?
France.
San Marino, or it at least behaved like one.
Better question OP, why is Westphalia seen as the first modern sovereign state when it answered to the Holy Roman Empire?
Does anyone have the book list for Catholic theology?
>>1118866
Read the backside of my ballbag, christfag.
who /lit/ here
>>1118866
Required reading for all Catholics.
Was the 1960's counter culture actually important and significant or are the people who went through it too self-important?
>>1118781
Nobody gave a shit about the hippies, not even Dylan or Hendrix, it's mostly a meme. Fuck, even Thompson realized hippies were useless by '72
>>1118787
Hippies were merely an initiation by Free Masons to try and usher into an attitude of counter-culture to destroy the Templar's Global Elite influence. It failed though so now they're doing it through Modern Liberalism
>>1118800
I have no reaction image for this.
What effect does deindustrialization have on the working classes in the countries it takes place in from a Marxist point of view, a Keynesian point of view, and an Austrian point of view?
>>1118181
Marxist:
>the unemployed proletariat will rise up and seize the means of production, since they now have nothing to lose but their chains
Keynesian:
>they will find comfort in the welfare state
Austrian:
>the free market will fix it
>>1118181
>Marxist
gibesmedat
>Austrian
dont wrry senpai ;)
How accurate is the Michiel de Ruyter movie in terms of character? I have no doubt that the events actually happened, but is the spin correct? I'm thinking mostly of William of Orange, although the other stuff is perfectly fine, too.
>>1117900
William of orange was not a faggot, I can tell you that much
>>1118270
A literal faggot or just a regular one?
>>1120028
literal. there were rumours that he was homosexual because he didn't have any offspring