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>>1124882
Lao Tzu

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Probably Stirner and Wittgenstein

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>>1124882

Spinoza & Nietzshe

>>1123289
Please can you take this to one of the 3 existing Catholic threads?

>>1123301
No, because I'm Orthodox.

>>1123289
>Roman Catholics, did you hear that Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI said Vatican II was a mistake?

He didn't say that Vatican II was a mistake, he said that the post-Vatican II often got wishy-washy. I'm not going to deny that things got worse for the Catholic church after the 1960s.

>>1122419
>Is this a constant with new religions?

No, it's an Abrahamic thing. The kikes genocided every non-kike they could find when they first adopted jehova-worship, the christards did the same and the mudscums have followed in their wake. I suspect it has something to do with the total lack of morality in these religions, where blind obedience to an arbitrary set of rules takes the place of genuine moral reasoning, allowing people to commit even the most horrific crimes with a clean conscience.

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You have a point.

Not trying to defend that behaviour, but doesnt those laws and texts explicitely give them a moral or ethical code?

What happens with other religions that also have a written set of rules like Taoism and their Tao te Ching. Taoist although lax in some aspect, were (if any taoist survive) extremely moral people.

Also confucians had a rigid strict set of codes and moral customs.

Then, where is morality coded on classic religion? We know we have written examples on texts but who gave them the absolute authority?

>>1122419
Are you saying Christians are Jews?

Muhammad just wanted to be deified and rule the world

>>1119844
Have you ever read the quran

When you read the Quran, it is immediately obvious Muhammad was trying to fix all the "problems" he saw in Christianity and Judaism. Islam is not so much its own religion as a toolbox to be applied to existing religions.

But anon getting a philosophy major really can mess you up
All them student loans and no way to pay them off

My old history professor once said that the only thing more useless than a history major is a philosophy major, can't really say he's wrong.

>>1118128
All philosophy did was make me doubt whether I am actually typing on this keyboard tbhfamilia

Animals.

>>1117171
>American Gypsies

holy fuck

Almost as bad as the History channel

they picked up where the romans left off

The Islamic Golden age shows why it is good if your prohets make sure to put the interest of the state and the interest of the Church in different folders.

>>1111876
The only people who ever say it's a myth or who exaggerate what it was and did, or who say what it did do is exaggerated, are non-historian plebs.

>>1089755
Labour is cheaper in china

Technological progress resulting in less people needed. This allowed the workforce to specialize in other departments.

>>1089762
So? Why didn't Western politicians defend the interests of their constituents working in the steel industry by preventing the destruction of their employment?

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>>1128211
Posting stuff that was on a previous thread.

Timur started as a son of a simple noble. He was highly intelligent, spoke at least three languages. Despite getting crippled in his youth (hence “Timur the Lame”), he became a military leader at the head of a small army. Through military and political acumen he distinguished himself and he ended up getting crowned in Balkh. And thus it begins.
He started his conquests by subjugating the area corresponding to modern-day Afghanistan, not the easiest place on earth to begin if you’re an aspiring conqueror. He followed this up by going into modern-day Iran, slaughtering every city that put up resistance and sparing the cities that surrendered, in the same vein as his hero Genghis. People who were of value were shipped off to his beloved Samarkand. He paused his Persian campaign to retreat to the gorgeous Georgian mountains, where he proclaimed Jihad against the infidel Christians and decimated them. He went back to Persia, killed some more and finished the job.

Afterwards Timur got into trouble with a guy called Tokhtamysh, a competent Mongol khan who burned down Moscow once. As you’d expect, Timur thoroughly beat him and burned down cities all over Russia. Have you ever wondered how the infamous Golden Horde who ruled massive parts of Russia met its demise? Timur.

He then decided to follow in Alexander's footsteps and move eastward towards the Indus river. Again, he thoroughly beat everyone he met, crossed the Indus river and marched on Delhi, thus outdoing Alexander the Great himself. There he faced war elephants for the first time, and like Scipio Africanus he conceived of a successful strategy to defeat them. He succeeded and sacked Delhi, something Genghis and his sons (and grandsons) failed to do. He celebrated this grand achievement by going back to the Caucasus and slaughtering some more infidel Armenians and Georgians.

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>>1128229
Timur followed this up by going to the Levant and sacking cities such as Damascus and Aleppo for vague religiously motivated reasons, thus outdoing even ISIS. Speaking of things ISIS failed to do, Timur then decided to capture Baghdad, where he ordered every single soldier of his to bring him 24 severed heads. Of course there weren’t enough heads to go around, so soldiers resorted to beheading everything in sight, including their own wives apparently.
Meanwhile in Anatolia, a dynasty you might have heard of were on a meteoric rise. The Ottoman emperor Bayezid I managed to get on Timur’s bad side because he apparently liked to talk trash through letters. Talk shit, get hit, and damn did Bayezid I get hit (picture related). Timur destroyed the Ottoman forces at Ankara and was the only one to capture an Ottoman Sultan in battle. Remnants of the Ottoman army were saved by the Genoese and Venetians, because they were scared shitless by Timur and would rather have the Ottomans as a buffer state between them and Timur. This pissed Timur off, but he consoled himself by BTFO’ing the Crusaders at Izmir, thus officially becoming a ghazi.
The Ming emperor, clearly not having heard what happened to Bayezid, also talked shit to Timur, which incited his wrath. Timur started his military campaign and set off in winter, which is the last thing he ever did. He died in modern-day Kazakhstan before reaching Ming territory.

5% of the world’s population killed. Over 4.4 million square kilometers of territory captured in give or take 40 years.

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>>1128211
I have not always been as now:
The fever’d diadem on my brow
I claim’d and won usurpingly —
Hath not the same fierce heirdom given
Rome to the Cæsar — this to me?
The heritage of a kingly mind,
And a proud spirit which hath striven
Triumphantly with human kind.

On mountain soil I first drew life:
The mists of the Taglay have shed
Nightly their dews upon my head,
And, I believe, the winged strife
And tumult of the headlong air
Have nestled in my very hair.

So late from Heaven — that dew — it fell
(’Mid dreams of an unholy night)
Upon me with the touch of Hell,
While the red flashing of the light
From clouds that hung, like banners, o’er,
Appeared to my half-closing eye
The pageantry of monarchy,
And the deep trumpet-thunder’s roar
Came hurriedly upon me, telling
Of human battle, where my voice,
My own voice, silly child! — was swelling
(O! how my spirit would rejoice,
And leap within me at the cry)
The battle-cry of Victory!

The rain came down upon my head
Unshelter’d — and the heavy wind
Rendered me mad and deaf and blind.
It was but man, I thought, who shed
Laurels upon me: and the rush —
The torrent of the chilly air
Gurgled within my ear the crush
Of empires — with the captive’s prayer —
The hum of suitors — and the tone
Of flattery ‘round a sovereign’s throne.

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>>1127763
Monarcucks get rekt.

>>1127768
The French Republic had to get bailed out by the most autocratic emperor in history up to that point, you have nothing to gloat over.

>>1127774
>France today
Republic
>House of Bonaparte today
Irrelevant.

Modern Israel didn't conquer anything. Ottomans conquered it, then Britain took it, then Britain gave it to them.

>>1127778
>>1127778
>>1127778

>>1127778
in their war of independence they conquered additional territory outside of what the UN had given them and the same is true for the 6 Day War

it was revolution

>>1127653
t. sonig-sdalin

>>1127660
But he was already in charge

Bring a writing utensil

Use a No. 2 pencil

just b urself

no.
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nukes? don´t think so
US used MOABs in the gulf and Russia thermobaric bombs in Checnya, both are pretty impressive

>>1126958
>>1126966
>>1126974
>what are Fat Man and Little Boy

Are you guys serious? At a mere 21 kt and 15 kt respectively, the bombs used on the Japs were tactical sized. They were used as strategic weapons though.

>>1126901

>Starting off a common law thread without referring to cases, but a statutory style definition.

You fail common law forever.

And no, it's not battery. For starters, "Socially acceptable" unwanted contacts are not battery. Brushing someone as you push your way through a crowded train isn't battery.

Secondly, parents have the right to make choices on behalf of their minor children, especially children who cannot even articulate themselves, and possibly cannot even form coherent thoughts.

Think of it this way. Getting an unwanted medical procedure is also battery. A surgeon can't arbitrarily decide you need an operation. However, if you have an ill child, it's the parent who consents to the surgery, not the child.

>All these considered, could baptising infants be, at least theoretically, illegal?

Anything can be theoretically illegal; you just need to get a legislature to make it illegal. It is not illegal under the common law of any country I'm aware of.


OP, be honest. Was this a legitimate inquiry, or just an attempt to masturbate about a religious rite being made illegal so you can tip your fedora?

>>1126901
This anon >>1126985 nails it. Look up the Skycity case if you want a good discussion on social acceptability as a defence.

>>1126901
>All these considered, could baptising infants be, at least theoretically, illegal?

No because the baptist was acting in loco parentis, and it is not illegal for a parent to dip his child in some water.