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Which one would you choose?
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>>1421001
Since we don't have God's word, I pick reason.
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The human reason model, since the other model is demonstrably wrong
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>>1421003
Heretic
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Is existence a predicate?
If not, is the Kantian noumenal world - which we can no nothing of beyond its existence - simply superfluous metaphysics? Has Kant made a really substantial advance on the Cartesian position?
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>>1420969
go to askphilosophy in reddit, they might help you.
this is the worst place in the internet for asking about kant
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>>1420969
How do we know of the noumenal world exists?
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The confusion comes because Kant says existence is not a "*real* predicate." Obviously in the statement "God exists," existence is a quality that modifies the subject, i.e., a predicate. I don't know how it is in German but our manner of speaking in English means we treat 'existence' the word like a predicate.
But the real question has become almost meaningless from a post-Modern perspective. Existence not being a "real predicate" means that to exist is not a positive quality of some object but is a pre-condition of that object in some 'pure' ontology, which we have no real reason to believe in.
Why don't you know anything about art?
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>Knowing about words means you know anything about art
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>all modernist shit
kys
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Is the ego a mental plague?
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No, needs of the self just need to be balanced out by needs of others. We also need to start realizing that the idea that people act solely by rational self interest, which is currently pushed heavily by our political and economic elites, is at best incomplete and at worst completely wrong
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>>1420933
Das Ego is but a mental description of your physiological state and biological imperative to survive as transcribed into your phenomenological states.
As such it is necessary for psychological survival, as it is what wills you to eat, to help yourself. Without it you would wither into a little bitch.
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A parasite maybe? One that attaches itself to a human host to feed off its emotions and self-indulgence, but is incapable of living independently of a host.
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How do I detach myself from human nature 2016-07-16 17:55:46 Post No.1420848
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I want to detach myself mentally from the shackles that are human nature. I think if one is able to intellectually make sense of it all, their conscious may overcome their subconscious.
It is untenable that humans are conscious organisms ingrained with the biological imperative of having to spread their genes and continue their tribe (in-group, or faction or whatever) the same way all organisms on this planet function. Of course, complex psychological factors come into play and translate these otherwise basic concepts into complex, and sometimes, misguided manifestations. A 'normal' model for the biological human would be to have as many children as possible in an environment that fosters them until they themselves are capable of simulating the organismic process of genetic and tribal perpetuation themselves, adulthood. Human psychology, as incurred by the various environmental factors that afflict various parts of the world and different sorts of people differently, has resulted in some people wanting one child, while others, having several, and for different, partially incorrect reasons. Some tribes (another problem, as I'll mention later, is the coherency of the idea of the 'tribe), such as the People's Republic of China, has collectively decided the best way to perpetuate their tribal existence is through limiting the amount of offspring any given mating couple could have (the former one child policy, now two child policy). Some tribes have their alpha members recognise problems of their tribal perpetuation's method - India and its' highest level of politicians recognising the problem that is their uncontrollable population.
I believe the reason nihilists and antinatalists often seem so unhealthy and are susceptible to a change of mind is because they have not truly extinguished their tribal warrior spirit or their organismic incentive to spread genes. I want to purge these primordial feelings out of me
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>>1420848
cont.
The problem that arises is firstly, the coherency of the idea of a tribe. The proverbial 'tribe' that psychologists so often use consists of an easily identifiable group of people with the easily discernible mutual interest of their perpetuation. The 'modern' tribe is up to the tribesman's interpretation - some consider 'nations' their tribes, some don't extend tribal status beyond their family, some are in a venn diagram of many tribes of varying precedents in priority. The problem I see with some tribal identifications is that they're patently wrong and the 'tribesmen' themselves know it, which in turn causes cognitive dissonance and inhibition from performing properly in society. Such examples of misdesignations can include excessive dogma towards a certain political ideology (notice how all diehard anarcho-capitalists are never actually financially successful), towards an ethnic group (whites; for example - there is no 'white' tribe because there are many competing political (tribal) factions that are white, and it is also historically so. There is no 'white' tribal leader. Some white 'tribesmen' see others as the nemesis - white Americans and white Russians. The other problem is all of these people all have different associations and different ideas - varying to such extreme extents 'micro-tribes' are found as to how issues should be addressed. The English and Scottish loathed each other only a few hundred years ago; some would not be able to comprehend the fact their tribes 'merged (federalised)').
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>>1420852
cont
Modern allies that are seemingly tied by cultural heritage were heads against each other not so long ago. The idea of a 'Chinese' state only came when too many opposing tribes came in - before, the idea of 'China' was just 'all that was under heaven', and China would fall into many tribes - kingdoms with people that had no scruples about murdering, raping and torturing that of other kingdoms; yet now most provinces want to 'make China great again' - but what if China dissolves into something larger, or balkanises into many tribes in future? Is it biologically coherent for a Chinese man to think that he is 'perpetuating his tribe' if his descendants will be in many tribes that are varying from one another and have no relation to the idea that is 'China'?
Also, I'm not making this post because I hate children or hate nationalism or whatever. Quite frankly the opposite. I both love (and want) children, and I'm nationalist and an ethnonationalist, but I realise the incoherency and redundancy ultimately of all these inclinations and partisanships
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In the human being, there is a "co-incidence" of body and consciousness (literally an arising together, a mutual conditioning).
You do not have a body, your body has you.
The particularities of your consciousness are reflections of your unique psycho-physical makeup, a fact amply supported by neuroscience.
The FACT of your consciousness, your actual first-person experience of these determined states and innate capacity to overcome them through observation and detachment, is the basis of Buddhist praxis, simultaneously the principle and path of transcendence from all relativity and conditioned reality.
Who can possibly refute this?
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>>1420801
Why is it not the case that I have a body and my body has a me?
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Please restate as a historical question
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Cool, OP. While I disagree with you, I thought I'd say that Descartes had a very similar opinion (that body and consciousness were coincidental, but not essentially related, if I understood correctly).
The reason I don't agree is because all it takes is an accident or a brain disease for a person to become a drooling zombie with no memory or awareness of himself. So much for the consciousness being independent of the body.
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Why didn't Realpolitik catch on and are we still dealing with this bullshit called 'ideology'? For fucks sake people, wake up, ideology is a fucking SPOOK.
The whole concept of ideology is fucking retarded.
>Hurr durr, instead of forming my own opinion I am gonna choose one of these preset bundle of opinions, hurr durr
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>>1420768
It did catch on. Realpolitik has been American foreign policy since 1776. Just because Bismarck named it doesn't mean he started it, you flaming faggot.
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>>1420800
I didn't even use the name 'Bismarck' in this entire thread, how can you accuse me for claiming he started it?
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>>1420804
>starts a thread about realpolitik with fucking Bismarck in the OP
Just kys and move on.
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Is the bible supposed to be taken literally, or is it supposed to be taken spiritually ( As is using it as a guide)? Or is that negligent, and the bible is supposed to be taken as a book used for only authoritarian gain.
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Whenever it contradicts reality, you take it spiritually. Anything questionable is allegory. Keep this in mind and you'll do fine.
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Extremist stances that Bible should be taken only literally or only as a metaphor are cancer. There are things that are obviously literal ("David was crowned as a king") and some that are obviously metaphors (parables for example are outright explicit metaphors).
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>>1420763
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Christians traditionally interpreted the bible as simultaneously being both literal and allegorical. For example Augustine wrote about how the dimensions of Noah's ark corresponded to the dimensions of the human body, which is the body of Christ and in turn the body of the Church while at the same time defended the literal reading, with arguments such as the ark being measured with Egyptian cubits rather than Latin, so it was bigger than people thought, and could in fact hold all the animal species.
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Redpill me on the world. Why does it feel like everything is going to shit everywhere at once?
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Because you are afraid.
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>>1420506
pls dont use words like "redpill me"
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Everyone has always felt like that in every age
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I'm looking for an abstract as fuck book with lots of double meanings.
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The Bible
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Finnigan's Wake
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The Book of the New Sun
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Is it possible to explain waifuism using Plato's philosophy?
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>Hey guys is there a videogame where I can play as a cute witch?
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I wouldn't say so. Plato claimed that there existed perfect forms of our inperfect worldly objects and anime girls are just to distance due to retarded body proportions and extremely wide spread mental dissorders.
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>>1420408
what?
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>most atheists are polite and have a good understanding of most religions, using arguments of religious history in historical debates
>religious people are ACCEPT JESUS/ALLAH OR DIE and brag on how their afterlife in heaven is secure
There are exceptions, but:
which one of those do you think a peace loving god like Jesus would let in heaven?
now
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>>1420338
Religious people
Unbelievers aren't admitted in
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Heaven is a reward for irrational obedience, not polite arguments.
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>>1420338
Actually most atheists are stupid and naive, and that comes from an atheist. They do not understand that the belief part is only a small part of religion.
I think group cohesion through rituals and self-sacrifice are much more important.
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I'm reading about the Northern Wars and shit and I'm really surprised to see how Sweden was the Nazi Germany of the 17th century. What event changed them to what they are now?
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Can't we all just get along 2016-07-16 14:25:34 Post No.1420181
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Can't we all just get along
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>humanities
Political compass bread
BONUS POINTS: dont /pol/lute the thread
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Patrician reporting in
Without war, common enemies and a low minimum wage, nothing stops a nation from merging into an invertebrate nation of melting pot socialists who hate their own country because they have run out of things to protest
Glory to the senate
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>>1420193
>nationalism works in the 21st century
Wew racist
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where my freedom lovers at
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Hello /psy/. Is there a reasonable explanation as to why, for example, groups made mostly of boys (like in technical schools) tend to obsess over disgusting stuff?
It sounds like one of those things where you just know that there's a French guy with a theory about it, so that's why I'm asking on /his/.
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Bravado/masculinity displays.
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>>1420208
I'm not sure that it's that simple. Note that this is not about being cocky and showing off, this is purely about disgusting things. Toilet humour and the such.
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