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Okay, losers. How much are the information we have on Spartans just myths and misconceptions? Outside of academia, I mean (pop culture, trivia, etc).

I feel like most of them are.
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>>3289215

1. "MYTH" IS NOT SYNONYMOUS WITH "FALSITY".

2. MOST FALSITY REGARDING SPARTA COMES FROM WITHIN (PSEUDO)ACADEMIA.

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god is not a delusion but a form of information control that builds on itself through its paradoxical narrative in relation to how humans receive and control information. This intrinsic form of information control is "good vs evil" and its a overarching narrative that can apply to all things and ensures all information is sorted in relation to the god narrative. obviously no one wants to believe that there's no god because that would mean there's no good or evil. If there's no good and evil there is nothing. Since a universe of nothing is what the god narrative simply exists to contradict.

Nihilism is the only Ockham's razor to god... Yet it is a no more than a form interpreting information itself. More than that, what meaninglessness and nothing means relative to how humans receive information is entirely socially constructed. As it is within the definition of what meaningless connotes that reality is constructed
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>>3289188
>religious word salad.

move along

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Who was in the wrong here?
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Both, maybe
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>>3288994

Yes.
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>>3288994
Cromwell did nothing wrong, he only served his king. Poor lad didn't deserve what he got.

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From the book Mehmed the Conquerer and His Times:
>Soon after the terrible news from the Levant, Pope Pius II conceived the strange idea of trying to convert the sultan.
>>An insignificant trifle can make you the greatest, the most powerful, the most famous of living mortals. You ask what it is? It is not hard to find; there is no need to go far in search of it. It can be found everywhere: a little water with which to be baptized, to be converted to Christianity, and to accept the faith of the Gospel.
Once you have done this there will be no prince on the whole earth to outdo you in fame or equal you in power. We shall appoint you the emperor of the Greeks and the Orient... All Christians will honor you and make you the arbiter of their quarrels... Many will submit to you voluntarily, appear before your judgement seat, and pay taxes to you. It will be given to you to quell tyrants, to support the good and combat the wicked. And the Roman Church will not oppose you... The first spiritual chair [the Pope] will embrace you in the same love as other kings, and all the more so accordingly as your position is higher. Under these conditions you can easily, without war or bloodshed, acquire many kingdoms...
We [the Papacy] shall never lend aid to your enemies, but on the contrary call on your arm against those who sometimes usurp the rights of the Roman Church and raise their horns against their own mother.

What would've happaned on the off-chance that the sultan had converted to catholicism.
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>>3288920
His nobility would've railed the sipahis to overthrow him.
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T*rks don't have the consept of morality or spirituality. They would still be shit.
Even if Memet did convert how are he going to explain this to the janaissaries?
To not forget he would clash with both his Muslim and Orthodox subjects. Espesally the first where his power was based on.

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>good christian
>loved thy neighbor
>shared generously
>attended church every sunday
>preached good morals
>jesus fed a thousand people with only one loaf of bread
>feeds several million ukrainians with zero loaves of bread
>portrayed as antichrist
>mfw
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>>3288842
high-quality shitpost desu

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Daily reminder that Meijrumpf will lose, Meijrumpflets could never defeat Shogunate #imwiththeshogun
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>>3288779
>not wanting to make Japan great again
>not wanting to put Japan on the world stage
>not wanting to crush your inferior backwards neighbours and take over them
>not wanting to prove your worth to the western world
Are Shoguntards actually this delusional
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>>3288789
You're just saying that because the Shogun isn't descended from Amaterasu. Well guess what barbarian, #imwithhim

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Why didn't he claim Austria?
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his hair makes me angry
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>>3288733
They had to formally renounce the claim in order to be able to participate in Austrian politics.
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>>3288890
Why didn't he cross his fingers while he did it?

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Was it really THAT bad?
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>>3288647
Absolutely. Though it's arguable that Verdun has more sinister qualities, such as it literally being engineered as a meat grinder, on top of gas weapons and the general misery of trench warfare.

Then there's other battles that could be hardly called battles at all in face of their shocking conclusions, like the Siege of Carthage. And of course there's the possibility of one more terrible and black hearted than all the rest, and yet has been lost to recorded history. Possibly inflicted by the Huns, the Khans, the SS in some rural part of Russia, or somewhere else.
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This kills the nazi
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>>3288735
The germans captured that. Pavlovs house would be more appropriate

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Was there ever a South East Asian civilization that was able to match the glory of Japan?
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>>3288626
>South East Asia
Not really, the Indochina area had some interesting trade empires and fought of Mongol invasions. Thailand has also been relatively successful. Other Asian countries have been much greater then Japan like China, Japan got an edge over Asia through the Meiji restoration and being able to become a world power but for most of its history it was lesser then China.
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>>3288626
The Malacca Sultanate did pretty well for themselves thanks to controlling all trade through the Straits of Malacca, and became a recognized tributary of China with one of the Sultans marrying a Chinese princess and Chinese traders settling in the region, before the Portuguese conquered them (seriously pissing off Ming China in the process and ensuring that China would be hostile to Portuguese for a long time to come)
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>>3288642
How Portugal conquered Malacca so easily is still a mystery
i would assume treachery would be very likely but i cant be sure

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How did the Romans spy on their enemies /his/? I know the frumentarii existed although info on them is hard to find as is the case with them being secret and all.
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>>3288455
Medicus Pavelus, Ego Frumentarii.

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These momentums are younger then 25 years, but I'd appreciate an assessment from people that actually know history.

So. X-th wave feminism loses its sources of financing, radicalises itself in order to stir enough shit to get enough drones to follow&finance the movement. Aggressive tactics shift relevant majority to right, extreme right wingers use this moment to get real power. Trump is elected. Radicalisation of the clash of these two movements evolves into ... what?

What is the future of the Western world with left with Stalinist methods getting the power while right and center are ever more radicalized in response?
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>>3288428
>These momentums are younger then 25 years
But they're not, stop peddling bullshit

>trump is an extreme right winger
kys

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>>3288339
to who? the fucking greek roaches?
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>>3288339
Not worth it at that point.
Tbh I'm a Byzaboo up until 1204, from that point on the Ottomans may as well exist. They at least left the city in a better state than they found it, unlike the Latins.
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>>3288346
>supporting angeloi pretender filth
they're the entire reason a 1204 even happened

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>be william h. thompson
>become mayor of chicago
>have an alliance with al capone
>be elected not only once, but twice because the people love you somehow
>>hate england and the british empire; want to ban all texts associated with it
>>actually want to have chicago flourish economically and politically without the interference of totalitarian and British government rule

so... was he.. /ourguy/? and why were the british still being dicks to america at this time? could it be said that thompson was a hero for the people of chicago in his own right?
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>>3288336
Special relationship didnt exist until the propaganda of the second world war.

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What level of modern academic revisionism are you at, my dude?
Nords and Negroes are all the same racial minded morons.
http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/
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>>3288303
literally wut
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>>3288303
People speak of revisionism as a horrid thing but narratives are based on fact and facts change given their time period and contact.

I for one believe that a number of supposed "truths" are in fact false and have other narratives.

History is thus ultimately a dialogue between the people of today translating and speaking to the obfuscated words of the past.
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>>3288308
Most of those pictures look like they're from the Netherlands during the 17th century. The era of the Dutch slave trade. Makes sense black people'd show up in art from then.

Is this a late meme- I mean, development?

When did the idea of afterlife (or reincarnation) get chained to retribution? It seems to me as product of society where norms are needed, moreso if we consider that morality changes by place and time in some aspects.

Is it mostly a priestly development to keep the masses in place, or is it a consolation against the tragedy of life (ie my life sucks so after I die I'll go to a paradise and my enemies will suffer)?
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