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If Franz wasn't assassinated, how long would it have stalled WWI?
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>>2493354
Forever
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>>2493354
A decade or at minimum, 5 years.
The Archduke had the intention of giving the Slavs their own semi-autonomous region.
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Austria-Hungary's leadership believed Serbia to be an existential threat to the empire. You might disagree but they believed it.

They didn't necessarily want to destroy Serbia but they needed the Serbian nationalist terrorist groups to stop.

Serbia's government didn't really have control of the population of nationalists and I really doubt 10 years would have passed without Serbia provoking AH to put a stop to it.

So the question is really how long could the serbs control their urge to chimp out and would Russia ever allow Serbia to be cut down to size without intervening?

That's ignoring France and Germany butting heads on the other side of the continent. Pretend all you want Germany started the war but France wanted Alsace Lorraine and its leadership was composed almost entirely of Franco-Prussian veterans waiting for the right time.

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>what history topic are you studying on the night you should be out drinking with friends

>list some interesting things about said history topic you recently learned
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The history of tavern brawls and fun times people had going out drinking on Saturday night in the past.
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>>2493342
>The history of tavern brawls

Whats the most violent tavern brawl in history?

Alternate question: Whats the most violent a group of people got due to overindulgence in drinking and partying? 25 year rule, so don't list any of the recent chimp outs.
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I learn Sanskrit. Like every day for the past five years.

Interesting things about Sanskrit:
> still has native speakers, only a few thousand though
> *not* the closest to the 'original' Indo-European language (if there ever was one); that would be Avestani
> gave birth to Pali, Hindi, and many other languages
> The over-god in early IE spiritualism was 'sky father', or 'dyuh piter' in Sanskrit, which gave rise Jupiter in Latin
> It's hard as fuck

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Hello /his/

Don't browse here often, but I'm going to a trivia competition soon. Gimme the rundown on the most important popes and what they did.

Pic related I'm pretty sure.
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>>2493277
Helped end gommunism.
Took ecumenism seriously.
Started the tradition of Catholic feminism (Complementism)
um, he was smug maybe?
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Pornocracy or the Rule of the Prostitutes/Rules of the Harlots or the more polite Saeculum obscurum (latin for the Dark Age) began in 904 AD with the installation of Pope Sergius III. The Pope was completely under the control of Theodora, the beautiful wife of Roman consul Theophylactus, who used sex to wield power.

Theodora's 15-year-old daughter Morazia became the concubine of Pope Sergius III. Their son later became Pope John XI - the only illegitimate son of a Pope that later became Pope himself.

The era of Pornocracy ended with Pope John XII (the grandson of Marozia) in 963. He was so immoral that the Basilica of Rome was converted into a brothel under his rule.
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>>2493277
Alexander VI

Father of Cesare Borgia

legitimized his kids once pope

meme pope

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Why did the Soviets not accept the Marshall aid offered by the US?
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Because they would rather stay communist
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They didn't want their new vassals to interact with the US.
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>>2493256
Because that would put them in political/economic debt to the US, which by the time of Roosevelts death had turned against the interests of the Soviets.

Currently doing an essay on how people misrepresent the Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain in modern/early-modern politics/society.

The Teutonism of the Victorian era is self-evident enough, any thing else to help out friends?
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Isn't the consensus still that no one has a fucking clue what happened?

There is some evidence of peaceful settlement alongside the Celts; and there is some evidence of warfare. Some evidence of invitations to settle (Vortigern, etc.); some evidence of forced invasions.

Literally guesswork.
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>>2493145
Its kind of a cop-out, but it was probably a combination of all of them. Shits complicated yo.
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>>2493145
>>2493226

Well yeah, that's kind of my point. That's why I've chosen to focus on the ramifications of an event that may not have even happened how we imagine it did.

Things like the IRA calling the British forces "Sassenach" or the Sons of Glyndwr, etc etc

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NEqlfWSOrQ

Do you agree with MEP Janusz Korwin-Mikke's stance on salary?
Do you want him debate Zizek?

Annotation to the mods: Sociology = Humanities
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>>2492961
>Debate a marxist jew
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>>2492967
You realize his real surname is Goldberg and he was most likely issued a faked ID by Communist Party after 1968?

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How did they fuck up so badly? All that wasted potential. Why weren't they taught about inflation?
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two words

von habsburg
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>>2492939
no one taught them about genetics either
presumably because such science wasn't very expanded on then

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Were the monarchs who said they were powerful or divine ever show or claim some display of superhuman ability, besides merely having the right to rule?
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their superhuman ability was that anyone who publicly doubted their divinity was arrested and executed
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>>2492920
we'll
that is a display of power
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>>2492913
It was common for monarchs to make public appearances blessing and distributing small favors and trinkets that were said to bring good luck.

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Why did Byzantines stop making sculptures of their emperors and stuff at some point? Their mosaics/frescoes also seem to have gotten progressively worse post-Justinian as well. Did Christcuckery kill off their artistic talent?
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>>2492860
They moved to iconic art to separate themselves from Catholicism
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>Why did Byzantines stop making sculptures of their emperors and stuff at some point?
I'm curious why you think this is the case. Have you ever read any books about Byzantine art history? They definitely never stopped making sculptures. No idea where you're getting that from.
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>>2492912
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_emperors#Eastern_emperors

Only coins and pictorial representations past this point.

So how come the Romans were never able to conquer Parthia? It seems like a combination of invasions tending to happen at inopportune times (i.e. someone like Crassus, Antony or Caracalla going to war for glory during politically turbulent times), getting easily deceived by duplicitous locals or just being happy with a quick sack of Ctesiphon. Would Caesar's attempted invasion have gone any different if he had avoided his assassination or would it have ended in failure as well?

And for a bit of alt-history, what happens if Rome actually does manage to conquer Parthia? I believe Caesar then wanted to deal with the steppe people before ultimately conquering Germania but is that where later rulers would have ended it or whould they have tried expanding further? What if Trajan hadn't died or Hadrian hadn't pussied out on the conquests in Persia, Armenia and Dacia?
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>>2492772

>So how come the Romans were never able to conquer Parthia?

Because it's one thing to launch an expedition and sack an important city or two. But to conquer and eliminate, you need not only to project force but to be able to reliably sustain force in whatever area you want to conquer. Parthia was really far away, especially since despite the fame the roads get, the Roman Republic and Empire was really centered around the Mediterranean and the sea access they could get from it, as well as what navigable rivers they could travel along for places like what's now France's and Spain's interiors.

Getting to Iran is much harder, and you'll have to haul all your gear and supplies by land. Maybe they could have pushed over a weak confederation on the level of the 1st century Germanic tribes under those conditions, but not a group as large and organized as the Parthians, let alone the Sassanids.


>Would Caesar's attempted invasion have gone any different if he had avoided his assassination or would it have ended in failure as well?

I'm guessing, but I imagine it would have gone similar to their other successful attacks. Caesar moves in with his troops, fights a bunch of skirmishes and then one or two pitched battles, sacks somewhere nice and full of loot, and then realizes that it's either go back with what you've got or stay here for the next 50 years, and choose the former.

>And for a bit of alt-history, what happens if Rome actually does manage to conquer Parthia?

I imagine they spend more money than it's worth continually putting down revolts until they just eventually go "fuck it" and leave the area.
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Because of the Zagros and Alborz mountain ranges coupled with a lack of year round navigable waterways to allow Roman logistics the ability to march and maintain several legions into Persian Iraq and beyond. It'd be like expecting the Parthians to invade Italy with any chance of success.
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>>2492772
Romans can't cavalry to save their fucking lives.

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Can someone prove the ridiculous numbers? Apparently over a million jews died in Auschwitz alone.

And yet there are no mass graves that collectively hold millions of corpses to prove it and it is impossible to cremate that many corpses.

Not only that the gas chambers myth seems shaky and majority of people died due to starvation in the last year of the war.
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>>2492749
>Can someone prove the ridiculous numbers?

You might want to look up the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry's work on population statistics.

>and it is impossible to cremate that many corpses.

What makes you think that?

>Not only that the gas chambers myth seems shaky and majority of people died due to starvation in the last year of the war.

Again, what makes you think that?
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>>2492756
>What makes you think that?

It took hours to cremate one corpse back then.

The population statistics show that there were 7.5 million jews in Europe in 1933. Around 200.000 fled Europe for Palestine and many migrated there and to US after war.

The numbers dont add up.
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>>2492756
Gas chambers are not practical which is why no one else thought about using them.

It's much faster cheaper and less dangerous to just shoot to genocide.

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>1875 - 1950 is 75 years
>people born in 1892 were 90% dead by the 1970s
>yfw you realize you probably won't live to see the 2070s and all advancements in healthcare are either memes or for the super rich
>yfw you realize how short your life really is
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> yfw granny was born in 1925
> yfw you drive her around while she tells you "this used to be lonely sandhills and there was a farm over there" when all you see are busy streets
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>>2492659
Does she tell you that the country used to be white?
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>>2492659
NO!

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If it's natural to kill, how come men have to go into training to learn how?

pic unrelated
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>>2492611
To kill more Effectively
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>>2492611
Because modern combat goes directly against more natural types of human conflict and there's quite a bit more to it than just to kill.
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>>2492611
Killing is natural but war (organised civilised warfare) isn't.

Also.

Fug Hathor was thicc.

Tell me more about Hathor Was she a raunchy gal?

If we invented time machines are traveled back in time to medieval Europe, would we cause epidemics?
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>>2492567
>Smallpox killed more than 200 million people the last centuary
>Spanish flue killed more people in two years than two world wars did
>Millions have died from a disease you can usually survive through simple salt and water, cholera
Shit is insane
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>>2492567
Not necessarily. We aren't all walking smallpox factories because we have a vaccine. Odds are we would cause severe flu like symptoms because colds are so prevelent. And our bacteria would be brutal.

But remember while we still likely carry bits of resistance to shit from eons ago we would also likely get fucked by their
dieases.
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It's probably be more likely that you'd catch some weird, pre-sanitation disease and die with your antibacterial compromised immune system.

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>During WW1, Wittgenstein immediately volunteered for the Austro-Hungarian Army, despite being eligible for a medical exemption
>Wittgenstein directed the fire of his own artillery from an observation post in no-man's land against Allied troops - one of the most dangerous jobs there was, since he was targeted by enemy snipers
>In action against British troops, he was decorated with the Military Merit with Swords on the Ribbon, and was commended by the army for "His exceptionally courageous behaviour, calmness, sang-froid, and heroism"

Are there any other philosophers who weren't cowards and fought for their country?
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Benni 16
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Remember that time Wittgenstein and his boyfriend wanted to emigrate to the Soviet Union and work in a factory together, but were told they wouldn't be allowed in unless they became professors at a state university?
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>>2492511
Socrates, believe it or not.

"Socrates’ first proper engagement was at Potidaea in 432 BC – a city-state threatening to break away from Athens. Already aged 37, Socrates played a role in the initial battle, and also in the subsequent siege of the city. The campaign kept him away from Athens for almost three years, and it was on the way home, as part of a victorious army, that Socrates distinguished himself.

The Athenian army was ambushed near Spartolos and suffered serious losses. Socrates, though, saved the life and armour of Alcibiades, a man who went on to become one of Athens’ leading strategists and politicians.

Five years after his return from Potidaea, with the first phase of the Peloponnesian Wars at its height, Socrates fought at the Battle of Delium. The battle, in 424 BC, provides the first recorded incident of fratricide – or what might now be called ‘friendly fire’ casualties – when confused hoplites began fighting each other, unable to distinguish fellow Athenians from their enemies, the Boeotians.

After some early successes, the Athenians were routed. Socrates, though, seems to have maintained some order in his retreat. Plato wrote ‘when you behave in war as he did, then (the enemy) do not even touch you; instead they pursue those who turn in headlong flight’.

The Athenian general Laches was even more generous: ‘If all the Athenians had fought as bravely as Socrates, the Boeotians would have erected no (victory) statues.’

Socrates’ last military service was at Amphipolis. Approaching 48 by then, his role in the battle is unclear. Spartan victory at Amphipolis soon led to an armistice with Athens, and the first phase of the war was over." (https://www.military-history.org/articles/thinkers-at-war-socrates.htm)

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