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I've been thinking this for a really long time, but this week has really made me come to terms with the fact that I hate Marvel. I've tried to give them a chance in the past but nothing they've ever made has really interested me. DC has offered me stuff like The Spectre, Suicide Squad, and Hitman that I've grown up with, but Marvel's heroes have always been kiddish and underdeveloped in comparison.

What also gets me is how anal Marvel fans are. I've noticed that almost all Marvel fans are social outcasts while the majority of people happily grow up with DC. It feels like a really contrarian way to make decisions. With that comes a sense of unwarranted self importance. Marvel fans like to pretend their books are "smart," and have a lot of guys like Hickman that write a lot of pseud gobbledygook. Marvel stories are all about being told how smart you are and being meta. DC isn't high art but they're good at telling stories about people that act like people.

But what really gets me is that they're always rebooting and pushing events that do nothing but dredge up shit from their past for nostalgia. It's a backwards way of writing that shows that they're creatively bankrupt, and I feel like they hurt ALL comics, not just their own.

What do you think? Why do you hate or like Marvel?
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Wait was that shit in the open pic an actual comic Marvel put out.
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>>83180076

Is that from an actual comic?
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I'm an angry social outcast who likes marvel so I guess you're right

That said I'm not really reading current marvel, mostly just 70s stuff right now

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>Wally West's return in Rebirth — and his warnings about a "darkness from somewhere" that's infecting the DCU — is just the beginning of the story. The character will share his message of 10 missing years in the DCU as he joins the Titans, a new series by Dan Abnett and Brett Booth that launches in July.

>And Newsarama has learned that DC has given Abnett a DC exclusive contract, as he's not only writing the new Titans title, but also Aquaman and Earth 2: Society.

>Because of Wally's return, Titans will be "central" to the events unfolding after the revelation that Watchmen characters have manipulated the DCU, according to Abnett.

>The monthly Titans title will spin out of the events of Rebirth while also picking up on what happened in Abnett's just-finished Titans Hunt. Wally will join with other team members from Titans Hunt, including Bumblebee, Nightwing, Donna Troy, Gnarrk, Hawk, Dove, Arsenal, Tempest, Herald, and other familiar Titans characters.

>Newsarama talked with Abnett about Wally's role on the team, about his early tease of the character's return, and why the Titans are so important for DC's new acceptance of legacy characters.

>Newsarama: Dan, you're DC exclusive now?

>Dan Abnett: Yes, I'm delighted. I didn't campaign for it or anything. I was offered it. I'd been doing stuff for DC for a while, sort of gradually, incrementally adding stuff to what I was doing — they asked me to take over Aquaman, asked me to take over Earth 2, and asked me to do Titans Hunt.

>And when the Rebirth thing happened, DC Co-Publisher Dan DiDio said, would you mind coming out to Los Angeles, to Wonder Con and everything? And I went, "Oh lovely!" You know, being part of the announcement, which I happily did. I was very happy to be part of it all.
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>>83180052

>And once I was there, he said, "We really would like to put you on an exclusive, if you're interested." It felt like they were taking seriously my contribution, It wasn't like, 'Well, we're trying him out. If he doesn't work out, we'll get rid of him.'

>It's lovely to be connected to a company like that, and to have that relationship cemented. And I'm really enjoying what I'm doing for them. So it just seemed the right thing to do.

>Nrama: Readers have learned from DC Universe: Rebirth #1 that Wally West is back in continuity. Readers of Titans Hunt probably already figured that out, a week before Rebirth, because you hinted it pretty strongly.

>Abnett: Yes, there was one character missing. There was one character who should have been there. Anybody who goes back and looks at Titans Hunt will see that I was almost unsubtle. There was a person not there that nobody was talking about.

>Nrama: And now he's there. So he's going to be central to Titans and Titans Rebirth?

>Abnett: Titans Rebirth is all about the return of Wally. There are obviously going to be huge ramifications, because Wally is so important to Titans history. So it's a wonderful reunion, and it's a very big deal.

>He kind of rounds out the team. And also, he's sort of a messenger, a bringer of this warning. He has seen, to a certain extent, what it is that they're not aware of, but they're aware that something's wrong.

>The whole point of the story is to try to unlock the mystery of what's going on.

>That places it right in the middle of Rebirth in terms of its importance.

>Nrama: Is it right to assume his "message" is about the 10 missing years we learned about in DC Universe: Rebirth, and that the Titans will be among those investigating what happened to the timeline?

>Abnett: His message is absolutely that.

>Nrama: You must have worked with Geoff a lot on this?
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>>83180058

>Abnett: Yes, I've spoken to him a lot on it. We've had meetings, face-to-face. He's been great, bringing me into it, in terms of how to connect Titans into what he's doing. So that's been a really fulfilling and terrific experience.

>When I got to read what he's done, all I can say is a single issue of a comic has not given me goosebumps like that in years.

>Nrama: OK, so Titans Rebirth brings Wally back, and he serves as a messenger to the Titans about the problems with time that he highlighted in DC Universe: Rebirth #1. Do you have to know anything about the Teen Titans history to understand it?

>Abnett: No, not at all. From the point of view of old readers, there are some wonderful things happening here that they will be delighted to see. But from the point of view of new readers, we take you by the hand and walk you into this and uncover and explain everything as we go.

>That's what the nature of the story is. The whole point of the story is to figure out what's going on.

>Nrama: With the launch of the new Titans book, you've got a new #1, but this is also a continuation of the story you're been telling in Titans Hunt?

>Abnett: It's still a new #1 that you can pick up without having read the previous issues. But in many ways, Titans Hunt was a prototype, experimental Rebirth book. I didn't realize that when I was asked to do it, but they were sort of trying out what they were going to be doing in a bigger way, which is to reintroduce or account for older continuity.

>So although the story doesn't continue, some of the themes do.

>For brand new readers, Titans Rebirth and Titans #1 will be a perfectly good place to start. But if you've read my Titans Hunt, you'll have a bit more of the lead-in story.

>If we've done our jobs right, it's both a great point to join into these characters, but also a great continuation if you're already there.
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>Nrama: And these are all still the "New 52" characters, but they're realizing there's more to their history. Right?

>Abnett: Right, these are the "New 52" characters moving into a place where they suddenly realize there is more to their history than they knew. And their characters are morphing as they begin to realize this. For example, Donna Troy has gone from a very fierce, two-dimensional character to a much more rounded, questioning, wondering character. And that's true of Garth, that's true of Roy Harper, and of Nightwing even.

>I've tried to use some of these inconsistencies, some of the aspects of their lives — Roy's problems with substance abuse, for instance, and the fact that Nightwing has been Nightwing, Robin, Batman, Grayson — and rather than saying, well, that's what the continuity is, I'm saying there's a reason that he's never managed to fix a permanent identity for himself as a hero. And there's a reason that Roy went off the rails. And there's a reason that Garth is angry. And there's a reason that Donna is a ferocious, apparently emotionless creature. Because something has damaged them. And they're all kind of responding to that.

>That was what Titans Hunt was about. And now we get to learn why.

>Nrama: So now that Wally West is back, there are going to be some answers about what's going on? Is it tied into this idea of missing years that we learned about in Rebirth?

>Abnett: Yes, that's part of the story. What happened in Titans Hunt was, we accounted for how they could be a team where they apparently didn't have that continuity in the past. But Titans, as a book, begins with the team assembled, knowing that they were once a team, knowing that they were once friends, but essentially having no memory of it, and realizing that that lack of memory is a big problem. And it's of course tied into Rebirth.

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http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/

tl;dr version: its not okay to make captain america an anti-semite

pic unrelated
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>>83179983
Captain America was created by two Jews, so I think it would be in poor taste to make him an antisemite. It would be like a black guy creating a hero character that's a secret klansman.
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>>83181298
think about where you are. 4chan would tell that man that he was a credit to his people.
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>>83179983
Clickbaiting garbage.

I can't believe everyone is buying into this "cap is evil!111" bullshit.

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Looks like I'm going to have to spend money here, as all the free ones have ads even while reading the comics. Please advise.
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anyone?
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>>83179915
I really have a thing for superheroines in bondage
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bondage thread?

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since geoff johns says manhattan's not the villain what are the odds he's working for someone else
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Look in your hand. See how empty it is?
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>>83179859
Johns said he is the antagonist, not the villain. More likely he is doing the Alex Luthor equivalent of slamming together different worlds to create new ones like we saw in Infinite Crisis.
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>>83179892
that was my thought too

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Why are these the five cartoons with the most fanfiction?
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Higher quality cartoons attract larger fanbases, which in turn produces greater numbers of fanfics of quality proportional to the original show.

Oh wait, no, that's not right.
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>>83179787
>pedo
>pedo
>beastiality
>beastiality
>pedo

there you go
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why the fuck is Danny Phantom on there
the rest I get but was Danny Phantom really that popular?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL_8gji9jrQ

Have you heard about this? Animator Kyle a. carrozza has been quite rude to fans and other artists over giving pointers as to how he can improve his work and has tried to get rid of any evidence supporting this. i admit, i used to support both cartoon Network and Kyle but after watching this, I'm boycotting the company until further notice. For a company against bullying, they sure like to employ them.
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I worked with him once on Moobeard as one of the clean up artists. He was rude to me afterwards when he found out that Moobeard didn't get picked up. I ended up getting fired thanks to him spreading a lie about me around the Nick studio. Never spoke with him again. To think he's doing this to online artists? Unacceptable.
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What a faggot.
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>>83179846
You're referring to Carrozza?

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Old thread hit bump limit
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>>83179575
Gee who'd have guessed. Spencer/Remender were horrible choices to follow up on Bru.

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Why aren't there more monster/alien waifus /co/?
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>>83179265
>>>/co/sug/
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>>83179282
Dem Polygon bitches be old hat yo.
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Because aliens aren't real.

>Set in 1983

How come Magneto doesn't look like a man who should be in his 50s?

And while I guess Prof looks his supposed age shouldn't Hank McCoy be in his 40s?
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Mutants age slower.
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It's because the movie is shit.
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Also Singer is just trying to get back to the 2000's to fix the Dark Phoenix X3 disaster.

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Finally, he's back, there's nothing that could wrong now
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HAIL
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>>83179021
2U
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>getting worked by nick Spencer

I bet you think wolverine is dead for good too

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I have to say that it is highy telling to me that I see no major discussion of Civil War... anywhere.

I guess these Marvel films have stopped being so relevant, or good, seeing as I have yet to watch this film, and probably won't for a while.
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Cape flicks only really get discussed months later if they're really shitty
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>>83179525
>MoS and BvS aren't great cinema
wew lad
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>>83178924
What's there to discuss. It was a cool movie. It had some flaws here and there. Overall an incredibly enjoyable watch and definitely one of the better MCU films, easily top 5, top 3 depending on your personal preference.

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Lana Lang is back.
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>Lana Lang is back.
Fuck
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Why wasn't she Lois Lane?
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>>83178905
She has comic anatomy

Best part is, they are allegedly real, which makes them that much better
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>>83178905
>In June 2010, Refn (Drive, Only God Forgives, Neon Demon) stated his interest in directing a Wonder Woman movie starring Christina Hendricks.
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what did you guts think of the new change
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I don't like it without the head wings.
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>>83178899
You all should be smart enough to know that this isn't permanent. People who get booty blasted over this are just movie fags.
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>>83178920
I thought this too, but the lack of wings makes him look decidedly more HYDRA.

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