what's /lit/ opinion on noir literature?
>>9587795
As with all genre fiction, there are a handful of gems on top of a pile of shit
>>9587795
I really started to have dirty fantasies involving the two sisters Vivian and Carmen. Philip is a faggot.
>>9587795
It does a good job at uncovering the true nature of women
What books do I need to read to become a better critical reader? To be able to fully comprehend works of Joyce, Virginia Woolf, Pynchon etc
>>9587425
Not OP, but bumping.
>>9587425
I'm redpilled, a white and proud masculine man, who will not accept you putting a postmodernist, a modernist degenerate, and a woman on a pedestal.
Choose proud white men of a conservative bend, or fuck off to plebbit
Read more commentaries, and essays on the books and reread them. As you read their comments see what they pick up on and start to apply the same techniques and
>Tfw non-french speakers will never be able to truly appreciate the greatest novel of the 20th Century
What the fuck is that I never heard about it?
>>9587351
I thought Celine was going to be a redpill alpha male role model for me, but dudes just a degenerate who writes about homosex and getting cucked by sluts all the time.
>>9587368
top...kek...
What's the best critique of empiricism you know that isn't Kantian or some variation of "muh maths and logics"? I wanna believe in meme magic not in fucking toadman's fork
>>9587211
empiricist: the only legitimate claims are those which are known through sensory experience
skeptic: how did you find out what you just said from sensory experience?
>>9587211
Well, you could stop reading things. Watch a lot of MSM and game shows and junk.
>>9587231
>skeptic: how did you find out what you just said from sensory experience?
And the empiricist be like psychological certainty
Don't bother. Empiricism culminates in skepticism, IS skepticism. Kant figured that shit out way back which is why he was such a sperg because obviously (to him) science and rational justifications for ethics existed.
I just don't find him that convincing. Probably too high iq 4 me
Fantastic quality-for-price tier:
>Everyman's Library
Cheap and serviceable tier:
>Modern Library
Beautiful, though sometimes overdone, binding (with outdated translations) tier:
>Folio Society
>Franklin Library
Consistently best translation (except P&V REEEE) tier:
>Oxford World Classics
Sometimes unnecessary POClit, sometimes overlooked classics, but mostly interesting tier:
>NYRB
Memeworthy covers and bad translations tier:
>Wordsworth Classics
Sweatshop-level translations but available at your Local Barnes and Noble™ tier:
>Penguin Classics
your gay
>>9587109
>not liking traps
>anno domini MMXVI + I
whose gay now
>>9587124
Wtf I'm gay now? ? ?
Qui est le Shakespeare français?
Molière, mais pêh il n'existe pas
Ionesco
>>9586916
Il est Racine.
At which point in your life did you realize they were right about everything?
Right now
>>9586419
When I was dumb and edgy.
I always knew they were right
Does it bring anything to the table, that is exclusive to the novel, compared to the movie? Am I just being a pleb for asking?
The movie is shit and so is the book. Waste your time on something better.
t. /lit/ and /tv/
Seriously don't get why it became so damn popular. Makes me suspect some shenanigans went on, like with Rowling.
>>9586345
Didn't read it.
Celestine Prophecy tier
ITT: Shittiest book you read and why you feel that way. Let's get some discussion going and elaborate on why some books are just dog-shit.
Andy Weir's The Martian.
The humour is what irritated me the most. It felt like it was aiming for a more young adult/teenager audience so a lot of the humour felt very immature to me. One of my friends defended it, saying that he didn't find it funny either but that it made sense as the protagonist is attempting to lighten the mood for himself, otherwise he would just be in a spiral of self-wallowing and he isn't that type of character. I sort of agreed but I don't think that excuses lazy attempts at humour (lazy attempts without any sense of irony). When the protagonist isn't in the chapter, the pace also drops to a stunting halt as various people at NASA with no characterisation spout paragraphs upon paragraphs of hand-holding exposition.I only read the book because a friend gave me a copy and he wanted to know what I thought about it.
Anything by Mark Z Danielewski. That motherfucker relies too heavily on formatting and graphology gimmicks to pass off subpar mysteries as post-modernist experimental literature. You remove any sense of gimmickry from his writing and you're left with a pulpy book with some twists and turns. He's like Stephen King, he just likes to waste paper.
>>9577854
Bloodmeme by corncob tortillas yecarthy
It's all about spitting, killing injuns, eating tortillas and saying ye.
What do i have to read to get smarter?
I'm so fucking dumb I can't take it anymore.
Please, help me, /lit/.
>>9592195
You don't have to read. Just take the redpill
Start with the math textbooks
Discussion question: Did Agamemnon deserve it?
>>9592007
whats a reasonable time to finish the iliad? im a fucking slow reader and i want to read faster. jsut finished book 10.
The Greek meme is dead
This is now a Peterson thread.
Is he /lit/?
absolutely not
almost as shit as donald glover
>>9591967
and you don't even know how truly wrong you are...
Can we all at least agree that faulkner has been eternally BTFO?
>>9591885
>I actively seek out shit to get outraged about, screenshot, and post to 4chan to get people to pat me on my back
>>9591898
>find copy of AILD on my way home
>Recognize the name Faulkner, but never read any of his work.
>Go online and look up the book as prelim research for my reading
>find some inane comment, have a chuckle, and decide to share it for keks
You were way off.
>>9591930
>not knowing Faulkner
>screenshotting and uploading a picture of a review for attention
>saying "eternally BTFO" and "keks"
i literally am gagging
listen to this shit, the sample here:
https://www.audible.com/pd/Religion-Spirituality/Milk-and-Honey-Audiobook/B01K7YRP10?qid=1496514823&sr=1-14
wow i have
never heard
of this
before
what a
great thread
>>9591346
Why do you people insist on posting shit you hate every day?
It's like the /pol/-retards and frogfaggots who go out of their way to search through social media to find something to screenshot and post on 4chan.
Create threads about literature you actually enjoy and which moves you, instead of 'this triggers me, please agree with me!'-circlejerkery faggotry.
>>9591351
I'm new here, sorry
I was just viscerally shocked listening to it, how did it become a bestseller?
Isn't this guy's work implicitly atheist? I haven't read him but I always got the impression that he just thought religion was cute but didn't actually believe in it. Why does Peterson cling to him?
>>9591258
He was a pseudo-Pagan, all of the New Age spritualism began with his horseshit
>>9591270
Because myths are created from the ancient human sub conscious and can be linked to our own desires and concerns. How do you not get this? The only retarded thing is the synchronicity chart.
>>9591304
>the ancient human sub conscious
No such thing