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Hey /lit/, need help with finding the title of a book I read 15 years ago. Been trying to find it for myself but it has just been impossible. I'm starting to think I might have dreamed it up, but I distinctly remember reading it to this very day.
>Post-apocalyptic Britain
>society somewhere between 1984 and something medieval
>animal people exist for some reason
>book is about a brother and sister who get separated
>sister goes on to become a revolutionary leader
>brother is taken in by a pig lady who later gets lynched
>brothers face gets horribly mutilated to the point where people can't tell he's human anymore
>at some point the norse gods make a grand return
>The brother and sister meet again years later and fugg
>they don't learn that they are each other's long lost siblings
Does this sound familiar to anyone???
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don't know many girls who are so desperate they'd fuck the mutilated guy
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>>9614050
I don't know but I would read more descriptions of books like this
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You're talking about Bloodtide by Melvin Burgess. It was planned as a trilogy or series but he never got past the first one. It's a weird mix of SF, dystopia and Norse mythology.
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Are 'complete idiots guides' good for learning?
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I want to expand my wealth of knoweldge and I see that this series of books can cover just about anything (pic related).
I see theres ones on psychology, cooking, hunting, science etc. Im wondering if these are worth reading and if anyone can tell me if they've read anything from the series and gained knoweldge.
If not, can anyone recommend something else?
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I would assume it's only a basic outline of whatever you're studying but whatever go for it, is probably better than the Doritos+shitposting+hot pockets routine you're used to.
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>>9614049
That may look silly but correct breathing is actually important. In fact many people do it incorrectly, either by mouth breaking, or breathing from their chest and not their stomach.
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>>9614049
They are usually great foundation builders but you'll need to move onto more in depth and verbose books on whatever you want to learn.
Robert Service sucks
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>>9613709
Is no one else going to defend one of the 20th c.'s most lovable LARPers?
Really, anon. The guy was modest and therefore if pretentious then in a way in which the poison is sucked out of that pejorative term. He was a banker (like Eliot!) and in his ACTUAL LIFE far more daring, caring (of people!), and successful than ol' possum.
Also, I rather like the chosen tag.
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>>9615492
Aww!
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>>9613709
For me, it's more the ill-fitting shoe.
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>INTERVIEWER
>I’ve heard that you occasionally listen to rock music.
>BLOOM
>Oh sure. My favorite viewing, and this is the first time I have ever admitted it to anyone, but what I love to do, when I don’t watch evangelicals, when I can’t read or write and can’t go out walking, and don’t want to just tear my hair and destroy myself, I put on, here in New Haven, cable channel thirteen and I watch rock television endlessly. As a sheer revelation of the American religion it’s overwhelming. Yes, I like to watch the dancing girls too. The sex part of it is fine. Occasionally it’s musically interesting, but you know, ninety-nine out of a hundred groups are just bilge. And there hasn’t been any good American rock since, alas, The Band disbanded. I watch MTV endlessly, my dear, because what is going on there, not just in the lyrics but in its whole ambience, is the real vision of what the country needs and desires. It’s the image of reality that it sees, and it’s quite weird and wonderful. It confirms exactly these two points: first, that no matter how many are on the screen at once, not one of them feels free except in total self-exaltation. And second, it comes through again and again in the lyrics and the way one dances, the way one moves, that what is best and purest in one is just no part of the creation—that myth of an essential purity before and beyond experience never goes away. It’s quite fascinating. And notice how pervasive it is! I spent a month in Rome lecturing and I was so exhausted at the end of each day that my son David and I cheerfully watched the Italian mtv. I stared and I just couldn’t believe it. Italian MTV is a sheer parody of its American counterpart, with some amazing consequences—the American religion has made its way even into Rome! It is nothing but a religious phenomenon. Very weird to see it take place.
>ywn watch music videos with Harold Bloom and do a commentary like Beavis and Butt-head
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He is the living definition of pseud
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saying my dear is one of the most affected moves
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>>9613681
I think Bloom is misguided in thinking MTV is some kind of transcendental Whitmanian expression of freedom. I can see why he would think that way, but it's really just vapid pleasure worship desu - not even that, I don't think most of them know what they want anymore. But Bloom would probably call me an Eliotfag.
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Anyone has read History of Sexuality? I have a doubt in part 2.
>(on the ethics of loving young boys) [...] It barely matters how such critics and satires might be justified. There is at least one thing that is indicated by their existence: the dilemma, in this society that admitted relations between men, raised by the juxtaposition of an ethics of virile superiority and the conception of any sexual relation by the viewpoint of penetration and masculine domination; the consequence is, in a way, that the role "action" and domination is affected by constantly positive factors, but on the other way, that it becomes necessary to attribute one of the partners to a passive, dominated and inferior position.
>And although there is no problem when a woman or a slave is involved, there is one when a man is involved. There is no doubt that this dilemma simultaneously explains the silence in which the man-man relation was involved, and the conspicuous disqualification of those who break the silence by showing their acceptance, in other words, their preference by an "inferior" role. It is equally because of such dillema that all discussions were directed to man-boy relations, since in this relation, one of the partners, due to their young age and lack of virile status, might, for a while, be considered suitable objects of pleasure.
At this point, no evidence of an active resistance to the inferiority of the passive partner is shown. Some boys are more "promiscuous", but they are shown as exceptions.
Is Foucault making a surreptitious political statement or has he forgotten to present evidence for this claim?
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You literally don't need evidence to say this.
You prove the dominance involved in relationships, you tie dominance to masculinity and his comments on this come automatically.
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I don't think he is describing the truth of these relations as such but rather commenting on what to him seems like a truly held general belief in the west. You aren't denying that the passive or receptive (a better word choice imo) role in sex is seen as being submissive/least-powerful ? That idea is a commonplace.
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>>9613624
That's not what I'm asking.
>the conspicuous disqualification of those who break the silence by showing their preference by an inferior role.
The perceived inferiority of passive sexual roles is obvious, but he never shows evidence that such position is contested in Ancient Greek society. Alcibiades and Thymarchus are shown as exceptions, but not as a "political opposition" to this viewpoint.
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>People forget how fun this book was before zombies became a meme
Imagining America and the scenarios you could get yourself into was really entertaining.
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It's entertaining, yeah, but you can read a great book that is also entertaining. Why would you spend time reading a shitty book instead of a good one?
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/k/ here, fuck this book
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>>9613482
Lol /k/ don't ever change
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here's the deal /lit/
i did my undergrad in philosophy and ended up buying a lot of philosophy books that i didn't fully read or never bothered reading. i'm going back to school to do a professional masters degree in an unrelated field.
what do i do with these books? read them? sell them? philosophy is kind of useless in itself and i can't help but think reading all these books is a waste of time, but part of me does want to read them. is there any chance that reading these books will help me in the field i'm going into (social work)?
also feel free to talk about how philosophy is pretty useless.
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>i did my undergrad in philosophy
>what do i do with books? read them?
universities were a mistake
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>>9613463
>i didn't get anything out of school
>i want to go back to school because reasons this time
???
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>>9613502
i got a lot out of it, especially with respect to writing and developing/interpreting arguments, it's just that the subject matter itself is not super practical knowledge.
i bought a lot of philosophy books outside of required material because i was convinced i was a super deep philosophy guy, but really i wasn't all that interested in it
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>Jesuit boarding school
>no one gets molested
Who was Joycey boy trying to fool?
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>>9613357
Read it again, dumbass
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I went to an Irish Christian brothers school, great institution desu. The old brother left wasn't allowed to teach anything except advanced maths because he kept punching boys
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>>9613357
I'm sorry if his novel didn't satisfy your fetish of being buttfucked by catholics, OP.
Is this guy a good writer?
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>>9613112
Infinite Jest is overrated but It's good. Too bad he killed himself.
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tfw you dip your toe in the water
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w a t e r w a v e
woah so this is water
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>write a long as fuck book
>bore people to tears by page 50 of my """magnum opus"
>they stop reading before page 100
>they dont have the right to criticise it because they didnt finish it
>theyre plebs
People on this board seriously think this.
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I don't
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>>9613025
Another terrible frogpost
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>>9613025
OP is right. So many faggots on here think they are writers just because they can write pretentious pseudo intellectual bullshit. Newsflash kiddos, the only thing that makes a writer "good" is the fact that people enjoy reading them. Every "good" author in the world was popular because their books were enjoyed by readers. If people don't like your faux elitist crap then maybe write an actual good book. End of discussion.
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Is there a site where i can read Shakespeare written in a simpler english? English isn't my first language but i still want to at least try.
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may as well wank with your penis cut off
maybe try working hard for once
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>>9612977
Consider reading a translation. What is your first language?
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>>9612987
consider cutting your penis off
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can any of you draw mario incandenza? is he like hideously ugly and deformed?
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>>9612816
not my drawing and im not sure it captures my mental picture but this is a drawing of yourguy
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>>9612816
Was Mario supposed to be an insulting parody of Alyosha?
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Mario is probably the best character of Infinite Jest. Even Mario, as disabled and weird as he is, is also affected by this tragic satirical society filled with bad movies and drug addiction.
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I have an incredibly narrow attention span that prevents me from reading at a reasonable speed, what can I do to overcome this?
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no porn
no screens (computer, TV)
no internet
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>>9612798
Write each word while you're reading on a separate sheet of paper.
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>>9612801
I already quit porn months ago, should I quit the other two entirely?
So, anon, why haven't you read D'Annunzio yet? What's your excuse?
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But anon, I only have one more D'Annunzio left to read.
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>>9612703
Ma anon io non parlo italiano yet,
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>>9612703
I don't need power fantasies and flowery vacuity from a provincial abbruzzese, a few decades behind his contemporaries too.
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Question About Reading Technique
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I started the habit of reading about 2 months ago, and things are going fairly well, except that after timing myself and comparing my wpm to the average (240) I find myself to reading much slower (120 wpm) on books that shouldn't be hard to read. I have a tendency to slow down and try and consume each sentence before moving on, but it occurs to me that this isn't naturally done when you consume other media, like movies; you just take in what you can and move on, perhaps marking it down to look at later.
An example of a sentence that stops me is: "Sometimes the anonymous poems were properly anonymous, sometimes they were my own anonymous efforts and sometimes those of my father, who had - by a long stretch - a greater talent for vulgarity than he had for metaphor." Or, if it isn't something that pertains to grammatical structure, I might try to retain whatever environmental details I can (plumes of smoke), and reread until I feel it's adequate enough.
I can't help but feel like this is a very limiting way to read. I feel like I will improve if I mark the passages and simply move on, later see how the author wrote it and understand why it works, memorize vocab, and thus improve as a reader, but I want to know if /lit/ has ever had issues with obsessive/compulsive reading/backtracking
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When I use to read philosophy I got caught up in what was being said so much I couldn't decouple myself enough to go past three pages.
It certainly feels like I'm learning more but I wonder if I can get just as much out of it without the intensity limiting my ability to progress. I don't know if that's nihilism tho
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There's literally nothing wrong with rereading sentences and passages. Why would movies be your ideal for consuming art? Why wouldn't you treat movies as books instead - if you didn't fully understand a scene rewind it and watch again? Which god or law says that you shouldn't do it like that? None, just do as you feel is appropriate.
If you're dealing with philosophy, in fact, you'll probably miss a shitton of info if you don't reread.
Pro tip: don't overthink, reading books (and consuming art of any sort in general) is so simple that it might surprise you when you find the ideal method.
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>>9612690
This is similar to what I have felt also, actually, in reading philosophical texts. I know there's this idea in Adler's How to Read a Book that goes along the lines on just having an initial imperfect read and going from there, but it's tough for me to see it apply to literature when there is a plot and skipping around isn't much of an option. The advantage of the first imperfect read is that you get a better idea of whatever the author is telling you, I think, whereas rereading 3 pages that don't quite make sense limit your ability to penetrate them
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I think you're right, it's just tough because I wonder if I do this compulsively. Part of the issue is that I think I reread so much that I lose perspective of the overall flow of the plot. You are correct in that there is no objective that tells you books should be consumed like movies, it's more of me wondering if my technique is off.
Thank you so much for the protip, it actually broadens my perspective by a lot. I may be more advantaged to read lines as they come and not obsess about memorizing the whole text. Thank you for your words of encouragement, anon!