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100 pages in and I am enjoying it. Am I going to be rewarded or disappointed if I keep reading?
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Haven't read him, but he gets Pynchon's approval.
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>>9692052
Must be thinking of the other Steve Erickson. And what do you get out of spamming pics of your youtube whores/victims?
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>>9692064
Oh, my bad.

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Found a trove of short stories I used to write when I was in sixth grade (I'm in college now).

Keep it bumped and I'll transcribe them. Some of it is a bit funny and many of my descriptions made no sense.
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I'm game.
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>>9692027

Grammatical errors and all:

"We found the dead dude in Bird Park, on the eighteenth of October. The sky was a flawless ocean blue. It seemed as if the sky was just a reflection of the ocean on that day.
This was all twenty years ago, and at the time we were children, me and Tom. We'd been friends for a long time and I guess it all ended that day, because of a stupid argument over a a rotting and grotesque lump of flesh. I'd met him in second grade and if I remember correctly we were in fifth grade at the moment.
He was totally unlike me. He was lean and tall with brown and silky hair that came down over his forehead, almost touching the tip of his nose like trickles of water that abruptly ended in random places. I was kind of small for my age and watched too many horror shows like The Twilight Zone and Tales from the Darkside. They were the kind of shows that would be on every weekday and the kind of shows my parents hated, always protesting when I was slumped on the couch, no life at all, hypnotized by the show. "You are now entering the Twilight Zone..."
"Jim? You watchin' that damn show again? Oh you better not be... How many times have I told you not to..."
When I wasn't locked up at home like a mentally retarted person in a Asylum I was having the time of my life. Me and Tom would walk around the whole town visiting places like Billy's Pool and Bird Park.
Bird Park. It was a long stretch of nothing but greenland, surrounded by scrubby trees as old as the building down in Death Alley, which is what we called a block of boredom down near Tunsel's Workshop where all the motorcycle gangs would team up and tell each other that they were going to kill each other, but in the end, never did as much as make someone bleed a little. They called it Bird Park, well at least we did, because of an obvious reason. Every morning there'd be a flock of birds, maybe nine, pecking at the ground with long, slender necks. By the evening there would be hundreds.
As long as I can remember, nobody, and I mean nobody, disturbed the birds. Not even the Chip brothers who, at least claimed, to have killed six dogs and nine stray cats, didn't go up to the park in the morning. I guess everyone loved the feathery flying things, by the way they acted.

There'd been no school for the day because it was the birthday of some guy who everyone remembered as smart, but wasn't really, in my opinion, that bright. Nobody's really bright in the world I don't think, only those workaholic scientists that go around mixing chemicals and saying they've got a new medicine for curing cancer, when what they've really got is a test tube full of fizz, that wouldn't even sell for ten bucks on eBay.
My mom told me to go out and get some fresh air, so I called Tom on my cell. He answered on the second ring, with his weary voice that sounded he'd been working day and night for six days in one of those old mine shafts where dust kills you if you're not looking
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Transcribe your tits into pixels and send those to me through the cables you dumb whore.

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book club time!
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>>9691978

>The Crying of Lot 49 (Kurt Vonnegut?)
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>>9691993
>Fyodor Dosteyers
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>>9691978
>no 1984
-.-

ITT: we put forward the best writers of our country and suggest why others should read them.
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Not really the best but I can say my favourites

Australia

>John Kinsella
Known for his 'anti-pastoral' poems about rural life in the wheat belt in Western Australia. Lots of natural imagery and symbolism, very subversive and occasionally political. Harold Bloom ate his ass in the introduction to his selected poems if that means much to any of you.

>Patrick White
If you like modernism then White is near the peak in Australia. His novel 'Voss' is a good place to start, an epic retelling of the first white man's journey into the centre of the continent. Lots of stuff about predestination, destiny, God, culture, morality, leadership, cowardice etc.

>Dorothy Porter
Influential poet in the 90s/early 2000s. Known for her verse novels, notably 'The Monkeys Mask' (amongst other things a very good satire of certain slices of Sydney life in the 90s) and 'wild surmise' a sort of extended love poem with lots of ecology/landscape/space imagery.
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>>9691952
OP, you best be a subject of the glorious Austro-Hungarian empire and a native German speaker.
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since "the best" is subjective I'll post my favorite

>why other should read them
If you read german go read everything he ever wrote, Heine is witty and poetic and his satire is brilliant
If you don't I'd say don't bother with it (is he even translated?) except you have a good knowledge of german history/cities since most of his references would prob. fly over your head

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Have you ever wondered what it is like to kill a someone?
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I used to wonder, but no longer.
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>>9691887
What was it like when you killed them?
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>>9691819
I have wondered whether I'd deal with it or be driven insane with guilt.

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>mfw /lit/ is STILL salty that Harry Potter is one of the most succesfull franchises of all time
Grow up
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>>9691793

Just because of the movies. If it weren't for the movies the series would be forgotten and buried.
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>>9691796
but the movies became successful based on the popularity of the books
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>>9691796
How does it feel to be so underage?

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Anyone else prefer literary criticism to literature?
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>>9691697
Given that this board is made up of nebbish narcissistics: yes.
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>>9691697
I had this problem. I would just NOT read a book before studying thoroughly the poetics of the author. Which I realized is ridiculous so now I just read straight up
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I always use literary criticism I've read at parties to impress women, and only connect it to literature if I can. Parroting concepts is much more impressive to the rabble than namedropping authors.

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Have you ever received a book from the library that turned out to have immense value?

I've recently gotten a reference title that apparently is excessively rare, and is seemingly only found for no less than $1,500.

I wonder if these institutions even know half the time.
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You can't sell them if taken from a library though, can you?
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>>9691636

I would never dream of doing anything like that.

It's a violation of the public trust.
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A library in my city has Codex Seraphinianus, but they don't let you borrow it. Had to read it in the building. They also have Une Semaine de Bonte but they don't let people read it at all. You probably need connections or have to be a student or an academic to access it.
Fuck them, it's not even the original pressing, it's just a reprint from '78.

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Im curious about German politics and how the political system it has today developed. Any book recommendations?
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the Arms of Krupp is the only one I can speak of.

It follows the growth of the Krupp steelworks, and its integral importance in Germany's echelons of power abroad and within the nation.
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>>9691583

richard j evans trilogy on the weimar republic and the third reich are great on 20th century
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>>9691712
This is probably not the best way to have a discussion but I saved a post from /his/ that makes an offhand comment on Evans Third Reich trilogy.

Here's the relevant part:
>"If a work with zero new scholarship is fine - like Evans trio - then Burleigh's " 'New' history " is much better choice. The tone of Evans books is just fugly, he loses no page trying to tell the reader that 'you should feel bad, Nazis were the epithome of evil and you are to blame'."
Do you think he's right about that?

Personally I don't have a problem with an author telling me the Nazis were evil, but since I'm already ware I don't need him to drone on about it for a thousand pages, especially if what he describes the regime doing would enable me to come to my own conclusions.

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You have 10 seconds to write something completely new and original before I
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I go to /v/ to talk about games!
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Sometimes my willy feels nice
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jinui h876 gfvty 54654r ytf 988 uygyugy dddddddddddddddddddddddddd

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Is this hack also followed in English speaking countries?
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>>9691502
Yes.

Assuming you're Argentinian or something, pls Bogpill me on him before I read The Alchemist or something.
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>>9691525
It's new age positivism.

"Follow your dreams and they will come true" and sentences like that.
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In my country, this man is nothing!

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What's so wrong with cowardice?
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The inability to an hero
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>>9691482
Absolutely nothing.
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Huge, milky boobies.

What are some transcendend/universal literary archetypes?

I mean figures like
Hercules
>confronts chaos/the unknown and is victorious
>chosen hero that has to fullfill a set of tasks
>examples; St. George comes to mind, or any dragon slayer figure, literally every 'chosen one' (even Harry Potter, who in the first part has to go through a set of challenges and there is even a Fluffy - Cerberus parallel)

Prometheus
>rebellious against god(s)/authority
>doesn't bow for noone even if it's his downfall
>bringer of light motive
>examples: Ahab from Moby Dick is certainly a promethian figure, as well as Kapaneus in Interno, who literally stands in the fiery rains of hell and curses god

any others come to mind?
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OP
>a fag
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maybe Oedipus as an archetype for someone who seeks knowledge/the truth even it is his downfall, Dr. Faust would come to mind as an example

mabye Hamlet? although I can't really think of an example right now
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>>9691243
>make an incredibly vague slot you can fit mythological characters into
>call it an archetype
Whoop-de-doop!

Which are the best books with suicidal characters?

Like The Bell Jar or Suicide by Levé.
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>>9691035

> inb4 my diary desu
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>>9691035
Hedda Gabbler is one of my personal favorites, though it's a play

Anna Karenina and Madame Bovary are classics too
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IJ

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>I venture, after a lifetime's meditation upon Gnosticism, the judgement that it is pragmatically the religion of literature; Harold Bloom

What does /lit/ think of this?

Also side question, to all the Gnostics in the group: what do you think about Gnosticism being pejoratively associated with Narcissism and New Age spirituality?
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epistemology mother fucker, you read it?
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I am currently working through Robinson's Nag Hammadi Library with Layton's text as well - I suppose I could offer something.

Gnosticism has been very good at allowing a great deal of shit to be recast as "gnostic". If this is due to the syncretic nature in which it is presented or by simple virtue of it's more esoteric ideas, I don't know. Whatever the case may be, there is a very large gulf between what Gnosticism was and what many want it to be - in regards to the "New Age Spirituality" that you mention Gnosticism is a great tool to obfuscate their ideas enough to the point of not needing to defend them. Veiled nonsense that categorically cannot be understood unless you choose to accept it. Some might even argue that that is all Gnosticism ever was.

I'm on mobile now, but I can respond later with a little more detail if anyone wants to keep this going.
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>>9691758
I definitely want to read more.

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