What are some books about strength and courage?
I want to read about people who stood up to the dominant ideas of their society and then rebuilt it as they saw fit
The Dispossessed, Ursula K. Le Guin
>>9692011
Forgot to mention in the OP: no cuck shit. Anything that expresses pity for the inferior and resentment for the superior can't be posted in this thread
>>9692011
great book desu
I know there's a number of different kinds of horror like body horror, psychological horror, I don't know if this is really a kind of it, but "cryptid horror", but I'm sure there's other types, and I'm not completely sure how to pull off some of the different styles that I'm familiar with. Any advice?
Start by imitating what you like. If you work at it, and have talent, you will discover what you can make work, what you can make live, and what you can't.
Frankly, I like some of the Lovecraft pastiches I've read better than the original.
Beyond that, Stephen King's book On Writing will give you the basics - although most people on this board hate the guy - and Anne Lamott's book, Bird by Bird, is also good.
It all depends on the presence, or absence, of talent. Which you will not know whether you have, or the scope of, until you conscientiously try to exercise it.
Flannery O'Connor's short story "The Comforts of Home" is about a young, aspiring writer. You might find that inspiring.
>>9701581
OP here. I've done a story in Lovecraft's style, and did one in a Stephen Kingish sort of style from what I gathered by reading a lot of his books. What other kinds of horror are there besides the ones I mentioned though?
You realize this is kind of a retarded question? Although I suppose I'm retarded to be answering your troll.
King's Danse Macabre is lit crit on various types of horror.
Lovecraft wrote a nonfiction essay on the subject, too.
Go to r/horror or r/horrorlit and scroll through. Google "types of horror." There are as many kinds and possibilities of horror story as you can imagine (although you seem to be having a difficult time on that front).
Today even the real intellectuals are conceited and arrogant.
>>9701495
they always were.
>>9701495
Intellectualism is dead. Literature is dead. Art is dead. Philosophy is dead. Morality is dead. Heroism is dead. Religion is dead. People are dead. Dead is dead. De dis ded. De da de. Da da da. Dadada. Daaaa. AAAAA. AAVVVVVVVVVVVV
>>9701511
this but unironically
Reading poetry is very difficult for me.
I often think the words are beautiful, the meaning and implications are exciting, but the musicality of poetry is befuddling. I don't get metre, and poets themselves seem to, when they read their work aloud, disregard their punctuation and their stanza format and just read how it sound good. I have no idea how to read poetry and the "rules" don't seem to matter even to the poets who compose around those rules.
How do you learn, and get sensitive to metre? Does anyone seem to find this kind of struggle familiar?
For example, reading a poem out loud is always upsetting because I am never sure if this is the way the poem was meant to sound. Does it matter more, should I just find a way I find beautiful to recite the poem than worry if it adheres to metre (you can only stray so far I imagine, if the poem is written well) or follow the mechanics of enjambents and linebreaks?
>>9701321
Don't worry about it, in the modern education system full of philistine masses, meter is overemphasized. Yes, the poet composed according to meter. Yes, analyzing meter can reveal something about the poem. But no poet wanted YOU to READ their WORKS like THIS. Just read it naturally.
>>9701346
Okay. This is sort of what I suspected to a degree. I still feel like I could learn something about metre to help me, but I don't need to be so frustrated.
anyone recommend a not too difficult book for someone with mild brain damage? The doctors told me reading might quicken improvement of some of my symptoms. Something with meaning behind it would be good, like a novel that's not just telling a story for the sake of telling a story (ala Game of Thrones). Simple prose, not too many words I won't understand.
Right now I'm not even able to recite asentence someone's just said to me so it's probably going to be frustrating as fuck regardless.
>>9701227
The book of the new sun, if that don't cure your retarded ass nothing will do.
>>9701227
unironically? read genre fiction, fuck the bullshit pleb shit and read what you can to get back in the swing of things. don't turn your nose up at shit, you can't afford to.
read douglas adams or asimov or vonnegut, depending on what you can tolerate.
>>9701227
Hegel's Phrenology of Spirit
i'm new to reading kinda
I loved Lolita, it's my only real reference point for literature
I'm trying to get into Joyce but Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist are dogshit by comparison.
Am I just retarded? What am I missing? How much better is Ulysses?
>>9701193
>portrait of an artist is dogshit
okay, look. you're wrong. objectively fucking wrong. it's not what you want to read. just read more nabokov. why force yourself to read shit you don't like? Joyce is the greatest living author, and before you stop me, he is immortal. His works transcend mortality and the dichotomy of art and soul.
Nabokov? Just read Pale Fire, and Ada.
>>9701193
These threads are always stupid because OP never offers any real points other than "I don't get it," and so there's really nothing to say in response other than to call you a pleb.
There's a wealth of resources available for you for exploring and understanding literature and shitposting on /lit/ is not one of them.
>>9701221
fuck OP
isn't joyce great?
>Deal with him, Hemingway!
All the good ideas come when I'm outside or about to sleep. And as soon as I get to my computer or a notebook to try to type something I become numb and my brain turns off.
>>9701064
I can't play the piano. all the good ideas come to me when I am away from a piano and whenever I actually play a piano its as if I have no discernible talent and should not be playing the piano because at best I have a velleity of being a pianist.
>>9701064
You have to force yourself to just start typing. It doesn't matter what comes out. You will be surprised what you can accomplish if you just start typing as opposed to looking at a blank page.
That's because all great ideas come from the subconscious
Ok /lit/, who's the best author from the past century?
Nabby
Joyce.
your mom fag
What is it that makes for good prose? There are a few writers whose prose really sticks out to me as particularly worthy of notice
>Thomas Browne
>Lord Macaulay
>Abraham Lincoln
>Cardinal Newman
>James Cabell
>HL Mencken
Has anyone here personally identified the elements of good prose? Or know any good books on prose style in general?
I actually have no idea how you got any of that out of what I said because none of what you said has anything to do with my post
>>9700938
You literally said it word for word you dumb fuck cunt, go fuck yourself. Reported
>>9700933
>Has anyone here personally identified the elements of good prose
A certain flow and even the ability (though not necessarily the abuse of) to make longer-than-normal sentences. Bad prose is typically choppy, the authors prefer particularly short or normal-length sentence. The words are themselves assonant. Alliteration, consonance, and assonance all go a long way to making prose sound pretty. There's parallel structure and use of a lot of rhetorical devices like metaphors and similes.
I am outsourcing my western canon gatekeeping.
Suggest unto me literature with the greatest prose of any era.
/lit/, this is your chance to do something legitimately useful, you eternal sacks of dogshit.
Yes, I've scoured the lists.
Geniuses only. GENIUSES ONLY.
I'm dying soon, and if you do a good job, i'll credit you posthumously.
REAL NIGGAS ONLY
Any anthology of the western canon is limited to about 3000 pages per volume, you've got to make so many concessions it renders it completely fucking useless.
>>9700936
utter trash, copping out, you little shit?
>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
now that the dust has settled can we agree that he's a genius who proves autistic micromanaging is equal to good writing?
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>>9700482
He barely focused on any of that stuff though. When did he write details about tax policies in his books? Not that medieval ones were that complex but when did he do such a thing?
Plus, he still can't write for shit. He really needs a person to closely edit his books. Many of the descriptions he makes about characters and scenes and situations are pretty immature.
>>9700482
>autistic micromanaging
how would describe the task of creating multiple languages and alphabets as well as reams of mythical and historical texts which are still being edited through today?
I'm not a defender of Tolkien's prose nor a fan of fantasy in general, but no one has ever worked so hard to create the trappings of a real fantasy world than our guy
Will someone please explain to me the appeal of this man? I've read four of his books so far, and they weren't great philosophical treatises. They were just good entertainment.
I can see how he's an enjoyable writer, but taking a closer look it's hard to see him as a first rate thinker. Most of his stuff seems to be either obvious or wrong, or inevitable given the period in which he functioned as a man of letters. Here's an example:
>slave morality
Is there really any reason to believe that slave morality has its origins where he says it does? It seems to me that, throughout most of history, the average peasant or slave wasn't any more likely to promote pity as a general virtue than a ruler. In fact, compassion seems to be more common in aristocrats than in the commoners.
Another instance:
>predator/prey
He claims that slave morality is cruel because it denies the predator his prey. Isn't this an incredibly childish view of society? As if there "superior men" whose instincts demand violence and prey as a lion does.
And one more thing
>his "great men" like caesar
Is there really any reason to give these men as much praise as he does? I get the feeling, reading history, that any number of modern generals could have outdone a caesar. Nietzsche seems to have a largely romantic view of these persons.
Seems like nonsense desu
>>9700479
We are talking about compassion as Schopenhauer defined it, not about the traditional understanding of the word.
He admired great people not because of their success but because of their will to power.
He didn't care about society. He cared only about the individual. Predator vs. prey is individual vs. society. Society wants to rob the individual of his will to power. The will to power is not necessarily a desire for violence.
Yes, it's childish, but smart people are not necessarily mature and he is self-aware and makes valid points.
>>9700479
>Will someone please explain to me the appeal of this man?
He writes as a free spirit and he appeals to those who share that with him. Textbook thinkers have a field day with him, but they also aren't of the free spirited type.
>>9700479
Proto-postmodernist relativist 'cant know nuffin' perspectival cuck, who was against anti-semitism and nationalism and all identity thinking
I'm interested in reading Kant. What are the required readings to understand him? I've read all of Plato's works, Aristotle's essentials (Organon, Physics, De Anima, Metaphysics, Ethics), and Descartes (For Direction, On the Understanding, and Meditations). I've heard Hume is necessary for the context, but I've also read that Schopenhauer exclusively read Plato and Kant and was able to grasp Kant no problem.
Do you think I am ready?
>>9700343
>and was able to grasp Kant no problem
Debatable
You've read Second Alcibiades little faggot? You've read Rival Lovers you piece of shit?
>>9700351
Prove these are by Plato, faggot
Is reading Harry Potter in another language literary? There's translations of HP in ancient Greek, Latin, and other languages. Of course, reading it in English wouldn't be, but it's not the same in another language.
>>9700332
Can someone post this site which shows certain passages of the japanese translation? You know the one
sounds like a fun way to get stronger in another language for sure op good idea
My german teacher recommended it. She said the grammar and the vocabulary is simple enough.
A nice place to establish a "beachhead" into a language.
>tfw I read the Book of Disquiet
>tfw my life seems much worse than Pessoa's, and he seems like a whiny bitch
>tfw I go on goodreads and see normies talking about how Pessoa had the worst life possible/how one can always be grateful that their life is better than Pessoa's
whom art thou emeraldwording
>>9700277
Nice afro
>>9700287
Typical Portuguese hairstyle tbqh